Mini 1023 - City Watch Mafia - Game Over!

[Thor665]

I don't see why that would terrify you, it undermine multiple reads?

No, just the idea that someone legitimately thought of it as a good idea to do while being town.

I'm assuming at this point that either some someone widely accepted as town is scum thus they are keeping a support base alive

or

there is two scum left.

Why not both?

[FakeGod]

I don't see why that would terrify you, it undermine multiple reads?

No, just the idea that someone legitimately thought of it as a good idea to do while being town.

*shrug*

Hey man, we all do stupid things one time or another.

[FakeGod]

o Chrono's been lynched while I was gone

[VasudeVa]

I really need to reread this game. I think someone is playing an awesome scumgame.

[Budja]

If he does flip scum, I will be surprised.
Waiting...

[molestargazer]

VOTE COUNT

Chronopie (5): Plum, VasudeVa, TheButtonmen, Thor665, Chronopie

FakeGod (1): Budja

Not Voting (1): FakeGod

With 7 alive, 4 is needed to lynch.

The face of Fred Colon, the Watch's Custody Officer, was rarely dry. But now it seemed to have become a torrent of sweat. A small puddle was gathering at his feet as the remaining members of the watch crowded around him.
"He does have all the keys, you know..."
"N-No! Listen!" He stammered awkwardly. A few officers, having gone door-knocking, opened the door and stared at Colon in the corner awkwardly. It seemed almost unfair to be picking on him when the only thing he could fight back against was a bacon sandwich*.

Things were getting desperate, Colon thought awkwardly in the corner as he stood wringing one of his shoes, now saturated by the constant stream of sweat from his face. He looked down at his standard-issue sword. The most strenuous thing he'd had to do with it recently was point with it to give directions to a passing tourist**. Nervously, he drew it out of its scabbard.

"Listen, I'm not one of them!"
"What did he say?"
"I think he said he was one of them."
"Oh." One watchman drew his sword and thrusted it at Colon, who squealed and swung his sword wildly. There was a clang of metal as the strike was deflected. Unfortunately, Colon didn't have the strength to hold on - his sword went flying into a nearby wall, which it dented. The watchman thrust his sword again, and suddenly there was a cloud of pink smoke. Standing where Colon was was a dwarf, looking very angry and holding a large axe.

"HAMCRU-" Vimes began to say incredulously. He was interrupted by a wild dwarf war cry, and ducked as an axe was swung at his head. Unfortunately, the deep-downer was no match for the room full of armed watchmen.

*And he often had people check to make sure it was well dead. He wouldn't like to feel something squirming around in his oversized gut.
**Said tourist was found in the shades 2 days later holding his severed head by the hair, but he seemed cheerful enough. Colon had handily pointed him towards the Alley of Negotiable Affection rather than the Nearest Apothecary.

Chronopie, AKA Grag Hamcrusher, MAFIA GOON, has been lynched.

It is now NIGHT FOUR. Night actions to me by Saturday 2nd - preferably sooner, since it's unlikely I'll be able to post on Saturday.

[molestargazer]

Sam Vimes had often thought he had felt like death.

Like that time I was flung down an underground river. Or maybe the time I fell through the library roof and went back in time, before getting mugged and left in an alley. Or that time I was given too much Klatchian coffee and went past the wrong side of sober. Oh, and every morning when I used to drink. Or when...

He was up to the 20th time he had felt like death before he wondered why he was thinking about it. Despite the harrowing events of the past few days he felt... fine. He rolled out of the small camp-bed in his office and reached for the door handle.

Which his hand went through.

Am I drunk again?

He reached for the handle again. He was sure he'd got it that time.

I'm surprised you haven't realised what's going on yet, Commander. Vimes spun around, and Death was leaning against the wall. Vimes hoped he was only imagining the amused look on the skeletal face.
"I'm dreaming, right?"
An ever-present possibility, certainly. But no.
"Damn!" Vimes looked back at his body on the bed. He felt oddly detached. He thought he should be feeling a bit more than this. It was... well, partially relief.
"Did I not set the traps on the roof properly?" He asked, by way of seeming interested.
Were it not for those traps, you would have awoken to find me here about... 2 hours ago. A humourous coincidence, really.
"Huh." Vimes didn't much feel like laughing. His ghostly head was full of questions. Unfortunately, he doubted he was going to get more answers.

***

Down in the canteen, the watchmen were getting nervous. It was already past 10AM.
"Should we go and wake him?"
"Of course not, you know how he gets when people do that... remember Constable Oredragger*?"
"But what if he's.. y'know?"
"Nah, not Commander Vimes. He's probably just resting..."
"Yeah, with all the work he's been doing and that."
"Yeah, that's right."
"Yeah. He'll be fine."

