Uh huh, uh huh.SocioPath wrote:No, actually.Plum wrote:Fits with CKD's bahvior yesterday much, no?
That is what is the key.
Nice false dilemma.Plum wrote:Any breadcrumbs, SP?
No, because you're scum.
I never crumb, and I never will.
Its a sign of weakness.
I play this game to use psychology to catch people, not soulless sequences and inputs.
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Nothing of CKD's behavior was in anyway indicative of that of a doc...Plum wrote:
Point this out, please. Explain.SocioPath wrote:
No, actually.Plum wrote:Fits with CKD's bahvior yesterday much, no?
That is what is the key.
...but only TODAY does he START BREADCRUMBING?
HOW DOES THAT WORK?
WHY ONLY CRUMB AFTER THE FACT?
If he was in fact a doc who was so concerned about keeping role integrity thru the night, he would have obviously crumbed his role YESTERDAY TOO, WHEN HE GOT IT.Aut Tace Aut Meliora Loquere Silentio.-
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Yeah...I think I've mentally cleared everyone else except CKD from being scum. And I even significantly doubted CKD was scum before and after that. I COULD see SP pulling a clear-my-partner gambit, but I'd say it's hypothetically (fairly) won him the game under the circumstances; it's not in play.
But really, I'd lynch me under these circumstances if I were anyone else, and there's no way I'm surviving 3-way lylo, so ima be Jesus On The Cross if it gets to be too awful.
I never actually read SP before, so there's that. He tends to fake-bus a scumfriend D1 in smaller games, but it's less reliable in larger games, and I think he played to his large game scum meta in general this game; he reminded me of when we were scum together in Plum's Lay of Leithian mafia, which is why I thought he was scum back on D4-D5. So it might not be reliable but idk.
EDIT: Yeah, Furc hasn't posted in the QT, either. I asked him about your claim and the target reveal there awhile ago.-
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What have I done that was sketchy in our thread?
You just said that you trusted me based on things there in-game a short time ago IIRC.
Plum didn't suicide. She's the vig who killed Haylen. She killed SP, but SP was a PGO, so she died.-
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1. It's not the same as suiciding. She didn't know SP was a PGO. This is relevant because you either have not read the thread carefully or are cultivating that appearance.
2. That is not what I was asking you, but my wording was ambiguous, to be fair. I was asking you whether you thought I should reveal my Neighborization target in-thread given CKD's statement that no further reveals were necessary. Seeing how you respond to questions like this is a way to help me continue judging your alignment.
3. And I actually have more cause to be worried about giving you information if I'm town, anyway. If I'm scum, I already know what I can make up and tell you. If I'm town, I don't want to tell you who my target is, because I might be able to claim information for them, etc.-
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1. dude, ok, but she suicided on him to kill him. yet again, you're arguing semantics. i know how a PGO works, i've had one in a game i modded. you're just being insolent now.
2. You already revealed your neighborizer target to Haylen... before the thread new.... and she ended up being scum.
3. No. You have more to worry about as scum, because you know i'm town, and you know that it's LyLo .. believe it probably is and you would know it if it is... maybe not in this game... this game is so confusing
explain: 1) asking me if i believe CKD's claim and casting doubt on that in the neighborizer
2) haylen realizing who you neighborized before the person you neighborized
3) Socrates stating one of you/ckd are scum, coupled with the fact there was no night kill before this shit with plum
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1. That is not what the word suicide means. This is a minor point and I dunno why you're continuing to go on about it. It's "arguing semantics" in the sense that it's arguing what words mean, but I've already said why that's relevant here.
2. I have no idea what you're talking about here. The sequence of events was a) Haylen claims I didn't target anyone b) I CC and say that I targeted someone who can confirm it in-thread c) she reneges and says that I targeted you d) I confirm it.
Also, I'd forgotten about it, but this means that Haylen made a lucky guess, you are scum, or the last scum is a Tracker-Roleblocker (or the Roleblocker is a town player still alive).
3. That makes no sense.
1. At no point do I cast doubt on CKD's claim. I don't see how you could get that out of it, either. I ask you what you think about it in the same post as I ask if I should reveal my target. I posted that before I recognized that the relevant CKD post was already decoded, though, IIRC. You should be able to check timestamps.
2. Already answered above.
3. I've stated in-thread and out-of-thread a gillion times why I thought Soc was wrong about that. To resummarize briefly -- my unvote was independent of CKD's (and in the context of getting a claimed Tracker off of L-1), and CKD's only lasted a second before he pushed mothrax to lynch. Soc's point there was "scum want to unvote their scumfriend, so one of the unvoters was probably scum," but the circumstances of the unvote mean that it doesn't apply here.
It is likely that CKD is town. This has been my bias about his slot since just after he replaced in; I only wavered a little when he pushed me D4 without a case. (This is true at the same time that it's true that I've been pretty much certain that all the remaining characters were town, though.) Anyway, PlumDocCKD thing continues that pattern.-
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1. it's irrelevant
it's the past
it's not good to dwell on the past unless you are scum which you continue to do through beating this dead horse... hence you are scum.
2. that is great for you, buddy, except the fact of HOW DID SHE KNOW BEFORE YOU/I CONFIRMED IT... hence you are scum
3. it does make sense, and the fact you're saying it doesn't when I KNOW YOU KNOW IT DOES means youre lying... hence you are scum
it makes sense through you being cautious. your cautiousness implies you are scum. at this point in LyLo if you weren't scum you would be clinging to the grass on the side of the mountain so to speak.
1. You wouldn't doubt it as scum, either. You also would try to get me to through asking shitty questions like that.
2. I disagree that you properly answered that. There really is no way you can squirm out of that.
3. I disagree with this as well, especially if you play how I think you play. CKD = Town so you = scum. I'm sure of it.
here's how it makes sense: on the mothrax wagon, socrates highlighted either you or CKD was scum due to the voteswitching at a certain interval. THAT COUPLED WITH CKD PROTECTING PLUM.... hence you are scum
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1. Who's dwelling?
2. No, that's not true. There are a number of other possible explanations that I've listed. Also, why weren't you all over this with AGar yesterday if this has always been so clear to you?
3. No. Just no. Also, since when is it lylo?
1. Actually, I did doubt it (privately) for a moment (as town). SP is the kind of player who will manufacture circumstances like that. But I don't think it's in play here. You're correct (implicitly) that me asking you for your feelings about CKD's claim is null, though that's not how you had it just moments ago.
2. Um, no, I already answered it:
3. I disagree with your face. See? I can evaluate things without reasoning, too.Iec wrote:This means that Haylen made a lucky guess, you [Furc] are scum, or the last scum is a Tracker-Roleblocker (or the Roleblocker is a town player still alive).
here's how it makes sense: I unvoted mothrax to get a claimed Tracker off of L-1, CKD started to follow suit, but then recognized something off about his claim and immediately rhetoric-switched that. If not for this rhetoric-switch (not to mention hypothetically voting a wagon'd scumfriend with a vote proxy'd), I could agree with Soc's dichotomy, but not with it. Soc's initial perception of a town-scum dichotomy here was a false dichotomy. He even accepted this when I argued that CKD was probably town for other reasons when CKD was among his top suspects after mothy's death.-
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(EBWOP: Also, "dwelling on the past" is how you catch scum.)
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