I mean... I may be totally on the wrong track here... it's my first game... but doesn't that seem like he's trying to clear himself using a post restriction?
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Doesn't it seem a /LITTLE/ convenient that a post restricted character dies... and suddenly another one appears?
I mean... I may be totally on the wrong track here... it's my first game... but doesn't that seem like he's trying to clear himself using a post restriction?
On another note, it is certain we have a secondary killer on the loose, with the death of the Mafia goon.
ERGO, if we assume Vigs and other roles of the kind would not shoot night 1. (I don't know if that's the accepted strategy) We can assume there is a third party killer on the loose.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Again... I'm not sure if my logical reasoning is correct here. I have played mafia before, but it's a little different everywhere, so I'm not sure of what commonly accepted strategies are on this site >.<Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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animorpherv1 wrote:@Lady:
Last SWN game had 3 Post Restricted people. French, Portugese and another language of which I can't remember. One of which was mafia. CSL knows that. He was in it.
CSL has prior knowledge of mod tendancies.
It is possible that CSL may be faking, betting on that reaction statement as seen above.animorpherv1 wrote:
Last SWN game had 3 Post Restricted people. One of which was mafia.
It is also possible that CSL still be mafia, even if he truly does have a restriction?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Essentially... It has been known to happen that if one fakes a post limitation, it can become a real limitation?
I won't vote just yet... I need to hear more testimony and figure out how you guys play the game here xD
Essentially, I just need to have a few rounds of observation to see how you guys play, before I try engaging in scum hunting with yallYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Parama wrote:vote: TheLonging
Need I explain?
For the sake of those who do not know.... it would be nice if you did?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Katsuki wrote:We know PRs can exist, due to a dead townie having one. Given that half the players or so have even yet to post, we are already here discussing whether CSL's PR is true or not?
Lady seems to be trying to spin CSL's spanish into a scum explanation...
I'm just trying to help >.<
I don't know what the hell is supposed to be scummy in this game, because I have no reference point.
I was just giving /my/ observation.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I have no Post Restriction.
I wonder.... We have a cat PR, and Spanish PR, an dead PR, and a minimized/spoilered PR?
Is that all our PR?
Also, DH is being FoS'd for seeking an easy lynch, Ani as well...
I get both those, but why is Katsuki being FoS'd?
I've been away :X
Finally... In this set up, is it A good idea to do a lynch with so little info? I have a feelingthat while there are probably at least 1 PR'd mafia... There are also probably multiple town sided PR's... Who also may have abilities that could help us.
FOR NOW I willVote:No Oneunless something else comes up.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I had not previously voted...
I'm not sure what's better to do... I don't want to be on that "not voting" list... because it seems like an inactivity thing?
I'm just voting no one as a place holder for now I guess >.<Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Voting no one is voting for no lynch correct?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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AGar wrote:I always miss the fucking ball on the start of games.
Le sigh.
Catching up.
- I can understand CSL. Lol. Fuck yeah, spanish in highschool.
- Lol PRs.
- DH lynch? What? (Will address this)
- This post by TL is terrible. Where did he say that everyone with a PR is mafia. He said it is likely that at least some mafia have PRs. With the amount coming up (Parama questions, MafiaSSK fucking with his text, LL with her red/blue, CMAR with the orange, CSL with the spanish, TL with the cat, vezok with the L/R switch, CML had one - That's 8 right there), that's not a huge stretch to think there could be one or two in there, or is it?
- Fuck you Mafuyu, no one likes lower case Delta.
- Vezok trying to meta someone upsets me greatly.
Re: DH lynch. Not only was he misrepresented hard by TL, he left his vote on me. I HADN'T EVEN FUCKING POSTED YET. Meaning he could not be voting me based on a PR.
I didn't realize people were so dense.
Notice that I said I didn't have a PR.
AGar wrote:Oh.
VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta
For admitting to not scumhunting.
I believe this is a misrepresentation of the facts. I provided my theory, which was quickly shot down by other players as wrong. I then took a step back and allowed these players to present their theories, seeing as mine was /wrong/. If you want to hear what I think, that's fine... I'll give you my opinion on the facts at hand. However, nothing I have said so far has been taken up, so I figure that it was best to gather more info and see other FoS before proposing another theory...
