Finishing the update (pages 7-11, now)
Equinox, comes in and explains his unvote. I am actually not understanding the Equinox hate based on the unvote. I think some of his other moves have been scummy (like the initial -1 vote), but the unvote I don’t think was scummy. (no not because he unvoted me)…I have been in plenty of games and unvoted someone based on their posting (Equinox defines this as tone). If he was scum, he would have just kept his vote on me…as others have pointed out, I just claimed vanilla, so it would not have been a stretch for scum to say, “I don’t believe the claim”
SaintKerrigan wrote:
@CKD #83: Firstly: I. Fucking. Hate. Premature. Claims. The only time
anyone
should ever claim, when they're town, is when they feel that their lynch is inevitable, and at the time a CKD definitely was not set in stone. Scumpoints to CKD on this one.
Explain why the claim deserved “scumpoints”..in your words please. I was at -1…others were talking about me being “scummy” at that point…how was it not inevitable? As scum (I know this is WIFOM, but still want an answer)..if I was going to fake claim...why not out attempt to out a doc or a cop? so why is my vanilla claim getting scumpoints from you?
Vi wrote:SaintKerrigan's catchup post is bad, and not just because I got the short end of the opinion poll. The vote comes from nowhere and is placed on the person on the
other
side of who SK evidently thinks is most likely scum (Equinox based on pinging the scumdar and the quote of Let's Attack Vi Over Defending Equinox again), the wall is half whining and griping and leads in no direction, and considering I neatly laid out sr vs. Vi I was hoping for at least some idea of why I didn't come out ahead.
This.
sottyrulez wrote:
I'm arguing that she shouldn't have put CKD at lynch-1 if she didn't want the claim and/or lynch. Saying she didn't expect a claim isn't true.
I also agree with this statement...this would be the only reason Equinox would be scummy. Not the unvote.
SaintKerrigan wrote:
You want me to name a suspect? Very well. You're at the top.
Unvote: nopointinactingup. Vote: Vi.
The nopoint vote has (or should have) served it's purpose. Normally I like to wait until my catchup is finished before I vote, but Vi's #174, in conjunction with what I've already read, simply screams scum to me.
scummy vote.
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Just a side note here, for all of you who said “I don’t believe the vote to get things started, blah blah blah” it most certainly got things started…my name has been mentioned more in every post than any other….maybe its good, maybe its bad, but it definitely has gotten people’s stances, and people’s stances on those stances….so feel free to at this point suck my ass.
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Vi wrote:ckd wrote:curious vi, when should I have claimed? You can shake your finger all you want, but you just avoided lynching town.
You should have claimed when someone asked for a claim, at least if vanilla. With power roles (and scum) things get a little messier but etc.
We all play differently man…just because something works for you, doesn’t me it is the right play. As it stands, my claim…..or tone..or whatever, stopped a town lynch….so, I might have shrank the pool that scum will look for a power role, but I think the trade off is good…we can debate it more end game if you want. The issue is, if you think my claim was a bad move (and this goes for everyone who is saying it) then you must think I am town….
Which is my I don’t understand the sotty revote. He complains about how much of a bad play my claim was….but he has got to think I am town, if he thinks it is a bad play. If he thought I was scum, it was just a fake claim(ie not a bad play, just a play)….
Actually at this point in the reread (page 9), I am not getting a scum vibe off of sotty, BUT the vote doesn’t make sense….so….
Vi wrote:[*ckd - I can vouch that ckd has been busy elsewhere. All things considered I think I'm willing to keep him in the watch-but-more-likely-Town bin.
at this point in the game, it was VERY confirmable...out of 4 games, i was posting in one that needed immediate attention...all others got the "will update soon" posts...looking forward to reading to see if St. K addressed my question in regards to this.
sottyrulez wrote:
CKD, I'm not sure what you are driving at. We were happy with your wagon at the time because we thought you would flip scum, hence our vote.
THEN you claimed in the manner you did.
We became pissed after this because of copious reasons detailed in thread
(math + anti town + shrinking of vanilla pool + etc). An emotion that was further compounded by Equinox's behavior.
THE FACT, you were pissed, meant you thought I was town....so you went from thinking I was scummy, to my claim (or tone), and you becamse pissed because you thought I was town shrinking the PR pool....can you name anyone else in the game that also "changed" their opinion...also, I dont understand your revote at this point..
nopointinactingup wrote:
mine wrote:nopointinactingup wrote:More accurately put, CKD is not playing like his meta, so I have a definite suspicion on him.
Sweet shit, I love posts like this…please, do tell me what my meta is?...since you must have checked a couple games (to include my last mafia role from a year ago)…you must have a solid understanding of my meta…please explain..how do I play as town?...is there any difference between a town vanilla or town power in my play? any games you read that you feel demostrates your theory well?
Sorry I don't stalk. What I meant is meta from the previous game.
That is what I thought, you don’t have a fucking clue about my meta…..that is why your “suspicion” of me is bullshit. a quick look at my wiki and you could find at least one scum game and a dozen town games…but you just want to throw out “he is playing against his meta”….I don’t believe that you believe that.
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Jesus, I got to go….stopping on post 231 on page 10..
At this point, I would probably vote either nopoint or st.K…got to finish the fucking read though…I am trying, but the pages are sooo long.