Mafia on Holy Orders (Game Over!)

[Iecerint]

Well, yeah, that's another possibility -- but he didn't forget that one.

[Furcolow]

oh, i just got off work at 11:30, haven't really read pacman's wall TBH. I have him as town, though. I don't really want to get focused in on "he's definitely town", though, so when I have time I should read it.

Get on quicktopic before I have to go in like 5-10 minutes

[Iecerint]

K, answered.

[Furcolow]

quit typing in all caps in there

[Iecerint]

I'm not typing in all caps in there.

[Furcolow]

You were.

[Furcolow]

from my estimate it is likely 7v4, with a scum as !!!!!, so really 6v3 in terms of who can post.
If it is 6v5, however, we have pretty much lost if we do not lynch scum. I don't believe that would be that balanced. If it is 8v3, with a scum as !!!!!!, which I doubt, we are in good shape (which we don't deserve to be as a town), so by my estimate it is 7v4 with a scum !!!!!! and a town !!!!! so 6v3.

If we mislynch, 5v3 (6v4)
they hit, 4v3 (5v4) LyLo tomorrow

[Furcolow]

vote: iecerint

don't believe his lies

[AGar]

This post, this is called an "oh, shit!" post. This is the post of scum who false-claims to buy themselves some time, then doesn't think it all the way through and has no contingency plan.

Sorry, but no. I breadcrumbed my target remember? Have you ever ran up your inbox to full capacity? If so, you'd be able to confirm that trying to see that message is stupid. And there's a lot of players still left in the game, how could I guess that Iecerint had targetted the person whom I believed the be the scummiest player that day in order to NEIGHBORIZE THEM. Think about what you say in context before you post it, please.

Haylen is scum, and the claim was a crock to get her through a day. See the light people, SEE IT.

Again, I breadcrumbed my target. You're really grasping for straws arent you.

Guess what. YOU FUCKED UP.

Point out the T. PURPLE ISN'T IN THE RAINBOW. ROY G BIV MOTHAFUCKA. With ROY G BIV, YOU HIGHLIGHT IECERIN.

WHAT NOW. WHAT. NOW.

@CKD:

Yes, a stab in the dark, absolutely. But assuming that there are more than 2 scum left and Haylen is one, she can actually narrow the pool down quite a bit. 9 of us alive. Let's say 3 scum, since 4:13 seems like a fair and balanced number. Haylen has a 1 in 5 shot of calling the correct person. Assuming she uses the logic that Iec will not target someone who is pushing his lynch hard (pretty logical), and he will not target someone inactive, that eliminates CKD and Plum (and potentially pac). Narrows odds down to 1 in 3. 33% odds aren't too bad.

Seriously, this fake-claim was such a bad attempt to get through to the next day, she FUCKED UP THE BREADCRUMB.

Let's see:

1) She claims "gravedigger" and a "1-shot track"
2) She first says "I received no result," and leaves herself outs. Ignoring the connotation of that line where it could be taken as she physically received a PM saying "No result," she says that.
3) Then, when called on it by Iec, she backtracks. Now, Vi didn't get her PM.^[1]. Then she received a result shortly after and she asks, not definitively says, it was Furc.
4) She ANNOUNCES a day before she is breadcrumbing.
5) She fucks up her own breadcrumb.

[1] - Let's think about this one for JUST ONE MINUTE. We're talking about Vi here. We're not talking about me, or Nikanor or some other mod. We're talking about mother-fucking Vi. God(ess) among men. Do you REALLY believe Vi would let his/her inbox fill up while modding a game, where an action could've been missed? IT IS A LIE. I SWEAR TO ALL THAT IS ME THAT SHE IS LYING THROUGH HER TEETH.

Scum caught. Lynch her dammit.

[Vi]

Vote Count LVIII

~ Watching from above

Iecerint (L-3) ~

Plum,

SocioPath, Furcolow

Chronopie (L-4) ~ curiouskarmadog
Haylen (L-4) ~ AGar
pacman (L-4) ~ Plum

No Lynch (L-5) ~

Furcolow

curiouskarmadog (L-5) ~

Furcolow

Not Voting:

Iecerint, pacman, Haylen, Chronopie

AGar 0 | Chronopie 1 | Furc 0 | Iece 0 | pacman 0 | Plum 0 | ckd 0 | Socio 2 | Haylen 1

-The smell of smoke surrounds Furcolow as of post 1815...

-A small glow surrounds Plum as of post 1820...

-A small glow surrounds Plum as of post 1820...

--With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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(80%)

We're talking about mother-fucking Vi. God(ess) among men.