Another hour passed, and it was collectively decided that the remaining Watchmen could not put up with the canteen coffee any more - and went to wake the apparently slumbering Vimes. They opened his door nervously and peered in.
"Oh, gods..."

*Said Constable resigned from the Watch after a suspiciously Constable-Oredragger-Shaped hole in the Commander's door appeared very early one Saturday morning, after Oredragger rushed in to tell the then-hungover Commander Vimes about an assault on an officer. In a very loud voice.

VasudeVa, aka Commander Samuel Vimes, TOWNIE, has been killed.

It is now DAY FIVE. Deadline for today is Friday 15th October.

[FakeGod]

Is there a mod-confirm?

[molestargazer]

Is there a mod-confirm?

No.

[Thor665]

Every time FG says mod confirm I want to reach through cyberspace and swat the back of his head.

Plum is pretty obv. town.
Budja has a plan he wants to get on the table.
I'm going to go re-read some of the VV/TBM stuff from Day 2.
Might even get crazy aggressive and do a bit of vote analysis for fun, won't do that till late weekend though due to laziness and work.

[Budja]

^ Plum is confirmed town.

Now, the reveal.
Thor and I are not neighbours, we are lovers which he can confirm.
What I suggest is that we lynch one of FG/Button today. Should that fail and both of us survive the night, you can lynch one of us, killing us both. I would be fine self-hammering tomorrow.
Since my suspects ATM are Button and Thor, this seems good to me.

[Thor665]

^ Plum is confirmed town.

Actually that's a good point, she can only be scum if you're scum, which is what I was considering - but since there's only one scum left that makes her confirmed. (and scum killed...VV?)

New considerations for me, back later after food and theatre to see if brilliance ensues.

[Thor665]

My quick glance vote consideration seems to suggest FG is, bewilderingly, town. I'll post up my reasoning for this later in pretty colors.

Vote: TheButtonmen

[FakeGod]

You guys are lovers??

Didn't see that coming, at all.

Since three of the 5 remaining players are confirms each other, (Plum, Budja, Thor), this makes it easy.

Vote:TheButtonmen

[VasudeVa]

Go Town!

[Thor665]

@FG - we're confirmed lovers. We actually don't know the other player's alignment.

[FakeGod]

@FG - we're confirmed lovers. We actually don't know the other player's alignment.

wut

[TheButtonmen]

^ Plum is confirmed town.

Actually that's a good point, she can only be scum if you're scum, which is what I was considering - but since there's only one scum left that makes her confirmed.

'splainy how we know there is only one left?

Set up to me doesn't make sense with the day abilities (2 day cop), doc and all the dead scum being goons.

[TheButtonmen]

EBWOP:

Set up to me doesn't make sense as a 3 man scum team with the day abilities (2 day cop), doc and all the dead scum being goons.

[FakeGod]

well, if there are 2 scum left, the most obvious pair is Thor + Budja...

But to be honest, I kinda doubt that we have 4-men scum team.

I haven't seen a 4 man scum team in a mini game before.

[Thor665]

TBM - your first angle of discussion is seriously issue with the likelihood of a 3 man scum team?

Doc is weak
doublevoter is weak (and in my opinion slightly anti-town most of the time)
unknown alignment lovers is a bit of a mindscrew and, if we're both town, a liability (in any case - it's not a strong town role, or even a medium strength one)
one shot day cop is a strong role.

Scum needs more then 2 goons + unknown to counter this? Frankly, after writing that all out I'm actually feeling better about Budja just because 2 goons + lover goon actually seems like it would be screwing more with the mafia then should be allowed by making them too weak.

Also, let's be frank - if there are four scum then we are in mylo right now after two correct lynches AND a successful kill block. That would be one of the most broken setups I have ever seen.

We have a 3 man scum team.

[TheButtonmen]

TBM - your first angle of discussion is seriously issue with the likelihood of a 3 man scum team?

VV flip screwed up a lot of my reads until I'm done figuring somethings out I'm not ready to discuss people yet, thus I'm falling back on set-up discussion atm.

[Budja]

That's L-1.
I am perfectly willing to hammer, later.
I don't think FG in that scum-team would make sense.

(On a side note, Fakegod/VV might actually have been right . This is worthless speculation at this point, but I think scum gave out the powers.)

[TheButtonmen]

That's L-1.
I am perfectly willing to hammer, later.

I'd prefer you waited until everyone checked in.

On a side note, Fakegod/VV might actually have been right . This is worthless speculation at this point, but I think scum gave out the powers.)

Hm?

[Budja]

I'm not planning on hammering you, Thor promised a post and Plum has to check in. I probably should have a second look too.

The later was just idle speculation, so I can say "I knew it!" post-game if it happens .