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VOTE: Katsuki
Uh... I'm about 80% sure that DemonHybrid is town sided...Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Katsuki wrote:Oh man, this is amusing.
@Pacman: Why only FOS me and ani, but not CSL, who voted between ani and I?
@Spy: You comment on ani and I. What is your read on CSL?
So many just focusing on ani and I, but letting CSL slide. I am quite curious about that tbh.
A better question would be, why are you pushing for CSL so hard?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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For example... Asking "why me, and not him?" is just a little scummy to me :X
It just seems like your trying to shift a target onto his back.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Do we have much to go on? No.
And what you are asking in a simplified manner is, Why are you and others voting for me and Ani, but not CSL?
In other words, because someone else did it too, that makes it less scummy that you did it?
Secondly, that above statement is /still/ telling me that either you want people to stop voting you/ani OR to start voting/FoSing CSL. Either way, I have serious doubts that your message in that comment was really to tell us that our accusations are inconsistant. At the very least, it's not your only motive.
Also,you asked Spyrex /what his read on CSL/ was. That falls outside the realm of "your accusations are unfair" and into the realm of "Let's take a closer look at CSL".
Finally, as to why I have voted for you over CSL, since that seems to be what you are asking... I felt at the time your actions were a little more suspicious than CSL's. And now, even more so because of these above stated reasons.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Attack is the incorrect term to use in that situation. I personally feel that you are attempting to get people to take a closer look at CSL, and look less at you.
I think it's better to refer to it as "shifting the target".
I've already explained all this in a previous post.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Yes, and in doing so, you are calling attention to CSL.
You just stated on your own that this is what you are doing. You just confirmed 90% of what I have said.
Given how conveniently you are going from one FoS to another, I have serious doubts you are town.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Also, I notice that your trying to group together 3 people who's only common link at this point in the game is that they are suspicious of you.
It would be like if I said that aGar was scum because he voted me. See what I'm getting at?
Finally, if you are going to FoS me, try to give some kind of legit reason. Currently, all I see is that I have raised some questions about comments you have made, and that you are saying that I am targetting you over CSL for some reason. Allow me to disprove this statement.
During the time at which the FoS of you and Ani was made, I was away from the computer for about 18 hours.I came back later on and had to re-read. Much of what I read showed the things you and Ani did, and I agreed with some of the points, so I placed my vote on you.However, I was not the one who supposedly "overlooked" CSL.ERGO, I see no logical conclusion behind your suspicion of me, besides wanting to defend yourself because I have placed my FoS on you.
Please give a legitimate reason for to back up your FoS of me, because currently you are making no sense.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I see.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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You'll need to explain to me why it exists and the logical reasoning behind it, before I jump on that wagon.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Yes. I was wondering if there might be a logical conclusion beyond that...Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Beep? =OYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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So......
Any one else have any other suspicions? xDYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Most. Active. Game. Ever.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Parama wrote:Lady Lambdadelta- What does thinking DH is town have to do with voting Katsuki? The game isn't very active, but what are you doing to fix that? One of your posts vaguely implies suspicion of CSL, but are you suspicious of him? If so, why?
The DH town comment was slightly unrelated to my vote, which is why I went on to explain it in further posts. I'm trying to prod the convo along, and give my opinions, so activity stays up. The only post I have made that suspects CSL was at the beginning. It was a unwarrented FoS, with little basis. Most of my real FoS so far has gone to Katsuki, for reasons I have stated also in previous posts.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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If I can interject, I kinda felt like Pacman was more giving me advice, than calling me out... Or a bit of both.
I kinda needed that wake up call. The one that's like, your in this game, play it and don't just sit around and let others do things.
I kinda did some bad things in the opening of the game... But I hope I have improved ^_^
Nipah <3Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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If I may ask... If not DH. Who is your top suspect now? And why? Just curious to see where you stand now.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Note:Red truth. This is a statement that is simply the pure truth. Only the truth can be said in red. I do not have a post restriction that /requires/ me to follow this rule... But it would totally ruin my character if I did! Kihihihihihi
Blue truth is a theory that opposes and contradicts a supposed known truth. It's main use is in placing ideas or FoS'... Note that the blue truth is not absolute truth. It mearly is a possible truth, that if no one can disprove or counter, can be considered true.
