Mini 1049 - Hide and Seek Mafia - FINAL Kablooie!

[Katsuki]

I CAUGHT ELLI IN MY ROOM LAST NIGHT!

What a creeper.

[Katsuki]

[Katsuki]

Oh, anyone want to know some interesting misc. info?

Elli likes calling me Katsu. Katsu is japanese for "explode" or "blow up" I think.

[Katsuki]

Also means explode/boom.

[Katsuki]

I don't know jap.

Vote: Elli

FOR LIKING TO BLOW THINGS UP MUCH TOO MUCH.

[Katsuki]

@Pom: The least you could do is spell my name correctly.

[Katsuki]

^Don't even bother reading elli's question?

Vezok is obviously failing to read even a 3 page game...

[Katsuki]

EBWOP: responding to elli's question.

[Katsuki]

Unvote, Vote Vezo

[Katsuki]

^I think we haz scum.

[Katsuki]

Hi, you're not zwet.

Vezok first, tans after.

[Katsuki]

tans is not town. But that is too easy.

[Katsuki]

TANS IS MORE DEFINATELY NOT TOWN.

Trust me on that one...

and quicklynch already?

[Katsuki]

Ok, then.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Katsu

For being the first person to ignore my demand for a top-three scumlist.
Afraid you will out your buddies? You should be.

My post was in response to yours.

[Katsuki]

Oh, forgot.

Tans
Camn
Vezok

Tans is not playing with a town meta. He is playing with a zwet meta. I will not comment on differences from my other game with him and this game for obvious reasons.
Camn: Gut just screams that camn is just trapping us in a town-illusion.
Vezok: Never played with before. Not sure if scummy or just VI.


p.s. I started typing this around 10, but went afk and forgot about post.

p-edit: CAMN: WENT AFK T^T

[Katsuki]

erm, 10pm forum board time it seems. 110mins after my last post anyways.

[Katsuki]

No, I am not saying you are "too town to be town" camn.

Vote: Mongoose

Would you like to tell me where I ever mentioned quick-lynching? Because, ya know, I NEVER DID.

[Katsuki]

Not really. You did not read mongoose post on me huh. Lemme sum it up for ya, he made up stuff to jump on my wagon.

[Katsuki]

Nothing new to add.

[Katsuki]

@Mongoose: I don't think you bothered reading your own case on me. Nor did you read my response to your accusation.

We have scum accusations flying between TBM and camn. /cupcake break

This game requires more indepth analysis of which I lack the energy for as of this moment.

[Katsuki]

Vote: Vezo

Pressure vote. If vezo is scum though, tans probably is. His first statement on vezo (obv town one) was terrible. Same with you voting me for my suspects.

On another note, like camn, I also thought of hiding in vezo's room Then I said DGB's, but she didn't let me.

[Katsuki]

With

12 players

it's 7 to lynch, still!

That's something new.

***mod note: oops, 11 players!***

[Katsuki]

I am currently in someone elses room and have yet to read page 9. However, I do not agree with claiming anything related to our thought process in terms of hiding. Scum obviously missed last night, so I do not see why we should discuss hiding thoughts. Basically, nothing should be done to 1. Suggest where we will hide at night and 2. To direct people to lean towards hiding in specific rooms.

Erm, I may post later to clarify as to what I mean, but yeah. I do not like any discussion pertaining to "night choices" and increasing scum chances of hitting.

I just know that I didn't hide in vezok's room, and tried to hide in DGB's room but got kicked into some unknown room
_____________________________

Glad to see you guys have finally decided to post though. School starting and still not done moving in, but I will try and get something posted tonight.

[Katsuki]

Ok, so today was actually a holiday for me and I am too lazy to process much.

I really will get to commenting I hope, but TANS IS MY VOTE AFTER VEZOK. I think it was far_cry stating something about his current playstyle as an attempt to avoid being meta'd, but THIS IS NOT HIS TOWN META. HE IS PLAYING LIKE THAT TO AVOID GETTING VOTED FOR SIMPLY BEING "TOO ALOOF TO BE SCUM". Its actually a copy of what zwet did in my last game with tans. If anything, I'm wondering why jenn has yet to comment on that as well.

