Mini 1049 - Hide and Seek Mafia - FINAL Kablooie!

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confirm

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THAT WAS YOU?
Oh.
Crap.
That explains some of what happened.

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Meat cutlet.
Fried.
With the crumb stuff around it.
Yea.

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Domino confirmed already

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Ugh Romanizations...they always give me a head ache.
Domino is scum.
Camn, Katsu, and At least one of meh and vezok are town.

Vote: Domino

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Vezok, why'd you join this game.
serious question.

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Button are you scum again.

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Pom....are you scum too. >.>

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

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Vote camn

Elli, why aren't you seeing this?

odoinou?

I'm seeing stuff, but then I'm seeing other stuff to, and then thinking about that stuff and I'm taking a guess at something.

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I thought there were some very funny mechanics.
With lots of things.
I wasn't completly wrong.

WHY DID YOU SUGGEST THE CLAIM THING.

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Unvote, vote vezo

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k.
People who are town need to start acting more town as of now.
kthx.

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V/A 3 DAYS. PROXY VOTE TO CAMN

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I r back.
Will be catching up and stuff tomorrow.
Or maybe the day after.
Depends on my schedule.

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Ugh this game.
Skimmed and can't get any reads.
brb trying again.

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Vezo, I know you're playstyle. I don't remember you being a question avoider.
So what the hell was the "no question mark so not question" thing about when it was obvobv it was.

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It depends on whether or not they're trying to lynch me entirely as a policy lynch. If somebody thinks that I'm playing scummily, but doesn't realize that I'm always scummy, then they're not scum based off that. If they know that I always play like this and say "Hey, who cares if he's scum? I don't want to play with him so we need to lynch him!" then I'm leaning scum for them.

Why?
I would waaay more likely the do the latter as town and like all the policy lynch/wagon's I've seen are town-driven.
I think you know this.
Do you?

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Mongoose are you town?
Reply with more than 1 word plz.

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Hmn.

Pom's being more lurky then normal.

Domion's new name is Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Game.

Tant is obvtown.

Mongoose is aggressively dumb and mildly scummy.

Eli has a disappointing amount of left shift aggression.

Budja is playing to his meta I see.

More tonight when I have more time.

BUTTON.
YOU KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT YOU PUT SOME OF THAT THERE FOR POINTLESS FILLER.
AMIRITE.

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UNVOTE, VOTE MONGOOSE

L-1.

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Mongoose who's scum?

As a separate thing
jenniwren, Budja, tanstalas, Katsuki, camn, Elli
2 scum from this list plz.

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Ugh. I'm getting conflicted on mongoose.
Gut says he's frustrated town and all that....I need to think.

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DGB, DOMINO needs a PROD

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And I think tans too in a few hours...

BUTTON, I HAVE NO CLUE WHY YOU THINK CAMN IS SCUMZ. None.
Gut or did I miss post saying why?

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Oh hai guys.
I'm here.
Busy right now.
Yeah.

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Vezo claim.

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Why would you tell him that.
He could have been stupid and claimed a PR.

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Didn't read most of this but saw this./

Elli is not town meta.

LINK TO GAME WHERE YOU SAW ME AS TOWN.
NAO
I THINK YOU'RE BS'ING.

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...
NAH YOU JUST HAVEN'T

VEZO START POSTING FIRST THEN I"LL

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http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/search.p ... 8&sr=posts

FLAKED FROM SITE!?!?
BULLSHIT

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I pm'ed DGB about the sample scumpm thing.
She said not to trust it and that she might have just relisted the person. Or maybe not.
So we don't know if it's 3 or 4.

Is there any reason with the mechanic to change it to 4 vs. 8 with the mechanics?

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OK WHATEVER I'LL ASSUME 3 TIME TO DESTORY THIS

TOWN
camn
jenni
Elli
tanst
Far

PEOPLE LEFT
MBF
Katsu
vezok
Button
MPR

mongoose (7): jenniwren, Budja, tanstalas, Katsuki, camn, Ellibereth, vezokpiraka
MINUS TOWN = Katsu, Vezok

K
I'm not seeing what camn sees on Katsu left but I'll trust her.
VEZOK, 24 MORE HOURS, AND THEN YOU'RE BEING BURNED INTO FIRE.

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WE'RE WAITING FOR THE PEOPLE HAVEN'T POSTED YET TO DO SHIT LIKE MBF JESUS CHRIST MPR.

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HAI GUYZ.
I'm debating something with myself.
May be nothing though.
Hold.

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Ugh.
Don't lie to me guyz.
Own up...

Actually, wait a sec.

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THE PERSON I'M SECRETLY TRANSMITTING TO.
I KNOW YOU'RE THERE.
YES YOU.