Again, neither of these are requirements... I simply do them to keep up the persona
I hope that helps?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Arigatou Gozaimasu! <3Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Point of inquiry. What is ISO?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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What does ISO mean? :XYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Ok... I have a question. I see why people are FoSing Mafuyu... but there are tons of people who are simply coming along and saying "Oh, yah! I totally agree with that FoS!" Essentially, as much as IFoS: Mafuyuit's ridiculous to see people who werebasing earlier suspicions off of wanting an easy lynch,turn around and do what appears to be the same thing?
I just feel this lynch is progressing way too quickly, with too many people looking for an easy kill. If that makes me scummy, so be it.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Oh, really? :X
My bad then. ^_^ Disregard.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Mafuyu wrote:o.O
It's still a legitimate point.
Was it? :S I thought you just said it wasn't?
I mean.... I felt it was a good point, but I thought you said it was normal...Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Ok. Thanks for the clairification?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Do most Day 1's take this long? Just wondering ;PYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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OMG HAI.
I don't know you well... But hiYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Apparenty didn't explain her vote on you...Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I wish I could stab your PR.bv310 wrote:inb4 Reck votes for me.
He does it pretty often, usually justified.
Now you can! With the new WILLY WALLER 2006!Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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HilariousYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I really don't have much to say that hasn't already been said, by others.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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possible, but for the moment, he's being helpful. If he is scum, he is helping us more than some of our other lynch options anyway...Parama wrote:
Couldn't that be an attempt to try and look townie?xRECKONERx wrote:Nah.
He's translating posts which is helpful.
That makes him infinitely more townie than you.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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This is certainly interesting...Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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You're welcome! ^_^
I expressed my thoughts... though I am considering the Framm lynch too.... there are some very valid points to it.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Maemuki joined the game! <3Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Such a wonderful relationship.
:')Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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She won't flake on us, nyaa.
^_^Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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AGar wrote:I am so going to confuse LLD and Maemuki.
Fuck.
Nanodesu...
Maybe it would be best if I stuck to my red and blue guns, and Maemuki has her Orange PR.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Portuguese.pacman281292 wrote:That's not spanish. Which language is it?
And welcome here.
Hau au~ Au au~
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Okay, so anybody can tell me what are the <3 lynches so I can vote for them. My brain is fried today.
Barring a massive scum slip, or some sort of revalation, it would appear Framm and Katsuki are the choices.
I must say, there is a very persistant case on Framm. And the more this case gets brought up, the more his posts seem scummy...
I just don't want to like, wagon hop.
In addition, I would also prefer if the facts brought up against Katsuki not be left alone should Framm be the lynchee.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Gomen Nasai. I think that statement was taken the wrong way. I was just trying to explain my reasons for not switching votes, when it seems like Framm is a more solid lynch. I want to be able to play more than 2 days in this game, as it is my first. -shrugs- This will probably make me look more scummy... But all Im trying to do is ensure that I don't make some kinda of dumb accusation, which will lead to a wasted lynch on me, which in turn means I can no longer play in the game >.<
Does that make sense? :SYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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There exists the possibility that easy lynch is scum.
However, it can also be said thatscum will want to persue an easy lynch.
Therefor, it can be said that is a high majority of cases, either the target or the voter will be scum.
This does not solve anything however. Allow me to elaborate more.
It is more likely that a scum will target a townie for a lynch, than a townie will target a mafia member.This can be proven through simple probability.
Ergo, it is more likely that you are mafia for wanting to seek an easy lynch, than it is you are town, lynching a mafia.
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Also, I now feel like I'm gonna get yelled at because My theory is bogus or something .Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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-nods-. I'll try and be more forceful in expressing my opinions from now on...Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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You will never see me use the Gold truth. It is reserved for the game master. In this case, that's StrangerCoug.
