Magician's Mafia: The Hypnotists, Game Over

[Katsuki]

Vote Anti

This is gonna be a sad game without caps.

[Katsuki]

A better discussion question. How long do you guys think it will be before Fate breaks down and reverts back into his ol' happy caps raging personality?

[Katsuki]

Wow. Did you guys know it took Fate exactly one day (5mins shy of 24hrs) to revert back to "happy" fate?

@Mod: The rule kind of removes the fun of playing with Fate though.

That said, I agree with gandalf.

Unvote, Vote gandalf

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Dana vote wagon hop is terrible. Def up there in scumminess with gandalf.

[Katsuki]

HEY ELLI, DID YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CAPS THIS GAME?

...

OR AT LEAST, FATE ISN'T

[Katsuki]

Oh, I never knew gandalf was capable of analyzing/scumhunting, but there is one statement he's made thus far this game that I agree with.

We'll see about that though,

[Katsuki]

Scratch that then. That part is irrelevant regardless.

[Katsuki]

p.s. You're at L1.

[Katsuki]

How am I lurkish fate? I'd love if you explained that one to me.

Then again, read my sig. Its all my games, not intentional.

[Katsuki]

@Fate: You usually read better. My question is, while I am posting less than I usually would, how am I lurkish?

[Katsuki]

Oh gandalf claimed?

Eating right now, but I may have started reading from the wrong page... T^T

[Katsuki]

Wow I didn't expect 3 pages while I was gone.

I'll look into it after I finish.

[Katsuki]

I do not like what I am seeing. At. All.

You may rage if you want. It won't seem right without caps anyways.

Seraphim has been oddly quiet as of late though. Analysis maybe tonight if I am up for it.

Gandalf claim does NOT fit his play. I do not mind his lynch, flip would provide a ton of info.

[Katsuki]

I forgot, wtf was razgriz going...

[Katsuki]

WE ARE NOT HAMMERING NAO.

Too many people still not posting.

[Katsuki]

Game stalling despite 3 pages in under a day? I THINK NOT.

[Katsuki]

YEAH.
I'D RATHER HEAR EXCUSES THAN END DAY THIS QUICK AFTER A CLAIM.
Other's who have not had a chance to post yet may also have questions.

Just sayin'

[Katsuki]

I can go with that, unless chat spamming occurs, in which you owe me another page.

[Katsuki]

FATE

This is going to page 13. Gandalf needs to stop spamming.

@Raz: There is no excuses for quoting.

[Katsuki]

His avatar annoys me tbh.

If anything, its more telling that toogeloo is a panda holding a giant pendulum... /SCUMTELL

[Katsuki]

So if you attached a long piece of rope to that said tire, and hung it to a tree branch, then pushed it... I think that would make quite the pendulum no?

[Katsuki]

You have a night to get your reads sorted out.

Fate is one player. We have more than 1 scum.

[Katsuki]

Agreed.

If what gandalf claimed was true, that's 2 key PRs we've lost.

[Katsuki]

Oho, we have a wise one here.

No, I did not call fate scum there. Go read what I said. Sparky up there was tunneling on fate scum and doing nothing else, using "HALP OMG FATE SCUM I CANTZ SEEEEEEEEEEEEE" as an excuse to provide no other reads.

Vote: toogeloo

For stretching.

[Katsuki]

Vote: Raz

I will not risk any more quoting.

[Katsuki]

Ani has flaked everywhere.

Dana was on my radar for her D1 vote on MPR wagon, but honestly, both she and and raz would both be lynches that I support.

[Katsuki]

Unvote, Vote: Raz

That was some of the shittiest analysis I've ever seen. I got to 'exhibit B', and saw that your reasoning made ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

ELLI
IF YOU ARE TOWN
YOU WILL VOTE RAZ.

[Katsuki]

Masked magician, a miller?

and if you were a miller, why did you not claim early D1?

[Katsuki]

Do you not know how to play miller?

[Katsuki]

Wait wait dana claimed... I totally missed that.

Dana probably needs lynching too. Either that, or dana needs to start playing like a proper townie starting NAO.

[Katsuki]

[caps] Also no more votes on Raz until we get a votecount kthx.[/caps].

[Katsuki]

Offtopic: But I support policy lynching miller claims D1. I think the best play for a miller is not to claim, act pro-town as hell and draw the NK.

Well now, seeing as Raz has done neither of those..

Also, vezok has quit MS, and ani has flaked from every other game I'm and more...

[Katsuki]

Also, of the games I have played on MS, every time a Miller has claimed on Day 1, the player actually ended up flipping Scum. So, I understand the reasoning behind claiming Miller on Day 1 (don't waste a Cop's time), it's still massive WIFOM either way. Animorph for example did it in Traffic (Seraphim, Fate, and I were in that game), where he claimed Miller in like the second post of the game. He was Mafia Goon.