Aka, my gut is still screaming tans scum.

Furthermore, camn is definately not obvtown. I am not liking how she keeps trying to suggest herself being "obv". The hider comment made just now irked me further. TBH, as townie as camn may seem, she is quite high up on my scumdar. I see tans playing meta WIFOM.

/loves not being able to be targetted specifically for NKs

Oh, further commenting. Elli is not town meta. I would also have expected Elli to know that even if vezok claimed light sleeper, it would yield no info. Why? BECAUSE VEZOK OBVIOUSLY WASN'T IN HIS OWN ROOM LAST NIGHT SINCE NO ONE DIED WHEN HIS ROOM ASPLODED, AND ONLY SEES ANYTHING IF HE STAYED IN HIS OWN ROOM ANYWAYS.

As such I think we can eliminate vezok as light sleeper.

I THINK

. I need to read what happened end of last day, but I'd love an explanation about the quickhammer.

Pom is definately not posting enough. Then again, I dunno how much ground I got to say that about others. But regardless the activity for this game is slow.
___________

p.s. GUESS WHAT? EXAMPLE PM SUGGESTS 4 SCUM. I think I probably hit at least 2 in the pool of tans, camn, Elli and vezok.

Oh I'm just splatting down whatever comes to my mind, but jenn defending vezok is also curious. Maybe I didn't read properly, but an explanation is nice.

[Katsuki]

Asking about how to coordinate hiding definately does not fall into the "too townie to be town" department.

[Katsuki]

I'm keeping my vote where it is - I don't buy Katsuki's claim that she tried to hide in DGB's room so DGB randomly assigned a room to Katsuki - I would think the mod would have either told KAtsuki to pick a PLAYERS room or defaulted Katsuki to stay in her own room.

... Do I even need to comment on this statement?

[Katsuki]

Lastly, my activity level tonight is because I managed to setup my internet... = =

[Katsuki]

Eh?

Either I am misreading a lot of stuff, or you need to explain to me better, since I am not really getting what you are saying.
Though, my personal sleepiness may be a factor.

Informed, organized town is definitely a threat. I guess easiest would be to explain, how talking about night actions would be in any way helpful in "organizing" the town.

p.s. Role PM for mafia says you and your buddies x, y, and z. 4 mafia in this setup would be quite extreme though I suppose. and how is this mountainous?

[Katsuki]

Katsu is town, guys. Just like I said.

Instead of calling me town, I'd love if you could answer my questions instead.

[Katsuki]

how talking about night actions would be in any way helpful in "organizing" the town.

[Katsuki]

I heard that vezo has flaked from the site. That true?

If so, lynch tans and not vezo please.

[Katsuki]

Didn't even know you were in this game...

[Katsuki]

OH HAI DERE.
I MAY CONSIDER LOOKING FOR IT
WHEN YOU START POSTING THAT IS.

SO ERM, PROBABLY NEVER.

[Katsuki]

YOU ARE FUNNY.
FURTHERMORE, YOU'RE ASKING FOR SOMEONE WHO FLAKED FROM THE SITE TO POST.

ELLI
VEZOK IS NOT THE ONLY THING HERE.
YOU CAN TALK ABOUT VEZO LATER.

[Katsuki]

ELLI
TANS IS SCUM
WHY CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT?

ALSO, VEZOK HAS FLAKED FROM SITE. HE IS ONLY STAYING FOR RECK'S GAME BECAUSE RECK BEGGED HIM TO.
NOT THAT THAT MATTERS ANYMORE IF VEZOK GOT HAMMERED.

CAMN, I QUOTED MY QUESTION ALL NICELY FOR YA. PLEASE DON'T BE A BUM AND ANSWER IT PLEASE.

