Mafia on Holy Orders (Game Over!)

[SocioPath]

Vote: Iecerint

This guy is ALWAYS SCUM when I am around.

[SocioPath]

I can see a policy on fur based on SB-syndrome.
And no, I will not explain what that is.
But even the mod is getting in on it.

[SocioPath]

What about the broken play?

[SocioPath]

A bit early for an SK claim, isn't it?

[SocioPath]

And ani just skyrocketed.

[SocioPath]

I have this gut feeling and urge to see vezokpiraka flip
I guarantee a scum flip

But Fur!
Vezo is like that...
...as town.



Man I want to see a VI vs. VI fight.
I don't think I've ever really got to see one of those before.
We could even take side betting.

[SocioPath]

I am now suspicious of SocioPath if vezokpiraka is scum.

If?
BEFORE IT WAS A GUARANTEE.
GUARANTEES DONT COME WITH IFS.

[SocioPath]

I would like to also instigate a three-paragraph policy. Benefits of this are: reduced spamming, town cohesion, and it helps scumhunting.

Reducing spamming is like cleaning up a cluttered room. It is easier to hide things in a cluttered room than a room that is clean. Therefore, it is easier for scum to hide in a disorganized, chaotic, and spammy environment. This will lead to the town working together.

Town Cohesion will come through people waking up and performing as a collective as opposed to subjective. WE should pressure together, tunnel together, FoS together, and lynch together. I want not one to be held accountable, but all. This will root out scum if we do it, mark my words.

By doing this, and having each others backs, the environment will not bode well for scum. By hurting scum, playing correctly through reducing spam and being a cohesive unit, we will be helping ourselves.

This post makes no sense.

[SocioPath]

I will answer ANY question this game

How did you feel when you found out you were scum in this game?
Both initially, and when comparing it to the player list?
As scum, who would/will you kill N1 if that choice is solely up to you?

[SocioPath]

@SocioPath, explain how that post doesnt make sense. now. And not your questionnaire to me, you saying "this post doesn't make sense".

Short posts can be great for the town.

Long posts can be great for the town.



Does knowing that vezo is looked at to be just as much if not a little more or less of a VI as you change your opinion of his posts/play?

[SocioPath]

Fur is jumping back and forth on my reads list faster than a seismometer in an earthquake with every post made.

First time I mention vezoVI...'OH SP IS SCUM.'

Second time...'OH WELL THATS WHY IM NOT VOTING HIM.'

[SocioPath]

That has to be the most amazing information-based vote count I have ever read.

It of in itself is almost like another player doing detailed wagon analysis.

As well as the deadline timer.

I mean, I read before hand that the vote counts were going to be like that, but seeing it in action is a wonderful site.

And thats only the first real one!

[SocioPath]

So much to skim thru.

The only new consistent thing is Wraith.

Vote: Wraith

[SocioPath]

What in the hell is going on here.

I know people enjoy listening to what I have to say and such...
but this is pretty surreal:

Wraith gets NOTHING SAID ABOUT HIM AT ALL.
THEN I STATE SOMETHING.
*WHAMMO*
MASSIVE WAGON.

I DIDNT EVEN MAKE SPECIFICS.

I MEAN HELL, THE FIRST THING THAT SERIOUSLY BOTHERED ME WAS ON PAGE 7.
WHICH WAS SEVEN. PAGES. BEFORE. I SAID ANYTHING.
THE GAME GREW TO TWICE AS BIG, AND NO ONE SAID A DAMN WORD.

I DROP ONE LINE AND ONE VOTE AND SUDDENLY I AM THE PARAGON OF ALL THAT IS HOLY?!

YES HE WAS SCUMMY.
BUT IF THAT IS SO TRUE FOR THE REST OF YOU...THEN WHY SIT BACK AND BASK TIL ME?

HELL, AS I SAID, I DIDNT EVEN FULLY READ EVERYTHING I MISSED.
I ONLY HAD TIME TO SKIM.
BUT AFTER WRAITH JUMPED UP ONS MY LIST, I PAID EXTRA ATTENTION TO EVERY THAT BOTH, HE SAID, AND WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAID ABOUT HIM.
GUESS WHAT.
SILENCE.
TIL I POPPED IN.

