Mini 1039 Lost: Season One (Over)

[jasonT1981]

/confirm

[jasonT1981]

vpte:chesskid13

Backgammon was the game of choice in Lost

[jasonT1981]

vote:chesskid13

even

[jasonT1981]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: jasonT1981 spelled my name wrong.

Tell that to the mod who wrote the player list

2. chesskid13

[jasonT1981]

Yea, love the show. Have watched from its UK Premier right to the end.

[jasonT1981]

The only issue I have is that if the game is true to the show, name claiming could give away town power roles.

[jasonT1981]

Im interested in lynching scum based on in game evidence. not on policy due to other games in the past that have no bearing on this game.

[jasonT1981]

Im back fully from my weekend V/LA tomorrow. A day later than I thought I would be. Got a family birthday today and won't be home until the wee old hours of the morning. A catch up, should be up tomorrow afternoon UK time. Sorry folks.

[jasonT1981]

Checking in quickly, got a spare few minutes on the PC before I have to go back out once again.... alot of WIFOM and ability to be infuenced by scum.....especially with these two posts alone I have spotted.

Actually if VEZO is a daynamecop he'll be able to give us another name tomorrow with no worry of roleblocks. I mean

if he dies tonight well his flip confirms Dekes as scum

, or if he dies and flips lyncher it confirms dekes as Claire.

You do realize this could influence the scum kill.... and be used as a possible set up for a day 2 mislynch?

So basically if vezok survives the night, we decide on someone for him to use his ability on/someone volunteers, and if he gets it right, we trust him?

This again can directly be influenced by scum... If we decide the target for him in day 2 then scum can also have a say on who he can use the ability on and push it in a wrong direction. I think Vez should use this on who HE feels he should use it on, to avoid any potential scum interference. That way if he is actually telling the Truth about who he is... then its coming from his own suspicions, and not influenced by those not town alligned

[jasonT1981]

The problem Jason, is if his ability is that he always gets a wrong name (not that i see that happening cuz that's a shit role),

if he targets a maf and gets a town name that isn't in play, they aren't going to disagree with him

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that is a good point actually.

Right now in my thinking... it is a very risky gambit if he is not actually claiming who he says he is. The lyncher theory has been brought up.. im not entirely sure how that works... does the lyncher automatically win the game if said target is lynched?

Outside of a lyncher role, then there really is no reason for him to be lying... because if he is... then the next day the he will be hot under the microscope. I don't see much to gain from a scum Vez here.

my point on the day 2 target still stands though, it should be completly up to him to avoid scum interference or influence.

[jasonT1981]

I would have for certain. I haven't ever forgiven Ethan for nearly killing my favorite hobbit. For reals. Seriously though, it would be difficult for me to see how Ethan could be on the Losties side at all. He stands out as being the only definitive villain from S1.

This actually made me think... Ethan was 'undercover' for the others in S1 pretending to be a crash survivor who was really working for the others who were the 'bad guys' of season 1.


Vez, as day cop, did you get just a name, or did you get an actual guilty? I was reading the introduction and seen this

24)

Setup Design:

You can

try

to outguess the mod, but it's probably pointless.

Flavor of the show has nothing to do with the flavor of the game,

aside from the characters/mechanics seen in the game (they will match up with S1, but not S2-S6).

Im not sure if this means that just because person X is bad in show makes him bad in game or not.... Ive played a game were Ben Linus actually was the town doctor.

[jasonT1981]

Wait, you would support a lyncher getting his win cause?... in my experience with lynchers and it is limited to my admission... A lyncher is never set out to lynch an anti-town role. That would mean willingly supporting a lynch of a town role??? thats not very pro town.

It is actually something scum might suggest to get rid of a town member? a lyncher is usually an anti town role. I don't like helping a lyncher win the game with a lynch of someone who could be town.

major FOS: Faraseradayaphim

Unless you can show me where a lyncher has set out to lynch an anti-town role in a game, this could well turn into a vote.

[jasonT1981]

If he wants to win I'll help him, if he keeps up this charade he'll end up losing what could be an easy game.

And if he really is a lyncher, lynching a town role you would support that? I don't see a lyncher achieving his win condition by lynching scum... as that is all our win conditions (except those who are scum) I support lynch on scummy people.. not to help a hypo lyncher win.

[jasonT1981]

oh wow... i still have my RVS vote on lol

unvote

[jasonT1981]

Ok,I actualyl had never seen a lyncher with a scum target....I beleive the one time I was lyncher my target was a protown role. I knew the persons name and role before hand as I recall. I played with a lyncher in another game not so long ago, and it was also a pro-town role the lyncher had to lynch

[jasonT1981]

1. You assume they have fake claims. If they did, this would be the first game that i have been in that scum were given fake claims aside from just suggesting that they claim Spartacus.