Note: I never noticed that camn claimed where she hid. Interesting.
If vezok got hammered, I'm hiding under DGB's bed.

[Katsuki]

No, you did not answer what I asked in your 237.

I quoted it once already especially for you. I will not do so again.

[Katsuki]

I am silly and can't believe I forgot.

Unvote, Vote tans

Vezo isn't gonna be back to explain his actions. If MPR did in fact hammer, he'll be facing the same questions vezo was.

[Katsuki]

Oh hey, vezok was scum

I dunno about MPR, he seems to like quick-lynching in every game I'm in with him...

I do agree that he is high on my list, but note where tans voted when we were starting the vezok wagon.

Vote: Tans

p.s. I LOVE SCUM SUCCESS RATE IN TERMS OF BLOWING UP ROOMS Only thing that could be better would be if they started blowing themselves up.

[Katsuki]

Because he is scum. Simple as.

[Katsuki]

For more WIFOM, I too hid in camn's room last night :*

[Katsuki]

Yes.

Look at his comments at the beginning of D2. That, and combine it with his D1 play.

[Katsuki]

ELLI
IF YOU ARE TOWN
YOU WILL VOTE TANS.

You too pom.

[Katsuki]

NEITHER
I AM A CUPCAKE
TRUE STORY.

@Tans: OMGUS MORE?

P-EDIT: OFC YOU CAN'T HIDE IN THE MOD'S ROOM.

THERE WAS NO WAY I WAS CLAIMING WHO'S ROOM I HID IN N1.

[Katsuki]

Also this wagon built a little too quickly.

Tans is def scum at this point.

[Katsuki]

Considering it was 3 consecutive posts.

I got those 3 votes as I was going home from class. So, yeah, I am surprised.

Honestly, tans has done nothing, and accuses me of doing nothing? That is really funny.

[Katsuki]

ISO tans.

D1: Does what zwet did in another game we were in. Knowing tans better than most of you, I KNOW it was one of those actions that are done to draw a lot of attention to oneself, so that others will not pay attention to you/vote you.

Example from an entertaining source: If you're in a classroom, and someone's chair went skyrocketing upwards hence smashing said occupant into the ceiling, everyone would look. However, once done repetitively, it becomes a "oh, X is flying again". Dunno how to explain that.

Aside from acting like zwet/gandalf, all he did was call me scum.

D2: Calls vezo town, me scum.

D3: First MPR, then jumps to me after I keep pushing for his lynch.


Really, I am already at the point where all I want to say is "iso tans". Because he is so obvscum that it hurts.

Regarding my comments to start the say, I said he was scum, simple as, because I've said so much prior to begin with, that there was really not much I could add.

[Katsuki]

Also, far_cry, how has tans done a good job of defending himself against me when, he hasn't explained anything that I've said this whole game?

[Katsuki]

I DID NOT SAY MPR META IS QUICK HAMMERING

EVER CONSIDER THAT, WHILE THIS GAME WAS IN NIGHT, THAT MPR MAYBE HAS DONE OTHER STUFF THAT MAKES ME QUESTION WHETHER HIS HAMMER WAS INDEED SCUM HAMMER?

Also, I love your comments on like the first bunch of posts. And the misrep on stuff like my reaction to camn asking for suspects/my afk in middle of typing post (your one about me talking about board posting), some of the elli stuff, and the mongoose vote.

FURTHERMORE, AT LEAST MY ISO HAS STUFF, UNLIKE YOURS. I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN ANALYZING, WHICH I CAN SAY IS LIGHTYEARS MORE THAN YOU HAVE DONE.
WHICH GOES BACK TO WHAT I SAID EARLIER, YOU SAY THAT I'VE DONE NOTHING AND AM SKATING BY AS SCUM, YET COMPARE MY D2, TO YOURS.

[Katsuki]

a) Camn, you have YET to tell me how claiming night actions help in organizing town, DESPITE me chasing you for it throughout the entirety of D2 (or starting from when you asked it).
As to whether I am truthful about where I hid, I will keep to myself. Hence, WIFOM.

b) Already explained.

