StrangerCoug's Worst Nightmare IIIS: The Dungeon (Game over)

[Parama]

oh hi there mafia janitor i'm sorry but we can't be friend

vote: Nobody Special

for being unspecial and... NORMAL.

[Parama]

OH GOD THE LANGUAGE PR IS BACK
*checks babelfish*
Italian this time it seems.

[Parama]

I'm going to take a page from Ellibereth's book here.

Town:
Mafuyu
Antihero

Null:
Me=Weird
Espeonage

Scum:
LLD
smargaret

Can't translate atm:
chesskid3

Haven't Posted:
Everyone else

Call me when we stop discussing post restrictions, please.

[Parama]

Town:
Mafuyu
Espeonage
Antihero

Null:
Twomz
Tasky
Reckamonic
Me=Weird
smargaret

Scum:
sakshijain
Baby Spice
LLD

Can't translate atm:
chesskid3

Haven't Posted:
Everyone else

Oh, if you didn't notice, yes I have a post restriction, but you can hardly notice it. Not.
At least it's not a language one.

Vote Chesskid3

^this is opportunistic bandwagoning

VOTE: chess aah i just can't read his posts so i vote him.

^this is opportunistic bandwagoning

I'm afraid to ask, but can you provide reasoning for these? Or is it just a list you threw together half assed, to make it look like you were contributing?

Thanks for solidifying my scum read on you.

unvote, vote: LLD

These reads are blatantly obvious if you actually pay attention to each person's posting.

[Parama]

Town:
The Stove
Mafuyu
Espeonage
Twomz
Antihero

Null:
Tasky
Reckamonic
Me=Weird
smargaret

Scum:
sakshijain
Baby Spice
LLD

Can't translate atm:
chesskid3

Haven't Posted:
Everyone else

[Parama]

Mafuyu is going to assume that's your PR.

I don't have a post restriction.

[Parama]

Town:

The Stove
Mafuyu
Espeonage
Twomz
Antihero

Null:

Me=Weird
Tasky
Reckamonic
Nero Cain
Nobody Special
chesskid3
smargaret

Scum:

sakshijain
Baby Spice
LLD

Haven't Posted:
Everyone else

EVERYONE ON THIS LIST:
bhavitgoyal
Blooderection
Framm 18
manho
Nero Cain
Nobody Special
Reckamonic
smargaret
Tasky

Please post more so I can read you. Some of these people have yet to post, the rest need to up the content level.

Also google translator is hilarious

In essence, foam / scum entire city can be found by how they act - are usually more defensive because they know that the city is the city while the city is sending out probes everywhere to hear people. Overreact to these probes and also for events that occur are a particular favorite of mine.

Side note: EM sucks now, LLD. I played for a while earlier this year, but... every single player there is just godawful now. Sigh.

[Parama]

Please don't quote my entire post just to respond to one line.

[Parama]

lol 6 votes on chesskid
...5 names...
...blooderection hasn't even posted...


@M=W: yes

[Parama]

Mod: Are you 100% positive that vote count is correct?

[Parama]

SC had you voting chesskid before you had even posted <_<

[Parama]

I don't know about that since it got a reaction.

Orly.

And what have you learned from the "reaction"?

That you and Parama are both scum.

unvote

hahahahah Antihero = confirmed town

[Parama]

I don't know about that since it got a reaction.

Orly.

And what have you learned from the "reaction"?

That you and Parama are both scum.

unvote

hahahahah Antihero = confirmed town

Hahaha xD you're so scum

Hahahaha /ignores

[Parama]

Town:

The Stove
Mafuyu
Espeonage
Twomz
Antihero
Reckamonic
Blooderection

Null:

Me=Weird
Tasky
Nobody Special
chesskid3
smargaret

Scum:

sakshijain
Baby Spice
Nero Cain
LLD

Haven't Posted:
Everyone else

EVERYONE ON THIS LIST:
bhavitgoyal
Framm 18
manho
Nobody Special
smargaret
Tasky

Since Chess is bussing I have no problem riding.

^This is Nero bussing LLD

parama is scum for too many lists. She's constantly posting lists. It's the too townie argument. some of it is gut though too. it just looks like she's trying too hard to appear town.

I'm one of the few people the too town fallacy works on but these lists are totally in good intention. I'm willing to call you misguided town, though. IIRC you're a hydra of some random guy and BC? The one posting is probably the former.

[Parama]

Absolutely. Mafuyu, have you ever played with Ellibereth before?

[Parama]

NO.
NERO BUSSED THE HELL OUT OF LLD. LLD DIES.

[Parama]

Mod: Just for future reference, VCs should be reset after daykills, especially when the threshold to lynch could be changed. For example, if LLD had been at L-1 and Nero wasn't on the wagon when he was killed, LLD would've also been lynched as a result, which is unfair.
Then again this is a bastard mod game so maybe I should just learn to deal with it. Not like I would've cried about a LLD lynch anyways <.<

[Parama]

Town:

The Stove
Mafuyu
Twomz
Antihero
Reckamonic
Blooderection

Null:

Me=Weird
Tasky
Framm 18
Nobody Special
chesskid3
Espeonage
smargaret

Scum:

sakshijain
Baby Spice

Nero Cain

LLD

Haven't posted:
bhavitgoyal
manho


P.S. - Anyone who hasn't posted yet is vigbait tonight. Framm needs to post content, as well.

[Parama]

^this is scum not even trying to defend herself

[Parama]

So you're saying we shouldn't lynch a VT claim day 1? That's funny... because usually we don't lynch claimed cops and shit.

gg.

Well... would you rather lynch scum fakeclaiming a PR or town claiming VT?

[Parama]

Town:

The Stove
Antihero
Mafuyu
Twomz
Reckamonic

Null:

Me=Weird
Framm 18
Nobody Special
chesskid3
Tasky
Espeonage
smargaret

Scum:

sakshijain
Baby Spice
LLD
Blooderection

Nero Cain

Haven't posted:
bhavitgoyal
manho

unvote, vote: Blooderection

[Parama]

LLD's reaction = town
Blood's wagonhop = scum

[Parama]

Don't think there's enough to go on yet.

