Mini 1036 - DEFCON Mafia - Over

[Calcifer]

Vote: Faraday

Getting failsafe is a scumtell. Scum would love that sub. Failsafe is awesome as second place. I'm not buying the excuses.

Apparently, all our actives got killed off someway. >.<.

Whatever happened to the silos kill whoever the fuck they want plan?

I also don't think that Zhero's claim whether real or not absolves him in anyway. Scum don't need to lie when they don't need to.

[Faraday]

No big admit to being stupid like me.
Called me not mafia though.

Oh no I didn't call myself stupid.


Which head posted the above though?

[Faraday]

Vote: Faraday

Getting failsafe is a scumtell. Scum would love that sub. Failsafe is awesome as second place. I'm not buying the excuses.

What 'excuses'. I didn't make any, I was asked why I chose it? Are you unable to read or something?

And saying getting failsafe is a scumtell is highly moronic.

[Hinduragi]

I think we should see who wants to lynch who at this point. I'm down for Zhero. Im down for a possible Socio or Percy one, but only with if it has a decent case.

Faraday, I thought you called Andrius town for thinking there was only one type of troop deployment?

[Percy]

Out of curiosity, why is the target important? If you're testing the silos you'll confirm my claim in the process anyway, and I'm not sure where the hypothetical scum motive would be here.

If you haven't targetted anyone, or in fact took something else (such as another silo), then you are lying. At this point in time, I have no concrete reason to believe you're telling the truth.

Do you want the silo claims to be tested?

And this may be a moot point, as Sociopath has said he wants to nuke whoever he wants to nuke.

I'm thinking this may be some convenient claiming from Zhero and Sociopath here.

Not seeing Hinduragi as scum with Red.

Agreed.

Hey Hinduragi, would you be willing to nuke as a pseudolynch? We're in MyLo right now, and with a nuke we can make it LyLo and lynch someone after the nuke flip.

I would nuke either Zhero or Sociopath at this point. I think Sociopath's case is weak and his stance on nukes anti-town at best, and I'm thinking Zhero by PoE and claim shenanigans.

[SocioPath]

SocioPath

has received his second prod.

Wow...
That prod was 7 posts away from my last post.

And Sociopath, you're saying I messed up your Doombunny read? What even?

No, I was referring to Hindu and your flooded texts from your role.

Are you sold enough on your case to nuke Hinduragi?

I'll leave that question to the philosophers.

Your instant turn on Doombunny the next day took most of the bite out of it.

What is this?

[Percy]

No, I was referring to Hindu and your flooded texts from your role.

I know I've been very frustrated at people not believing I have Eavesdrop, but this attitude seems like it may be a scumslip.

I'll leave that question to the philosophers.

I'll take that as a no, then...
See, that's what I meant when I said it took the bite out. You had a case against Hindu which seems somewhat contrived, and the next day you switched to Doombunny, and now you're blaming my Eavesdrop results and not developing the case further.

[Zhero]

Out of curiosity, why is the target important? If you're testing the silos you'll confirm my claim in the process anyway, and I'm not sure where the hypothetical scum motive would be here.

If you haven't targetted anyone, or in fact took something else (such as another silo), then you are lying. At this point in time, I have no concrete reason to believe you're telling the truth.

Ah, makes sense. My target was SocioPath.

Do you want the silo claims to be tested?

Yes, preferably Socio first, though his target obviously doesn't matter. Then I'd prefer Hindu to nuke Socio, personally.

Not seeing Hinduragi as scum with Red.

Agreed.

Also agreed. Socio pressing a case on Hind is pretty weak at this stage of the game.

Hey Hinduragi, would you be willing to nuke as a pseudolynch? We're in MyLo right now, and with a nuke we can make it LyLo and lynch someone after the nuke flip.

This is the best plan.

I would nuke either Zhero or Sociopath at this point. I think Sociopath's case is weak and his stance on nukes anti-town at best, and I'm thinking Zhero by PoE and claim shenanigans.

I have to admit I don't know what PoE is. Process of elimination?

I'm with you on Socio though, and I think that with his low level of activity in the game, it'd be better to get a flip from him and clear up an otherwise unreadable variable.

[Percy]

I'd prefer Hindu to nuke Socio, personally.

I agree too.

PoE is process of elimination. At the moment I'm thinking that Calcifer is town, Hindu is probtown, and Faraday is just a little more town than you.