[Katsuki]

Oh, and tans, you know VERY well that caps is part of my meta. Where as, acting like zwet, is not part of yours.

[Katsuki]

I do not know why.
To me, it is not the town blowing up the rooms.

Hence, spouting random stuff and keeping scum guessing where I may hide imo is the best option.

Maybe if camn had explained the question I asked her like a week ago, I may not be saying what I am saying now.

OH, AND DON'T GIVE ME A "LOOK AT MY POST BEFORE", BECAUSE IT SAYS NOTHING TO ME. - TO CAMN

[Katsuki]

WELL, IT'D BE NICE IF SOMEONE EXPLAINED THAT TO ME TO BEGIN WITH NOW WOULDN'T IT.

@TANS: I AM SAYING THAT, WITH MPR, TO ME, HIS HAMMERING WAS NOT QUITE AS STRONG OF A SCUMTELL AS, SAY, YOUR PLAY.


ALSO, IF YOU GUYS ARE VOTING ME BASED ON THE FACT THAT I AM A LIAR (EG. DGB ROOM HIDING, WHICH, HONESTLY, IS RIDIC), THEN SOMEONE LYNCH TANS, THEN CAMN FOR ME.

This is all. I will look at this game tomorrow to see if anythings happened.

[Katsuki]

I have tried to hide in DGB's room both night, only to be rejected.

Everything else, probably.

[Katsuki]

I have tried to hide in DGB's room both night, only to be rejected.

Everything else, probably.

And lying is pro-town because...?

BECAUSE, WHEN YOU GUYS FELT IT WAS FUN TO NOT EXPLAIN TO ME ABOUT THE HIDING THING DESPITE ME ASKING AGAIN AND AGAIN, THAT LYING WOULD, OFC, BE PRO-TOWN TO CREATE SCUM WIFOM. THE FACT THAT THEY'VE YET TO HIT ANYONE MEANS THAT THEY OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE HIDING.

@Farcry: He is obvscum in my eyes due to his play. I have seen his town-play before. It was far far different. Not to mention the stuff he did D1. I dunno, I said why, but if I didn't explain it clearly, just ask.

P-EDIT: FAR_CRY, HE JUST USED CAPS AS AN ARGUMENT FFS. CAPS =/= DEFENSIVENESS.

[Katsuki]

Erm

I've seen other games you're in.

I also happened to see your slippery self in SS mafia.

P-EDIT: INTERESTING HOW YOU'RE TALKING FOR MPR. HRMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[Katsuki]

I love the camn flipflopping. First me obvtown, now me scum, to somewhere in between.

[Katsuki]

Inconsistent? Are you sure you're even bothering to read this fucking thread far_cry?

And camn, well, is interesting.

[Katsuki]

Elli went from middle to scum.

You went from one end of the spectrum to the other.

@Tans: I believe that over multiple nights, scum can probably guess where someone might hide given their habits.

I wouldn't know, but then, answer me this, how would we claim then help?

You said not claiming doesnt help, but I still do not see how everyone claiming helps.

Also, I wonder if I've become a drip? :O

[Katsuki]

Katsu, could you or could you not decide where you were going post-DGB hide choice sent in and being declined.

I generally sent 2 requests in to DGB at the same time. She usually ignored my first one.

[Katsuki]

Tans is obv scum in my eyes
Jenn I am not sure. Would say either tans or jenn is scum.
I really am still not sure about camn. Head says town, gut says scum.
Elli is prob town.
Far_cry, maybe town.
Pom needs to post more
TBM, kind of same as pom.


I am busy today.

[Katsuki]

Or maybe, someone forgot to post here because they were busy making catchup posts in other games as well. Plus, Tuesday was yesterday...

Weak case is weak case, Tans is still scum.

I will sleep soundly knowing that.

[Katsuki]

Katsuki has been very busy as of late.