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Kats are you a liar.
Y/N.
Serious.

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Oh schnap he be liar.

Vote: Katsu

Tanst, why wait before BOMBSHELLDROP.

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As to whether I am truthful about where I hid, I will keep to myself. Hence, WIFOM.

Pointless WIFOM is pointless.
It's actually more harmful to the town.
Think why.

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I do not know why.
To me, it is not the town blowing up the rooms.

Hence, spouting random stuff and keeping scum guessing where I may hide imo is the best option.

It's not.

Unvote

I have to think...
Stop the WIFOM room hiding things Katsu. It hurts the town and I don't want to say why. If all your previous statements were lies say so nao.

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I think she's a liar.
I also think she's town.
For now.

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I think she's a liar.
I also think she's town.
For now.

This doesn't answer my question. Quit avoiding the issue.

I don't get your question. >.>

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Dissonance? You just said not to long ago's she's a liar. Why the fuck did you vote for her then, than unvote?

This right?
I don't get what dissonance means and I thought she was scum then changed my mind,

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Yeah I changed my mind...

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Elli- i think Katsu has plenty of scum motivation to play this way. But let's assume town for a sec- do you want her in endgame with you?

Wouldn't mind that much, have had worse...
But really, I see no scum motivation to go for the easily checkable lie.

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I don't intend to explain it to you.
Camn SHOULD know what I mean though.

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I think you're town but I don't trust you with some stuff.
At least not yet.
Sorry.

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HI JENNI
I SEE YOU.

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Katsu, Drippere style transfer amirite?
If you don't get what I mean nvm.

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I think you're town but I don't trust you with some stuff.
At least not yet.
Sorry.

Holy shit. This is not about me or you. This about the whole town. You being evasive is completely hurting your image (and is hurting all of town.)

FoS Ellibereth

. I'm going to give you one last shot to answer my questions. If you don't, you're in trouble.

Goddamnit you don't get it at all.

I don't trust the majority of the town. And I think me revealing certain things will help scum much more than town.

So No.

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Katsu, could you or could you not decide where you were going post-DGB hide choice sent in and being declined.

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Camn...I'm not a big fan of the liability chop usually, but ESPECIALLY here, where the town can potentially LOSE with one unlucky night I'm even more against it...

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My impression right now is that the active group is all town and the scumz are in the group that's not here at all.

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Yeah those guyz.
Scum's in there.

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Put Pom in there anyway, I don't remember seeing anything I liked from her.

Camn...I'm not a big fan of the liability chop usually, but ESPECIALLY here, where the town can potentially LOSE with one unlucky night I'm even more against it...

Then get some answers out of him! If he is such a townie, he should be able to field easy questions re: reasoning.

I'M TRYING.

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[quote="camn]
Hmm. Not much there. shook vezo out, though. Odds of Elli being scum? VERY SMALL based on this votecount alone.[/quote]
While I like the conclusion I don't really get why. >.>

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Button
/ignore
Sorry.

The thing is, scum should have no motivation to lie about where they hid. >.>
Unless I'm missing something?

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There are a few.
But...I'm not going to say I won't say but let me think if I should say.

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It means Light Sleeper is useful but me saying why so can make it not useful.
Yeah, one of those things.
Or it might not and me saying it will still be useful.
I dunno yet.

And we def should try to use setup to adv if we can but prospects are looking GRIM for that.

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http://mafiascum.net/forum/search.php?a ... 8&sr=posts

Vote: Mehplus

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No time right now.
But when I'm saying something to someone.
and it's CLEARLY not to meant to be to you.
I of course would have no reason to explain.
Otherwise I would have made it a universal transmission in the first place.

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Catching up...

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I lied, will have to do this tomorrow night. >.>

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@Elli: Why the lurking trend this game?

BECAUSE I'VE BEEN BUSY.
JUST
LIKE
YOU
HAVE
BEEN.

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Sigh

I doubt I will have much time this weekend to complete my analysis (or, comment on it the way I want).

Long story short, go look at votes. Camn seems to have no problems jumping on every wagon present. She's been on every major wagon thus far this game. (Including original katsuki wagon D1 before it shifted to mongoose).

Before now, I hadn't actually noticed that. Her voting pattern worries me greatly. (and now she is willing to go for far_cry wagon).

If I am not wrong, most people think that camn is town. Maybe my gut is just crazy

KATSU
We've just been through ALPHABET.
WHAT"S WRONG WITH BEING ON EVERY WAGON.

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Ugh too lazy to search right now.
Far_cry post scum meta and stuff plz.
My activity should be back to normal in a day or two...