If Sociopath can't nuke, then I'll just say in advance that this doesn't confirm Zhero's claim. If Zhero is scum with Sociopath, then Socio might not even have a silo.

So Hindu, fancy nuking Sociopath? He's at the top of my list.

[Hinduragi]

I'm down for nuking Socio after that excellent D4 case. I want to hear from Calcifer and Faraday about this, though.

[Calcifer]

@ Faraday: VV voted you. I was the part before the cotecount, IIRC.

What do want from us, Hindu? Permission to nuke?

[Percy]

How about an opinion on whether you think Sociopath is scum, first?

[Hinduragi]

^That. You think Im going to let scum just get by on their buddy getting nuked or a town-read not commenting on a pre-lynch?

[AlmasterGM]

[DEFCON Mafia - Day 4, DEFCON 1 - Game Event]

[NORAD SYSTEM] Unidentified transmission detected.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Capturing...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Audio file captured.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Descrambling...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Descramble complete.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Cleaning up file...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Cleanup complete.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Playing...

NO BUS FOR US.

[NORAD SYSTEM] Playback complete.

[Percy]

I also got a result:

NEW PLAN:

WE CAN WIN NOW.

LOOK AT THIS SHIT:

6 PLAYERS?

NUKE NUKE

4 PLAYERS

LYNCH

3 PLAYERS

NIGHT KILL

2 PLAYERS

NO LYNCH

NIGHT KILL

1 PLAYER

WE WIN

The mafia are obviously spamming messages.

I also managed to decode the earlier message.

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I've picked up a handy program that I've used to decode the text. The key is EAJIAEEAJIAE.

WE SHOULD GO FOR PERCY/FARADAY. ON ANOTHER NOTE USE AS LITTLE CAPITALIZATION AND PUNCTUATION AS POSSIBLE EXCEPT WHEN DECIDING LEGIBILITY OF THE MESSAGE SO THAT TOWN HAS NO LEADS IF THIS IS LEAKED

[Faraday]

I think we should see who wants to lynch who at this point. I'm down for Zhero. Im down for a possible Socio or Percy one, but only with if it has a decent case.

Faraday, I thought you called Andrius town for thinking there was only one type of troop deployment?

yeah, I did. I still think that's the case. I think you're town too as said.

It's 2 from [Zhero/Percy/Sociopath] to me.

[Faraday]

I'm down for nuking Socio after that excellent D4 case. I want to hear from Calcifer and Faraday about this, though.

I find his vote on you odd, it's like he's ignoring red's flip. I'd not be against it, although I'd prefer you to nuke Zhero at this time.

[Percy]

I suggest everyone take a look through Red's ISO and Zhero's ISO right after that.

What sticks out most for me are:
. Red calling Zhero his number two scumread, developed into an attack on Zhero - but then followed by rapid pullback and a townread from then on,
. Zhero's D1 play (especially his absence in DEFCON 4),
. Zhero's extremely explanatory attitude towards RedCoyote - the exchanges between them are very superficial,
. Zhero's unvote of RedCoyote at Enigma's suggestion that SpyreX's guilty was a ploy.

I'm also grooving to the Zhero nuking.

I'm going to sleep on it to try and decide who is most likely to be scum (him and Socio, that is). Something tells me they're not scum together - something in Red's interaction with them in his catchup post, it would seem odd to bus them both...

[Zhero]

If Sociopath can't nuke, then I'll just say in advance that this doesn't confirm Zhero's claim. If Zhero is scum with Sociopath, then Socio might not even have a silo.

I asked the mod earlier, and there is an in-game confirmation of the block after the nuke launches. Also, Socio can't fake having a silo thanks to Rule 14.

PoE is process of elimination. At the moment I'm thinking that Calcifer is town, Hindu is probtown, and Faraday is just a little more town than you.

Ah, understood.

. Red calling Zhero his number two scumread, developed into an attack on Zhero - but then followed by rapid pullback and a townread from then on,

Scum targeting a lurker and then pulling back once they started defending themselves. His later play is some heavy buddying that I didn't pick up on at the time.

. Zhero's unvote of RedCoyote at Enigma's suggestion that SpyreX's guilty was a ploy.

I was concerned about quicklynching before allowing the chance for a counterclaim. I also thought that at the speed it was going, the quicklynch was unlikely to stop the sub, and therefore it was better to allow more discussion.