>9 pages
>Not enough to go on

???

yeah Baby Spice is also scum

[Parama]

Reconsidering a few things here...

Town:

The Stove
Antihero
Mafuyu
Twomz
Espeonage
chesskid3
Reckamonic

Null:

Me=Weird
Framm 18
LLD
Tasky
smargaret
Nobody Special

Scum:

sakshijain
Baby Spice
Blooderection

Nero Cain

Haven't posted:
bhavitgoyal
manho

[Parama]

Don't think there's enough to go on yet.

>9 pages
>Not enough to go on

Nice quote out of context there Parama. In your case though there's plenty to go on.

VOTE: Parama

Thanks for telling me all your evidence against me.

Also that's not out of context what are you talking about

[Parama]

VOTE COUNT

Blooderection (2): Parama, Antihero
Baby Spice (1): The Stove

Cool kids vote these wagons.

[Parama]

Yes. The bottom two are leaning scum, the top is leaning town, and the other 3 need to post more so they can stop being completely neutral.

Blood, that's hardly an OMGUS.

[Parama]

"hahahaha I just noticed CN had only two seats in this thread before it dayvigged. ahahahahahah"

I <3 Google Translator

/pointless post

[Parama]

this game is going way to fast for me. don't have enough time.
so expect me to lurk a little.
don't let that distract you.

If you find scum, tell me.

You need to stop joining so many games, then.

Mafuyu, vote Baby or BE. Both are totally valid wagons.
P.S. You've played with Elli in Al-habet Mafia.

[Parama]

Because I forgot about that game when I asked.
Anyways I'm kinda stealing from Elli's meta this game with all the lists so yeah

[Parama]

Unvote:
Vote: Baby Spice

busbusbusbusbusbusbus

[Parama]

Anyways I'm kinda stealing from Elli's meta this game with all the lists so yeah

If you want to pretend to be Ellibereth that's fine I guess, but even Ellibereth scumhunts now and then. Try it.

>accusation that I'm not scumhunting
>my face in response:

[Parama]

Hmm, manho apparently has the same PR that MafiaSSK had last game (must violate Rule 6 in every post).

List of known post restrictions:
manho - Rule 6
Baby Spice - Grey
chesskid - Italian
Twomz - random one-liner at the start of each post (confirm? it's quite obvious you're post restricted but I can't tell exactly how)

don't think there's anymore but I could be wrong
no more post restriction discussion beyond this post unless you're:
A. Twomz response
B. I missed a PR and someone tells me this

[Parama]

I'm scumhunting. Your definition of scumhunting is off.

[Parama]

Yeah I agree Twomz, LLD has all but disappeared recently :/

Updating PR list:
manho - Rule 6
Baby Spice - Grey
chesskid - Italian
Twomz - Gir

Haven't missed any other ones unless bhavitwhatever has a PR but hasn't posted yet.

[Parama]

For future reference:
In an impossible scenario where BS is scum and BE isn't, Tasky is scum with BS.
I say impossible scenario because both BE and BS are scum, but we can only lynch one today :<

[Parama]

I had missed a vote, guys. Sorry.

BASTARD MODDI- oh wait.

My list at the end of yesterday:

Town:

The Stove
Antihero

Mafuyu

Twomz
Espeonage
chesskid3
Reckamonic

Null:

Me=Weird
Framm 18
xvart
manho
LLD
Tasky
smargaret
Nobody Special

Scum:

Toon Fighter

Baby Spice

Blooderection

Nero Cain

BE still needs to die. Dayvig guy can you take care of him for us? :>

[Parama]

N1 reveals are SC's mortal enemy

[Parama]

That reminds me.

Vote: Tasky

Nice fast hammer you got der.

*accidental fast hammer

[Parama]

I thought the mod said that he had missed an earlier vote. Unless I'm misreading something? .-.

[Parama]

Town:

The Stove
Antihero

Mafuyu

Twomz
Espeonage
chesskid3
Reckamonic

Null:

Me=Weird
Framm 18
xvart
manho
LLD
Tasky
smargaret

Nobody Special

Scum:

Toon Fighter

Baby Spice

Blooderection

Nero Cain

OKAY THAT ONE IS CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE SCUM LIST FOR ME TO BE RIGHT. JUST CONSIDER HIM TAKING THE SPOT THAT BS LEFT EMPTY.
Dayvig guy, you done well even if I told you to kill someone else.
I am going to reread in light of flips and tell you all who the remaining scum are afterwards. TOMORROW. Because I need to sleep.

[Parama]

vote: Blooderection

placeholder until I get my reread done

[Parama]

MOD: Votecount please.

[Parama]

Oh by the way I'd like to have both killing roles accounted for, because one of them's a SK. Most definitely. There's a SK in a SWN game, shock and awe. Pretty sure it's the night one, because Mafuyu had town reads on her while the daykills did not.

[Parama]

If you have a reason not to lynch BE today, you should claim why. Otherwise I am ignoring you.

[Parama]

I'm thinking

Parama

is the SK.

I wouldn't be putting any effort into this game if I was the SK, just sayin'

And obviously I need to write walls to justify each of my town reads NO.

[Parama]

My #2 scum pick hasn't posted since they replaced in. And what you are telling us is not enough to make me change my mind.

Parama

believes BE to be scum because of the wagon hop to LL (201). While not part of the original case, Parama did note that BE's vote on Baby Spice was a bus (274), that it is impossible for BE and BS to not be scum. Well, we know Baby Spices alignment, so pardon me while I disregard all of your alleged "scumhunting" and strong "case building" this game.

I was wrong on 1 and right on two, but being wrong on one lets you discredit all my other reads? Lolno.

Parama

(post 186) - I don't understand this post. Town claiming VT or scum fakeclaiming? Talk about a false dichotomy, as proven by the lynch flip. What was your intention with this post?

