Mafia on Holy Orders (Game Over!)

[Iecerint]

Money @ mouth.

Unvote; Vote: SocioPath

[SocioPath]

Money @ mouth.

Unvote; Vote: SocioPath

<3

ALSO I LOVE THE WAY YOU WAIT UNTIL THE SECOND MY VOTE IS OFF YOU.



TORN AGAIN.

[Haylen]

I completely disagree with the meta argument. I think meta is really important in a game because a scumtell for one person may be a towntell for another. Wow, Vezok didn't even try to play really, if you're not going to play then don't bother joining a game, speaking of meta that was an extremely botched attempt by Vezok - I would love to know what aspect of play he was metaing.

Sociopath, why did you vote for Iecrint in post 1317? I don't see very much of an explanation anywhere.

Ice post 1318, that was the worst play I have ever done, don't hold me to it, I had a lot of things going on at the time and only didn't replace out because UK would have been angry at me.

The ad homs are ridiculous, btw. ENOUGH.

Chronopie, why are you following the lights and doing what they say? If they are players just like us, then they aren't infallible, so what you're doing is exactly the same as sheeping. Do we even know what they glows and smokes mean yet?

Before anybody asks, I don't know what the special circumstances are that may make me scum. I have thought of something but I don't want to put Socrates at risk if I am correct.

Pacman, why don't you want to wait for Plum? It's pretty scummy not to want to hear the opinions of another player.

[Me=Weird]

Friend, I don't think you're scum because of that. I skimmed your ISO and found scumminess. Unfortunately I didn't have time to say why then, and I have to go really soon, so no time now. But I probably will tomorrow.

Iec, them being aligned at all is auto win, since we can't target them. There is no way for them to die. I suspect it has to do with the Holy Orders mechanic.

Hi Haylen.

[pacman281292]

I completely disagree with the meta argument. I think meta is really important in a game because a scumtell for one person may be a towntell for another. Wow, Vezok didn't even try to play really, if you're not going to play then don't bother joining a game, speaking of meta that was an extremely botched attempt by Vezok - I would love to know what aspect of play he was metaing.

Sociopath, why did you vote for Iecrint in post 1317? I don't see very much of an explanation anywhere.

Ice post 1318, that was the worst play I have ever done, don't hold me to it, I had a lot of things going on at the time and only didn't replace out because UK would have been angry at me.

The ad homs are ridiculous, btw. ENOUGH.

Chronopie, why are you following the lights and doing what they say? If they are players just like us, then they aren't infallible, so what you're doing is exactly the same as sheeping. Do we even know what they glows and smokes mean yet?

Before anybody asks, I don't know what the special circumstances are that may make me scum. I have thought of something but I don't want to put Socrates at risk if I am correct.

Pacman, why don't you want to wait for Plum? It's pretty scummy not to want to hear the opinions of another player.

I can answer for Socio and myself:
That's just the way Socio acts. It's annoying, and A LOT, but he doesn't seem to change it.
And, waiting for Plum's opinion is OK, but what isn't OK is to make your decision based on what only one player thinks. It would be good to hear something from her, yeah.
Finishing reread later.

[AGar]

I completely disagree with the meta argument. I think meta is really important in a game because a scumtell for one person may be a towntell for another.

And what about the fact that people can change the way they play? How does meta fit that?

Your post has been complete fluff-type crap. You try distancing yourself from Vezok's scummy play, but then you just honestly provide nothing of your own. :golfclap:

Furc wagon isn't going to go anywhere cause of this meta crap. Which is bull, but whatever.

Haylen(vezok) wagon go!

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Haylen

[Iecerint]

@ SP -- Rather, the precipitating factor was your Pacman vote. Does not make sense.

@ MW -- they could have a town wincon or scum wincon without contributing to needing to be killed or whatever. Like "wins with town."