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Far_cry post scum meta and stuff plz.

You're asking me to do this? Please explain. And don't tell me what meta is, I know that. What kinda stuff do you want to hear?

I want to see how I would have read you in your past games...

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Scum skimming the posts and not paying attention? AMIRITE?

Yeah my vote is staying where it is now.

And really love your flip flopping on who is scum.

I don't get how lines 1 or 3 is scummy at all. >.>
But I mean ...the main reason i think Kats is town right now is BECAUSE he was lying...

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Katsu claim hide locations plz.

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY DGB!!!
I thought you were Hoops for a while and got all confused.

KATSU, I SEE YOU'R THERE.

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no...not really :/

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Katsu claim hide locations plz.

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Its pretty evident where I hid.

FTR, I hid in elli's room. Both night. We had crazy parties there.


ALSO, NO I WILL NOT SELF VOTE. YOU CAN HOPE YOUR SCUM ASS OVER MY DEAD BODY THAT I AM SELF-VOTING.

k.
So it's obvobv I'm heavy sleeper now amirite?
And I still have no idea how it's useful at all...

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I mean light sleeper.
whatever.

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Oh yeah Katsu, reason why lying like that is bad is because YOU CAN CONFUSE THE HELL OUT OF THE POOR LIGHT SLEEPER AKA ME.

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Oops Mpr is town.

Unvote

Nonwhat's his face replaced Far_cry rite?
He's town, why are people voting him.

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Oh he hid behind me.
Which is why I had the freakout thing when he said he hid behind camn.

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Uh hai.
I really should be more useful post PSAT...which is Thursday.
Jah.

Katsu is town for lying for whoever asked and I don't remember the rest.

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And I replaced a drunk monkey that I would have lynched.

>.>

Spy, you know what Amished's tell thing is y/n?

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Ugh spy let me find that link...forgot about the forum move.

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HERE WE GO SPYSPY.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 1#p2067031
Vut you think.

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Wait Katsu was hammered????

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Spy may very well be scum...but it's only because of that replace comment thingy.

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/check in. more later
Sorry button.

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Right now motivation...
And a huge massive catch up energy sap up...

My gut still says Spy just because of that Amished tell stuff.

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*the catch up not being this game...another one.

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Goddamnit I'm having trouble with town reads this game too.
Can everyone just do me a favor and link me to what they think there most pro-town post is...

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I KNOW THE PROBLEM WITH THIS GAME SO FAR!
Not enough people have dying!
Ha!

Vote: Spy

PURE BLIND GUT.

Reading back!

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Wait, so NO ONE thinks NPIAU is scum right now?

I plan to do a PBPA of him, but is it that hard to see or something?

(And on that note, where

is

he anyway?)

Oh wait.
This post I don't like.
There's an old game I want to check though.

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POM COULD YOU COME BACK JUST TO FINISH ONE ISO!?!???

unvote

She started to remind me of here here -> http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 6&start=25

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BUTTON I'M TOTALLY MISSING NOPOINT SCUM RIGHT NOW.
TOTALLY.
I've seen town on that slot since Farwhatever, yeah.

SPY/POM hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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OH MY
I suddenly thought of a way to use the mechanic!
I don't know whether it be best to use it now or when we have 1 scum yet.

It's this: Have designated room assignments for everyone, putting saying 1 townier person with 1 scummier person in each one. Or something along those lines. Putting more likely scum together with more likely town. Would get us more flips faster and narrow stuff down too probs...
Yeah.

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I can't decide whether to vote for you or Pom.

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I want to wait for Pom replace...
It's still between her/him/it and you Spyspy sooooooo....

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V/LA 2-3 days

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I'M BACK.
JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Need to settle in and all that though...will try and get up to date and everything by tomorrow Night.

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I AM HERE!
THIS ONE IS CLOSEST TO DEADLINE I THINK SO CATCHING UP HERE FIRST!

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Before you lynch my slot, I have notified DGB that I need to replace out; (hopefully my replacement will prove more useful). I apologize for this, but I can't keep up with the game at this time. GL to everyone; happy hunting.

I don't think you were under any pressure or stuff at this point.
So the first few words is weird.
And you're not here anymore...

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I'm changing my mind.
Sapo looks very town.

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Unvote, Vote Dizzy

YOU LIVE ANOTHER DAY SPY.

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I think Nopoint is town btw.
I didn't read the case on him but I don't think I'd get it If I did.

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We should plan NA's assuming a Dizzy scumflip.