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Actually, BC it is not..... you played in GB Mafia, though replacing out. Scum were given fake claims. I'm not sure if you kept up with the game after you left though or not.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 23&t=14705

[jasonT1981]

In other news, jenniwren avoided the whole iussue of Dekes/Vezok apart from the initial claim. Who's scum Jenni? Your last few posts have been talking about nothing game related.

I noticed that too, It seemed like inane chatter about the show in the hopes of looking like he was blending in all while doing very little.

[jasonT1981]

Ah fair enough. I kinda figured you didn't keep up given your comment.

[jasonT1981]

If Dekes gets killed I lose. But the cool thing is I don't get thrown out of the game.

So if you won''t at least try to help me win I will do unpleasent things

. I claimed not because Fara asked me but because I had no way of forcing the dekes lynch. Claire could still be scum through.

I don't like this... threatening the town to help you with your win condition? Sorry, I don't care much for helping a lyncher win the game, I care about lynching scum and winning the game. Have you any intentions of helping town?

[jasonT1981]

Because it is not it towns interests to help 3rd party. It is in towns interest to lynch scum, and helping you win, could mean the lynch of a possible town member. You see the problem? What do you mean by you will do unpleasent things? Is this a threat towards the town? if so, its not helping your case.

[jasonT1981]

Vote farasera

I won't change my vote.
He is either scum or Jack.

*Sigh* Any actual reasons for your 'suspicions' and are you going to answer my question?

[jasonT1981]

Yes.
He devised a plan to make me claim to be sure I am not a Pr.He wanted to appear pro town. He is a very smart scum.

Well, it worked did it not and got you to confess your real role?

[jasonT1981]

Vezo, if Dekes gets lynched but you're already dead, do you still win?

As far as I know, he only wins as long as he is alive. If he is dead, he cant furfil his condition.

Anyway, we should maybe move away from Vez and start to look for actual scum instead of chasing lynchers. I quite like jenniwren for scum right now, Like I said earlier his interactions so far have been almost like he is trying to add nothing, while looking like he is with the lost character talk. I guess you could also see that as slight rolefishing.

vote:jenniwren

Maybe some pressure will hep him give us content

[jasonT1981]

Just with the talk about characters really, it could be fan-girlish i suppose.

[jasonT1981]

It's barning.
Anyway I will get to lurking.
I wonder what happens if I replace out?

I doubt anyone cares.

[jasonT1981]

even if that means a possible mislynch on someone who could be town? Look, your exposed.... you cant furfil your win condition, accept it.

[jasonT1981]

Look, I really don't care if I am your bad side or not. I will not help you achieve your win condition without solid proof Dekes is scum. Until that time I will not support a lynch on someone who could be town just so you can win.

[jasonT1981]

Already told the Mod, but Just a heads up, I am taking a short V/LA... trying to get back into college on a work placement course. Should be back by tomorrow evening. Just have a lot of paperwork and stuff to get sorted out as well as finding a work placement to go along with my course subject..

[jasonT1981]

Just checking in, had a hectic week trying to get things sorted. Finding a work placement is hell. Especially in such a small area. going to

unvote

main reason of my vote was to get Jenni talking more, I thought maybe some pressure would do that. Going to get caught up by tomorrow evening, sorry... just been bloody busy and am behind in all my games this week

[jasonT1981]

@jason

– Why did you FOS FSHydra and then not vote him when you two posts later realize you still had a RVS vote? Unvoting while not committing to your Top suspect troubles me.

Good question... I FOSed him and said he needs to show me where a lyncher has had a lynch target of an anti town role because I was suspicious of someone who would support a lyncher getting his game win condition as I had never seen a lyncher with an anti-town target ... he did and therefor I did not turn the FOS into a vote.

Even if by some chance he is a lyncher, he has openly expressed multiple times his intent to get in our way. If he is a lyncher, and given his intent on playing anti-town if he doesn't get his way, the scum will most likely keep him alive. In the end it will be up to us to deal with him anyway. Until I find a scummier person, I say now rather than later.

Vote: Vezok

not really a fan of lynching lynchers, its a waste of a opertunity to get scum. After scum gets taken out, then deal with 3rd party roles. Chesskid covers this pretty well in the next post I see. Also adding alot of WIFOM and night kill speculation that I really do not like.

