Mafia on Holy Orders (Game Over!)

[Vi]

Vote Count Vi

~ A vote count for the mod

Wraith (L-4) ~ SocioPath, Iecerint,

Friend,

Fate, Socrates, mothrax

vezokpiraka (L-5) ~ Plum, AGar, Me=Weird (Beefster), Friend
Furcolow (L-6) ~ animorpherv1, Sebguer, pacman
Friend (L-8) ~

Plum, AGar,

vezokpiraka
animorpherv1 (L-8) ~ Wraith,

mothrax

Beefster (L-8) ~ Locke Lamora
Sebguer (L-8) ~ Furcolow

Locke Lamora (L-9) ~

Me=Weird (Beefster)

Not Voting:

zwetschenwasser

--With 17 alive, it will take 9 to lynch.

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(61%)

[zwetschenwasser]

my PR < basis for town read
fate's tunneling < unsubstantiated
wraith's defense < complete

[Wraith]

I don't have any more to say, zwet. However misguided or not-useful some or all of you may see it, I've at least tried to help the town. Figure out who you're going to lynch and do it. As for me, if an animorph wagon isn't going to get off the ground, I'll join the vezok wagon. I've already stated that I think he's scum.

unvote Vote: vezokpiraka

[zwetschenwasser]

vote hopping and giving up < townie
giving up = slight AtE

[Friend]

I can't decide between wraith and vezo.

[AGar]

yes AGar, you followed the wagon on wraith when your vezo push didn't work out and your most recent vote on vezo comes right after a vote on vezo from plum.
and it comes with only this under a bunch of "Plum is Good"

I never even voted Wraith, and I have previously built reasoning on vezo. Read the goddamn thread, alright? I wagonned Friend for contradictions I found, but also for a reaction. You're an idiot, and showing yourself to be a terrible player. Shape up or ship out dammit.

Why the hell are we wagoning vezo?
For Active Lurking?

Try inherently scummy behavior in his minimal posting, hopping on wagons for no reason, complete and deliberate OMGUS voting and lovely contradictions like ISO #1 (not 0) and #3. Care to read things, or are you and mothrax going to be so ignorant to the rest of the thread all game?

Friend, vezo is the better wagon. Look at his posting, look at Wraith's. Wraith isn't completely obvious. AtE is null, and I can say that completely with him - he does it regardless of alignment. Resigning to the lynch though, I've only see him do as town. He usually fights to the death as scum.

[Furcolow]

I have been emotionally drained, and I can't catch up on mafia right now, because I've had a very taxing day in real life. I will have to catch up tomorrow.

[vezokpiraka]

Oh. I hate this game.
Stupid mechanics.


what do you want me to say. I see people arguing about stuff but not making cases. Furc is still scum.
Wraith is AtEing He jumps on my wagon for no real reason. Just to save his ass.

@me=weird : I know your weird but I am a male.

unvote
Vote wraith

[mothrax]

Apologies AGar, I misread the votecount. When I said wraith I meant friennnd. Just pointing out your buddying to plum.

[Socrates]

Oh hey, a Vezo wagon day 1. I have yet to see a game that he is in where this hasn't happened.

Hey, Agar! I KNOW you've played with Vezo before. How is this any different from how he normally plays? And I don't want to hear any "I don't care if he does it every time he is town, it's scummy ANYWAY" bullshit.

[Me=Weird]

Mind if I answer instead of AGar? I've played with vezo.

[zwetschenwasser]

Socrates' comment = vezo meta

[Socrates]

Mind if I answer instead of AGar? I've played with vezo.

Shoot.

[Wraith]

I'm not trying to save my ass, because I don't care if I'm dead or alive. I care about lynching the scum, and protecting the PRs. Besides, if vezok flips town, I'll likely be the Day 2 lynch anyways, so no matter what I do it's a lose-lose for me. I'm just going to try to take one of them down before I go.

[Wraith]

My last statement was incomplete/ambiguous, so I'll finish it:

To vote for vezok is a win-win for me. If I don't vote him, my vote is useless, and I'll probably get lynched. If I get lynched today, my suspicions are clearly visible and you can make what you will of them when I flip town. If vezok gets lynched today and flips scum, I was right, and hopefully people will finally believe me when I say I'm town (there will be those who will say I'm scum bussing a partner, who are probably the scum themselves). I vezok is lynched and flips town, I was wrong, I probably get lynched tomorrow. Oh well.

My prediction (assuming vezok is scum for this): the scum partners stay on my wagon until I'm either lynched or the vezok wagon overtakes mine. They'll jump ship at the last reason for poor or no reasons and bus their partner.

[Wraith]

EBWOP: *at the last minute

[Friend]

Who are the scumpartners currently on your wagon. Here's a list.

SocioPath, Iecerint, Fate, Socrates, mothrax

[Wraith]

I have no scum partners. You'll have to figure out yourself who the scumbag(s) on my wagon are, unless you already know.

[Iecerint]

You said there were 1-2 scum on your wagon before IIRC.

[Socrates]

I have no scum partners. You'll have to figure out yourself who the scumbag(s) on my wagon are, unless you already know.

Thats quite the equivocation. So you aren't willing to try to pick out the scum on your own wagon? Even though you seem to be sure that there is scum there?

[pacman281292]

drunkpost coming here. Don't expect much quality.
FoS: Wraith. His latest posts have just said "I'm not scum!" in many creative ways. No content at all, just pushing for the other wagon.
vezo seems to be making the exact same thing (while not AtEing as Wraith is). Wraith would rank into my scumlist higher than vezo, however. I seem to not to catch the point on vezo's wagon.
Also, I still hate when people *cough friend cough* just start saying "personx is scum" without the slightest bit of elaboration. Just saying (and repeating).

[Friend]

I didn't say they were your scumpartners. You said they were vezo's buddies.

[Furcolow]

Oh hey, a Vezo wagon day 1. I have yet to see a game that he is in where this hasn't happened.

Hey, Agar! I KNOW you've played with Vezo before. How is this any different from how he normally plays? And I don't want to hear any "I don't care if he does it every time he is town, it's scummy ANYWAY" bullshit.

Why are you willing to become affiliated with his defense? Do you want to be implicated with his flip? I'm not saying that it shows your alignment one way or another, because if you're town you don't know, and if you're scum you could be buddying/defending town.

I'm not trying to save my ass, because I don't care if I'm dead or alive. I care about lynching the scum, and protecting the PRs. Besides, if vezok flips town, I'll likely be the Day 2 lynch anyways, so no matter what I do it's a lose-lose for me. I'm just going to try to take one of them down before I go.

This is Wraith town meta in my opinion, but my opinion isn't always right.


The scum on his wagon imo would be Fate, and i'm leaning towards another, but I really don't want to say who

[Wraith]

I didn't say I was certain, I said it was likely. @Socrates: Any sumhunting I do on my wagon will be immediately discredited as OMGUS. I'm not wasting my time.

If you want my

opinion

, though, the scumbag is Fate. People also seem to be suspicious of mothrax but I haven't really read him and have no opinion on him.

[Furcolow]

if you have no opinion of him, and you haven't read him, why mention him at all?