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mongoose (7): jenniwren, Budja, tanstalas, Katsuki, camn, Ellibereth, vezokpiraka
vezokpiraka (6): camn, The Buttonmen, Pomegranate, Katsuki, Far_Cry, MehPlusRawr
Katsuki (6): tanstalas, Pomegranate, nopointinactingup, jenniwren, camn, The Buttonmen
DizzyIzzyB13 (5): Iecerint, Ellibereth, camn, nopointinactingup, SpyreX

nopoint replace Farcry, Budja
Yerk replace Meh
Savp replace jenni
Mike replace Dom

This is a useless post to say that I'm still here.
And that a glance at the wagons tell me nothing.
And let Spy is still my number 1 pick.
I've though Nopoint was obvtown but something...ugh
LATER.
LATER.

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/check in prod avoid that I'm here.
barely any time right now.

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I'M HERE AND CATCHING UP!!!!

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I need to reread all thr stuff between Spy and Yerk since I'm not getting it off a skim...YES I'LL BE REREREADING IT NOW NOT LATER.

mongoose

(7): saporovirus, nopointinactingup, SpyreX,

Katsuki

, camn, Ellibereth,

vezokpiraka

vezokpiraka

(6): camn,

The Buttonmen

,

Pomegranate

,

Katsuki

, nopointinactingup, Iecerint

Katsuki

(6): SpyreX,

Pomegranate

, nopointinactingup, saporovirus, camn,

The Buttonmen

Pomegranate

(5): Iecerint, Ellibereth, camn, nopointinactingup, SpyreX


and I had totally forgotten about offwagon

Off Mongoose was: Mikeburn and Yerk
Off vezok was: Spy, mikeburn, sapo, and moi
Off Katsu was Yerk, Mikeburn and moi
Off Pomen was: Mikeburn and Sapo

^^^I think these are right.

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Oh...I HAD totally missed the vezok wagon last time...which plus my town reads PoE's nicely to Yerk...
Ok time to figure out what's happening.

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Actually, what's the vote count? Can I just vote without knowing what's going on at this point yet or??...
wait nvm.

SPY, SORRY IF YOU HAD SAID THIS BEFORE PREVIOUSLY, BUT I'M GOING WAY BACK AND THIS IS STILL BUGGING ME: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 4#p2568764

I know I'm a hypocrite and etc. and i don't remember what he did at all but...what did tasnt do. >.>

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Sorry guys.
I'm here.
Activity def back to normal monday night.
Catching up again.

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Ok
this comp is having big difficulty loading stuff and i'm not sure if this post will get through
i'll be able to get to stable area tonight and def post stuff then
from what's on this page:
I've thought camn was town whole game but I might have missed something in pages I can't see...
and i've never gotten the case on nopoint (camn).
Would still prefer one of Yerk/Spy...and seeing the overlap with a few other groupings is in Yerk.
yeah...will be able to view stuff tongith.
sorry for all the delays.

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Hey guys, I got access!
Though it's late as hell and I have two exams tomorrow...I'll get up to where I can.

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Yerk is Iec.

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Iecerint is pronounced Yerkrint.
I think.
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Don't remember how I got Yerk/Spy as a group in my previous post...probably meshed my earlier kinda now read on Spy with something else...
Off Mongoose was: Mikeburn and Yerk
Off Pomen was: Mikeburn and Sapo
^^^I KEEP FORGETTING THESE.

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Hey mike, do you have any recent scummeta.

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The whole self-hammering thing is confusing me.
Can somebody explain it?
Muchas gracias.

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Vote: Yerk

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wait.

unvote

hihihi

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SPY.
I know you hate meta and stuff but can you just appease me.
Have you ever replacement bashed as town before in the past???

It won't stop bothering me

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Okay.

Vote:Yerk

What does bidness mean >.>

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I'm pretending to know what's going on.
I just need a flip to get me some grounding again tbh...

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WHY WOULD IT HAVE BEEN PRETTY OBVIOUS TO ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION.

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that's already 3 town light sleepers.
ugh I need to think...

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Hi

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Oh. -_-

I totally missed that. Why the hell did you claim way back then? And why didn't you claim your results at that time?

Well, 3/1 is still the expected ratio with 3:1 town/scum in the game. DGB could subvert it, but balancing "PRs" is still most likely.

It was to show why I thought Kat was twon I think.
yeah.

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Where are you getting that noone has stayed with me. >.>

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@ Elli -- Because I asked you who stayed with you (as that is VERY RELEVANT and you've already claimed), and you didn't claim

Oh people did. I'm too lazy to check right now who. I'll do it later. the point of me claiming was to show that Katsu was lying so he was town though.
I'm overcome by the sudden urge to switch to spyspy but I'll restrain my inner kraken killer that holds no abide on me.

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I'm catching up some other places first.
But I hid in Spy's room.
Why am I still alive?