[Vi]

Vote Count XLII

~ This is nice, but getting late

Me=Weird (L-3) ~

Iecerint,

Plum, Friend, Furcolow

Haylen (L-4) ~ Chronopie, AGar
Furcolow (L-5) ~

AGar,

Me=Weird
Iecerint (L-5) ~ curiouskarmadog,

SocioPath

pacman (L-5) ~ SocioPath
SocioPath (L-5) ~ Iecerint

Friend (L-6) ~

Haylen

Not Voting:

pacman, Haylen

AGar 0 | Chronopie 0 | Me= 0 | Friend 1 | Furc 1 | Iece 0 | pacman 0 | Plum 2 | ckd 0 | Socio 0 PROD1 8 | Haylen 0

-A small glow surrounds Chronopie as of post 1419...

-The smell of smoke surrounds Chronopie as of post 1419...
--With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

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[curiouskarmadog]

-A small glow surrounds Chronopie as of post 1419...

-The smell of smoke surrounds Chronopie as of post 1419...

lol

[AGar]

Well that's interesting, then. Lol.

[pacman281292]

-A small glow surrounds Chronopie as of post 1419...

-The smell of smoke surrounds Chronopie as of post 1419...

lol

Yeah, lol.
However, it makes me think that it might be what Socio said (in his way of wording, which might be more accurate (?)).

...

Also, pacman, in case you weren't sure, that second post of my mine you just quoted is about MW -- not Furc. Your "the only valid Furc" thing makes me confused.

Unrelated note: my glow indicates that at least one !!!!!! says that he has non-Cop investigation abilities.

Yes I acknowledge that (how the fuck would Furc attack himself anyway?). The part where I speak to Furc is related to a wallpost from him, which I decided not to quote.


Back to reread funtime!

i will answer them.
I am town because I am actually responding to your stupidity, Judge. You are tunneling worse than I've ever seen anyone tunnel with 0 case and 0 real contradictions. Address any of those contradictions, like I have already challenged, not with linked vague posts but ACTUAL WORDS I CAN REFUTE, and I will make you see what I had going through my mind when I posted that in the first place. By tunneling me, I feel like you are likely to be scum who has been distancing and is trying to negate my inherently good scumhunting by making me constantly defend myself.

You have probably seen that Friend and I were just victorious in lylo, and you want us gone from this game.

Those questions aren't directed to you. And furthermore, what you do say here is like, "I'm town because I'm town, and you're tunneling me because your case sucks". Your first statement is WIFOM, and the other stuff is IMO a big lie (while AGar has been tunneling, and that is no good, his cases have made sense (I've disregarded them a bit because I see you as a VI, and because of the tunneling stuff), and they have been better than your "awesome scumhunting".
Sincerely, I've not seen you even trying to make a serious case.

CKD, why do you think I'm scum?

if you had to guess why...what would you say?

Don't dodge questions. Either I'm blind, or you have yet to put an actual case on Iec.

would anyone like to take the effort and going back and putting all the glow and smoke posts together in one post...I dont have the time, but am curious if there is a pattern.

If I do have time I'll try to give it a shot (not tomorrow, but maybe sunday). However I won't guarantee anything.

@AGar: I agree, as should be obvious by my vote.
pacman, are you saying you think furc not scummy for doing all that stuff

just because

he's a VI? VI's can be scum to you know.
You know friend, you still haven't answered my question from a while ago, "Why are you calling me out on IIoA on my mothrax case now, when you completely ignored it for so long?

MOD: V/LA on Tuesday until further notice.

Also, note sig.[/offtopic]

This post does look fishy. While it might come with good intentions, it might be an attempt to discretely push for a Furc lynch.
Humm... me confused.

Soc didn't specify. However, he said that vezo was confirmed town except for one minor possibility. Since Soc flipped tracker, a parsimonious explanation is that he negative-tracked vez and the minor possibility is that vez is a goon who didn't send in the NK.

Vez also said something with Soc that might have implied something else was going on. So there may be another thing to it, too.

