Mini 1036 - DEFCON Mafia - Over

[SocioPath]

3) Went to Scumstorm

SCREW YOOOOU.
I WAS ANTICIPATING YOU SHOWING UP.
NOT FOR YOU.
I COULDNT CARE LESS ABOUT YOOOOOU.

BUT YOU HAVE WAR ON TERROR.
AND IVE BEEN WANTING TO PLAY THAT GAME FOR AAAAAAAGES.
AND YOU RUINED THAT FOR ME.

I CANT EVEN BUY IT NOW BECAUSE A NEWER EDITION IS COMING OUT AND I NEED TO WAIT FOR THAAAT.




Also anyone who actually -hasn't- played this game:
I hate you and you should go die and not waste a player slot.
This game rocks so much face.

FOS: SOCIOPATH

OH MAN THAT GUY ROCKED SO MUCH FACE LAST AGM GAME I CANNOT TRUST ANYTHING THAT GUY SAYS.

[SocioPath]

WHAT IS THIS SOMEONE WANTED TO SEE ME BESIDES REAPERCHARLIE THE BLOODY TRAITOR? YOU SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME AND I WOULD HAVE TRIED HARDER TO ESCAPE FROM MY MORMON RELATIVES.

No no no, I didn't want to see YOU.
I wanted to see your GAME.

But seriously. Its a great game and I'd love to have people to play it with sometime... whereabouts do you live? I live in WA.

IN THE GENERAL AREA AROUND SCUMSTORM.

[SocioPath]

LESS SILENCE
MORE VIOLENCE

[SocioPath]

As a result, to confirm the validity of saying "I got option #6, this must mean option #1-5 were taken by other players".

This -probably- is a REALLY bad idea early game.

THIS.

IN THAT HIGHLY UNLIKELY PRESENTED SCENARIO, THAT PLAYER WOULD HOLD A MASSIVE INFORMATION LEAD.



IN OTHER NEWS:
THIS GAME IS GOING TO BE AWESOME
SO GODDAMMIT I DONT WANT TO SEE ANYONE REPLACE OUT
LAST AGM GAME THERE WERE ZERO. I REPEAT AND EMPHASIZE ZERO. REPLACEMENTS NEEDED.
NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE PLAYER ZERO. WHO ALSO DIDNT NEED REPLACING.

[SocioPath]

IN THAT HIGHLY UNLIKELY PRESENTED SCENARIO

Do you think it's that unlikely? If you miss out on your first choice, then you could end up going way down the line if other people have picked your other choices as their first choice.

Due to the randomization system...HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

[SocioPath]

Does it actually matter how unlikely it is? I can't see a really good reason to discuss it at the moment.

This. The "What abilities are useful and what aren't" discussion really isn't helping out a lot either especially since most people have already sent in their choices. Sure its harmless and isn't hurting the town... Unless its all that people are talking about.

YES.
DISCUSSION OF ANY NATURE HINDERS THE TOWN.
OH WAIT.

The fact that this thread hasn't been the most active ALREADY and then you come in ans say "DONT DO THIS! PEOPLE HAVE SENT THEIR CHOICES"...?

Wat.

You know, time flows in a pretty constant forward motion.
You pick out a random quote in the discussion, and criticize it because PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY PICKED THEIR CHOICES?
THE QUOTE YOU RANDOMLY QUOTED WAS 21 HOURS INTO A 72 HOUR PHASE.

YOU REALLY THINK EVERYONE JUMPED THE GUN THE SECOND DEF4 POPPED UP AND FLOODED WITH LISTS OF CHOICES?
BEFORE IT WAS EVEN REALLY DISCUSSED IN THREAD THE MECHANICS OF ROLES WORKING?!
OR "OH GEE SOME OF THESE ROLES MESH TOGETHER BETTER THAN OTHERS"?

I DONT KNOW WHAT THREADS YOUVE BEEN DISCUSSING IN, BUT IN THIS THREAD IT WAS KINDA IMPORTANT.
*COUGH*

[SocioPath]

Can we all just twiddle our thumbs and stop hating until we can start voting. Let's be friends while it lasts!

In all seriousness though, I know it's pointless discussion but I really don't know how fruitful scumhunting will be until everyone gets a chance to put their vote where their mouth is.

This post...

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I DID NOT GET THE SUB THAT I WAS AIMING FOR.

Outing the sub may not do much for us, honestly. I can't see why scum would actually claim it.