You can't read, obviously. It was a hypothetical question: Say player A is scummy, and player B is scummier. Both are pushed up to claim. Player A is a townie and he claims townie. Player B is scum and claims a power role. Wouldn't you rather lynch the fakeclaiming scum over the townie?

Parama

(post 284) - I agree with The Stove. What you are doing is not scumhunting. You are emulating a recognizable playstyle and making some passing comments. Unless you think that your vote of BE because he voted for LL after claiming VT qualifies as "scumhunting." Let me just tell you how thrilled I am that I am going to have to ask and demand and beg for explanations of read changes just like I do with Elli and Drippereth.

I justified all my scum reads IIRC. I don't need to justify town or null reads because I don't want to lynch someone I don't have a scum read on.

I'm thinking

Parama

is the SK.

>SK theory starts being discussed
>xvart attacks one of the players who started the discussion of SK theory
>xvart is grasping at straws

[Parama]

Lady Lambdadelta (9):

Mafuyu

, Parama, Espeonage, Me=Weird, Antihero, Twomz, Reckamonic,

Nobody Special

, chesskid3, (

Nero Cain

)

Hmm.... There's 1 more scum max on this wagon, I'd think.

[Parama]

Antihero is town <_<

[Parama]

And obviously I need to write walls to justify each of my town reads NO.

No, but you obviously are stating someone is town for a reason, so you better be able to back that up if questioned.

And who's asking?

I was wrong on 1 and right on two, but being wrong on one lets you discredit all my other reads? Lolno.

No, but my point was when you post no substantial information about your reads, and one of your reads turns up wrong, I'm less likely to put a lot of stock into your reads and whatever alleged "scumhunting" you are doing to support those reads.

Who said I posted no substantial information?

You can't read, obviously. It was a hypothetical question: Say player A is scummy, and player B is scummier. Both are pushed up to claim. Player A is a townie and he claims townie. Player B is scum and claims a power role. Wouldn't you rather lynch the fakeclaiming scum over the townie?

And in your hypothetical how is a town member to know that player B is scum fake claiming? That is a false dillema as the other option is the person being strung up could be town claiming the actual role he/she was given.

You're missing the point. Player B is seen as scummier than Player A by the town, but Player B claims a PR and Player A claims VT. Player B is scum, which is why he looks scummier. Would you rather lynch the scummier PR or the less scummy VT?
I might have been phrasing it badly before. This is incredibly off-topic anyways.

[Parama]

What pro-town reason is there to not lynch scum?
I'm not listening to a word you say unless you can tell us WHY he's going to die tonight.

[Parama]

^totally awful vote

[Parama]

Unvote Vote LLD

Mafuyu is interested.

Eh... safe to say LLD isn't scum IMO.

Mafuyu is going to assume that's your PR.

Hey guys, if I was scum, Mafuyu would know if I had a PR and what it was, right?

NS - was that a random vote or a serious one?

NS has done that in 75% of the games he's played with Mafuyu. Almost word for word too.

Ooh, so this is why NS was obvscum with Mafuyu.

....are you

sure

the lists aren't part of a PR?

see my own reason for not being mafia above, basically the same thing

As much as it's amusing to know you're reading Jabberwocky en italiano, are you doing anything other than evading the prodgun right now chess?

I dunno whether to call this a weak bus or a weak attack on a townie. Meh.

This is why good players preview our posts prior to hitting Submit.

LLD isn't scum. Just sayin'.

Stop telling me what to do, I don't play according to other people's whims.

Also, I fully agree with Espeo -- this is going to be one frakking hard game. (Plus, I feel all fish-out-of-waterish -- I wasn't in SWNIII.)

Reck/dram, am I, really? I'm not trying to be. Sorry.

unvote

Vote: Lady Greekletters

1. Antihero isn't scum.
2. Espe gets scumpoints
3. Reckamonic gets scumpoints
4. LLD is town

this game is going way to fast for me. don't have enough time.
so expect me to lurk a little.
don't let that distract you.

If you find scum, tell me.

This is the SECOND GAME in which you've posted this.

I think I'm on my way to hating you. Don't push me.

(Sadi the active lurker.)

Hmm... I could see Tasky-scum from this post. Really weak attack and it's more a personal attack than anything.

VOTE: Blooderection

UNVOTE: mah vote
VOTE: Blooderection

No votes or unvotes between those two posts, so why?

Damn. I wish I'd noticed this.

Scum often forget (whether legitimately or not) where there vote is. I need to take some time and re-read Espe in iso and see what's there (or, you know, NOT there).

Huh. Interestingly enough I don't know what to make of this. He never does this and the attack is a pretty weak one anyways.

Updating lists, taking off all flips at this point in time.

Town:

Antihero
The Stove
LLD
Twomz
smargaret

Null:

Me=Weird
Espeonage
chesskid3
Framm 18
Toon Fighter
manho
Reckamonic

Scum:

xvart
Tasky
Blooderection

Additional notes:
Smarg interactions with NS here coupled by smarg voting NS later leads me to believe she's town.
manho's ISO is broken such that I will probably never be able to get a solid read on him unless I read from beginning to end, but the math stuff that was happening yesterday was a whole lot of nothing. That chesskid felt happy to waste time with.
Reckamonic hasn't done... much of anything. Weak attacks, weak votes, and it doesn't look like they're trying to scumhunt.
I made the scumpool a bit bigger but BE is still the lynch for today IMO.

[Parama]

Yes xvart, see my sig. I play to my town meta as SK. I play to my town meta as mafia, too ^.^

[Parama]

I'm playing to my town meta. I mean, my role PM told me I was town, so I can't help but play to my town meta.

[Parama]

Ignore: chesskid3

[Parama]

See: Sig. =/

Best BAH post ever.

[Parama]

It's pretty damn easy to replace a corpse if you ask me

[Parama]

You botched the reveal AGAIN.

[Parama]

vote: Me=First

I read the case and I agreee with it

Yeah you're staying in my scum reads.