Funny that the games I've played, I've only seen real millers claim D1.

[Katsuki]

I don't get mist. I'd need to look at that. (or you may explain and then I go look).

Dana was one of my first suspects due to MPR wagon.
I would not be against dana lynch at all.

[Katsuki]

unvote

to prevent any stupid hammers. I don't dare underestimate what people in this game may be capable of.

[Katsuki]

We're not ending day that quickly dearie.

[Katsuki]

Considering the number of players that need replacing?

Nah.

[Katsuki]

My first game on this site had a ton of lurkers. It made it almost impossible to play. Mod ended up flaking too.

But I would rather wait a bit longer for mod to find replacements... hopefully now.

[Katsuki]

We are killing him.

I like sera case. He is my top lurker scum candidate too.

We will be patient and wait for replacements. BUT RAZ IS DYING.

This is all. I may look at game tonight, but I have a bunch of other games that need looking at tonight.

[Katsuki]

Vote: Dana

[Katsuki]

We can do that after we lynch Dana, no?

I still agree on sera case, but please, we have obv scum in front of our eyes.

Plus, toogo, you're one to talk, considering that you made raz self-hammer possible yesterday... I mean, there was a reason why I unvoted...

[Katsuki]

Anti is town.
Call it a meta read.

dana is scum.

[Katsuki]

Comparing this game to my 70page+ D1 of another game, this is terrible.

Honestly, I think less than half the players have posted thus far today.

I still think dana lynch is the way to go.

QUOTES NEED TO STOP, NAO.

[Katsuki]

Dana said: "Iso 33: Unvotes again, and doesn't vote Razgriz the rest of the day. Looks like an excuse to take his vote off to give his scumpal more of a chance."

This is ridiculous misrep. You can go back and read, I unvoted to prevent exactly what happened yesterday, raz self-hammering (quickhammering too).

ISO 25 doesn't mean anything. So I didn't remember that I was already voting Raz, your point?
ISO 23 is poor reasoning because... I lynched scum?

Did not get time to get to the rest of it. However, I do not get why Dana is not hanging yet.

[Katsuki]

We were still conversing. Why the fuck would I leave someone at L1 if we have no intent to end day?

That is very scummy of you, you're still mis-repping. You SAW HOW HE SELF-HAMMERED. How was I suppose to re-vote him after too put him back at L1 hmm? You still pushing the fact that I was not voting for him come day's end, despite my expressed intent to vote and lynch him, is laughable and scum grasping at straws.

Weak case is weak case.

[Katsuki]

@TASKY: DANA FIRST, THEN TOOGO. THOUGH SERAPHIM LOOKS LIKE A MUCH BETTER OPTION OVER TOOGO IMO.

[Katsuki]

Oh, forgot about caps rule.

I suppose, sera first, because I suspect him too with his lurking even at end of D1.
My thoughts on tooge are mixed.

[Katsuki]

A town with this activity is adept?

Elli, dana is scum. Trust me on this one.

[Katsuki]

^AtE time!

[Katsuki]

YEP, WE HAS SCUM HERE. Make more shit up please.

Though, I just noticed too. I accidentally quoted toogeloo over miller talk/lynching raz. Apologies.

[Katsuki]

Oh, you are dana scum-buddy?

[Katsuki]

HAI DGB

DANA NEEDS ROPE. BAD.

He's making up stuff about people being hypnotized now... When no one's been quoted.

[Katsuki]

I think we'll know a lot of stuff once dana flips.

DGB, you replacing in for seraphim?

[Katsuki]

Oh, spy is black mist replacement.

Vote: spyrex

Dana's flip leads me to believe that black mist was scum.

[Katsuki]

Well spy, as I said, dana's flip says a few things for me. Granted there are a few possibilities, but I will reconsider them when I have time.

[Katsuki]

Funny how tasky just quoted spy too.

[Katsuki]

Think so.

[Katsuki]

ELLI

Remember when we used to play with Sam? Back then, everything was much less inactive.

[Katsuki]

SO

BOTH CES AND DGB SEEM TO LOVE QUOTING.

YOU GUYS ARE DRIVING MY SCUMQUOTEDAR CRAZY!!!

[Katsuki]

urp forgot about caps rule.

sorry mod.

[Katsuki]

Elli, did you become blind?

Read it again.
Been really busy as of late too, what with catching up in every game of mine (well, will be busy with this).
___________

There is one thing I need to say though. STOP QUOTING POSTS GUYS.

[Katsuki]

SPYREX

This is serious business between Elli and I. Your speculation isn't appreciated.

[Katsuki]

<.<

[Katsuki]

That was Elli, not me...

Don't go pinning that one on me, spy.

[Katsuki]

As for activity, it's been like this all game.

