Friend wrote:Town meta = ongoing game(s)
Scum meta = furc posted it earlier in the thread bro
Lemme say this about meta -
IT CAN BE CHANGED
. Everyone using meta as the fucking holy bible needs to be shot. Repeatedly. In the head.
It's also (afaik) a fairly widely accepted belief that a few games can't be used to establish a VItown/scum meta.
Furcolow wrote:If we were scum together, I would be telling mothrax what to do.
As it was, I was all over his wagon, regardless of who was there at the end. I was arguing with his stupidity, whereas I should have been ignoring it altogether as it was obviously scum. He had his vote on me for like 2 weeks, though, and you're judging I'm scum, Judge? That makes me believe you are scum trying to get an easy mislynch. I've said this like ten times now, and I'm going to keep stating the facts if you are lying.
Ok, this is textbook WIFOM right here, so you've basically said to me "I have no defense for what you're accusing me of. Instead, I will tell you what I would've done as scum, so you will think that I am not scum, but what if that's what I want you to think, etc etc." WIFOM indicative of scum? Nope. But you haven't cleared yourself of anything in my eyes.
My case on you is hinging on you spewing contradictions everywhere throughout this game. Personal experience in several other games has shown me that players that make repeated contradictions of themselves are scum. Why? Because scum need to make up a lie to be on their feet, often forget about said lie, and then backtrack over it inadvertently later in the game. I've found plenty of yours.
You want to keep spewing that I'm "scum for pushing the easy mislynch," go for it. But two problems with that. First of all, you obviously aren't an "easy mislynch" if you're still alive. Second of all, I have a case backing it up. You're going to have a tough time debunking contradictions, now aren't you. Also, it's not like I spent all of D1, D2 and D3 pushing for your lynch. Quite the opposite, actually. But I invite you to try and disprove my contradictions I've found.
Previously pointed out:
Here.
And here.
And one more time here.
Smoke/Light:
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Confidence: I can't find the main post I was looking for after my browser reloaded, but needless to say, you have flip-flopped back and forth countless times between "I am sure he is scum!" (Going so far as guaranteeing a Vezok-scum flip) and "I am not sure of my reads, I can't read alingment."
Meta:
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You say that you/Mothrax would've been hard cross-bussing? Funny, because Mothrax and I were pretty well at each others throats, no? So wouldn't that nullify any read you have on me? Or is this just another one of your convenient inconsistencies? You can't say you're town because one player treated you a certain way and then ignore that the same interaction occurred on a player you're trying to call scummy.
Someone re-highlight the Beefster/M=W case for me.
Beefster is scummy as town. I haven't seen his scum play, but I've played two games with him as town, one where he was replaced out because of lurking, the other where we lynched him as VT. I'm sure I can dig up a scum meta on him to compare. As for M=W, this is similar to the town meta I've seen on him. Again, though, as I said... meta changes. I'd really like to see a solid case though, considering people are continuously advocating for his lynch, and I've yet to see a good reason why. Until then, I'm comfortable with my vote.
Friend is null-read.
We need moar Plum, asap.
[off topic]Finally, Furc. Do me a favor. Stop calling me judge. It gets annoying trying to figure out who you're talking to only to realize it's me. I don't use that handle for anything more than keeping an account at TL and lurking/trolling some of the forums. I didn't get "laughed off TL", ftr. I quit on my own. I was signed up for a recent game with no hitches, actually. So you might want to check the facts there.[/url]
