Close Examination of VasudeVa's d2 actions
Note: For ease of read, my thoughts are in
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ISO 31: VV asks that Vimes claim with his power. At the same time, he states what he suspect is the game mechanic: All VTs then random townies get power roles. He also asks people to speculate on what Drunkeness might do.
One of the greatest mistake VV made in this post is giving away information that mafia possibly didn't have. He informed (or at the very least confirmed) the mafia that town is full of townies with no powers, which is a huge benefit to mafia because 1) they are now aware that they won't have to hunt for prs, 2) practically knows what role VV is even if his guess on the mechanics were false and there are permanent prs, and 3) destroyed (at least considerably reduced) the credibility of any permanent prs (if they exist) that might claim later in the game. Additionally, Vimes is a character who is almost instantly cleared just by his name. (doubts still exist, but it's would be similar to a Frodo-claim in Lord of the Rings). Therefore, Vimes is a player who is valuable even without his powers, and should be protected by keeping him hidden. Asking for speculation on his power only helps mafia, since it gives them a clue to what the power might be, as well as enabling them to narrow down who Vimes might be. I felt that this post was damaging to the town, and I
ISO 32, 33, 34: VV explains his previous post by saying that information will help town get organized, and will help catch lying scum.
Extremely vague response and explanations. VV doesn't explain how the additional information will help town get organized, or how it will catch scum. He posts:
VasudeVa wrote:Scum already have all the information they need, as an informed minority, to win the game. Town doesn't. ANY information Town gets helps Town better in the long run.
Scum clearly do not have all the info they need. They do not know who Vimes is or what his power does. Knowing those things will help them win the game. I fail to see how town will benefit from Vimes claiming (and getting killed off early) in the long run. Clearly VV need to explain his reasoning better.
ISO 35, 36: VV writes off Button's accusations as wiki-tells, which he claims are outdated and extremely lazy. He also says that "Knowing who's what organizes Town. An organized Town is a Town to fear."
Other than the obviously lazy defense VV employs, he doesn't even tries to reason anything out. He basically claimed that because "Button is attacking me that happens to be in the wiki, I am entitled to ignore his case.", which doesn't do much defending him, while exposes his own laziness. Also, he still doesn't explain how knowing who Vimes is will help the town.
ISO 38, 39: VV supports his previous claim that "knowing who's what organized.......to fear" by saying that scum are already organized. He also is waiting for Vimes to claim. Then mocks Button by voting him via "wiki-tell".
What VV exactly means by "organized", I'm not sure any more. He never explained how exactly this would help town. Is being "organized" some state of invincibility? He further exposes his own laziness to scumhunt by giving the excuse of "waiting for Vimes to claim", and when Button, who obviously has seen enough of VV, asks the town to vote VV, VV posts this in response.
VasudeVa wrote:Lol, no one's listening to ButtonMen. Allow me to taunt you while you shamelessly call for my wagon. Ha. Ha. Ha.
Also, here's a wiki-tell.
Vote: ButtonMen
What's here is VV taunting and laughing at Button. What's missing is any sort of meaningful defense against Button's case. Furthermore, VV blatantly ignores my vote on him and existence. And no, he doesn't show much respect for other players in this game.
ISO 41:
VasudeVa wrote:Vote: FakeGod
I am dissappoint that no one is listening to me on ButtonMen. I also like the fact that he has been posting elsewhere whilst ignoring my attack on him. Yum yum Scum. Still, FG is scum with him so w/e.
VV ignores mod's request to unvote before voting another player to avoid confusion (see rule 5 and 5-1), vote FG as soon as he posts that he will be V/LA for the day, for no reason other than because FG followed Button's vote and voted VV, and the fact that Button has no vote and will be hard to get other people to lynch him.
This is my thoughts on VV on d2.
