It's Always Sunny Mafia! (OVER-The Gang Saves Paddy's Pub!)

[Seraphim]

DTMaster: result?

Also, why are you voting HackerHuck, seth? Please forgive my ignorance, I only read the last few pages or so.

[Seraphim]

good point, i forgot that exilon was replaced

unvote

vote: Seraphim

...lolwut

Okay, color me officially confused. WTF?

[Seraphim]

WHY AM I BEING VOTED WTF

[Seraphim]

Vote: Raivann

I read back and DTMaster is one-hundred percent correct. Superior, superior wagon.

[Seraphim]

Thanks for explaining why you were voting for me in the first place.

[Seraphim]

do you need an explanation?

uhhh, yeah?

[Seraphim]

Oh wait hahahahahahahaha.. makes sense. Except the lack of kill.

Unvote

result plz.

...mind sharing this with the rest of us? Maybe I should read the rest of the game, this game is making minimal sense so far.

[Seraphim]

alright, seriously? I've been run up to L-2 on practically nothing. I can't defend myself because it's my predecessor. I'll read the damn thread, I guess, but this wagon is fucking mindless. Only Hacker has bothered to produce any sort of reasoning.

I want to hear Raivann's result, regardless of what HackerHuck might say.

I also suspect there was a doctor hit last night...if we have a doctor, should be pretty easy to know who to protect.

[Seraphim]

I'm going to be honest: you running random people up for no good reason is a lot more likely to out the doc than us making full use of our power roles. This is a NO-VANILLA GAME. We probably have POWER ROLES UP THE WAZOO. I am going to assume that this is a 9-4-1 or a 10-3-1 game. I don't care about outing the doc, I care about catching the scum, which will make outing the doc obsolete.

[Seraphim]

Coming into this game and getting bandwagoned up to L-2 feels very random and very forced to me.

[Seraphim]

...Exilion. I replaced Exilion.

Now I'm L-1.

I guess I should claim, huh?

[Seraphim]

Also,

Unvote

[Seraphim]

Nah, don't need a fakeclaim, my real role PM should work.

[Seraphim]

You are lucky for this post review function, this post used to contain my claim.

[Seraphim]

Fate, stop being a dumbass.

[Seraphim]

Hacker was unvoting. Read the freakin game.

[Seraphim]

Well, I'm a JOAT, folks. I used my one-shot doc protect last night to protect DTMaster. I also had a one-shot tracker that Exilion used on N1, I won't reveal those results unless people want me to. Exilion didn't use any abilities N2. I still have useful abilities left that I also don't want to reveal unless people want me to.

I found this:

More scum points. If there was a doc protect last night, then you could end up outing the doc.

highly ironic.

[Seraphim]

Alright. I swear to God, I'm done replacing in games, though. In every single game I have replaced into recently, I get wagoned and attacked almost immediately for what my predecessor did. And you know what? In every single one of those goddamned games, I've been town. So fuck that.

I have a vig shot and a bus driver shot left. My tracker result shows HackerHuck paying a visit to seth on N1. Fucking happy?

[Seraphim]

I want Raivann's result before Hacker should even think of claiming.

[Seraphim]

just throwing this out there: would massclaiming be a good idea? Or should we save that until a more probable LYLO situation? In an action heavy game like this, scum are going to have a lot less room to mess around if we massclaim and start directing actions.

[Seraphim]

isn't the game 14 player?

[Seraphim]

S_B = Snow White, right?

[Seraphim]

Scum wouldn't RB the same person they try to kill.

Unless they foresaw the doctor protect on the CONFIRMED CLAIMED INSANE COP which is just about as good as a sane cop at this point.

[Seraphim]

Also, do you dispute that you targeted seth on N1?

[Seraphim]

I postulate that your idea is wrong. If the scum thought there was a chance that there was a doctor or some sort of protective role, you wouldn't want that cop blabbing, would you? So you roleblock him. It makes perfect sense.

MOD: PROD RAIVANN I DON'T CARE IF HE'S ELIGIBLE OR NOT

[Seraphim]

Okay, first of all, Fate clearly doesn't get it. You roleblock and kill the cop just in case the kill doesn't go through, so that the cop doesn't get any results in case there's a doctor.

You also roleblock and try to kill the cop when your roleblocker claimed tracker.