[curiouskarmadog]

unvote,

agar, does make a good arguement....want to fact check again...the only hang up for me is the shot in the dark

[curiouskarmadog]

also I dont care so much about the purple thing...i mean can you spell anyone else's name in there?.....rereading.

[curiouskarmadog]

vote Haylen.

I think Agar is right....I dont think the mod would have had a full box, especially while modding a game. but even if he did, why did Haylen assume she got a "no result". When did you send in your pick yesterday?

[Haylen]

AGar...there's 8 letters in Iecerint and 7 colours of the rainbow. What do you expect me to do?

Seriously, this is all fucking stupid. MAKE A CASE ON ME. SO I CAN REPLY.

What Agar is saying is rediculous. Basically, you want to lynch me cause Vezok was a VI. This isn't the only game he did that in, trying every game he joined on MS.

He is completely forgetting about the explanation I gave for mistaking my result. I had presumed that I had received 'no result' because I didn't get an PM. Do you usually tell your players if they have been blocked or something similar?

Anyone else think that Furcolow and Iecerint a putting it on a bit? They seem a bit fake to me.

In response to Agar
1) She claims "gravedigger" and a "1-shot track"
~ Correct.
2) She first says "I received no result," and leaves herself outs. Ignoring the connotation of that line where it could be taken as she physically received a PM saying "No result," she says that.
3) Then, when called on it by Iec, she backtracks. Now, Vi didn't get her PM.[1]. Then she received a result shortly after and she asks, not definitively says, it was Furc.
~ Misrep. I never said that Vi didn't get my PM. I said that I didn't get one because my inbox was full, I had to delete PM's before the site would stop holding my PM's back.
4) She ANNOUNCES a day before she is breadcrumbing.
~ Yep. You're point? It's something I learnt on IRC.
5) She fucks up her own breadcrumb.
~ No. You fucked up my breadcrumb.

GO BACK AND READ WHAT I WROTE, CKD.

[Iecerint]

AGar's explanation isn't quite right. HAYLEN's inbox filled up, not Vi's.

[curiouskarmadog]

I have never had an inbox fill or pm someone who had it filled.

I did received "no result", so I conclude that either Iecerint has a hiding ability or there is a roleblocker in the game. If that player is scum, then I was obviously targetted because of my tracking ability and not killed because that would be stupid as I could still be lynched. If that player is town then they will receive a rather pissed off response from me after the game. If that player I town, I will not ask them to make themselves known, just...don't do it again. That was a one shot.

She said she "did receive "no result""....this to me says that she got a PM that said no result

EDIT: Just realised what happened with the Vi's PM. Whenever a person's inbox fills, it says in very small writing that they're role PM's are on hold until they sort it out. Sorry, so sorry, I didn't notice this. I did get a result on Iecerint. He targetted Furcolow. Confirm or deny?

how did you finally "realize" that you had gotten a PM?

[curiouskarmadog]

3) Then, when called on it by Iec, she backtracks. Now, Vi didn't get her PM.[1]. Then she received a result shortly after and she asks, not definitively says, it was Furc.
~ Misrep. I never said that Vi didn't get my PM. I said that I didn't get one because my inbox was full, I had to delete PM's before the site would stop holding my PM's back.
4) She ANNOUNCES a day before she is breadcrumbing.
~ Yep. You're point? It's something I learnt on IRC.
5) She fucks up her own breadcrumb.
~ No. You fucked up my breadcrumb.

GO BACK AND READ WHAT I WROTE, CKD.

for three..you said "I received" a no result...not...I didnt recieve anything so I assume it was a no result.

[curiouskarmadog]

also enough of the breadcrumb..I dont really care..I believe she did correctly breadcrumb what her intentions...

AGAR, can you spell any other players in that crumb?...no...so why are you harping on that?

[Haylen]

I have never had an inbox fill or pm someone who had it filled.

Then I suggest you get someone to spam you really really fast so you can get what I mean here.

When you're inbox gets full the '0 new messages' turns into 'x new messages'. Then you go into your inbox and you think 'wtf' because you wont have any new unread messages there. Then you'll wonder what's happened and decide it must be refering to messages you have unread from ages ago, so you leave it for a while. About a day or two later you'll remember that the same thing happened to you a month or two ago and you finally remember that in really tiny writing it tells you your messages are on hold cause your inbox is full. You'll delete some messages and find the PM's you've been looking for.

Yes, I perceived receiving no message as receiving 'no result'.

I would love to know why AGar is strawmanning so badly.

[curiouskarmadog]

did the mod send you an email stating that your choice had been received?