FOS: Ademisk

Assuming there is a vig and that he decides to 'waste' his shot on Vezok. You seem sure there is a vig. Why is that?

hmmm, if a Vig would not waste a bullet on a lyncher.. why would town waste a lynch on said role? you are right though, CK does seem slightly sure of a lyncher. I really don't like this... its alright for town to waste time lynching a lyncher which is counter productive to the win condition but a waste of a kill for a vig?

Unless his win-con ends the game and we choose to lynch Dekes, there's no harm to the town in letting him live. That means I'd rather a vig target someone who really could hurt the town like a mafia or SK.

The way I see it, he's not mafia, which means that he counts against their win condition. That gives the scum an incentive to kill him, so I'd rather let them do it.

Again, not a fan of night kill speculation.... and WIFOM

FOS: HH

I am not sure if it ends the game... from what I recall the game goes on minus the lyncher who wins.... as he has achieved his win condition, town and scum can still play on to try and achieve their win conditions.

Let's lynch scum. bc is not scum.
Choose anoyther target.

how can you be sure?

Unvote
Vote: Jenni

nothing game related has come out of you, really.

PoE tells me Jenni, Jason and Ademisk,

PoE on day 1.. really? what leads you to this conclusion, and how has everyone else been eliminated from being potential scum?

Guys, we are not lynching BC.
He is a VERY bad lynch.

Look somewhere else.

care to explain why though? this is the 2nd time you have made declerations and not given any real reasoning to them.

I'm not sure if this is a Vezok's post 254 parody or if you really mean this, but why is he a bad lynch?

How about "I have inside information that doesn't include me being a fake-rolecop/lyncher that makes me know he's a bad lynch for the town?"

Im skeptical about this softclaim... noted for later, because if BC does at some point flip scum.... I will remember this.

Dont like this post here, will link but you focus the entire post on others, without mentioning HH yet then vote him with no real reasons behind it. at least not in this post.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p2491543

OK, actually...I am wrong I looked at MoI in ISO and seen he made a few posts before hand on HH making an interesting case on him.


Dram probably saved himself from a vote with his softclaim regarding BC's role, and that also for now takes a BC lynch out of the question...

I am going to look at HH and Ademisk tomorrow hopefully in ISO and see if I can see anything I don't like in their posts, sorry this is a brief catch up on a quick read from where I last posted as it is now after midnight here. but right now Ademisk and HH seem quite scummy to me.

Again, sorry for not being around for the past few days. I have been trying to get things sorted with a work placement in photography, and it is not an easy thign to find at the minute. I'm hoping the worst part is behind me, I applied to a few places after lots of research so I hopefully have a bit more time now for Mafia again.

[jasonT1981]

PoE - Process of elimination I believe it means

[jasonT1981]

OK, as promised I am looking at HH in ISO, sorry promised it yesterday but got caught up in other things.

Post 1

votes Fara

Post 2

declares Fara scum however in

post 3

unvotes his declared scum and votes Dekes after the 'claim' of day cop.

Post 6

says he is unhappy with Vez not posting full flavor but would still be happy lynching dekes despite not being happy with the claim?? what?

post 9

I notice he has also said about a vig wasting a bullet on the lyncher.... I didnt notice this my first time

post 11

with more vig speculation

post 13

questions Dram about the BC wagon..

Conclusion

not entirely happy with his post 3 where he will support a lynch despite not being happy with the claim. Also, missed first time around the post about wasting bullet from vig... Ademisk also mentions this... link?

And now, as promised also Ademisk in ISO

Does not really do anything until

post 4

questions Fara on Policy lynch on Vez

Post 5

follows up questioning with a FOS

post 6

continues to question Fara but still does not put down a vote
After post 6 however he seems to trail off Fara

Post 10

votes A outted non scum role IE Lyncher....yet starts to focus on BC

post 11-14

Vig specualtion

post 15

admits that it looks like he is PR hunting to HH...Interesting exchange I feel and contiunues to push Vez lynch

Post 16

is more PR hunting by tryign to get info from Dram

Post 17

more vig talk

Conclusion

... a link between he and HH for sure. Especially both not really wanting a vig to 'waste' bullets on a non scum role but seem happyish to waste a town lynch on this person. Adamisk switches from Fara very quickly despite pushing him a lot early on.... that I don't like and switches focus to BC but keeps his vote on a lyncher instead of who he thinks scum in BC. Add that to the PR hunting instead of scum hunting I am not happy with his play.

vote:Ademisk

[jasonT1981]

HH.... the reason I can not know for sure, even though I was in the role only once... was because I was lynched before I could achieve my win condition. It was either day 1 or day 2.. cant remember off hand. I never achieved my win condition, so I can not say for sure what happens.