I protected DTMaster last night. Supposedly, Raivann "tracked" DTMaster last night. Hmmmm. This should be REALLY REALLY OBVIOUS PEOPLE. I bet there's two scum left and one of them tried the kill and the other one roleblocked DTMaster. I protected DTMaster so he's still alive. Raivann is clearly scum whose plan flubbed up and is trying to take a town PR down with him before we catch on to him.

Vote: Raivann

[Seraphim]

All results that SHOULD HAVE been sent out last night have been sent out.
Otherwise, consider it a no result

Seriously, is the person who hasn't read the game the only person who has read the game now? Seriously?

Unvote

until I read through the entire game, which apparently I need to do now.

Also, can someone explain to me why Rai's no result on Snow White was the same as a guilty on her.?

[Seraphim]

Once I read the (entire) thread, I hope to do just that. For now, I need to go to bed, so don't lynch me in the meantime.

[Seraphim]

FUCK IT WE NEED TO MASSCLAIM TODAY.

HACKER GO.
SETH GO.

I was just about to say this.

[Seraphim]

I want Socio to claim too. All of you, in your next post.

[Seraphim]

The Mask

- Town Copier(died before he could do shit)

Chronopie

- Town Neighbor(died before he could do shit)

Hrezs

- Town Neighbor(couldn't do anything after Chrono was lynched)

dramonic

- Investigation Immune Action Manipulating Serial Killer(redirector? is that what action manipulating means? ....)

BloodCovenent

- Mafia Godmother(presumably investigation-immune...killed dram N1 if Raivann is to be believed)

Snow White

- Mafia Watcher(targeted no one N2...? Why?)
Seraphim - Jack of all Trades(targeted HackerHuck with tracker N1, followed him to seth, no action N2, targeted DTMaster with doc protect N3)
Fate - Miller/Beloved Princess(presumably he has no night actions to track)
vezokpiraka - one-shot dayvig(presumably he has no night actions to track)
Raivann - Tracker(tracked BC to Dram N1, tracked SW to no one N2)
DTMaster - Insane/Naive Cop(targeted Fate N1, innocent, targeted S_W N2, innocent)
HackerHuck - ?????? (targeted seth N1)
seth - ??????? (targeted by HackerHuck N1)
Sociopath - ???????

[Seraphim]

Look Sera, scum don't Roleblock AND kill someone when there's TWO scanner roles in play.

OR MAYBE RAIVANN IS SCUM TRYING TO KILL OFF THE LAST "SCANNER" ROLE. EVER THINK OF THAT?!

ALSO FOUND THIS WHILE READING:

Of course Exilion didn't have a night action on N2...he declared V/LA here.

[Seraphim]

ALRIGHT. MY CHARACTER'S NAME IS BRUCE MATHIS. I'M ALSO THE BIOLOGICAL FATHER OF DENNIS AND DEE REYNOLDS. APPARENTLY I'M A RICH PHILANTHROPIST WHO ADOPTS CHILDREN AND HOLDS FUNDRAISERS AND SHIT WHICH ALSO GIVES ME JOAT POWERS. FOR EXAMPLE, I AM SUPPOSEDLY HELPING SICK PEOPLE WITH MY DOCTOR ABILITY AND I AM FINDING THE TRUTH WHEN I TRACK SOMEONE. MY OTHER TWO ABILITIES ONLY KINDA MAKE SENSE. MY ONE-SHOT VIG IS SUPPOSEDLY FIGHTING POVERTY AND I AM SUPPOSEDLY FIGHTING THE POWER WITH MY BUS DRIVER ABILITY. GO FIGURE.

Also, this caps thing is addicting.

Seraphim, Exilon's play----> Watch on Seth makes NO FUCKING SENSE.

I tracked HackerHuck, dumbass.

[Seraphim]

I DON'T KNOW WHY HE DIDN'T SHOT YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHY HE TRACKED HACKERHUCK. I DON'T. FUCKING. KNOW. HE'S NOT ME, THAT'S FOR SURE. STOP FUCKING MISREPPING THE FACTS.

[Seraphim]

WELL THAT'S HOW WELL I CAN DO GIVEN THAT, YES, MY ROLE PM DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE. I WOULD QUOTE MY ABILITY NAMES BUT I FIGURE THAT WOULD GET ME MODKILLED.

[Seraphim]

GO TO FUCKING HELL, YOU'RE STILL NOT CONFIRMED TOWN LIKE YOU THINK YOU ARE MR MILLER BELOVED PRINCESS. IF YOU'RE SUCH A SCUMHUNTING CHAMPION YOU'D HAVE FOUND REAL SCUM BY NOW RATHER THAN RUNNING UP YOUR FUCKING JACK OF ALL TRADES WITH A ONE-SHOT VIG AND A BUS DRIVER ABILITY LEFT.