[curiouskarmadog]

email=pm

[Haylen]

Yes. I did receive a PM in receipt of my choice.

[Vi]

Vote Count LIX

~ Standoff

Iecerint (L-3) ~ SocioPath, Furcolow
Haylen (L-3) ~ AGar, curiouskarmadog

pacman (L-4) ~ Plum

Chronopie (L-5) ~

curiouskarmadog

Not Voting:

Iecerint, pacman, Haylen, Chronopie,

curiouskarmadog

AGar 1 | Chronopie 2 | Furc 1 | Iece 0 | pacman 1 | Plum 1 | ckd 0 | Socio 3 PROD1 0 | Haylen 0

-SocioPath is being prodded...

-The smell of smoke surrounds Haylen as of post 1771...
--With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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(70%)

[pacman281292]

I have never had an inbox fill or pm someone who had it filled.

I did received "no result", so I conclude that either Iecerint has a hiding ability or there is a roleblocker in the game. If that player is scum, then I was obviously targetted because of my tracking ability and not killed because that would be stupid as I could still be lynched. If that player is town then they will receive a rather pissed off response from me after the game. If that player I town, I will not ask them to make themselves known, just...don't do it again. That was a one shot.

She said she "did receive "no result""....this to me says that she got a PM that said no result

I adressed this point in my 1822. It does bug me a lot as well.
It's important IMO, but might be indeed a redaction mistake. However, there are some points that make me feel uneasy as well (all adressed in post 1822)

[Plum]

Hmmmm.

Vi, you have Haylen both voting herself and not voting. Que?

The solution should be obvious, but fixed. ~Vi

It all comes down to me not believing the GRAVEDIGGER ability. I mean. Socrates got Tracker. Iec got some kind of Neighborizer. Both are vaguely standard. Standardish roles involving communication, investigating - not on

guessing who is gonna get killed

.

I just doublechecked, and I think I actually got the ability D3, so, uh, totally nevermind. Eww. <_<

It was late September 7th.

I'm a Neighborizer. I targeted Socrates after I got the ability. That's why I raged lots when he died and called it a crumb.

I was looking through your posts and am trying to line up when abilities got received. Haylen claimed her ability was received as of a certain post (one of the Votecounts). You didn't get this, but could you ask Vi if there is a post as of when you received it? Thanks.

Furc is Town. We're not questioning this; it's threadbased but it's true. People doubting Furc need to redirect their energies.

It's occured to me that we never tried to lynch !!!!!!!!, just !!!!!!!!!!. There's a difference - that said I doubt there's that much difference . . .

Plum calls for town unity in her 656, all in bold. I, despite being in Plum's scumlist, totally endorse that post.

Then why did you never write up a 3 scumreads/1 Townread list like I asked? Or did I miss it somewhere?

As much as I'd hate to say it . . . Pacman being scum with mothrax is a little less likely than I'd like to think.

Vezok is confirmed town, everyone unvote. (There is actually exactly one scenario where Vezo is scum, but it is incredibly unlikely.)

I

still

have no clue what this circumstance is and Haylen has shed no light on the mystery. Blargh.

CKD, i need

as much info

re: your Iec read and how it's been evolving ASAP. Also what changed or whatever between these two posts:

not going to vote quite yet....also want to look over friend and moth again....should be voting today or tomorrow.

I think Furcolow is a bad vote,

also dont like people pointing to flavor (or an unknown mechanic) to indicate scumminess (friend).

going to put my vote here for now....

vote mothrax

, not liking his play..

??????????

Unvote; Vote: mothrax

I guess.

FREE ANSWER QUESTIONS (THESE ARE

NOT

RHETORICAL):

1. Would mothrax say this if pacman was his scumbuddy, after Soc's soft counterclaim or whatever of mothrax? Explain using your own words.

The best thing we can do right now is all shut up,

don't

talk about anyone else, and speedlynch mothrax ASAP.

so you want to deprive town of more information?
At least pacman is being sensible and not just taking socrates for his word...

2. Friend (flipped Town) received information presumably from one of the !!!!!!! players. The information implied that Vezok lied about his Day 2 ability (indicated vezok/Haylen scum). Grave Robber is not similar to Tracker or Neighorizer (and yes, one-shot Neighborizer is the standard, not the variation, so). However, her Track of Iecerint was in fact accurate, as far as we know. Apply Occam's Razor to this problem and explain whether it more strongly imples Haylen-scum or Haylen-Town.

WE'RE NOT GONNA LYNCH CHRONOPIE. DUDE. Also not AGar, Furc.

ALSO. Town alliance those 4? Call me.