Mafia on Holy Orders (Game Over!)

[Plum]

Pacman just gave a scummy take on every frakking thing CKD has done. Now I don't mean to be a bother, but even scum generally don't act so overwhelmingly scummy that nigh every post reeks of something bad. And if CKD was like this the whole time, why did Pacman not say much about CKD that I can remember until he decides to do an ISO and determines that he missed a heck of a lot of scummy stuff?

In other words, why does this feel so contrived?

Also why is there a noticeable amount of tone/vibey sour reads on CKD from Pacman. Pacman doesn't seem to like those sort of things when directed at him. Hmmmm.

[Vi]

--- Haylen ---

Shadowed

Dark Demon

--- Offered a Shot Day 5!

-The vote count has been reset.

Vote Count LXI

~ IIIIIIIIIIINCOMIIIIIIIIIING!

Haylen (L-2) ~ AGar, curiouskarmadog, Furcolow

Iecerint (L-4) ~

SocioPath, Furcolow

pacman (L-4) ~

Plum

SocioPath (L-4) ~

Iecerint

curiouskarmadog (L-4) ~

pacman

Not Voting:

Iecerint, pacman, Haylen,

Chronopie, AGar, curiouskarmadog, Furcolow, SocioPath, Plum, Iecerint, pacman

AGar 0 | Chronopie 1 | Furc 0 | Iece 0 | pacman 0 | Plum 0 | ckd 0 | Socio 1 PROD1 2

-Plum shines in radiant glory as of post 1908...

-A small glow surrounds Plum as of post 1925...

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and 4 to No Lynch

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---For those of you who need plain language, HAYLEN IS DEAD.

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(56%)

[pacman281292]

I rechecked, and while some of the points I stated were indeed overreactions, or harsh interpretations to "ambiguous" posts, (in case CKD/anyone willing to read such a wallpost noted), most of my complains to CKD's posting are because of CKD's active lurking. I mention this almost every line, as CKD promised rereads and stuff, then suddenly forgot it after seeing some bizarre "Holy happening".
Corrections here:
At ISO9-10 I overreact over the fact CKD suddenly jumps into the moth wagon with no reason whatsoever. The reasoning is a harsh interpretation to what happened. However, point on that he had no reason stands.
ISO32-34 is again an overreaction. However, I still think the hops were strange at least.
ISO39-41 is mostly a feel, but point stands.
ISO52-56's analysis is directed at vezo.
ISO70... well, I read Soc's post and didn't understand what would it implicate (if anything). It's still posssible that CKD's vote is an overreaction to the post, but the point is now weaker.
Everything else is OK. CKD is overreacting to my post. Whuh?
When I finish the reread (will happen tomorrow, got distracted with another game and might not have time to complete this), I'll group the strongest tells that I get from CKD. Still, my vote stands.

PEDIT: AND TALKING ABOUT "HOLY HAPPENINGS"...
WTF HAS JUST HAPPENED...
So Haylen flipped scum. As first, this further strenghtens my feel of Furcolow (due to the vezo-Furc interaction). This changes the situation with Iec as well, but I'm not sure how. Gotta check the implications of this in-depth later.
Also,

Sorry for being late. Post coming up right away.

This had better be good.

Also, it occurs to me. Why did mothrax claim

Tracker

of all things? Granted he didn't show much proficiency at claiming, but really. Why not Doctor or something easier to get away with longer than a Day?

OR does the team have (someone with) a Tracking power available? I suggested that before, but this is, oddly enough, another piece of evidence supporting the plausibility of the suggestion.

AGar, no apology needed.

this is of extreme relevance (apparently).

Vote: curiouskarmadog

. Answering questions I promised in my next post.

[Iecerint]

Be careful. The % didn't reset and there are the caution bits.

NUCLEAR CAUTION was to get your attention. ~Vi

[pacman281292]

Humm.. I suddenly got to leave.
Sorry, but answers will have to wait for tomorrow as well.
@Iecerint: Yeah. I'm aware we didn't get a time extension.

[curiouskarmadog]

wtf?..you are still voting me???...after Haylen even?..and with no change in the %.....AND you "suddenly got to leave"?

wtf.

[curiouskarmadog]

I really dont think pac is scum, but that play is just bad.

[pacman281292]

wtf?..you are still voting me???...after Haylen even?..and with no change in the %.....AND you "suddenly got to leave"?

wtf.

I don't know how Haylen's scumflip might change my opinion on you. That goes for tomorrow.
I'm not supposed to be posting.