I will be re-reading when I have time, aka hopefully this weekend.

[Katsuki]

Kats and I sort some stuff out.

But I want to sort out stuff with Kats first.

I'll freely admit its going RIGHT over my head whatever shenanigans you're up to

Goddddddddddamnit Spy...
Look over yesterday and today again plz. >.>
Just me and Kats is fine.

Just me and Kats is fine.

[Katsuki]

I am rather perplexed at anti-scum. Personally I thought he was town D1, because at that time, I was scum with him in another game, and his scum-play was painfully obvious and bad.

He probably is still town, though I will save it for when I do my re-read.

[Katsuki]

@Tasky: At the moment, no, I do not think anti is scum. As I said, I will see when I do my re-read.

Also, I know its easier to spot if you know they're scum.

[Katsuki]

My GOD Elli.

I give up getting through to you...

[Katsuki]

I need to re-read. = =

And someone needs to tell me who spy and DGB are replacing in for. Cuz I don't remember anymore.

[Katsuki]

LEMME DO MY GODDAMN RE-READ FIRST.

I will let you know who I think is scum then.

>.>

[Katsuki]

Oho? This is interesting.

[Katsuki]

Also, MPR, please claim results.

[Katsuki]

I are not scum.

I did lol at the Aizen flip though.

@toogo: Explain the so-called "fishing" attempt.

[Katsuki]

No.

At the time, I had JUST saw your JAOT claim, so I was thinking about the lack of a NK N2. Paranoia semi-took over, as it means one of three things.

1. You are telling the truth about doc-ing GW, in which you are both town.
2. The scum lies in the inactives, aka spy+DGB scum team. Considering that anti flipped scum, I find this pairing now unlikely.
3. Scum did not kill, and tried to hypnotize. I do not know how plausible this is.

If it is not 2 or 3, then toogeloo and GW are confirmed town.

[Katsuki]

Ok I just caught up on the later half of D3. Does anyone find this statement worrisome?

also, more people need to vote Toogeloo or show me nicely and clearly why I should vote someone else. If you already did and I missed it, show me where.

This was Tasky #711, which came after toogeloo's roleclaim in #649. I don't think tasky ever commented on toogeloo claim either, but I'll doublecheck after I get home.

I am running out of time, and must go to class. Meanwhile, can you get an updated votecount analysis up DGB? I completely missed your VC analysis D3.

[Katsuki]

There is nothing going on between Elli and I. We just had a few misunderstandings which never ended up getting worked out.

Comments tomorrow.

[Katsuki]

Wait, what?

DGB claims some sort of hypnotize detector?

I CALL SHENANIGANS!

Vote: DGB

Hint: DGB's role would make gandalf's role pointless. We have gandalf role flip. Hence, DGB is probably lying.

[Katsuki]

I want Kat to explain how Gan's role means DGB's can't exist.

Because I'm not seeing how "I know if I'm hypnotized" means "I can tell if SOMEONE was hypnotized" can't be in the game.

MIND YOU, I think we've got a lying PR but no massclaim today sooo

Wait, so spy thinks DGB is lying about her role, yet wants me to explain how DGB's role can't exist?

I guess I'll play along, but not after I know what's going on first.

@DGB: So what exactly is your role? Mind clarifying it for me?

[Katsuki]

Also, following toogeloo would be a wise thing for today.

The point about DGB quoting imo is a very strong point against her. I KNOW that I constantly posted in GIANT CAPS of NOT to quote posts, yet she ignored it for quite a long while.

[Katsuki]

Quote the entire damned post spy... read what you said.

and I just remembered that I accidentally quoted too. = =

[Katsuki]

The post I quoted of yours, no?

[Katsuki]

Would you like to provide any reasons for that? If the reason is "deadline", then you can take your so-called "case" elsewhere.

Meanwhile,

Unvote

Spy, I'd still like you to explain what you meant by everything back there.

Studying right now (ended up doing other things last night), will look at game later. Tasky is looking much less town than he did when he first replaced in though.

[Katsuki]

List of Town PRs:

Fate - Watcher
MPR - Tracker
Gandalf - Self-hypnotize detector
Tooge - Claimed JOAT

DGB - Claimed hypnotize detector

____

Toogeloo's is virtually confirmed, as he prevented N2 death. DGB's is up for debate, though she is not the lynch for today.

This leaves spy, tasky, CES and myself.

Vote: Tasky

I still believe his D4 push on toogeloo was silly.

[Katsuki]

I like that idea.

Unvote, Vote: DGB

If DGB flips town then that will leave CES, Elli, spy and myself as unconfirmed.

[Katsuki]

Elli you are scum?

Also have you been reading anything? Ghost is a whole lot more cleared than tasky is. (coughdocprotectcough)

[Katsuki]

Also I thought I was onto something with Dana... = =
I actually didn't realize you thought it was guilty until I looked back.