THIS WAGON IS BUS.

[SocioPath]

*HAMMERS SO HARD IT HURTS*

VOTE: WRAITH

THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO, PEOPLE.

[SocioPath]

Someone else needs to figure out whether it was likely Wraith remembered Socio's vote on him....

I"m guessing yes because Socio STARTED the whole god damn wagon.


Day is not broken. Semiconfirmed my ass

FATE SPEAKS SENSE.

How could a person NOT remember the WAGON STARTER?


Not to mention it wasn't even a whole "OMG FAKE HAMMER"

Anyone paying attention would have noticed that I said THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE SPOSED TO BE DOING: HAMMERING WRAITH.

[SocioPath]

What the crap is the line of numbers in the votecount?

Also Iec is silly.

[SocioPath]

NO. THE OTHER RANDOM STRING OF NAMES AND NUMBERS.

[SocioPath]

@SP: It's the Battery power bar...

Please just don't speak.

[SocioPath]

HIS DUMBNESS GRATES ONNA ME BRAAIN.

[SocioPath]

VOTE: PACMAN

I THINK MY WORK HERE IS DONE.

[SocioPath]

I am down with that.

unvote
Vote pacman

PLEASE OH PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS POST TO ME.
FOR I NEED TO SEE THE LIGHT.

[SocioPath]

TOO LITTLE
TOO LATE

UNVOTE
VOTE: VEZOK

VOTE: PACMAN

I THINK MY WORK HERE IS DONE.

FoS: SocioPath

for voting me without the slightest speck of reason.

I am down with that.

unvote
Vote pacman

FoS: vezokpiraka

for coming back from lurking with a 0-reason vote.
Heh.

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM TALKING.
BOTH TO ME.
AND ABOUT ME.

MY METHODS ARENT MAFIA101.
BUT LIKELY SCUM YOU ARE.

[SocioPath]

Well pacman is a good vote. We can lynch and he flips scum right?

EXCELLENT.
EXPLAIN WHY HE IS A GOOD VOTE.

[SocioPath]

Back to furc. Pcaman isn't going anywhere.

unvote
Vote furcolow

WHAT THE HELL IS THIIIS?!

PACMAN = GOOD VOTE BECAUSE != BAD VOTE
Now a wagon is actually FORMING, and people are actually coming around on pacman...and OHCRAPITSNOTGOINGANYWHERE.

VOTE: PACMAN

I THINK MY WORK HERE IS DONE.

Marry me?

Say it IN CAPS LIKE YOU MEAN IT.
OR IT WOULD NEVER WORK OUT.

[SocioPath]

Pacman scum here I come.

unvote
Vote pacman

I will switch on these two wagons until one is lynched.

pacman has done absolutely nothing to deserve an instawagon, apart from doing absolutely nothing suspicious, which is only a mild scumtell and deserves only some pressure, not immediate death.

Doing nothing sispicious is mild scumtell? me confused.
vezo, are you serious?

I AGREE

UNVOTE
VOTE: PACMAN

[SocioPath]

I'm not even talking to Socio. He can go shout all the BS he wants. He's just plain annoying, I won't care to anything he says anymore.

<3

[SocioPath]

VOTE: PACMAN

I THINK MY WORK HERE IS DONE.

Marry me?

Say it IN CAPS LIKE YOU MEAN IT.
OR IT WOULD NEVER WORK OUT.

MARRY ME???

OH WELL THEN SINCE YOU PUT IT THAT WAY...
OK.



EVERYTHING ELSE SAID ON PAGE ISNT WORTH MY TIME.

[SocioPath]

I'm down for a Vezo lynch at anynows.

[SocioPath]

I HAVE NO TIME.

VOTE: PACMAN

[SocioPath]

dislike both wagons
both are VIs imo

I also would consider a sociopath lynch due to his attacking of people i view as townies

I don't like this train of thought.

[SocioPath]

All of these new "developments" are silly, and meaningless.