[Parama]

I WAS voting him yesterday.

[Parama]

let's not lynch before a claim this time

[Parama]

let's not lynch before a claim this time

let's not lynch before a claim this time

let's not lynch before a claim this time

let's not lynch before a claim this time

let's not lynch before a claim this time

RECK/DRAM. WHY CAN'T YOU READ.

[Parama]

Thank god.
I want a claim and reactions to claim before hammering. because BE will flip scum but

[Parama]

Just lynch the slot so SC doesn't have to replace him. The slot's doomed anyways. And it's a scum slot.

ALSO YAY GLITCHY POSTING

[Parama]

mothrax: Self vote.

[Parama]

I know you two aren't THAT useless <_<

[Parama]

@MOD: I request replacement.

Sorry, school has gotten really busy and I am not able to devote as much time as is needed to keep up with the larger games.

You should've done this sooner IMO.

[Parama]

There's tons of people who need prods, I'd think.

[Parama]

LYNCH MOTH I DON'T GET PRODDED

[Parama]

I think Chrono just claimed scum. <_<

Somewhat kidding, but...

AGar, I'm afraid that, in the rush to prepare to fight the invaders of Dreamland Castle, I lost part of your role. I do remember that you're Mafia with MafiaSSK, Katsuki, Parama, and xvart and that you win with them, but I can't tell you anything else about it. Here is the QuickTopic thread so you can talk to them—maybe they can help.

You win when all remaining players in Dreamland are the Mafia or nothing can prevent the same. Most dreams start at night, and so does this game (yep—I've reverted back)—meaning that you can die without even posting.

Please PM me back acknowledging that you understand and confirm your (lack of a) role. The thread is here.

inb4 Mod-WIFOM

[Parama]

Read: StrangerCoug's Worst Nightmare III

S

[Parama]

Anti: I'm completely ignoring the claim, I just figured it was worth noting.

[Parama]

^Explain this BS please.

We still need to lynch mothrax. Because I know I'm right

[Parama]

There's no reason to build a case on Toon; sakshijain made probably the single scummiest post in the thread <_<

[Parama]

unvote, vote: sakshijain

That lost role thing was seriously weird. I want it better explained.

I am framing this post. It is amazing on so many levels. It shall forever hang upon my wall.

[Parama]

Yes, we know, Chrono <.<

BUT GUESS WHAT? Moth is scum as well. We can lynch one scum today and one scum tomorrow :>

[Parama]

While we're on the subject of "too many replacements"...
9 Replacements in a Mini
14 Replacements in a Large Normal

*is patiently waiting for a mothrax lynch and will do nothing until mothrax is dead*

[Parama]

Town:

Tasky
The Stove
LLD
smargaret

Null:

Antihero
Twomz
Me=Weird
Espeonage
chesskid3
Chronopie
xvart
manho
Reckamonic

Scum:

Toon Fighter

I'm thinking I need to reread a bit. My reads are all screwed up atm. I want to see what Toon Fighter flips before anything else. If he flips mafia goon, I'm putting my life savings on all daykills being deathmillerized. If he flips town (HAHAHA you jest.) or mafia PR then I'll be happier with all current flips. I really want to believe all the flips and my gut is telling me to do so, but I'm not sure.

[Parama]

You were quite obvious town in the event of a moth townflip due to that ability thing you claimed.
I'm waiting for the daykiller to show up and put a bullet in Toon's brain. Or something accomplishing the same end, at least.

[Parama]

Been seeing a lot of baseless accusations and your tone seems off IMO.

[Parama]

I'm shocked that you care so much about being moved from town to townish-null. All I'm gonna say on the matter.

[Parama]

DAYKILLER, WHERE ART THOU?

[Parama]

I refuse.

[Parama]

Rather, I've already said all there is to say on the matter.

[Parama]

OKAY THAT SETTLES IT.

We have 3 flipped mafia goons :>
Nacho, are you the daykiller?

[Parama]

Parama:

How did I go to "null" parama?

same question here

Not by chance, fuck math. This is not scumhunt the PRS, this is scumhunt who is frothy. If we are a real problem then you can start vigging us one by one. 3 PR because they have political lynching PRS is the last city in the first post- Antihero was semi-tunneling on me the whole game, no one else noticed? I am not active in mathematics lurking I'm fucking posting in Italian. In reality, the fact that he does while he is voting for me to believe that BE is trying to set up another guy who speaks on misslynch Italian.

Vote: Antihero

I have explained it. Here. Here. And here.

Not satisfactorily. You pretty much dismissed it in your last one.

chesskid, you're continuing to be belligerent and you keep victimizing yourself for your PR. You're still scummy and your vote is STILL OMGUS.

Curse at me all you want and call xvart names, that doesn't change my opinion of you.

Unvote

Vote: Antihero

Unvote

Vote: Antihero

Unvote

Vote: Antihero

Unvote

Vote: Antihero

Unvote

Vote: Antihero

Unvote

Vote: Antihero

Unvote

Vote: Antihero

Unvote

Vote: Antihero

Unvote

Vote: Antihero

Unvote

Vote: Antihero

hmm... when did your read on Antihero change, chess? The first quote implies a town read, the other two (from earlier) are scum reads.

[Parama]

PARAMA

Rather, I've already said all there is to say on the matter.

No, you haven't. Antihero asks a good question and you've completely stonewalled him (and now me). The "all you're going to say on the matter" turned out to be

I'm shocked that you care so much about being moved from town to townish-null. All I'm gonna say on the matter.

...which is utter and complete bullshit. He's found a contradiction in your stance (to hell with that he's the target) and here you dodge the question AND fling mud by making it look like Antihero is just worried about his own image. THEN he tries to get you to give an opinion on manho and you ignore that too. If you're town the answer the damn questions asked of you in the game.

I'm just shocked and awed that people care so much that I changed one town read to a nulltown read. And which questions did I miss? I tend to answer them all.