Tans posted that "thursday" thing around 4am his time. I hadn't posted for a day. Point being?
For the record, I had forgotten about this though yesterday. Now kindly take off those tunnel goggles of yours camn.

I also do not post non-fluff while in class. Hence, the lack of posts here.

[Katsuki]

Combination of both. Class + tiredness led to me forgetting about this.

I am not fond of doing this, but since tans is using this against me (28 posts since blah blah but none in here), I posted in a ton of my games regarding class --> lack of post.

Life is hectic and busy.

[Katsuki]

NO POSTING TONIGHT

ALCOHOL AND MAFIA DO NOT MIX.

ELLI IS PROB NOT SCUM.

[Katsuki]

YOU';RE A RETARD

AND ARE SCUM

STFU.

HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL ALIVE ANYWAYSS.

[Katsuki]

Drunk posting and trying to clear your scum partner?

THIS IS YOUR DERP STATEMENT.

[Katsuki]

Unless, the scum are already on the wagon. Which they most probably are.

This is not a townie driven wagon.

[Katsuki]

Working on mini-analysis, dunno when it will be complete. Gotta leave for airport.

[Katsuki]

That's where the analysis comes in now doesn't it. It's still being worked on.

p.s. Remaining scum is most likely you and jenn.

Also, my righteous town fury already came and gone. At this point, I wouldn't mind my lynch, as I need to free up a mini spot. However, that has to wait until AFTER I post my stuff and have my say.

[Katsuki]

Sigh

I doubt I will have much time this weekend to complete my analysis (or, comment on it the way I want).

Long story short, go look at votes. Camn seems to have no problems jumping on every wagon present. She's been on every major wagon thus far this game. (Including original katsuki wagon D1 before it shifted to mongoose).

Before now, I hadn't actually noticed that. Her voting pattern worries me greatly. (and now she is willing to go for far_cry wagon).

If I am not wrong, most people think that camn is town. Maybe my gut is just crazy

[Katsuki]

Sigh

I doubt I will have much time this weekend to complete my analysis (or, comment on it the way I want).

Long story short, go look at votes. Camn seems to have no problems jumping on every wagon present. She's been on every major wagon thus far this game. (Including original katsuki wagon D1 before it shifted to mongoose).

Before now, I hadn't actually noticed that. Her voting pattern worries me greatly. (and now she is willing to go for far_cry wagon).

If I am not wrong, most people think that camn is town. Maybe my gut is just crazy

KATSU
We've just been through ALPHABET.
WHAT"S WRONG WITH BEING ON EVERY WAGON.

I've been having so many stomachaches throughout this game.

I really think tans is scum, but there can only be 3 scum (most probably). Jenni is prob scum too.

[Katsuki]

^Nah.

*points to sig*

[Katsuki]

nopoint, you took that post of mine entirely out of context... I am in class now, but go look at the entirety of the conversation, not just one post...

Since god knows when I'll post next, I am a

Town Heavy Sleeper

. No surprise I haven't bothered staying in my room.

[Katsuki]

nopoint is probably town.

I would prefer either a camn lynch or a tans lynch, but if my lynch will clear up a lot of confusion then I am not against my lynch.

[Katsuki]

Its pretty evident where I hid.

FTR, I hid in elli's room. Both night. We had crazy parties there.


ALSO, NO I WILL NOT SELF VOTE. YOU CAN HOPE YOUR SCUM ASS OVER MY DEAD BODY THAT I AM SELF-VOTING.

[Katsuki]

Nice to see someone else went and analyzed VCs, and arrived at the same conclusion that I did (minus the giant analysis post).

Unvote, Vote Jenniwen

and here are the vote counts. I never got around to doing the analysis.

YOUR THIRD VOTECOUNT was under the carpet!

Katsuki

(4): Pomegranate, camn,

vezokpiraka

,

mongoose

mongoose

(4): jenniwren, Budja, tanstalas,

Katsuki

MehPlusRawr (2): MehPlusRawr, TheButtonmen
camn (1): , Domino

vezokpiraka

(1): Ellibereth

With 12 players it's 7 to lynch!
DEADLINE Sunday September 26th @9:00 EST

YOUR FOURTH VOTECOUNT was behind a BLOOD STAIN!!!