[Seraphim]

I refuse to self-hammer and giving you the satisfaction of having gotten to me you fucking dumbass. I hope town finally runs you up like you deserve tomorrow once I flip town.

[Seraphim]

I DONT CARE WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE SCUM. YOU'RE JUST AS STUPID AS VEZOK, JUST LOUDER.

[Seraphim]

Alright. Alright. Let's calm down. Both of us. If you ever calm down. Riddle me this: there is less than 24 hours between me replacing in and Day 4 starting. How good of scum do you think I am to come up with this master plan of mine? If I'm the roleblocker, why is there is no kill? Why didn't I use my kill last night? Why did I roleblock DTMaster, who had little chance of investigating me, a player who just replaced in?

RIDDLE ME THIS, FATE.

[Seraphim]

alright.

why don't unvote to prevent a quickhammer.

and we'll see if anyone counterclaims my doc protect. Also, another flaw in your idea: I'm pretty sure people can only use one active action per night. Meaning, I could only kill OR roleblock, not both.

[Seraphim]

Also, according to your logic, wouldn't optimal scum play be to roleblock the Tracker and kill the Cop?

I can only use one action at a time, I'm assuming other people are under the same restriction.

Also, difficult to find scumz when EVERYONE HASN'T FULLCLAIMED YET. But while we're here, why don't you explain the flavor of your role. How are you a miller and a beloved princess at the same time.

[Seraphim]

does your target die if scum target the person you visit? In other words, do you both die? Also, if HH is telling the truth, he's just confirmed half the town besides Fate, myself, and our two claimed investigative roles. Hmmmmmm.

[Seraphim]

Seth: claim now.
or Sociopath. I'm not terrible picky right now. I want to see if we can't break this game wide open.

[Seraphim]

Oh yeah, I want Fate to explain his role flavor.

[Seraphim]

If HH hadn't just confirmed him, I would say we should lynch him.

[Seraphim]

I am inclined to believe Socio's claim because if he was scum, he would have let HH confirm him and not claimed the mass roleblock. So whee. Well, I had a town read anyway, so it's okay. Also, seth needs to claim. But even without seth's claim, I think I've broken the game and know who the last scum is/are.

Don't lynch me tonight. I want some time to mull over the recent developments and organize my thoughts. ALSO BEFORE I GET LYNCHED PERIOD, I WANT TO HEAR HOW I KNEW HH TARGETED SETH N1 KTHXBAI

Mod: Prod seth

[Seraphim]

Also, I keep disappearing because I have a life outside of this website.

[Seraphim]

Shut the fuck up, Mr. I-suck-at-one-shot-vig.

The Mask

- Town Copier(died before he could do shit)

Chronopie

- Town Neighbor(died before he could do shit)

Hrezs

- Town Neighbor(couldn't do anything after Chrono was lynched)

dramonic

- Investigation Immune Action Manipulating Serial Killer(redirector? is that what action manipulating means? ....)

BloodCovenent

- Mafia Godmother(presumably investigation-immune...killed dram N1 if Raivann is to be believed)

Snow White

- Mafia Watcher(targeted no one N2...? Why?)
Seraphim - Jack of all Trades(targeted HackerHuck with tracker N1, followed him to seth, no action N2, targeted DTMaster with doc protect N3, roleblocked N3)
Fate - Miller/Beloved Princess(presumably he has no night actions to track)
vezokpiraka - one-shot dayvig(presumably he has no night actions to track)
Raivann - Tracker(tracked BC to Dram N1, tracked SW, got no result due to RB? N2, no result N3 due to mass roleblock)
DTMaster - Insane/Naive Cop(targeted Fate N1, innocent, targeted S_W N2, innocent, no result N3)
HackerHuck - Hider (targeted seth N1, targeted vezok N2, targeted Socio N3)
Sociopath - One-Shot Mass Roleblocker(used N3)
seth - ??????? (targeted by HackerHuck N1)

If I am lynched today, Fate's refusal to fullclaim should really be looked at more closely tomorrow. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_It ... e_Waitress

This is his character. I want to know why he's a miller and a beloved princess.

Also, Hider doesn't always make the hider untargetable.

[Seraphim]

um...Hacker said he thought Raivann was a likely scum target not likely scum. Not defending him but just preventing a misrep.

[Seraphim]

Fate, stop being scum, Rai is the better play.

