Mafia 119: MURDER AT HOTEL DEATH(GAME OVER)

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VOTE: CKD Wagon nao people.

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unvote; vote: Jack

Why are you so interested in finding who, if anyone, has a post restriction?

What the hell man? What do you find suspicious about, I can't imagine.

If I'm correct (and someone else will tell me if I'm not) but scum rarely have post restrictions, and VT's rarely have post restrictions... which means it would go without saying that a town power role would have a post restriction. You may as well be asking "who's the cop" or something based on that..

I just don't like how you seem to be trying to find out, almost desperately, who has a post restriction. I'm even considering that you have a role that means you need to find whoever has the post restriction and get them lynched or kill them or whatever, which makes me more concerned as it would mean you're not scum either, but a third party with a weird win condition, claiming to be unable to spot it in the hopes the town would help you, despite the fact a post restriction of some kind shouldn't be important for us to find.

Basically it's just rubbing me up the wrong way something chronic, and I believe there's a deeper reasoning for it.

People can have post restricts without having a power role. Also the point doesn't matter too much. There are already two bleedingly obvious swings to town so far, jack being one of them.

Oh and UNVOTE: CKD Will pick a random vote who isn't town in a sec.

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Vibe based on my interpretation or what he means by his posts. Not going to share more on that yet. It is still incredibly early so imma just leave that for now. Yep a bandwagon would help town so I'm not gonna go and try to derail it. On that not my sec is up so competing bandwagon attack. VOTE: Looker

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OK. Jack is town because he had the right reaction to my vote. That emoticon was the perfect response and the way I would expect any townie to act. CKD is town because scum don't do what he did unless they are going to claim miller. I have a feeling I know what his role is.

My vote went on Looker because that is the biggest non CKD wagon. Simple.

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I assumed it would be a universal feeling. Obviously not, hence why I now have provided simple reasoning.

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Well that kind of reaction is kinda obv town. This isn't a newbie game peeps.

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@ HD: It was for the purpose of seeing reactions either a scumbag trying to get opportunistic or a townie doing something along the vein of what actually happened.

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Came in late and didn't realise that RV had pretty much finished. I shoule Watch out more I guess.

Dude, seriously?

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Welcome to the big leagues then. Comment on game thus far nao please.

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Because is an unadultered uneasyness about a vote on a highly likely town. A scum player wouldn't make this play in normal circumstances. Add to that the time of the game. Scum really don't like taking risks this early usually and are thereofore unlikely to make any plays to put themselves out of neutral.

So all that amounts to scum wouldn't call my vote out like he did. Also since when is wishy washy a scumtell outside of near deadline?

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What if we are?

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Jack are you some sort of search for such-and-such player role? Or a lyncher with an unknown target?

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Oh wait, forgot about that.

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I also reckon that CKD should get his free time. and claim at the end of the day. He isn't getting lynched at this stage so what is the rush?

@ Pom: I get called Espy all the time so sure you can. Also Karma was a badly played game by me. I was noob throught the whole start of that.

No quicklynch is going to be happening here. You guys need 10 to lynch me. Not going to happen too soon I hope.

Anhy new questions for me?

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Because for some reason we are the only smart people in the town at the moment.

Town hunting. Great thing to do in a large game as confirmed towns are really powerful when you are looking at interactions later on that revolve around people that are still alive. (i.e. When you have no flip info on the person.)

Up until I get reason to believe he isn't town.

He isn't. But every rvs wagon needs a random counter wagon.

Because the RVS is about placing votes to get reactions. If you play catious from the start the game can get stagnant quickly.

Only buddying if one of us is scum.

Not quite sure. I would say there is one on my wagon and the rest are still random or no votes and are just riding this out for now. I have already said that scum don't like taking risks early, at least they usually don't.

More heavy with sarcasm than when a teenager talks with their parents.

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Actually UNVOTE: Looker

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iso 3

He is wishy washy.
Vote
He isn't going to by quick lynched.
He is consistent with his bad town meta.

Considering that was tipping point vote, I'm not happy about it. It is opportunistic and doesn't even give a real reason. A wagon flop if I ever saw one.

VOTE: Pom

That is the scum that is most likely on my wagon.

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@ Vollkan: Where did Pom say she agreed with your reason for voting me?

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At HD: Its called reaction rousing.

CKD you shouldn't have claimed.

UNVOTE: Pom

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One of my points was proven wrong. I therefore feel I should have retracted my vote and so I did.

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Because there was no need for you to claim it.

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How interesting. I have CKD's role as well, but with Pomegranate.

okay...

I'm tempted to believe both of these sets of claims so far. But. I would also hazard a guess that one side of each is mafia else it is looking like massclaim would break the game. I (think I) know seraphim better than that.

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Yeah I don't think Pom and I are scum together. You could argue bussing but tipping point is a stupid vote to bus on. I reckon that the scum there is either zwet or TNM if your theory on the alignment of the neighbour pairs is correct.

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VOTE: zwet In his claim post just before he seemed as if he was flopping onto the townieness of CKDs claim. I don't like that. Also that last post just now doesn't sit with me very well either.

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Sorry, question?

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I didn't feel like I needed to comment.

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What is the point of the nameclaim? You guys have said you want the name for flip puposes. That kinda only applies if we are lynching one and thus getting the flip.

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I would leave them. Let them keep their names hidden. We know their roles and we don't want to give potential fuel to scum with more unneccessary claiming.

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Trust Vezok to throw a spanner in the works.

Now this is why I would prefer to lynch zwet. Because the second pair could be running a gambit.

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Vezok is one of the hardest people to read. But from my (two? I think. I lose track.) game(s) with Vezok this is fairly town.

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I agree that we should lynch one of the meighbours and that it should be from the second pair. But I think it should be zwet other than Pom. It was unneccessary for him to claim. He could be jumping on to the townieness in which case both are scum or he claimed because he is the scum member of the pair when the town half wouldn't claim in that position unless they were stupid. I hardly think zwet is stupid (yet) and so I think he would be better to lynch than Pom.

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How so?

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I'm saying that they COULD be running a gambit and they COULD just be neighbours. But either way zwet is a better lynch infowise for the reasons I stated.

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Both. It hardly matters. Either wat zwet is the best lynch.

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lol. Actual post will be coming tomorrow. I'm both busy and tired.

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It doesn't matter what I do

Seriously only getting on to zwet now?

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Not sure. but he isn't pro-town at the moment. If there is a scum neighbour he is it.

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I have a game that has been very tense and has needed my undivided attention. It is night in that one now so i can catch up on my other games. Expect a post withing the day.

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@Looker: Yes

Someone ask me something simple about the game please.

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I like lookers play. It is pro town, scummy or not.

I think zwet over CKD because zwet felt the need to claim AFTER he could have easily flown under the radar. Instead he goes and leechs of the townie vibes surrounding the earlier claim.

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@ HD: Not until you pointed it out. I can see it now without having to go back and actually see when the softclaim was outed.

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Flying under the radar means null in this sense.

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zwet. It makes no sense and is unbalanced unless there is a big strong scum.

I will make a new vote if I can see a votecount first.

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So less than two days.

I would rather zwet but

UNVOTE: zwet
VOTE: Nero

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k

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it was a response to the post that said WE HAVE JUST OVER A DAY TO DEADLINE.

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I haven't looked at him. No Lynchs are worse.

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Lynching Scum > No Lynch
Mislynch which brings a flip and connections out > No lynch
Not offing myself whom I know to be town > No Lynch

yay no matter what the outcome lynching NC is better. =)

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? Probs wont be back until after day is over, I'm going to bed now. Clarify for day 2 please.