Katsuki

(1):

mongoose

mongoose

(7): jenniwren, Budja, tanstalas,

Katsuki

, camn, Ellibereth,

vezokpiraka

MehPlusRawr (1): TheButtonmen
camn (1): Domino

vezokpiraka

(1): MehPlusRawr,

I have been informed that vezok is flaking, a replacement will be sought.

YOUR SEVENTH VOTECOUNT is in the freezer.

vezokpiraka

(6): camn, The Buttonmen, Pomegranate,

Katsuki

, Far_Cry, MehPlusRawr

Katsuki

(1): tanstalas

With 11 players it's 6 to lynch...

YOUR NINTH VOTECOUNT was scrunched up in the cookie jar!

Katsuki

(4): tanstalas, Pomegranate, camn, jenniwren
tanstalas (1):

Katsuki

Far_Cry (1): The Buttonmen

With 10 players, it's 6 to lynch...

[Katsuki]

Good news: I got my comp back
Bad news: They fucked up with installing everything, so I gotta take it back tomorrow... and no idea why resolution is so screwed up but it hurts my eyes.

[Katsuki]

Oh that reminds me

If I get lynched while I'm gone, someone take a DEEP HARD LOOK at jenn for me, and to a lesser extent, camn.

I'm glad spy realizes what he replaced into too

[Katsuki]

Whoa, so replacements have very skewed reads.

I agree with MBF, and am against nopoint lynch.

My VC analysis, which lacked the analysis part that I never got an opportunity to write up, was meant to show how jenni was quite the happy wagon hopper D1. I guess you can say that I'm going partly by meta, but that does not seem like town-jenni to me at all.

@Icerinct: I only ever lied about my hiding place, coming out of N1, and coming out of N2. I already explained why I thought that was a town thing to do at the time. I hope that is not a major part of your reasoning for me=scum, because if it is, then I have major objections to that.

[Katsuki]

They are the tiny, perfect strokes of scum against the broad brushes.

Kat hasn't done anything. There's a lot of words, but (and I swear PLEASE GOD dont make me go through and get the diagrams) they're designed specifically NOT to say anything. Everything is qualified and not in the "I'm not sure what I actually think" but in the "I have to leave these bridges open".

Of course, that aside, the combination of factors listed before would be an instant death warrant anywho so.

I'd love examples of those moments, since whaddya know, that sounds JUST LIKE MY META IN EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN GAME.

[Katsuki]

I'd still love examples, spy.

[Katsuki]

But then, that would be mostly every post that I've ever made on MS.

Specifics are much better.

[Katsuki]

Curiosity killed the cat.

[Katsuki]

My scum game =/= incompetence, thanks.

[Katsuki]

Hm. Now that you mention it, you are perfectly aware of my meta. And conversely, of my scum meta. As such, you might quite possibly be trying to cause a mislynch rather than considering the game as a whole, as you would know, having had first hand experience, that my scum play differs greatly from this game.

Unvote, Vote: Spyrex

[Katsuki]

^Go for it, as long as everyone's had their say on the matter, then I'm fine with it.

There's not much left that I can do anyways, and at this point, imo, I'm more of a distraction then anything now.

Just someone do me a favor and take a nice fucking hard look at jenni, tans/spy, and camn after I die.

[Katsuki]

I'd think its mainly just the quality of my play as of late has been abnormally atrocious. But honestly, I still fail to see how everyone saw tans as town this game. We shall see at the end of the game whether my reads were on or not.

[Katsuki]

Oh, I just remembered something. That had been long forgotten.

Spyrex replaced into my first game on MS, and basically did the same thing he did in this game. He was scum that game.

Just letting you guys know.

[Katsuki]

Damnit I was right about jenni.
Hard to read your play words wise.

I'M SORRY CAMN