I like the glowy light though.

They are like laser dots on the foreheads of those that need to be put down.

[SocioPath]

I DONT KNOW.

[SocioPath]

he's a total softie and never pushes his scumfriends like that unless they start it (i.e. by signaling I WOULD LIKE TO DISTANCE NOW PLZ). He does softbus by joining wagons, but he never rhetorics against scumpals.

I am offended that you think this way.

[SocioPath]

I push more than you think.
Like oh I don't know, even the last game we were in together.
IA II.
Where DGB called me town the whole game, I made a great case against her, got her lynched, then used that to get the SK lynched, then rode the rest of the game with my other buddy for a smooth victory.

Vote: Iec

^
YOU SEE WHAT I DID THAR?

[SocioPath]

VEZO > M=E
For Deeeath.

IEC CAN EAT IT FOR NOW THOUGH.

[SocioPath]

Seems like light/smoke is just a MASSIVE post restriction of the non-players of this game.
Effectively, its like only being able to quote a post, but not actually say anything about it.
There are 2 non-names in the game, so that would be one for light, one for smoke.

They are PROBABLY just quoting what they FEEL is correct, because alignment CONFIRMING would be silly, as THAT would be a SANE COP THAT IS UNNKABLE.




ALSO I WISH PACMAN WOULD VOTE FOR SOMEONE.

[SocioPath]

UNVOTE

VOTE: PACMAN

WELL THAT WAS EASY.

[SocioPath]

Money @ mouth.

Unvote; Vote: SocioPath

<3

ALSO I LOVE THE WAY YOU WAIT UNTIL THE SECOND MY VOTE IS OFF YOU.



TORN AGAIN.

[SocioPath]

Her posting hasn't been the most helpful, not even on late D3 where all that she did was tunneling on me.

HOW IS THAT NOT HELPFUL?

[SocioPath]

Major FoS: Furcolow

For Role-fishing.

OK, so vote me.
What is this? You replace into a scummy slot, and now you believe you can just bark orders at people that even a person as wise as Socrates found town, and I will pull the post if you'd like. He made a very detailed voting analysis which pretty much confirms me.

What now, Haylen?

This is the worst post I've seen be made in a long time.

Unvote
Vote: Furcolow

[SocioPath]

If your play does not pick up in a pro-town way I am going to consider switching my vote onto you. I didn't mind your play as much, even if you were scum, until you voted me. If you were town there is no way you would believe me to be scum at this point. Have you ever seen one of my games where I am scum? You obviously haven't. Did you read the post Socrates made which cleared me? (He flipped tracker, remember?)

Don't worry, I'll save you the time and state that I am not going to play any more pro-town than I am currently.

[SocioPath]

BUT I WANT TO FALL BACK AND RELY ON EVERYTHING THAT WHAT THE LIGHT TELLS ME TO DO.
THOUGHT IS DEAD.
FOLLOW THEM ALL.

[SocioPath]

unvote, vote Iecerint..

dont tease me now.

Guys.

Iec lynch is good.

I CAN GET BEHIND THIS.
HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW IEC?

UNVOTE
VOTE: IEC

POORLY PLAYED.

[SocioPath]

POORLY PLAYED.

[SocioPath]

Aside: people who have played with me know that I would've joined one of the wagons and made a big gross post with lots of reasons for THIS (whichever) player being scum, if I were scum. [/self-meta]

Except that doesn't work for you when I'm in your games, now does it?

[SocioPath]

VOTE: Iecerint

Can we do THIS, lynch THIS, and massclaim tomorrow or the next Day? YES. LET'S DO THAT.

THIS. SO HARD.

VOTE: IEC

[SocioPath]

EBWOP: At my 1776 I do post some scumreads, but mostly based on skim-reads, and my former "official" scum reads, which are stated in post 1663.

Keep standing on your fence.

[SocioPath]

That said I don't recall pacman posting a whole lot of substance recently. Urgh.

EBWOP: At my 1776 I do post some scumreads, but mostly based on skim-reads, and my former "official" scum reads, which are stated in post 1663.