Yeah if you're scum massroleblocker trying to lynch a fuckin town scanner role over a town unprovable bullshit Joat claim

"Unprovable"? I have a fucking one-shot vig, it doesn't get any more provable than that.

[Seraphim]

SocioPath, I think I love you. Seriously, have I ever told you how much you kick ass?

In other news, why are all the confirmed town fucking dumbasses(except for SP even if he really isn't confirmed)? vezok continues to be stupid, living up to his meta and play in Mafia vs Werewolves. I was a member of a Mason team with him and this other guy. The two of them, but mostly vezok, managed to out the entire mason team by "bussing" each other and confusing the fuck out of the town. I claimed and sorted out the whole mess but talk about a buzzkill.

seth's post seems to contain votes and little else. Remind me to avoid games with seth in the future.

SocioPath is also 100% correct and I want Raivann to explain right now what the difference was.

Vote: Raivann

My vote isn't moving. seth, claim you fucking waste of space or replace out. You don't seem interested in playing the game.

[Seraphim]

...bomb? Explain your role.

[Seraphim]

also, seth is still a dumbass and makes vezok look like Stephen Hawking.

Of course my reaction was that, or are you incapable of reading? Up until recently, I had only read the last few pages of the previous day to get a feel for what was happening in the game without having to read through the entire thing, which my predecessor, having gone V/LA, was not included in. Also, you seem incapable of articulating why you're voting me even now or even coming close to grasping why my predecessor was scummy either. So stop sucking Fate's cock and see if you're even capable of scumhunting.

[Seraphim]

Okay parrot, bombs can be different for different people. Paraphrase your role.

Also, what kind of balance is having a Beloved Princess and a Bomb in the same game?

[Seraphim]

Holy shit it's Fate's clone except it's incapable of scumhunting or procuring its own content.

I want to hear YOU paraphrase your FUCKING ROLE and the flavor EXPLANATION as to why YOU ARE A BOMB.

[Seraphim]

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[Seraphim]

new plan: we lynch Raivann, I shoot seth tonight. Then we both blow up and everyone is happy .

[Seraphim]

Dude, it's going to be so fucking hilarious when I flip town.

[Seraphim]

which makes it THAT MUCH MORE FUNNY when I do.

[Seraphim]

Yeah but that means I'm lying too, DT, because I have a track going with Hacker going to seth.

The Mask

- Town Copier(died before he could do shit)

Chronopie

- Town Neighbor(died before he could do shit)

Hrezs

- Town Neighbor(couldn't do anything after Chrono was lynched)

dramonic

- Investigation Immune Action Manipulating Serial Killer(redirector? is that what action manipulating means? ....)

BloodCovenent

- Mafia Godmother(presumably investigation-immune...killed dram N1 if Raivann is to be believed)

Snow White

- Mafia Watcher(targeted no one N2...? Why?)
Seraphim - Jack of all Trades(targeted HackerHuck with tracker N1, followed him to seth, no action N2, targeted DTMaster with doc protect N3)
Fate - Miller/Beloved Princess(presumably he has no night actions to track)
vezokpiraka - one-shot dayvig(presumably he has no night actions to track)
Raivann - Tracker(tracked BC to Dram N1, tracked SW, got no result due to RB? N2)
DTMaster - Insane/Naive Cop(targeted Fate N1, innocent, targeted S_W N2, innocent)
HackerHuck - Hider (targeted seth N1, targeted vezok N2, targeted Socio N3)
Sociopath - One-Shot Mass Roleblocker(used N3)
seth - Bomb (targeted by HackerHuck N1)

Let's hurry up and lynch Raivann.

[Seraphim]

Eh, as much as I like that idea, I still think we'd have to deal with Beloved Princess if Fate is, in fact, a Beloved Princess which I'm seriously beginning to doubt.

[Seraphim]

Vote Count:

Seraphim (2): seth, Raivann
HackerHuck(1): vezokpiraka
Raivann(1): Seraphim

With 8 alive, it is 5 to lynch.

Not voting (4): SocioPath, HackerHuck, DTMaster, Fate

This is accurate as far as I know. More later.

[Seraphim]

Apparently Sociopath can't put together a coherent argument for why Raivann is scum.

Vote Seraphim

I only wish it were the hammer.

Like there's totally a coherent reason for why I'm scum.

[Seraphim]

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Hider

The wiki doesn't seem to think the Hider becomes non-targetable by anything though I've certainly heard of this variant before. If there's nothing in HackerHuck's role PM saying that he becomes non-targetable while hiding, then I don't think he becomes non-targetable.

