Mafia on Holy Orders (Game Over!)

[curiouskarmadog]

well at this point, i think that Iece or Furc is scum..based on the fact that haylen knew that Iece targetted Furc...that knowledge would have been had by Iece OR furc. I really really really doubt it was a lucky guess.

[curiouskarmadog]

vote Iece

...my gut was on you early...you play has been scummy...if I am wrong (and I will be dead that night)..I say lynch Furc tomorrow if it is at lylo.

also Agar, if my gut was right about SP and Iece is this game (not to mention my vote was on haylen when she died) based on "so little"..you should never question my gut again.

[Iecerint]

Yeah, lynching me today is OK. I'd do it if I were you guys. If we mislynch someone else, we're 100% lynching me tomorrow, pretty much, unless there's a secret Cop or tracker. So lynching me first slightly increases the chance that the one lynch that isn't wasted on my mislynch will lynch scum.

One thing to remember is that you'll know there's a roleblocker, unless AGar just can't be Neighborized for some reason or a town player who thought I was scum roleblocked me (in which case, please claim it so that you can clear me tonight mebe).

I'd advise to take care, though, since Furc's interactions with the scum don't make him look like scum (idk about with SP, though).

CKD, when'd you have a gut read on SP? You were calling me scum all D4 when I said I had a metascum read on SP.

[curiouskarmadog]

unvote

, rethinking...probably will revote.....but.

[Vi]

--- curiouskarmadog ---

Righteous

Doctor

--- Struck by Lightning Day 6...

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Vote Count LXX

~ ARMAGEDDON IT (yes I'm'a gettin' it)

Iecerint (L-1) ~

Furcolow, curiouskarmadog

Not Voting:

Chronopie,

Furcolow,

Iecerint,

curiouskarmadog,

AGar,

curiouskarmadog,

Furcolow

AGar 1 | Chronopie 0 | Furc 0 | Iece 0

-The vote count has been reset. (again)

-The smell of smoke surrounds Iecerint as of 2114...
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(88%)

Public Service Announcement

Just a friendly reminder of Vi-mod policy: If you have won the game or THINK you have won the game, please do not start postgame talk until I officially declare the game over. Thank you in advance.

[Iecerint]

@ whichever light thinks 2114 is scummy --

OK.

I did not successfully Neighbor someone last night. I targeted AGar, because I thought Plum would be the NK target. I received a message that I did not Neighborize successfully.

My guess is RBer, but the post does not clarify.

I'd like to clarify ONE point with Vi about it before the day ends, now that I look at the PM again.

Also: 100% SOCSCUM IN IEC GAMES CONTINUES.

SP is almost certainly the scum who tried to kill Plum N5. Otherwise, he wouldn't have fakeclaimed a doc protect on Plum. Also, his ability (PGO) was passive. They probably had the player with an active ability (RB) use that ability. (This applies even if you think I wasn't roleblocked, one way or the other, and are working with Plum's theory that scum has a Tracker.)

Hence, hypothetically lying about the above would not make sense, because it's already demonstrated that I DO have a Neighborization ability, and I wouldn't have needed to cover up the kill.

[Furcolow]

(EBWOP: Also, "dwelling on the past" is how you catch scum.)

maybe you... not me. I'm in the moment, and at the moment I am completely fucking sure you are an evil fuck.

[Furcolow]

vote: iecerint

[Iecerint]

Having just read SP, I see it as consistent with an SP-Furc scumteam. He routinely lampshades weird things that Furc does without ever pushing it seriously. He votes him once, but not for long. He does empty early-game distancing with him that doesn't really go anywhere. This is all consistent with mini-version SPscum behavior.

His behavior toward me is NOT typical of SP behavior, either in minis or in large games. His push on me D4 was too significant. Compare SP-Iec scumfriends in Plum's large Lay of Leithian game, where he joins a wagon on me early D3 or so, but does absolutely nothing to support it with rhetoric.

It also contextualizes several of Furco's statements about vez ("I can guarantee a scum flip from vez").

I unfortunately am no longer in a position to Jesus-On-The-Cross here.

[Vi]

Hawt New Game Mechanic Rule 1B has been added.

[Furcolow]

Light guy you need to give me vig powers so I can kill Iecerint

[AGar]

CKD is town. I'll trust his gut. Iecerint is probably the more likely scum anyways out of him or Chrono. Furc is town.