This is what I think might have happened.
Also, I think vezo claimed town with a minor powerrole, acquired. This made Soc unvote.

Hi Haylen!

M=W, your theory is wrong. There is a way to tell whether furc is scum - I've read his scum meta and he's provided at least one example of it. He's very, very readable, and in this game, he's town.

Anyways, saying stupid things like "I'm starting to think you're scum, Friend" based on NOTHING except me saying furc is town is useless and scummy. You need the noose.

Nope.
First, again, YOU CAN'T RELY SOLELY ON META. AND I THINK MORESO FOR VIs LIKE FURC.
And second, the useless part of you calling furc "obvtown obvtown" is that you don't even argument it beyond "meta". And furthermore, that you haven't posted about anything contentful lately.
@Haylen: It would be appreciated if you gave us a better catch-up. Many things have happened. That post is lacking IMO.

[Friend]

AGar, Haylen is a bad lynch, due to Soc. I'm fairly sure he got a null track.

[Chronopie]

lol.

Both light AND smoke?

Semi-V/LA over the next week or so, until I get full internet access back.

[Furcolow]

light for the investigation speculation

[Furcolow]

smoke because "vezok/haylen" is not a good lynch, imo
i will do some scumhunting, just for you pacman
ill make a list in a moment

[pacman281292]

smoke because "vezok/haylen" is not a good lynch, imo
i will do some scumhunting, just for you pacman
ill make a list in a moment

It's a good idea.

[AGar]

AGar, Haylen is a bad lynch, due to Soc. I'm fairly sure he got a null track.

So?

Track isn't exactly 100% confirming, is it? Not like his track said "Vezok is innocent." Said Vezok didn't carry out an action that night.

I eagerly await Furcolow's "scumhunting."

Sidebet on a vote on me now that my vote's off of him?

[Haylen]

I have read the full game yet, that's why. I've only read Ten pages back.

And what about the fact that people can change the way they play? How does meta fit that?

No matter how much glitter you sprinkle on turd to call it art, it's still a turd.
You can change the outside but you can't change the inside. There will always be subtle clues.

Actually, AGar, you'll find that I have asked several people questions in that post about why they're doing what they are, I don't call that fluff: I call that analysis.

[Friend]

Guys.

I just got something important.

I received a message, presumably from either a player or one of the "holy ones." Here's what it contained:

bothhaveglow&smoke

otherisscum

vezlie-d2ability

idme/wexplain-GGSCHB

batery->rolepoints

Does anybody know what the GGSCHB means? We need to find out who these players are, because one of them is scum.

This is big.

[curiouskarmadog]

when did you get this?

[Friend]

18) !!!!!!!!
19) !!!!!!!!!!

probably has the right amount of letters

CKD: This morning at 2 AM.

[curiouskarmadog]

i dont know what any of that means.

[curiouskarmadog]

I figure the last bit means, that when the battery goes down (or fills up with a death) people (or scum) get role points that they can use for things.

"otherisscum

vezlie-d2ability

idme/wexplain-GGSCHB"

I dont have a clue what any of this means.

[curiouskarmadog]

and I dont know why you got it...

and why you got it now, so late in the day.

[Friend]

It was written in that format...

My interpretation:

bothhaveglow&smoke: Both players have the glow and smoke ability. Duh.

otherisscum: The other one of the !!!!!s (not the one that sent this to me) is scum.

vezlie-d2ability: Vezo/Haylen had an ability used on D2. Maybe confirming them as town. Some info might be nice, Haylen.

idme/wexplain-GGSCHB: If we can find out who they are, they explain the mechanic, etc. No clue what the GGSCHB means.

batery->rolepoints: When the remaining battery power gets "converted," it goes to these two players and presumably helps them out somehow.

Anyways. How are we gonna find these guys?

PEDIT: CKD, I don't know why I got it either. None of it makes a whole lot of sense.