Keep standing on your fence.

did you even read those posts? no? then don't come here with flaff and read.
stop lurking. if you actually do feel suspicious of someone, speak now or STFU forever.
dammit...

COME ON PLUM.
LEARN TO READ.

[SocioPath]

I choose to withhold my vote for now.

[SocioPath]

have a feeling this will help someone vote who is "withholding" a vote.

vote SP

Aww, you aren't the one that is supposed to comment on that, silly.
Way to waste my time.

so much hate for Vezo(there are other posts too)...yet you never voted him.

How observant of you.
You have odd perceptions of reality though.

[SocioPath]

Don't forget the obvbussing against Vezok and then pulling back when Haylen replaced in that SP did:

I am down with that.

unvote
Vote pacman

PLEASE OH PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS POST TO ME.
FOR I NEED TO SEE THE LIGHT.

TOO LITTLE
TOO LATE

UNVOTE
VOTE: VEZOK

Well pacman is a good vote. We can lynch and he flips scum right?

EXCELLENT.
EXPLAIN WHY HE IS A GOOD VOTE.

Back to furc. Pcaman isn't going anywhere.

unvote
Vote furcolow

WHAT THE HELL IS THIIIS?!

PACMAN = GOOD VOTE BECAUSE != BAD VOTE
Now a wagon is actually FORMING, and people are actually coming around on pacman...and OHCRAPITSNOTGOINGANYWHERE.

BAM.
THAT SP GUY IS ROASTED.
AND LIKE CKD SAID: NEVER VOTED FOR THAT SCUM HAYLEN.

Also there is the fact that SP is scum in Iecerint games 100% of the time, so that should be thrown in the case as well.

Now, as we watch him flail, lets see him shove attention onto someone else he has been avoiding for a while to minimise flake towards himself by pointing fingers.
Especially with that new scum flip, to cut all ties to the recently deceased scum:

The fact vezo was scum really makes me think the above points to pacmanscum, with a fail-bussing on vezo's part, with the whole "good vote because its not bad" crap that I was talking about before.
Looks and feels like a half-assed bandwagon bussing to get whatever cred he can by going "oh I wanted him dead so obviously I'm town."

Then there is this beauty:

SocioPath: This player can be described by 3 letters and four question marks. WTF????
He's just absolutely unreadable. I'd say that, when the time comes, we will be able to discard out Socio as the last scum (in case he is). I'd leave him alive for now, even with his sheer uselessness.
uhh...

SocioPath 3.5

Chronopie: This player can be described in 2 words: Active lurking. He shamelessly hopped on almost all of the popular wagons with little to no reasons. The only post where he has stated his stances in more than one player was ISO26. As AGar and Plum, I'd like he stated his (updated) stances, with at least some reasoning. Overall, my read is null, with a (very) mild scum lean.

Chronopie 4

Chronopie is an active lurking null read, he gets a 4, which is null learning towards scum...okay.
SOCIOPATH is "absolutely unreadable", but can be left alive because useless...which is 3.5 for being scummier.

Last time I checked, finding someone to be scum means you are GETTING A READ ON THAT PERSON.
Not "oh I cant read you...so you're scum."

Wish THAT wash.

Vote: pacman

AND AFTER THAT THERE IS THE IECING ON THE CAKE.

FLAIL SPSCUM. FLAIL.
LOOK AT THAT DESPERATE HALF-ASSED ATTACK THAT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE.

[SocioPath]

Vote Count XXVI

~ SECRET INFOS

vezokpiraka (L-2) ~ Me=Weird, pacman, AGar, Locke Lamora, Friend

pacman (L-4) ~

Friend, Furcolow,

Plum, SocioPath, vezokpiraka

Nope, you voting with that guy again you want everyone to believe you thought was scum…on Pac….who is the other wagon???....oh yeah..that guy you want everyone to believe is scummy.


calling bullshit.

Vote: pacman

My gut is now screaming SP, but at one point Pac did stand out..

Unvote, vote Pac….

WHOOPS.