Well gee, if no one claims sub, even if they are lying through their teeth, THAT MEANS SCUM HAS A SUB.

SUB = SILO for OFFENSIVE DEATH

SILO gives DEFENSE VS. A FIRST KILL FREE FOR SUB

VOTE: SPY

FOR BEING A TERRORIST

[SocioPath]

If I were skimming through something else say, a death scene then that could definately be scummy (since if I were maf I would know what happened since I killed them).

WHAT ABOUT THE TERRORIST.

[SocioPath]

^EBWOP: Addon to the Enigma part: On supposedly

confirmed

townies, no less.

UNVOTE
VOTE: HINDURAGI

THIS IS GOOD.

[SocioPath]

Hey Socio... You going to you know? Actually contribute something?

NOPE.

Well gee, if no one claims sub, even if they are lying through their teeth, THAT MEANS SCUM HAS A SUB.

I don't agree with this, or with Elscouta's absolutes.

Does a Vig claim on D1? This is effectively what we're asking here. I want to discuss this point more, because I don't like how everyone is just jumping at the chance to claim their sub status.

Except that isn't the case at all, because the DEFAULT ROLE is a VIG CLAIM.
All the sub differs from is the fact that its first kill is SECRET.
So town getting a sub, then going "SUP GUYS I GOT THE SUB" would remove the informed factor of a kill popping out of no where.
The only DOWNSIDE is the difference between a silo and a sub:
Silos can be set defensively bullet proofing the first shot that day.
Subs don't have that option.

VOTE: HINDURAGI

THIS IS GOOD.

Why would scum want to confirm townies? Unless you think Andrius is a scumbuddy?

Let us look at the context used for the quotes that this statement was pulled from, OKAY CLASS?

^EBWOP: Addon to the Enigma part: On supposedly

confirmed

townies, no less.

This was an add on to this:

@Enigma: 2 confirmed townies my ass. Andrius just didn't read the rules. It's very possible he could be scum who didn't talk about the missile silo/offensive/defensive thing in his QT because he thought it was obvious, hence why he would mention it in the thread. Faraday proved my own town theory wrong. Also, why are you looking at ISO's for breadcrumbing?

So he is calling out the assumption of these CONFIRMED TOWNIES, right? AMIRITE?
Seems fine and all, BUT LET US LOOK AT THE CONTEXT OF WHOM HE IS CALLING OUT:

So it looks like we have done good, we have 2

confirmed

townies now, based on the fact that they failed to read the opening posts properly.

This was said, then Andrius was like "WAIT HOL DUP":

So it looks like we have done good, we have 2 confirmed townies now, based on the fact that they failed to read the opening posts properly.

I find this statement highly questionble. While I have no qualms about being called pro-town, your statement rubs me the wrong way. Like it isn't sincere. Gut perhaps...

SO DEN LIEK ENIG WUZ LIEK:

It isn't meant to be sincere. For those who don't notice it's sarcastic.

HURP DERP

BUT YO HINDU DUN CARE, HE STIL WUZ RIDIN DAT CONFIRMED TOWNIE TRAIN TO THE STATION.

And that is the MAGIC BEHIND MY VOTE.

Doom saying I've only got 1 useful post is silly as well.

Also, where the hell have you been this game?

MOVING.

[SocioPath]

VOTE: DOOMBUNNY

TASTE IT.

[SocioPath]

Socio happens to get online before me and decides to change votes to me for no reason whatsoever before I can its suddenly OMGUS?

Don't worry, I won't hold that against you. <3

[SocioPath]

Don't worry, I won't hold that against you. <3

Posts like these are why I'm voting you.

Oh? Not because you think I'm scum?
But because of posts like that?
A post where I state that the OMGUS-ness of things won't be used against you?
Because claims of that are silly?
Oh, okay.

@Socio- What is the reason behind you voting me?

HMMM.
Well Percy helped spell out a good chunk of it.

BUT LETS BREAK THIS DOWN.

You've been obstinate towards me this entire game, at first regarding basic simple things like discussion in of itself.
But that doesn't matter.

What does though is this:
I make a post detailing Hindu's scumtasticness, because people weren't understanding simple posts, and make a line about your dumbness, and all you do is COMMENT ON THE ONE LINE, IGNORING THE REST, AND CONTINUING TO SPOUT OUT "CONTENTLESS".
NOT ONLY THAT, YOU PAINT IT OFF AS A "DEFENSE".
HOLY FUCK.