VOTE: Iecerint

[AGar]

Chronopie needs to be not-lurky so he can hammer scum. Srsly.

[Furcolow]

unless he is scum, too

[Furcolow]

I have this gut feeling and urge to see vezokpiraka flip
I guarantee a scum flip

But Fur!
Vezo is like that...
...as town.



Man I want to see a VI vs. VI fight.
I don't think I've ever really got to see one of those before.
We could even take side betting.

[Furcolow]

I am now suspicious of SocioPath if vezokpiraka is scum.

If?
BEFORE IT WAS A GUARANTEE.
GUARANTEES DONT COME WITH IFS.

[Furcolow]

unvote
Vote furcolow

DIE SCUM DIE.

[Furcolow]

echo
echo
echo
this is coming in waves... I am sorry I cannot be here fully in myself...
Perhaps I am not the hero you all expected. I do not have a fancy cape, and for Halloween this year I'm thinking of just wearing a nametag with the name "Jim" or "Bob" put on it. I am just an everyday guy.

I am, however, someone who puts faith in the powers that be. I know one of you all is good, and one of you all is bad. I know the difference between listening to the Lead Belly version of In the Pines and the Nirvana version. I'm sorry if you find my metaphor to be underwhelming to your emotions, but though I digress, my heart is pure.

I have shown you the interactions I have had with scum, Chronopie, and they are openly hostile. If you would like to see me bussing, or attempting it, I will show you what it looks like. This is not how it looks.

Iecerint pretty much has to be scum based upon us all pushing for Mothrax... I pushed vezokpiraka, and had a read on Sociopath I didn't even remember having! If two of you all are scum, not including the !!!!!!, then I hope that through this post I gain some sort of powers through SottyRules7 or whoever is the good guy that we can win through that.

[Furcolow]

agar > mothrax
chronopie's slot > mothrax
i was a wagon along with pacman and mothrax, and I revitalized the Mothrax wagon even if I'm not sure if I ended up on it. He pushed me ASAP on d2 to try to mislynch me.
I am town.
we can't lynch !!!!!!
Since I can be sure all 3 of us are scum, and through my knowing we have to be able to lynch scum, it has to be Iecerint.

It looks like:
AGar wasn't bussing mothrax imo
Chronopie has been town, and his slot was all over mothrax
I know my own role, which is Righteous and green, though I hope to get blue
Iecerint is a scum neighborizer. He has to be. I would not be surprised if he killed CKD with some dayvig powers.

[Iecerint]

Vote: Furcolow

I'm not quite ready for this, though.

[AGar]

Vote: Furcolow

I'm not quite ready for this, though.

You're gonna need a mighty convincing case with that.

By the way, let me note that I absolutely abhor players like Chronopie, who randomly V/LA and lurk half of the game away. Not personally, but it bugs me when players disappear for a long period of a game. -.-

[AGar]

EBWOP: Wow, ignore that rant. I didn't read Chronopie's sig.

[Iecerint]

Remind me why Furc is town, or more likely town than Chrono? It should be clear that it's most likely between me and Furc, unless Chrono or you is a Tracker-RBer (or there are already half-scum, which...).

It's true that some of the scum interactions with Furc make him look town, but something to consider is that Furc is viewed the way zwet used to be viewed on this site. You should expect somewhat higher levels of bussing than is typical.

(The same's true of vezok, too.)

I'd encourage you to read SP's iso.

[AGar]

Remind me why Furc is town, or more likely town than Chrono? It should be clear that it's most likely between me and Furc, unless Chrono or you is a Tracker-RBer (or there are already half-scum, which...).

It's true that some of the scum interactions with Furc make him look town, but something to consider is that Furc is viewed the way zwet used to be viewed on this site. You should expect somewhat higher levels of bussing than is typical.

(The same's true of vezok, too.)

I'd encourage you to read SP's iso.

Furc's reactions to the wagons, as well as to the attacks levied on him are those of a likely town individual, not a scum player.

I'm not going to cross-meta Furc when I don't even meta people, c'mon now.

And what about SP's iso? He got vigged after he got gambitted by a doctor. His posting left almost 0 connections.

[Iecerint]

Literally half of SP's posts are about Furco, and another quarter or so are about me. If you're trying to evaluate Furco and me, I would argue that SP's iso is quite informative.

I already gave my take on SP's iso here.