BTW

Nacho, are you the daykiller?

What fucking purpose does this serve.

I can't joke around in a mafia game, apparently.
Calm down, PZ.

[Parama]

@Antihero: I am more active in games that I'm more interested in. Inactivity is a sign of disinterest, and I've never been able to make a game interesting myself, so...

[Parama]

@Antihero: I am more active in games that I'm more interested in. Inactivity is a sign of disinterest, and I've never been able to make a game interesting myself, so...

If the numbers are the same from last game, that means more than half the scumteam is already dead.

And we haven't lynched a single one of them. Yay, we're playing a good town game! Yeah right. Our daykiller is playing a good town game, everyone else is doing pretty awful.

[Parama]

LLD: See Toon Fighter flipping town.

[Parama]

Hey xvart, when did you start ignoring me? You really wanted me dead yesterday IIRC.

[Parama]

^There are actually very tiny things. Like: If I'm getting run up to L-2 or closer when lynch is 4+ votes, I'm town. Can prove this, too.

When did I bring up my meta, again? .-.

[Parama]

M=W: I don't really want to lynch obvious town, so Tasky isn't gonna be a valid lynch ever.

[Parama]

See: Tasky giving role-related reasons as to why we shouldn't lynch BE because he'll die anyways
See: BE/moth flipping town
See: Tasky obvtown

[Parama]

Here's me not responding to PZ.

[Parama]

Here's me

requesting a deadline

.

[Parama]

I've seen that people don't do a damn thing if they don't have a deadline for doing damn things.

[Parama]

Dunno why town would want to see a wagon on obvtown.
Dunno why you care about me moving Antihero on my list if my list isn't scumhunting like you say.

You're BSing this on the basis of me moving one read on my list. From town to nulltown. And acting like it's a big deal. While also saying my lists are worthless.

[Parama]

You won't regret leaving an important town player alive, PZ

[Parama]

You won't regret leaving an important town player alive, PZ

ITP Parama knows PZ is town?

I don't even see how you jumped to this conclusion. I'm the important town player and you're one of my top town reads regardless of your little hissy fit over my nulltown read.

[Parama]

D1: ZOMG DAYKILLER SHOT MAFIA. WAIT WTF WHY DID WE LYNCH THE COP?
D2: ZOMG MAF KILLED N1. ZOMG DAYKILLER SHOT MAFIA AGAIN. HOW WAS MOTHRAX TOWN WHEN WE LYNCHED HIM?
D3: NOBODY DIED LOLZ. WHOOPS DAYKILLER SHOT TOWN JOAT. OH WELL. WHO ARE WE LYNCHING? NOBODY KNOWS.

I hope your eyes are bleeding now

[Parama]

I see a wall of "Your logic sucks, I hate your playstyle, and why are these people alive" from Knight. I love how you don't vote. It's pretty neato. I wish you'd vote me.

BTW if you're calling me bad scum you really haven't seen my scumgame I'm willing to put your little rant on my posts as a playstyle difference, because I don't feel like giving logic every time I change a read.

Town:

Tasky
LLD
The Stove
smargaret

Null:

Antihero
Twomz
chesskid3
Nachomamma8
Knight of Cydonia
xvart
manho

Scum:

Chronopie
Espeonage

I want to make something happen.

vote: Espeonage

[Parama]

You know you're playing too much mafia when...

[Parama]

And one of them is OoT.

[Parama]

You're very terribly wrong, Tasky.

[Parama]

You're very terribly wrong, Tasky.

how would you know?

I very much think Espe is more likely to flip scum than Chrono. See the list I posted for ironic purposes recently.
@LLD: I'm not really having an argument. I said he was wrong, he asked why, and then you posted. If that classifies as an argument, then every post in this thread is an argument against itself
@Antihero: When I have time, sure. I have 3 writing assignments to work on that I need done by Monday night and I'm the master of procrastinating on schoolwork.

[Parama]

.-.
Oh yeah. Rule 6. Sighs everywhere.

[Parama]

Well, xvart's gone so I'm not gonna respond to that mess.

Espeonage, where's your vote?

I am also requesting that you respond to that mess even in the absence of the player who asked the questions in the first place. There's no reason not to.

[Parama]

THE FOLLOWING POST IS ALL MY ORIGINAL CONTENT. NO JOKE.

I can't believe you are even engaging me in this discussion, The Stove.

My apologies. When I said "you really did not say anything about BE" I meant "you didn't really say anything of substance". Better?

Lawl backtrack.

You are seriously trying to call that a backtrack? They are essentially the exact same thing but the second has a little more to it because I didn't realize you used semantics and such literal meanings in an attempt to defend yourself.

ORLY? I have gone through your ISO and quoted every mention or pseudo mention or reference to BE.

The lines in blue are where you directly said something about BE and your desire for him to be dead (or why he might be scummy in the few instances)

.

The lines in red are you talking about the case on BE, and note how it changes.

If I missed something please let me know.

TL;DR version:

Specific mentions about BE:

1. OMG BLOODERECTION NEEDS TO DIE NAO.
   
2. Are you incapable of reading English, good sir? Because if I do recall, you are a scholar and a gentleman. (speaking to BE)
   
3. Hey look, BE filled up the diesel tank and he's roaring in that big ol' yellow bus.
   
4. vote: Blooderection
   
5. BE has 6 votes.
   
6. came up with a scum list, which had... Blooderection
   
7. It's not like we never said we'd like to see BE dead, btw.

Saying someone needs to die does not really qualify as substantive posting. You never said anything of substance about why BE was scummy.

Talking about the case on BE

1. The case is outlined. Go read the thread.
   
2. Plz to be doing iso on Blooderection and posting results.
   
3. Obviously AGar and I knocked heads together (talking about their case on BE)
   
4. I'll also let AGar explain the BE case bit.
   
5. Again, I'll let AGar address this.
   
6. The case on BE, and on several of the players in this game, is that they aren't doing anything.

So... you said their was a case on BE (which apparently later turned out to just be that he wasn't contributing), then said to ISO to discover why BE was scummy, you knocked heads to determine that BE was scummy (how much head knocking does it take to think someone is scummy based on lack of contributions?), then you finally say he needed to die because he wasn't contributing. That, my friend, is a Lawl backtrack.