In other news, I've NEVER seen a person replace into a game as THEMSELVES PLUS ANOTHER PERSON.
I mean, I would REALLY like a good explanation of THAT one.
As opposed to just STARTING THE GAME AS A HYDRA.

The only thought that comes into my mind is that the role was TOO COMPLEX and NEEDED MORE HEADS TO DEAL WITH IT.
But that doesn't even make any sense since this game's roles are all open.
The only complex factors is SCUM SCUM SCUM.
Especially given the SCUM TALK LEAKING FACTOR.
I refuse to comment further on the matter until explained.

SP #267: What happened to Hindu?

WHAT ABOUT HIM?

The fact that DB started heavily attacking me after my Hindu-ing only strengthens my resolve that Hindu is scum.
DB wanted my focus pulled from Hindu, and to try and throw me on the defensive to pull my efforts from elsewhere.

Then there is the fact that Hindu isn't saying shit, so there is no point in focusing on him at this point.
I'm not one to play "TUNNEL THE NONENTITY" game.
Nothing I've said is any less meaningful just because my vote moved and Hindu is non-responsive.

[SocioPath]

Then there is the fact that Hindu isn't saying shit, so there is no point in focusing on him at this point.

Hinduragi (2) - RedCoyote, Calcifer

Win.

Oh look, now you ARE saying shit, so now there IS a point.

Unvote
Vote: Hindu

[SocioPath]

The main thing is, Zhero doesn't really strike me as the type to be, like, absent-minded about something like that. I don't know him very well

I do, and we rocked face as scum with the last AGM modded game.
Cause he knew I would bus him in a heartbeat if otherwise.

[SocioPath]

I'd vote Calcifer before anyone else involved in this current discussion concerning him.

Is it so hard to accept that Andy has an established meta of softclaiming/breadcrumbing with somewhat silly reasons? D=

Go read the last 3 pages of the Title Fairy Thread. I've been nominated for all sorts of titles from

The Baker, Hansel, CEO of Panera Bread, Breadcrumb Baker, Sir Sourdough, Prince Pumpernickle

etc. So yeah. Its my established meta, for "better or for worse".

CAKE, MEET ICING.

[SocioPath]

Socio, do you think Calcifer is scum-Radar who just apparently outed his own partner?

Uh what?
No, that doesn't even begin to make sense to me.
A radar is a tracker that cant track the only thing that really matters. (KILLS)
Even I don't think that Calci would be THAT demented.

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Socio: Do you think that Radar is useless for town? Do you think scum have no use for it?

That is not what I was getting at, at all.
YES RADAR IS USEFUL.

But the fact is: WHO IN FUCKS SAKE WOULD BUS THERE PARTNER THIS EARLY ON SOMETHING THAT ISNT A KILL?
The only auto-assumed track that would lead to a bussing (ESPECIALLY THIS EARLY) would be claiming you tracked a person to the kill: woohoo, you 'outted' your partner, you buy town creds, and ride the game.

BUT THIS EARLY ON SOMETHING -NOT- A KILL?
HOW IS SCUM PARTNER OUTTED AGAIN?!
THIS I DO NOT KNOW.

[SocioPath]

That's what I was getting at.

THEN WHY ARE YOU WASTING MY TIME?!

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HAHAHA OH WOW.

Those messages are silly.
There is no consistency to them at all.
I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if the scum went, 'alright, lets recreate each person and imitate them for each post, that way it, both, equally incriminates and clears everyone."
Not to mention the random throwing out of numbers AND codes for them.
Even the "DoomBunny" post doesn't make sense. 5%? Where in the hell did THAT number even come from?

Seems like a clusterfuck of nonsense.

But then there is the other side of the coin:
If scum got eavesdropper, than they could control the output.
Meaning it doesn't matter WHAT gets dropped to them, because they could just pick and choose whichever that would cause chaos and confusion and incriminate at will.

SO MANY FACTORS.

[SocioPath]

WHY WOULD DB FOCUS ON ME ALL GAME...BUT THE POST HE MAKES RIGHT BEFORE FLEEING FOR A LARGE CHUNK OF TIME...SWITCH GEARS ENTIRELY, INCLUDING VOTE...?!
ALL THE VOTE. NONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITY.

[SocioPath]

YO.
IMMA SILO.
MY ONLY CHOICE IN MY LIST WAS A SUB.

BETTER DEAD WHEN RED.