I think you get the Sam thing in all honesty. It will come tomorrow.

[Katsuki]

Just a note.

Scum missed a NK N2. That's +1 hypnotized player. I doubt scum hypnotized MPR, but rather killed him due to claimed PR. This leaves +2 hypnotized players lying around.
If town does not mislynch, then scum will eventually run out of NKs.

Town should be ok. Hopefully.

List of suspects:
CES
Spy
Elli
DGB
Tasky (town if DGB town)

[Katsuki]

Elli:

I don't think DGB scum...just with my experience with her she wouldn't be the type to just make up that claim when she's busy with non-mafia stuff...she would have just tried to keep it simple.

Ok this is just terrible. Fake-claims do not happen over the course of only one day.


Sleeping now, vote accordingly guys.

[Katsuki]

^I like how tasky is trying to coax tooge into using his one-shot RB tonight.
It's posts like these that I am having a very hard time believing that tasky is town.

I want to hear why GW thinks I am scum, aside from "deadline". I think I asked of this from tasky too, but he never answered me.

Tasky interaction with coggy this page also gives me bad feelings. I will see if I can translate those feelings into words after I get out of class.

[Katsuki]

Also tasky, I'd love to hear your response to spy's inquiries on your thoughts on all this "dealio"

[Katsuki]

I wonder.

1-shot ability, and we are not in lylo. You tell me what is wrong with that. (hint: Why is rolefishing scummy?)

[Katsuki]

Also, stop avoiding the questions. That's twice you've dodged out of my question. I also want to hear your thoughts on the "whole dealio" as spy said.

[Katsuki]

What?

I suppose those roles CAN exist together, I just find it unlikely. Spy, considering how long you've been around, you should know how easy it'd be to fake "hypnotize-detector".

Also, this wagon on me is terrible. If I get lynched before I get home, make sure you guys revisit wagon, it is guarenteed scum-loaded.

[Katsuki]

Also, tasky is by FAR scummier than DGB. But now tasky is tied to DGB. Hence, why I did not go for tasky lynch is because tasky alignment tells us nothing about DGB. However, DGB flipping town confirms tasky, and will put us in a VERY good position D6.

My lynch will be bad for town.

[Katsuki]

I can't make a case while in class, my multi-tasking skills only go so far...

EFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

P-edit: BECAUSE WE HAVE SCUM THAT NEED TO GET A COUNTER-WAGON GOING???

IF ANYTHING, DGB LYNCH GIVES US EVEN MORE INFO NOW, AS IF SHE FLIPS SCUM WE KNOW THAT HER PARTNER WAS RUNNING SHENANIGANS.

YOU GUYS ALSO KEEP FORGETTING THAT ELLI IS STILL IN THIS GAME AS WELL.

[Katsuki]

Also, for those who have never played with DGB before.

Her 3 posts addressed to the 3 voters on her wagon was very survivalistic. That is not like town-DGB at all. AT ALL. WHICH POINTS TO A VERY POSSIBLE SCUM-ELLI IF DGB FLIPS SCUM. (Elli is not a stranger to DGB)

[Katsuki]

Erg.

I wanted to hold off on this, but meh.

ROleclaim: Magician Roleblocker

[Katsuki]

...

No one stopped to think about there being 2 townies with roleblocking powers was rather unprobable after I flipped?

I hate deadline lynches. I hadn't banked on dying the day I died, and never was able to make a post summing up my thoughts on the game and players.

[Katsuki]

...

No one stopped to think about there being 2 townies with roleblocking powers was rather unprobable after I flipped?

I hate deadline lynches. I hadn't banked on dying the day I died, and never was able to make a post summing up my thoughts on the game and players.

You don't appear to have questioned it.

Just because I don't appear to have questioned it does not mean you guys don't have to as well... especially in lylo.

[Katsuki]

So many things to be angry with here.

Kat not claiming until the doom rained down.
Kat going Toog is town yo (although this isn't as irritating as the previous).
DGB going crazy on me AND abandoning her VCA to vote me. Grrr
YOU BUNCH OF MALCONTENTS LYNCHING ME BEFORE I COULD EVEN TALK.
CES not looking at how weird Toog's lynch on me over rationalization.

And, of course:

NO ONE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE POWER SETUP DIDNT LINE UP.
GOD.

Say what you want Toog about how being goons made it soo stacked against you if you jerks had flipped goons instead of crazy roles there would have been a bloodbath.

Dealing with pending lynch while in an important class does not make for the best scenarios, just saying.

[Katsuki]

Oh wait NVM <_<

You thought I was being hypnotized right?

RIGHT

BINGO. I kind of misunderstood the hypnotize mechanics when the game started... = =

I didn't realized I missed a night action...

[Katsuki]

I see your theory and raise you respect