The Stove Quotes about BE

OMG BLOODERECTION NEEDS TO DIE NAO.

Sorry that i'm voting for your scumbuddy.

Really?

Really?

Okay, I'll play. I'll take "The Stove / Greek Chick Links" for $200, Alex.

I unvoted, and I don't think we should not lynch LLD because of the VT claim. I don't think we should lynch LLD because a few of her wagoners are really scummy, including you.

There's no one who doesn't want to lynch LLD because of the VT claim. Now you're just pulling stuff out of thin air.

VOTE: Blooderection

So why exactly did you unvote then? because of people jumping on the wagon? Specifically me?

Are you incapable of reading English, good sir? Because if I do recall, you are a scholar and a gentleman.

Hey look, BE filled up the diesel tank and he's roaring in that big ol' yellow bus.

DEAR SCUMZ

If you want to gg right now it's cool with us.

vote: Blooderection

BE has 6 votes

. CK3 has 1. Tasky has 1. It should be 9 to lynch. 16 alive.

Moar BE votes while Papa Ziti and I discuss the events.

Again, what's the case on BE? I've read BE's ISO, read the pages before the lynch; I'm just not seeing what happened since the day start that suggests BE is scum that would not have been obvious yesterday and BE been the lynch yesterday.

xvart.

Lol@ trying to save your brohan.

The case is outlined. Go read the thread.

Dear kids wanting Blooderection case,

Plz to be doing iso on Blooderection and posting results

.


Love,

PZ

And since he supposedly is super scummy, how hard is it to say why?

Do an iso on them real quick and tell me what you think.

why did you not vote BE yesterday instead of Baby Spice? What changed overnight that made you insta vote BE without further evidence or justification?

Now, see, this is silly. And it's why you're scum good sir.

Obviously AGar and I knocked heads together

and

came up with a scum list

, which had

Baby Spice

Blooderection

At the top of it. (you're up there now too, congrats)

It's not like we never said we'd like to see BE dead, btw.

Explain to me my scum motivation for asking the questions I did.

I'll explain things when I want a wagon on you. Which will come, no worries.

I'll also let AGar explain the BE case bit.

Were you intentionally lying when you said the BE case had already been outlined? If not, why did you say it when it had not been outlined?

We haven't intentionally lied about anything, so no.

Again, I'll let AGar address this.

Was the case on BE so complicated that you couldn't possibly sum it up in a couple of sentences?

The case on BE, and on several of the players in this game, is that they aren't doing anything

. If I help lynch all the lurkers, and the VIs, and the people not paying attention, and the people not trying, then I'm either going to hit scum or I'm going to get rid of dead weight. Either way, when the game comes down to the wire, the town is in a far better position to win. BE, and espeonage, and LLD, and Tasky, and Toon Fighter, and manho and etc fit this bill. (you're being actively destructive, there's a difference)

So despite your little semantical argument, you have not really said anything about BE

AND

you have not said anything of substance about BE.

And the funny part (I've mentioned this once before), is this gem of a quote:

3. The fail is strong with this one. I'm afraid it's hard for me to "poo-poo" (lol) your responses when you aren't giving any.

Let's, once again, list the questions you've refused to answer:

So since you were alluding to someone being scummy by not answering questions, does that make your refusal to answer my questions a legitimate scum tell?

xvart.

[Parama]

Parama Tasky is obvtown? Do explain (seeing if you do).

See: Tasky giving role-related reasons as to why we shouldn't lynch BE because he'll die anyways
See: BE/moth flipping town
See: Tasky obvtown

[Parama]

It was inevitable... it's Fate, after all.
@Stove: Lolbutyou'rebothbeingtoogeneral

[Parama]

unrelated to anything: gratz on the mod position, PZ.

[Parama]

Let's hold a grandiose celebration for the sending of Fate's role PM! This may be the most important event in the history of mankind!

*is mocking the fact that a public announcement of the sending of a role PM was made, which I find absolutely hilarious/unnecessary*

*realizes that he is not StrangerCoug*

I'll probably feel like a douche after hitting the submit button considering the nature of this post... hmm.

*clicks it anyways*

[Parama]

Uh... I don't really think playing with Fate is that big of a deal. I've been on a scumteam against townFate (who was also 2 players in the same game) and won.

[Parama]

I don't rock as scum .-. That wasn't a particularly good game on my part. Fate's just not as much of a threat to anyone as everyone makes him seem.
Yes I know you can see me saying all this Fate.

[Parama]

*prepares earplugs*

[Parama]

Oh good we at least agree that Chrono and Espe are scum. I also know that you read the entire thread under bias that you believe I was scum, so you're seeing things that aren't there.
besides lynching me would be a lot worse than lynching <insert generic lurker here> for several reasons.

[Parama]

1. I'm providing content unlike Espe and Chrono
2. I'm town, Espe and Chrono are not
3. [REDACTED]

[Parama]

Twomz, when Espe flips scum then I'll have pinned a 3rd scum this game. Yes I do bus as scum but I'm town in this game which means it's just good scumhunting.

[Parama]

I wouldn't be putting any effort into this game if I was the SK, just sayin'

I stand by this.

If Fate thinks I'm a reckless player then he doesn't know my town meta at all.

[Parama]

In what sorry universe do people line up to lynch Paramascum after D1?
(hint: Fate is attacking me with a meta case as far as I can tell.)

