Mafia on Holy Orders (Game Over!)

[Haylen]

I have sent my paraphrase in to Vi to make sure it's ok.

[Haylen]

EBWOP: I have also already made a rather lengthy paraphrase of my ability.

[Haylen]

Vi seems to think this is slightly sleazy, but she's OK'd it:

It starts with a bit centered in caps in the middle with green font and tildes that implies our !!!!!!!!!s are doing something. Then it says I was given an ability by someone. Then the ability is explained in a quote box. The ability is italicized and in blue while the rest is normally written.

There's also a parenthetical clarification added at the end that lets me know that the ability resolves at the end of each day, since the quote box definition itself kind of implies that I would get a QT with my target instantaneously.

There are between 0 and 3 errors in the above. Haylen's turn. I'd like her to stipulate what the errors are in this description, if any.

The OK'd Stuff.

Well for a start, you made a mistake with the colours, there are none! I agree with the double dashes if you're calling them tildes now, the caps and the centres. The title is bolded. Then there's something about getting an ability which is shown in a quote box and the name is italicised. There is no clarification added at the end. The abilities name isn't set up in the CORRECT way we quote in threads, it is just italicized with a dash then the description.

[Iecerint]

Confirming follow-up with Vi.

[Iecerint]

The intended errors were that they were double dashes, not tildes; that the first text was black, not green; and that the ability text was black, not blue. She caught all of those.

Her extra details that I didn't try adding are also accurate.

I'm guessing that that last point is to indicate that the quoted thing doesn't specify a player or party being quoted? If so, that's accurate, too.

One thing worth adding is that I had already said that my ability was blue in my QT with Furc. It came up because he was making some speculation about "blue" roles (like Soc's), and I corrected him by saying that my ability wasn't blue.

[Furcolow]

Oic there's pro-town alliance talks going on.

I agree.

::Now proxy-ing vote to plum::

i am proxy-ing vote to plum on the condition it is not on pacman
i disagree with plum, and would side with iecerint over haylen, as he has been telling the truth about two things i can confirm whilst haylen seems a little aloof as to the flavor of the actions, which could possibly be because her actions come from the evil one of the !!!!!!!

[Chronopie]

So plum is in control of three votes, provided They aren't aimed at a) Pacman, or b) Haylen

(without good reason.)

[Plum]

Hey, I don't need your votes proxied to me specifically. Furcolow is actually the most cleared of all of us, given mothrax's behavior. But that's moot. Having said that, I'd absolutely love to hear what's been going on in that Neighbor quicktopic. Scratch that: if there's even an official way to proxy your votes to me, don't be doing it now.

AND now where's CKD? I NEED the info on his evolving Iec reads from yesterday through today with as much detail as possible ASAP.

HAYLEN I

need

some insight from you regarding what Socrates said when Vezok claimed Day 3:

Vezok is confirmed town, everyone unvote. (There is actually exactly one scenario where Vezo is scum, but it is incredibly unlikely.)

Between this and your Furcolow Track I am disinclined to lynch you. However. Friend's info strongly suggests that you/Vezok lied about the ability you received Day 2. That's bad. If you

can

clear it up we'll all be happier.

P.S. It's okay I guess pacman won't be on the chopping block. Probably still a good idea but I dunno, now, do I?

[Plum]

That said I don't recall pacman posting a whole lot of substance recently. Urgh.

[SocioPath]

That said I don't recall pacman posting a whole lot of substance recently. Urgh.

EBWOP: At my 1776 I do post some scumreads, but mostly based on skim-reads, and my former "official" scum reads, which are stated in post 1663.

Keep standing on your fence.

did you even read those posts? no? then don't come here with flaff and read.
stop lurking. if you actually do feel suspicious of someone, speak now or STFU forever.
dammit...

COME ON PLUM.
LEARN TO READ.