In this game, my red truth is only used when it is an assured fact. You don't have to believe in the red truth, as it is not required that I tell the truth in it butI will never lie in the red.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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UNVOTE: VOTE: Framm_18
I still feel that Katsuki needs to be looked at again tommorow, soFoS:Katsuki, but at this point the case against Framm is so strong... :XYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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In addition, Katsuki has kept quiet, and hasn't done much of anything scummy (or much of anything at all) since my last FoS of her.
Framm has just been constantly saying things that are weird and doing things no townie should...
/NOT/ that I do any better... I don't think I'd know what a good townie should do if it hit me in the face :XYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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He truely is an enigma. I get a sense that I'm doing something wrong by voting him. It just doesn't feel /right/...
But I can't deny facts...Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Well. The fact is that all his votes have been somewhat suspect. However, until the Vezo vote, I didn't see any conclusive evidence of his scummy nature. It was merely being implied by /YOU/.
The vezo post/vote put serious doubt in my mind.
Also, allow me to ask the following. For one who was so certain of Framm's guilt, why are you now abandoning something that you started? I followed /YOUR/ opinions, because I thought you were making a good deal of logical sense. Especially in your big (+1/-1) town analysis. Because of you, I kept an open mind about Framm, and now switched because of an overwhelming amount of evidence that YOU have presented. This fact of me being swayed so easily by your post may seem even more scummy than you already think I am... But I felt that you brought a lot of clairity into a situation that was total chaos.
For you to now go back and renege on that really makes me wonder what the hell you were trying to accomplish with this wagon?
I do not deny that what I said was... Somewhat anti-town. I realize that I am doing way too much fence sitting, as mafuyu puts it, and am trying too hard to be seen as Town. I recognize these are scummy traits. What I would like you to see is that my reason for doing them was not to go against town... I just don't want to be lynched day 1, with little more than a suspicion against me in my first game. I realize now that if I want to stat in the game, the best way to do it is to just play it out, and stop worrying about appearences.
This has been my mistake from the beginning, and if I am lynched for it, I understand. However, I would ask that you give me a chance to prove I can be useful to town.
Finally, to restate my answer to your question above... If you want to see conclusive evidence against Framm...GO READ YOUR OWN POSTS. Above all else, you have pointed out every bit of evidence against Framm.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Also, before you come back and FoS me for "not answering your question" ( I feel like ai poorly expressed what I was trying to say in that last post)
Allow me to attempt to clairfy:
I feel that Reckoner is the most active pro-town atm. This does not mean he is not scum, this merely means he is aiding town greatly.
My vote on Katsuki was based on her trying to shift attention on to CSL, and direct the lynch his way, when being questioned about her motives.
I kept with this suspicion, until your case against framm began to grow.
Your posts put serious doubt in my mind about Framm.
This being said, my vote was swayed based off of his collection of Vezo quotes, and his backwards logic in claiming they were evidence against him.
That should answer your question.
Last note:I recognize that my actions have been suspicious.
This being said, I am doing my best to rectify these mistakes, and play with a more pro-town attitude, and less of a survivor mindset.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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xRECKONERx wrote:LL, nothing you said in 561 accurately answers this question:
You say you thought the reasons I presented were strong:xRECKONER wrote:What exactly is so strong about the Framm case in your opinion, LL?what reasons?
You say the evidence I presented was overwhelming:what evidence?
I didn't present the vezok quotes, Framm did. So what, specifically, in my posts about Framm, did YOU find particularly agreeable?
FoS: LL
Perhaps you should pay more attention and read post 562?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Oh, and if you seriously want me to go back and list every single reason why I think Framm is scum... You'll have to wait. Because that would require me quoting and explaining everyone one of his posts, as well as all of yours.
I understand you are trying to seeif I have a reason, or if I'm simply following a bandwagon... But please do not confuse my shyness for stupidity. Your question is loaded, because even if I go back and gather the evidence, you will simply state that I am spouting what you have said, and then FoS me for following your bandwagon.
It's whatever at this point really. I'm too lazy to go bak and say the same shit you have pointed out a thousand times again... It's a waste of everyones time.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,click here.
If you wish tospeak to one of us, we are Niamh, Rhiannon, Rhea, Aisling, Saoirse, Selene, Aoife, Fírinne, Aurélie, Lyra, Airna, Fiadh and Laoise.
Soar on wings of retribution and set the world ablaze