[Parama]

Charlie, I wouldn't mind if you sheeped the stupid wagon on me (if you did I'd have good reason to call you scum, of course) but an Espe vote is a vote for scum

[Parama]

Deadline is irrelevant, unfortunately.
p.s. don't forget your post restriction

[Parama]

Normal font size is 100.
The font size you used is 85. Barely a difference.
Also manho already gave himself a strike with the purple text <_<

[Parama]

unvote, vote: Parama

baaaa

[Parama]

Espe and Chrono are still scum btw. Twomz also gains massive scumpoints. see:

3) If you assist in the Esp lynch today Fate, I'd be willing to throw my vote on Parama tomorrow for great justice (unless he becomes vigbait of course).

unvote, vote: parama

note these are 2 consecutive posts

I don't feel like looking for all the blatantly obvious towntells I'm made throughout the game so I'll just let y'all lynch me, mock you when I flip town, then watch as you sail on to an easy victory anyways after the daykiller shoots espe tomorrow and then chrono is lynched shortly afterwards

Thanks in advance :>

[Parama]

heheh

hAHHAHAHA

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

"IMPORTANT MEMBER OF TOWN"
+
SELF-VOTE=

hehehehehahahahahahahahahAHAHAHAHAH you don't know my role :>

[Parama]

Do

you

even know your role?

I very much know my role.
It's the best play for me to self-vote at this point in time :>

[Parama]

unvote

Okay, maybe Tasky is scum. Espe is scum too, but those two are the mafia; the SK should be voting me by now and I'll figure out which player that is after looking at individual votes.
Full responses coming soon, I need to go out.
<3 you all for wagoning me, but now I'm actually going to be serious.

[Parama]

I see on that list a dead player. I discredit your entire list because of this.

[Parama]

fate, parama is a fool; i think this is going to be another wasted lynch

Tasky (1): Knight of Cydonia
The Stove (2): Lady Lambdadelta, smargaret

wasted votes make me cry on the inside

Ohohohohohohoho.

fate, parama is a fool

OHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

Antihero is scum, guys. Just trust me on this one. Me flipping shiny green is reason enough to follow my reads, btw. They tend to be right if I'm dying by any means.

I'm going to take a page from Ellibereth's book here.

Town:
Mafuyu
Antihero

Null:
Me=Weird
Espeonage

Scum:
LLD
smargaret

Can't translate atm:
chesskid3

Haven't Posted:
Everyone else

Call me when we stop discussing post restrictions, please.

Why in the HELLLLL would townParama try to change up his meta? Parama's usually an arrogant asshole, so this "i'll take a page from Ellie's meta and scumhunt that way"

note I actually did this in several games at once though they're all ongoing
lolmeta

1. Lists are easy for reasons already mentioned somewhere (possibly by xvart)
2. He WAS changing up his meta by adding this in, despite previous comments that stalled xvart's suspicion
3. Other SKmotivations for lists include: actually trying to scumhunt in a way that isn't aggressive so he doesn't get a lot of attention/organizing his scum lists so he can take shots and set up a vig claim/etc.
4. The fact he SAYS "This is a page from ELLIES ook BTW" shows how concerned he is with how he looks, why announce it? Why not just make a goddamned list? I've seen Parama make lists before, but this time he makes SURE everyone knows "hey ellie does, a well established meta-playah, so don't hate for it"
5. SCUMSUCIMSCUSCMSUCMSUCM

And this is just his first post.

1. List are good reference material too.
2. My meta still involves not liking you. Also lolmeta.
3. hey wanna see my previous SK games? I was pretty aggressive in those and ended up killed by mafia because they thought I was cop
4. no that was because someone asked
5. TNWTOWNTOWTNWOTNWTOWTNWTO

Don't think there's enough to go on yet.

>9 pages
>Not enough to go on

Nice quote out of context there Parama. In your case though there's plenty to go on.

VOTE: Parama

Thanks for telling me all your evidence against me.

Also that's not out of context what are you talking about

'NUFF SAID

""hahahaha I just noticed CN had only two seats in this thread before it dayvigged. ahahahahahah"

I <3 Google Translator

/pointless post" posts for the sake of posting, I can point out plenty of times he does this, especially considering there was a whole PAGE and a half of shit to comment on between this post and his last.

sometimes I post because I feel like posting. I have way too much time for posting anyhow.

This is a preview of the rest of my responses btw. If you don't like what you see here, might as well quicklynch me

[Parama]

3. hey wanna see my previous SK games? I was pretty aggressive in those and ended up killed by mafia because they thought I was cop

lolmeta dammit.

[Parama]

LLD: I am not here to play defense. I do not play defense in mafia. If you want a defense from me, you will always be sorely disappointed; if I post nothing you'll lynch me anyways though so I might as well try.

[Parama]

prove to us why you are town

So you want me to defend myself.

-_-

[Parama]

I've done plenty of scumhunting - are you reading? <_<

[Parama]

I could, but I don't feel like it.

Excuse me if I'm short on words, I'm trying to set up a game here <_<

[Parama]

Parama is making my head hurt.

Wait, did Chesskid just call a flipped townie scum? Lol. Why are more people not voting chesskid for this?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: chesskid

Well, Toon Fighter voted his own predecessor and he still flipped town <_<

[Parama]

*headdesk desk*

[Parama]

@Charlie: Reading the last 10 pages of any thread you replace into is usually the best.

Also thanks for claiming town.

Guys, Charlie is town. Don't lynch him please.

[Parama]

I have my reasons. I don't care about yours.

[Parama]

They are secret reasons.

[Parama]

You wouldn't believe my reasons if I told you.

[Parama]

I have see Charlie-scum. He would reread the entire thread.

[Parama]

Fate-logic:
"PARAMA SIGNED UP FOR THIS GAME, SO HE'S SCUM!!!"

@KoC: idc.

[Parama]

/invitational 11

[Parama]

^this was in response to the fact that you're not always right and in fact often terribly horribly wrong
I wasn't in that game at all though

[Parama]

Also technically I wasn't town in CEBM, though I was town, but I was 3rd-party who was town who was 3rd-party who couldn't win no matter what.

[Parama]

^I agree with the scumteam, but Twomz is mr. sk and probably should be getting death soon too.