[Haylen]

Unless I am completely missing something, then I would presume that Socrates had tracked Vezok and had found he didn't go anywhere and that the only way that could be incorrect would be if Vezok was an action immune Godfather or something like that :/

[Chronopie]

Ninja?

[Plum]

Unless I am completely missing something, then I would presume that Socrates had tracked Vezok and had found he didn't go anywhere and that the only way that could be incorrect would be if Vezok was an action immune Godfather or something like that :/

That makes no sense in context. First of all, presumable there are other scums who could submit the kill or whatever - a null Track doesn't clear anyone anyway. Second of all, Socrates said that Vezok was nigh-confirmed Town

after

Vezok claimed he received an ability Day 2. That means

something about the claim itself

made it clear that Vezok was Town barring one unlikely but apparently specific circumstance.

[Haylen]

I don't know, then. Really, I don't - that's the only thing I think of.

[Plum]

This is getting nowhere innit.

That said I cannot trust you. Your team might have a Track ability somewhere if you're Mafia or something, so. Friend the Townie had info which indicates you/Vezok are lying. That would indicate scum. I need you to say something which might convince me to disregard that.

[Haylen]

Is there anything that I have said or done that makes you believe I might be scum, or is it all Vezok?

[Iecerint]

Maybe Soc got an ability D1 and assumed that town folk got abilities each day? Plus a negative track?

Though I'd assumed that he started out with his ability cuz his was blue and mine wasn't.

The weird thing is that vez acted like he KNEW that Soc had an ability IIRC. He was like U KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

[Iecerint]

I'm still inclined to lynch SP atm btw, because I think he's scum with whoever the other 2-3 are.

[Plum]

Is there anything that I have said or done that makes you believe I might be scum, or is it all Vezok?

NO.

STOP.

ALL THIS TIME.

YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSING ANYONE ACCUSING YOU OF ONLY PLAYING ATTENTION TO VEZOK'S SCUMMINESS.

THAT'S SCUMMY.

I suspect you because Friend's info suggests that the claim is a lie, and because PoE points to Vezok's spot on the mothrax wagon as one of the most suspect belonging to living players. Both. It's not just Vezok. That said you haven't done anything much to ameliorate this.

@Iecerint

- Maybe ask Vi what your rolename would flip as if you got killed? You may be assuming you're not Neighborizer in blue or whatever but really are or something, I dunno. Also, what's your take on who was scummy with the mothrax wagon(s)? What about Socrates' musings and conclusions thereon?

[Haylen]

@ Plum - AAh, I see. You can stop yelling now ^_^ I've been accusing some people of that because most of the time it is because Vezok was being a nitwit. If Friend's info suggests the claim is a lie then if one of the !!!'s is scum, it must've come from them.

[Plum]

Then why'd Friend get shot yesterday?

Your accusations that people attacking you did so because of Vezok was a complete strawman - a really horrid nonreason to deflect any potential attacks. ARGH.

[Iecerint]

OK, I PM'd her.

idk, I haven't really looked back there in much detail to be honest. I can do it more after Tuesday; I have a big exam coming up. I think a reasonable person could come to Soc's conclusion that there is scum in CKD/Iec (and conclude CKDscum from my perspective) -- but the fact that CKD voted at such a pivotal moment with a proxy'd vote isn't something I would expect against a scumfriend. This is something I've said over and over, but ye know.

I do think that CKD's "case" on me yesterday was very crap (well, it wasn't even really a case), but the fact that M=W was town makes it less scummy than otherwise.

[Haylen]

@ Plum - Not really...it's hardly my fault Vezok's play was VI. It just really winds me up when someone replaces into a game and rather than find that person scummy for what they've done, they find them scummy cause of what the person they replaced did. So there is a possibility that I overreacted, it's one of my peeves...just like when people don't put a space between @ and a playername.

[Plum]

...

Whatever. VI-ness and place/method of getting onto a wagon aren't the same thing.

[Vi]

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