Mini 1036 - DEFCON Mafia - Over

[Calcifer]

WAIT. I DONT SEE THE SUB AS HAVING FIRED.
WHERE IS THE OFFICIAL POST?!?

I can confirm RC doesn't have an active power. Meh.

[SpyreX]

Ok, if you're confused or have questions go like this:

"Well, huh, the failsafe changes nothing if we just lynch him. Lets go ahead and nuke Percy, get the massclaim done AND lynch RC. At that point it'll be easy money cash dancing parties and we can all give SpyreX hi-fives"

[Calcifer]

Answer the Q. I don't see any nukes flying...

[SpyreX]

I don't think its fired yet (hint: who isn't here yet?)

[Calcifer]

I don't think its fired yet (hint: who isn't here yet?)

You basically incriminating everyone who hasn't posted yet? XD

[Zhero]

Technically, it could also be the mod who isn't here. Hard to have a confirmation post without him.

Or the sub is screwing with us?

[Calcifer]

True. AGM does need to be here. But meh. :/

[SpyreX]

No I'm pretty sure Percy is lying and is the sub.

I guess we could play a game of "did anyone take eavesdropper higher than what they got"

[Calcifer]

Hey Zhero, why don't you claim next?
Idk. Who else has to go?
We already have.

[Zhero]

I already claimed.

Percy's claim is basically un-CC'd. If anyone was going to I rally hope they would have by now.

If anyone tried for Eaves on their first or second option and failed, they should speak up, fill in some blanks. Otherwise, I'm highly tempted to assume Percy is the Eavesdropper, unless you think he fakeclaimed just guessing that nobody took the role.

[Calcifer]

Oh. Must have missed it. :/

I put it down as my 3/4th choice. 1st was Radar, 2nd was Espeonage (Cop).

[SpyreX]

I didn't even send it in.

I was Espeonage, Battleship, Aircraft Carrier

[Calcifer]

I need a hug.
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[Zhero]

I forget my choices, it was Aircraft Carrier, and then I think Espionage, Battleship, Sub.

[Zhero]

That said though, with the lack of a counter-claim, do you think Percy lied that much about his role, SpyreX?

[SpyreX]

I could see scum taking it for safety - one of those bait and switches where if a homey has the eavesdrop and he has the sub claiming eavesdrop works since a homey isn't going to counter him.

[Calcifer]

True. Good point. :/

Meh.

[Zhero]

Potentially screws up his homey's fakeclaim though, which is weird considering missile silo is such an obvious sub fakeclaim that I don't know why they'd switch.

Sub claiming eavesdropper means he can never publicly fire his nuke without giving himself away.

[SpyreX]

Ahh, but remember and this will happen:

Any missle silo claim NEEDS to be tested.

[Calcifer]

Ahh, but remember and this will happen:

Any missle silo claim NEEDS to be tested.

So I'm too lazy to look it up.
Do missile silo people only get one shot overall, or just one per day?

[RedCoyote]

Ohh snap that changes everything doesn't it

No, no it doesn't

Of course it doesn't change anything. Nothing I have could "change" my alignment anyways.

What's your angle, anyway? If you think I'm the type to say "Ah, ya got me!", then you're sorely mistaken. I think you need to back off with this and tell us what you really have, because I'm no commie, sir.

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I'm overthinking everything and I'm so god damn confused right now :S

The only "for sure" thing we have right now, I think, is Percy. Doombunny's flip really doesn't make any sense with those QT drops. There are simply too many holes in Percy's story. You pegged him in a corner, he was forced to make a move, and now he's stuck with it.

What other options do we have to go on? I mean, I know I'm speaking from a biased position, but I just don't think Spyrex's investigation is as reliable. Not only do we have to pick whether or not Spyrex is aligned with scum or not (which, admittedly, even I'm still unsure of... this smells more like too-cool-for-school Spyrex than scumSpyrex, but that's just instinct talking), we also have to swallow the fact that he essentially forced Calcifer (and, consequently, you and Percy) to out powers early. This may be a good thing in the sense that we've got Percy in a tough position, but we've also effectively lost both you and the Cop.

Also, did you claim your result yet? I'll have to go back and check on this.

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I can confirm RC doesn't have an active power. Meh.

I have no reason to lie. Then again, I don't know exactly what was going through Papa's mind when he got this. It may have been a secondary or tertiary choice though. Let me ask the Mod what the order was.

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Sub claiming eavesdropper means he can never publicly fire his nuke without giving himself away.

The entire point of the Sub is that they don't have to announce it.

[Zhero]

The entire point of the Sub is that they don't have to announce it.

Only the first time though. Every successive nuke works like normal.

but I just don't think Spyrex's investigation is as reliable.

Um, what do you mean you don't 'think' it's reliable? It's your alignment he's talking about!

[RedCoyote]

Well, if he's scum then none of his investigations are reliable.

Like I said, Zhero, I'm really not convinced he's scum, or else I'd probably be voting him. Spyrex is very much the type to use a confirmed power, which is effectively the case here, to get his will done. I don't think that's a bad move, you know, and it's as good as any if you really feel like you know if someone is scum/town. It's just... not right.

[SpyreX]

Seriously the others have two choices: I am lying or you are lying (or BUS OMG)

You, ultimately, have one choice: I am lying.

Yet, over and over its "ohh gee gosh SpyreX is soo town but"

And if you've got the juevos to say I'd LIE about that I've got nothin.

Sooo, anywho:

So I'm too lazy to look it up.
Do missile silo people only get one shot overall, or just one per day?

I'm talking the other end. If someone says "I've got nukes yo" the answer is "prove it" because if they were lying then they are the dead as per rules.

[SpyreX]

And, yes, it is readily apparent what you are up to and if you guys are silly enough to let me get another result out under the "ohh look he's scum" well more power to you because I'll take that to the bank.