[Parama]

smarg: there is a nightkilling sk more than likely as evidenced by mafuyu dying N1 when few or none were reading her as scum. Also a day-sk wouldn't comply with our vigging demands.

[Parama]

^this is Fate-logic at its finest, LLD.

[Parama]

Smarg interactions with NS here coupled by smarg voting NS later leads me to believe she's town.

[Parama]

i ain't votin' a town read bro

[Parama]

AGar, why am I scum? No glancing at PZ's posts allowed.

[Parama]

Hi.

@Smarg: Unvote Fate.
@Fate: Applesauce.
@Knight: When did I go from a null read to a scum read?
@AGar: That's BS and you know it

[Parama]

3) If you assist in the Esp lynch today Fate, I'd be willing to throw my vote on Parama tomorrow for great justice (unless he becomes vigbait of course).

unvote, vote: parama

Lurkers
Espeonage

Likely Scum
Parama

Hi my SK friend.

[Parama]

Charlie's like post is like Parama v2.

And Twomz's isn't?

[Parama]

Lol Chrono.

[Parama]

Well AGar you're pretty awful if you think I'm scum this game.
Note: My scum game looks townier than my town game thanks in advance

[Parama]

Your comment is kinda pointless.

[Parama]

Parama, you're really not helping your case with all this "I'm town because I say I'm town, so anyone who votes me is an idiot" argument.

It's counter-productive.

Well you guys aren't helping me lynch who needs to be lynched and you don't sound like you want to, either. What the hell am I supposed to do then?

[Parama]

I didn't read smarg's case on Fate nor Fate's responses because that's just a giant waste of time.

[Parama]

I am participating more than several players. I don't know why you'd lynch me for "not participating" when slots like Espe and Chrono are doing a whole lot too

[Parama]

BTW, I didn't read the case on Fate because
1. I have no interest in a Fate lynch
2. Walls piss me off

[Parama]

vote: Espeonage

[Parama]

Avatar bet time. Everyone on my wagon has to be willing to change their avatar to one I pick (and I pick who gets what) if they're on the lynch wagon when I flip town. I'll change my avatar to something of PZ's choice if I do flip scum.
P.S. My avatar changes for no man.
I'm going to start lining these up right now

[Parama]

Well AGar you're pretty awful if you think I'm scum this game.
Note: My scum game looks townier than my town game thanks in advance

Lol@ Selfmeta

I wouldn't use self-meta as scum, btw.

/self-meta

[Parama]

BTW I think everyone voting me is nucking futs but that's their decision. At least I can die in peace knowing that the SK voted me.

When I die and flip town, ASIDE FROM THE AVATAR BET, you must lynch/vig all 4 of these people in order:

Twomz

Espe

Chrono

The Stove

(sneaking suspicion that is scum if Espe + Chrono aren't)

Deal? Okay. I'll assist in my own lynch if that's what it takes to get you morons to lynch right.

MOD: Delete my previous post please.

[Parama]

Avatar bet time. Everyone on my wagon has to be willing to change their avatar to one I pick (and I pick who gets what) if they're on the lynch wagon when I flip town. I'll change my avatar to something of PZ's choice if I do flip scum.
P.S. My avatar changes for no man.
I'm going to start lining these up right now

I'll take you up on that.

VOTE: Parama

Loloololol scum voting me, I'm scared.

Don't think I'd support a Tasky wagon tbh. Let's just lynch Espe so we can get a scumflip, or lynch Twomz if we want the SK dead.

[Parama]

unvote, vote: Twomz

[Parama]

We don't have 2 town vigs.
The daykiller is a vig.
Thanks for claimin' SK

Twomz, sorry for being dumb. You're not SK, you're scum with Espe

[Parama]

-sigh- This game is making me rage.

[Parama]

There's most likely a mafia janitor still alive that when killed will reveal Apathy's role.

Twmz is a mafia janitor, and when we kill him, Apathy's role will be revealed.

[Parama]

vote: Chronopie

[Parama]

Lol you're so silly LLD.

[Parama]

Chrono was a mislynch.
Charlie and LLD are both town.
Daykiller: Shoot Espe or Twomz please.

[Parama]

Lol I did terrible.
But Fate tried to lynch me as town, so
SHAME ON YOU

[Parama]

Yeah Antihero owned that game up. GUYS. I NEVER SAID I ACTUALLY SUSPECTED HIM. WHY DID YOU FREAK OUT WHEN I CHANGED HIM FROM TOWN TO NULLTOWN?

[Parama]

Also that's the most vanillas I've ever seen in a bastard mod game.

[Parama]

Good lynches we made in this game:
Baby Spice
mothrax
Chronopie

Bad lynches we made in this game:
<none>

Good vig shots in this game:
Mafuyu
Nero Cain
Blooderection
Nobody Special
Toon Fighter
Nachomamma8

Bad vig shots in this game:
Me=Weird

...well, we can't be 100% I guess.

[Parama]

LOL

YOU CAN'T READ ME

[Parama]

Of course, if Antihero is the Daykiller, then I'm fucked, but, hey. Nothing wrong with living dangerously, right?

Prophecy fulfilled xD

[Parama]

I'm town and know I'm town - why would I want you to shoot me?

[Parama]

It was pretty obvious I wasn't the dayvig from the get-go.
It's not like scum did a good job of hitting the dayvig anyways.

[Parama]

BTW if anyone wonders why I spoke the language of lists:
I am getting lazier by the minute.

[Parama]

I use lists to organize my thoughts most of the time. Posting them in public domain shows that I am doing things, even if the lists don't look like things.
I could still and still do make wall-o-text cases but...
Those are always BSed. I never have every single point in a case mapped out before I make it - heck, nobody does. That's the problem with cases - they will always make someone look worse than they actually do. One single post is enough to make me lynch someone, and I don't have to make a case on that, do I?

[Parama]

Why were you faking a PR? >.<

Lulz are fun?

[Parama]

In other news, apparently Mafuyu had a post restriction that wasn't even described in her role PM? >_>