[jasonT1981]

V/LA until Monday, sorry but its my Birthday this weekend and won't be about

[jasonT1981]

Wait... why jason Huck. Hasn't he been absent for a large percent of this day? Are you suggesting its lurker scum?

You do realize I have the 4th highest post count in the game right now only topped by

Chesskid 61
Fara/Fara Hydra 41
Vez 40....

I hardly call that lurker scum. I took V/LA to sort out college and this weekend for my birthday. That is hardly Lurkerscum.

[jasonT1981]

hmmmm, Dram... you would have a great point. But this game based solely on Season 1... Michael did not do anything bad until the very end of season 2, of which he was missing for a great deal of if I recall.

There do seem to be a lot of links in this game, but that can be expected as quite a lot of people in Lost ended up being linked to each other... some knowing, some unknowing. I would expect at least one of the pairings to be scum... or at least one half of the pairing to be scum. Its also very clear who Jenni is now... at least to those who followed the show.

with the claim, I am going to

unvote

and

vote: HackerHusk

I had my suspicions on both he and Adem, with the claim.... I feel my vote is better on HH

[jasonT1981]

I can more or less see Michael as being more third party rather than town considering his "win condition" in the show is finding his son. =/

Another 3rd party on top of Lyncher?

[jasonT1981]

Sigh.....

I am Jack Shephard, A man of science... the cowboy with daddy issues and Doctor of the group of Oceanic survivors from the fuselage section of the plane... my vow is to do no harm, and ith that, each night I protect someone from the 48, not including myself that survived the crash and are on the beach.

I do find it funny, there has been little evedience brought against me...

I am lurking yet I am, or was (have not checked lately) the 4th highest poster in the game..... how does that work
I was defencive... No, I simply corrected the lurking scum accusation with simple fact

In fact CK, these are your only real mentions of me

VOTE: JasonT1981

2 days till deadline, and he got very defensive after someone accused him, + I agree with the lurking comments.

Jason wagon please.

It's ~ 33 hours to the deadline, btw guys.
Jason is one of the scumiest of the non-protected people today, and regardless of how he flips, we have a LOT of information from today that we can use tomorrow to def get scum.

So yea... apart from the 'im lurking' which I was not.... I had openly stated V/LA due to getting college/work placement sorted... and god forbid, taking the weekend away from Mafia to enjoy my birthday...you have yet to actually make ANY case on me... infact neither has Dekes who also suspects me just agreeing 'i need looked at closer'.. Infact MOI is the only one to have actually made any reasons to suspect me...

But yes, I am Jack Shephard. Doctor.

[jasonT1981]

LOL...Rec, you made a mistake

HackerHuck (3): MagnaofIllusion, AGar, jenniwren
A
HackerHuck (3): jasonT1981, Faraseradayaphim, chesskid3

Not voting (0):

12 alive, 7 to lynch. Deadline is 9/14 at 6:00PM.

each night I protect someone from the 48, not including myself that survived the crash and are on the beach.

^ this seems to indicate the survivors are the scum if it's in jason's PM btw.

this was a thought I had with the role PM also, however with the Ethan claim.... I don't think it is as simple as that now. Ethan was on the beach and 'pretending' to be a survivor everyone thought he was a survivor also

so, without the claim, I could have theorotically protected Ethan not knowing he was not a survivor of the plane crash, who was one of the losties on the beach.

[jasonT1981]

he had reached 7.... Rec posted HH twice, with 3 votes on each from different people as I pointed out. But yea, this was the count

HackerHuck (3): MagnaofIllusion, AGar, jenniwren
Ademisk (4): vezokpiraka, Dekes, dramonic, BloodCovenent
jasonT1981 (1): HackerHuck
AGar (1): Ademisk
HackerHuck (3): jasonT1981, Faraseradayaphim, chesskid3

Not voting (0):

12 alive, 7 to lynch. Deadline is 9/14 at 6:00PM.

It was the hammer I believe. Chess was the proper hammerer going by the vote count

[jasonT1981]

I missed it Jason, will read for it in a sec.
Also I was alraedy voting him, so I wasn't a hammer. It was a fake hammer :/

Oh, HAH So you where! I stand fully corrected!

[jasonT1981]

there are 14 main characters, however in the innitial crash there were 48 that survived and were on the Island in season 1... I am guessing it was nothing more than flavor to my role.

[jasonT1981]

good game... though uncountered Jack - Doc claim and 2 vigs shoot me Damn.

Ah well, was fun to read.