[Iecerint]

Haylen appears to have suicided, and scum can almost certainly daytalk, so I think reading too much into what happened really locally is unwise (re: CKD implicitly arguing that he is cleared because Haylen is scum).

I didn't get a Neighborization in unf.

[Plum]

Haylen appears to have suicided, and scum can almost certainly daytalk, so I think reading too much into what happened really locally is unwise (re: CKD implicitly arguing that he is cleared because Haylen is scum).

Haylen

suicided

? Since when do scum do that???

Seriously, where are you getting this from?

[Furcolow]

vote: ckd

[Furcolow]

bus

[Iecerint]

It says Haylen "Offered a Shot." That's what it looks like to me.

The weird part is that they don't get EDIT: my mistake; I thought the day advanced by 1, but it apparently didn't.

My thought was that Haylen had some ability where she could die to bring the next day without resetting the timer that she used poorly, but it's unlikely if day didn't advance.

[Iecerint]

I guess the implication might be "Haylen [was] offered a shot [by someone]," but it's really weird pragmatics to use language that way.

My interpretation was like HAYLEN SHOT HERSELF 2 HELP HER FRIENDS. LIKE KYLIE IN DOCTOR WHO.

Clarification would be nice if the ambiguity is unintentional.

[Furcolow]

lynch CKD iecerint is town if he is scum imo and vice versa
information = good
iecerint being town > ckd being town (due to neighborizer = masons if he is town)
therefore ckd dying and seeing iecerint's alignment is important

asking plum/agar/chronopie to back me up on this one

[Iecerint]

iecerint being town > ckd being town (due to neighborizer = masons if he is town)

This makes no sense at all...

I'd ape my PoV on this again but ye know.

[Chronopie]

Sorry for being late. Post coming up right away.

This had better be good.

Also, it occurs to me. Why did mothrax claim

Tracker

of all things? Granted he didn't show much proficiency at claiming, but really. Why not Doctor or something easier to get away with longer than a Day?

OR does the team have (someone with) a Tracking power available? I suggested that before, but this is, oddly enough, another piece of evidence supporting the plausibility of the suggestion.

AGar, no apology needed.

--

Well I was wrong on Haylen.

--

lynch CKD iecerint is town if he is scum imo and vice versa
information = good
iecerint being town > ckd being town (due to neighborizer = masons if he is town)
therefore ckd dying and seeing iecerint's alignment is important

asking plum/agar/chronopie to back me up on this one

So... Let me see if I have this straight:

You want to lynch CKD. If CKD is scum, you assume that Iecerint is town. Likewise, Iecerint-scum means CKD town?
And you believe that Iecerint is more likely town than CKD, so want to lynch CKD to test your theory. rite?

--

Lead on, oh Plum of the Glorious Radiance.

[Furcolow]

nearly. i believe iecerint is more likely scum, but also more helpful if he is town as we are essentially masons

[Furcolow]

i feel him being possibly town is more important than CKD unless CKD is our medic/doctor/jailkeeper type protective role

[Vi]

"Haylen [was] offered a shot [by someone],"

This is correct. "Offered a shot" is a kill flavor.

[curiouskarmadog]

bus

a bus a that point doesnt make any sense...if Iece was town and I was scum, I would have easily jumped on his wagon at the beginning part of the day without issue..

I understand Pac's vote, but this one doesnt make any sense...

I cant say this enough, if you really are town in this game...I WILL NEVER JOIN ANOTHER GAME WITH YOU....you are just horrible.

[curiouskarmadog]

nearly. i believe iecerint is more likely scum, but also more helpful if he is town as we are essentially masons

OMFG, what?

[curiouskarmadog]

I feel like I am getting ready to get into the Furc vortex where I will only end up being pissed because nothing he says makes sense to a normal person but..

Furc, I dont think you know the difference between masons and neighbors..please wiki it. Also, how is making someone a neighbor help the town? "CKD dying and seeing Iece's alignment"..what is the fucking difference?...how will me dying help you see Iece's alignment? When I flip town that will tell you what? Iece is scum?....no...it wont...it will only tell you that I am town. This is nohting more than a set up lynch...."Well, CKD was town, so Iece must be scum"...bullshit or crazy person reasoning.

its ok, you can get in a boat, the world is not flat....its round.

[curiouskarmadog]

also for all of those out there who might be missing it...I am at -2.

[curiouskarmadog]

and another thought (just had in shower)

how did haylen know that Iece targetted Furc? She tried to use that knowledge to confirm herself.

and given than, Furc still want to push that I am a better lynch?

I didn't get a Neighborization in unf.

also, this didnt go unnoticed...the day isnt over yet..so you should have enough time to do this...go ahead and get your info in.