Faraday's play lately has been making me antsy. He makes sure to claim until he's the last claim, and conveniently after the fighter's dead. I'm not sure I trust the fail safe claim. He apparently wanted sub first, but still put fail safe prioritized over a missile silo, so he wanted the sub specifically for its stealth shot, a largely anti-town feature. He then chooses to not counter-claim Red. It just doesn't seem to add up for me.

This:

It's 2 from [Zhero/Percy/Sociopath] to me.

is a bit weak. He's commented over and over that I'm 'prob-scum', but suddenly I'm equally likely alongside someone he's never really commented on at all and someone he had a good town read on a couple days ago. Faraday, what changed your mind on Percy?

[Hinduragi]

So, Calc, Socio, have anything you guys want to say?

Zhero, if you didn't notice, I had the same town-read on Percy a couple days ago. I don't see it as a scumtell. Still, not counter-claiming is disturbing. We have 9 days to deadline, and it takes 3 to nuke, meaning if I nuke today, that's 6 days of discussion for LyLo.

[Hinduragi]

Meaning we need to hurry it up.

[Faraday]

Faraday's play lately has been making me antsy. He makes sure to claim until he's the last claim, and conveniently after the fighter's dead. I'm not sure I trust the fail safe claim. He apparently wanted sub first, but still put fail safe prioritized over a missile silo, so he wanted the sub specifically for its stealth shot, a largely anti-town feature.

Oh god, stop playing dense. Keeping scum away from sub was a huge priority and everyone should have had it as their number 1. But yeah, you can't see that, I just chose it cos i wanted a stealth shot lolsorandum. Already explained why Misile Silo wasn't chosen, which you either ignored or misread (possibly latter due to the following)

He then chooses to not counter-claim Red. It just doesn't seem to add up for me.

Yeah I definitely did back red coyote up after he claimed my role and never tried to get him lynched asap (lol). I'd no idea why he claimed failsafe, wasn't prepared to ask so decided let's kill him and see what his game is.

He's commented over and over that I'm 'prob-scum', but suddenly I'm equally likely alongside someone he's never really commented on at all and someone he had a good town read on a couple days ago. Faraday, what changed your mind on Percy?

A WILD WHAT THE FUCK APPEARS.
I've already indicated I'd prefer you nuked over Socio, in fact you're my first choice. Where is ya getting that you're equally likely from?
Percy's POE scum, I don't see hindu and calcifier as scum at all, so there's a greater chance it's Percy.

[Zhero]

Oh god, stop playing dense. Keeping scum away from sub was a huge priority and everyone should have had it as their number 1. But yeah, you can't see that, I just chose it cos i wanted a stealth shot lolsorandum.

Did you think so at the time? Everyone having sub as their number 1, by your logic, would mean that we'd entirely forsake the cop, the doc, etc.

Already explained why Misile Silo wasn't chosen, which you either ignored or misread (possibly latter due to the following)

What, because it wasn't a passive ability? You couldn't have thought that you couldn't get the silo if you tried for a passive ability, it was the default choice. What did you think would happen if you didn't get your choices?

Yeah I definitely did back red coyote up after he claimed my role and never tried to get him lynched asap (lol). I'd no idea why he claimed failsafe, wasn't prepared to ask so decided let's kill him and see what his game is.

Still, why avoid the massclaim?

A WILD WHAT THE FUCK APPEARS.
I've already indicated I'd prefer you nuked over Socio, in fact you're my first choice. Where is ya getting that you're equally likely from?
Percy's POE scum, I don't see hindu and calcifier as scum at all, so there's a greater chance it's Percy.

Then why is it "It's 2 from [Zhero/Percy/Sociopath] to me." and not "Zhero's scum, Percy or Sociopath along with him."? Or if Percy is just PoE, why not just "Zhero and Sociopath are scum."?

Meaning we need to hurry it up.

Agreed.

[Percy]

Hey Hindu, I say you nuke Socio. I think you and Calcifer are town, and one of Zhero or Faraday are scum with Socio.

On the one hand, I've got my case on Zhero, which I liked better when I wrote it. On the other hand, Faraday is advocating a nuking of Zhero and is ignoring Sociopath almost entirely.

I asked the mod earlier, and there is an in-game confirmation of the block after the nuke launches.

OK. How do you feel about Hinduragi nuking Sociopath?

[SocioPath]

HERE I AM, TESTING SOME CLAIMS.
ABOUT THAT TIME, EH CHAP?
RIGHTO.

NUKE: ZERO