[Seraphim]

I am sure I targeted him. And when I flip EXACTLY like I said I would, hopefully the idiots in this town will out Raivann and Fate for the scumbags they are. Hacker is targetable by everything except NKs while hiding, surprise, surprise, that's how fucking site meta works for that role and HH hasn't said anything to the contrary.

I'm at L-1 and I bet vezok comes in and says "lol Seraphim is obv scum hammer tiem" or some variant thereof and hammers me so whatever.

[Seraphim]

nope, he's voting HackerHuck last I checked if my votecount is to be believed.

[Seraphim]

EBWOP: Yeah, he's voting HackerHuck.

[Seraphim]

Who got blocked last night ?

Everyone. Read the damn game. Sociopath used a universal roleblock and universally roleblocked everyone.

[Seraphim]

Socio is town, dude. My vote is so totally in the right place right now.

Let's get some more votes going people.

[Seraphim]

Because you're scum?

Answer this: Explain the contradiction several people have pointed out between your play yesterday, where you didn't freak out when you got a no result, and today, where you did?

[Seraphim]

Then why did you vote Snow White despite getting no result on her? How were you so SURE that you were roleblocked?

[Seraphim]

You got no result. In a game where EVERYONE IS A POWER ROLE, including scum. And you didn't think that might clear her in some way? In other words, your "scumdar" overrode the results you got?

[Seraphim]

I outted myself that day and lynched BC, I assumed I was blocked.

It's still not good play, though. What if you

weren't

roleblocked? What if SW was town and really had submitted no action? It's a huge leap of faith, even if you did suspect roleblock shenanigans.

In other words, bussing/distancing to look more town.

Let's wrap this up.

[Seraphim]

Alright, let's gather round the campfire and claim actions. DTMaster, I hope you have something to report because I sure as fuck was roleblocked last night.

[Seraphim]

I tried to kill Fate last night. Obviously, it didn't work.

seth, you're still stupid.

[Seraphim]

Alright. I think I've broken the game. Unless something changes, here's what we're going to do and the logic behind it. First of all, I'm going to assume that this is a 10-3-1 setup as opposed to a 9-4-1 setup. Hopefully this is a safe assumption as I'm assuming that Reck isn't going to make a game that's wildly and insanely unbalanced.

With 7 players alive, there is one scum among us, presumably.

Today, we lynch HackerHuck. If Hacker dies and flips town, we have, at the least, DTMaster, vezokpiraka, and seth all as confirmed town coming into tomorrow meaning that the scum has to be within Fate, Sociopath, or myself. It also proves that DTMaster is a naive cop. We know scum have a roleblocker but he will most likely kill tomorrow with all investigative roles dead and with half the town coming in confirmed. I will be busdriving who I think is the most likely kill target with seth so maybe they'll think twice about killing and leave half the confirmed town alive, leaving us in a very favorable position tomorrow.

If Hacker flips scum, good game.

Vote: HackerHuck

[Seraphim]

I seriously doubt there are four scum at this point.

[Seraphim]

Hey, Fate, if I'm scum, why wasn't there a kill last night? Why wasn't DTMaster roleblocked? Is someone lying about being a doctor, Fate? Or a redirector? Is someone not claiming their full role? Where did the kill go last night, Fate?

[Seraphim]

Hey, where's Sociopath and vezok? We need to someone to hammer up in here.

[Seraphim]

psh, I'll bus whoever I want and now that Fate has claimed bulletproof, there's no reason to bus him at all.

[Seraphim]

SEE I TOLD YOU I WAS TOWN BITCHES. WHOOOOO.

[Seraphim]

FATE I'M SORRY I EVER THOUGH YOU WERE SCUM. CAN YOU FORGIVE ME?

[Seraphim]

Presumably DTMaster was an insane cop then?

[Seraphim]

I thought for sure that Fate was scum after he wasn't dead after so long but then the bulletproof came along and that explained basically all the missing kills.

[Seraphim]

...lol.

[Seraphim]

I was tempted to investigate Sephriam last night, but his posts felt honest to me for some reason so I stuck with my gut reads :3

Perhaps the reason was that I was town? XP

[Seraphim]

Also, Reck, next time you call me in to replace someone, can it not be someone about to be run up to a lynch?

[Seraphim]

Come on, what do you take Reck for, an idiot? An obviously broken thing like that would never be allowed to go through.