VOTE: RED

[SocioPath]

Hey Sociopath, what do you think of the game so far?

ITS GOOD STUFF.
Except a bit slower than my last AGM game which kinda saddens me, although that is a lot of my fault too, as my actively level has been shattered.
BUT MY READ WAS GOOD.

THE PROBLEM THOUGH IS MY OTHER MAIN READ WAS FUCKED UP BECAUSE OF YOU PERCY, YOU.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?

Ive given it some time, to compile all that crap in my head.
And have decided to eschew it.
Some stupid silly WIFOM game shouldn't interfere with ACTUAL SCUMHUNTING.
AND MY CASE WAS A GOOD ONE.

VOTE: HINDU

We can test the nuke claims, and make it LyLo. In fact, I think that's the best idea. We should use the nukes as a pre-lynch, rather than the standard play (No Lynch) in this position. At least we have a chance of hitting scum this way.

FINE WITH ME.
BUT MY NUKE ISNT GOING TO RESULT FROM A TOWN CIRCLE JERKING, I.E. DONT BOTHER TRYING TO CONTROL IT WITH PSEUDO-VOTES.
MY NUKE IS THE NUKE THAT SHALL PIERCE THE HEAVENS.

AND I JOINED THIS GAME FOR SOME MASSIVE NUKING ACTION.
Which actually kind of saddens me with the setup, considering their were 10 power roles, meaning good potential of actually quite few with silos, and 8 of those power roles have nothing to do with NUKES in general, one of which goes so far as to actually make for fewer NUKES.

KINDA IRONIC WHEN LOOKING UPON THIS GAME AS A SOCIAL EXPERIMENT THOUGH:
EVERYONE ALWAYS WANTS TO BE A DAYVIG.
BUT WHEN YOU START AS ONE, IT DOESNT SEEM AS SPECIAL.
AND THEREFOR STRIVE TO BE SOMETHING ELSE.
REMINDS ME OF A FALLACY THAT I CANT THINK OF THE NAME RIGHT NOW.

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SocioPath

has received his second prod.

Wow...
That prod was 7 posts away from my last post.

And Sociopath, you're saying I messed up your Doombunny read? What even?

No, I was referring to Hindu and your flooded texts from your role.

Are you sold enough on your case to nuke Hinduragi?

I'll leave that question to the philosophers.

Your instant turn on Doombunny the next day took most of the bite out of it.

What is this?

[SocioPath]

HERE I AM, TESTING SOME CLAIMS.
ABOUT THAT TIME, EH CHAP?
RIGHTO.

NUKE: ZERO

[SocioPath]

A SAD DAY BE TODAY.

[SocioPath]

I STAND BY MY STATEMENT THAT THERE WERE NOT PHYSICALLY ENOUGH NUKES TO MAINTAIN THE HECTIC FLAVOR OF THE THEME.

[SocioPath]

Fuck. I didn't see that coming.

Sorry Town. >.<

From now on, I'll take SaintKerrigan's LyLo tips to heart: In a 3P LyLo, the Townier person is the last scum.

You sure its not Ythill's tip? That's what I thought. :S

I can guarantee that is isn't from Ythill since me and him had a debate about that very thing, with me stating you never vote for the scummier overall person in LYLO.
HE CAME TO HIS SENSES, EVENTUALLY.



AND YAY FATE. <3
Also there were no actual needs for NUKES in LYLO, only the first vote being placed, after FATE lauched the NUKE, and someone voted not-FATE, he could vote, and cancel his NUKE at will. (Given the scenario that he NUKE's himself.)

I think this is the 4th game and last game of mine that I was in that ended recently, which I was also scum in, which I also won.

ALSO THIS IS THE SECOND AGM GAME WHERE VV COST THE TOWN THE WIN! ;D

Although I was sad at my own downtime in the middle of the game, when I was busy with moving and stuff, so I wasn't as active as needing to be.



My overall opinion of the game MECHANICS though, when compared to the source material, I already stated earlier: NEEDEDS MOAR NOOKS.
With fewer available power roles and/or more power roles that dealt with dishing out NUKES in some way (e.g. SUB/FAILSAFE) I think the game would have felt more chaotic and more towards echoing the source material, which I feel would have been a better and completely different experience.
STILL A GOOD GAME THOUGH.
Kinda sad that the 4 SCUMS were the only ones with the NUKES.
I was planning on getting a NUKE since before I ever even signed up for the game.