UNVOTE
VOTE: CKD

[SocioPath]

Oh wow.
2032 is GOLDEN.
I want everyone to read that, like 5 times.
DONT SKIP OVER IT DAMMIT.
READ IT.

[SocioPath]

sorry for multi posts...just pissed now....but found interesting on further thought.





I was pissed because the quoted is a different scenario, but then I started thinking about it from SP's POV

you JUMPED off a scum wagon (vezo) to vote with Vezo on Pac...

I jumped off your wagon, to vote with you on pac....

are you calling me a hypocrite with that vote...you must be?

.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
....think you just slipped up bud...
.
for me to be a hypocrite and the scenarios to be exact....I had to have already been on a scum wagon (yours) before switching to Pac...

thank you for making that easy SP.

sorry plum, this seems obvious at this point.

unvote, vote SP

I say both Pac and SP are scum, but SP leads the two...going with gut....

This is the biggest "NO U" misrep of all misreps.

Lets take this step by step, shall we?:

Nope, you voting with that guy again you want everyone to believe you thought was scum…on Pac….who is the other wagon???....oh yeah..that guy you want everyone to believe is scummy.

This is a pretty discombobulated line of thought, but what it is saying is:
'Socio claims that Vezok is scummy, but at the same time Socio unvoted Vezokscum to vote for pacman, why would Socio claim that Vezok is scum and yet vote the same person that Vezokscum is voting for?'

Then in his very next post:

My gut is now screaming SP, but at one point Pac did stand out..

Unvote, vote Pac….

Which is saying:
'I think SP is scum, but at the same time I will unvote Socioscum to vote for pacman, which is the same person that Socioscum is voting for.'


SORRY FOLKS, IT DONT WORK THAT WAY.

[SocioPath]

SUP.
I GOTTA DOC YESTERDAY.
SO I DOC'D PLUM.
GG.

[SocioPath]

Lets take a look at OCCAMS RAZOR SHALL WE?

Scum kill blocked...
Scum know they are screwed...
GAMBIT GAMBIT GAMBIT.

Funny how CKD gets Doc conveniently the same day I do.

[SocioPath]

Fits with CKD's bahvior yesterday much, no?

No, actually.
That is what is the key.

Any breadcrumbs, SP?

No, because you're scum.

Nice false dilemma.
I never crumb, and I never will.
Its a sign of weakness.
I play this game to use psychology to catch people, not soulless sequences and inputs.

[SocioPath]

Fits with CKD's bahvior yesterday much, no?

No, actually.
That is what is the key.

Point this out, please. Explain.

Nothing of CKD's behavior was in anyway indicative of that of a doc...
...but only TODAY does he START BREADCRUMBING?
HOW DOES THAT WORK?

WHY ONLY CRUMB AFTER THE FACT?

If he was in fact a doc who was so concerned about keeping role integrity thru the night, he would have obviously crumbed his role YESTERDAY TOO, WHEN HE GOT IT.

[SocioPath]

Iec should should bandwagon me from the start of any future games, for the entirety of the game.

Although his stances towards me did help discredit him.

[SocioPath]

WAIT WE LOST?

<3

[SocioPath]

I wonder what I could've done to actually get a wagon going on him D4...Glorky can always do it...

Silly Iec Cuebs...
I've only been in 3 games with Glorky.
And you were in each of him.

OS Mafia, he died N1 without any band wagons on me. You died as mafia and lost. I lived until endgame and won as SK.

IA Mafia, he died N1 while wagoning the hell out of me. You died as town and lost. I lived until endgame and won as mafia.

LR II Mafia, he replaced in, and ACTUALLY WAGONED ME TO DEATH! I died D1! But wait... you died as town and lost. GLORKSCUM lived until endgame and we won as mafia.
So the only time he got a wagon going was when it benefited both of us for the win.

So really, if me, you and Glork are in a game...the only things that "always" happen is my winning and your losing.

My blood boils when SP beats me and he's scum and I knew he was scum, but meh.

<3
100%.

Sp was In and out

Yeah, I had a lot on my plate at that time, not really the type to post V/LAs, so I was coasting thru all of my games at that point...but got back on track and picked it back up.