Mini 1036 - DEFCON Mafia - Over

[Faraday]

I THOUGHT THIS WASN'T A TIME FOR NUKES? WHAT CHANGED?

It's also far from a classic Lylo situation, we effectively have two bites at the cherry, if we go with my plan I don't have to decide which of you is scum which makes it far easier for me. Of course it relies on me being town, which you seem to have been gone from OBV SCUM -> EH MAYBE HE'S LEGIT-> Leaning scum all in the space of ONE FUCKING PAGE.

Anyway wanna hear from HINDU.

[Calcifer]

Wrong. I was telling Andy that what he was presumably thinking of is wrong. I presumed that he was thinking something along the lines of 'oh hey, Hows about Faraday nuke Hindu and failsaife our way to Town victory?'. Nothing contradicts. It's still a crappy plan because it requires trust from Hinduragi for us to be Town. Which is almost equivalent to a vote anyway.

Faraday, do you think Hinduragi is Town?

[Faraday]

I thought you were both fucking town, but was apparently wrong. He's got a better chance of being town than you I think, but there's not really a lot in it. I don't know. I want to re-read but don't have time, when's deadline?

[AlmasterGM]

Hinduragi is being replaced. The deadline will be frozen until someone is found. Sorry about the hassle, and thanks for your patience.

[Fate]

Ill replace. In I've had this bookmarked since day2 anyway

[AlmasterGM]

[DEFCON Mafia - Day 5, DEFCON 1 - Announcement]

Awesome ... Fate replaces Hinduragi, effective immediately. Many, many thanks to Fate!

[Fate]

K so I just blew a game for town at LyLo, so I'm not throwing a vote down-

THIS IS A PROMISE-

for at least 24 hours.

Self-discipline FTW.

Though from what I HAVE READ of the game I think my slot Nuked Socioscum, so you two should've cross-voted a long time ago herpa derpa???

[Fate]

Ok so town and scum were able to talk when roles were being given out,


Am I reading this right? During D0 everyone choose: Missle Silo, Offensive, Defensive, but they didn't just choose Offensive/Defensive, they had to make a LIST or which actions they would want to choose?

This game should be easily broken based off massclaim.

If someone could make that list for me that'd be nice.

[Fate]

Is there anyway I can lynch+nuke at the same time for TOTAL ANNIHILATION of both of you so I don't have to re-read this in full?
<_<
>_>

[Fate]

SO TO MAKE THINGS INTERESTING IVE DECIDED TO CATCH UP BY SKIMMING RANDOM PAGES SINCE MS IS LOADING SLOW:

It doesn't mean what I thought it meant. I meant that I think going defensive to grab the sub is all well and good, but you making the

same

error and ending up with an effectively untestable claim...? And the not claiming yesterday.... And I don't think it's a very pro-town thing to pick, also....

I stand by my strong townread of Hinduragi, and though I have doubts about Zhero and Calcifer, the more I think about it the more I like Faraday as the last scum.

Vote: Faraday

.

This contrasted with Faraday's words today about "HRMZMMZMMZ I WOULDA JUST KILLED HINDU AND HAD PERCY VOTE YOU IN ENDGAME OUT THE GATE" means the rest of this day should be interesting to read (FTR I think this game should be broken by reading D4 alone, but will read the rest of it due to self-discipline eventually), because unless Percy starts hating on Calcifer CONSIDERABLY Faraday's "zomgwifom" about the NK today looks terribad:

Current Re-read Status: D5 Skimmed, D4, (trying to find the start of D4 by clicking backwards)
Current Read status: On board to nuke Faradaysafescum, (I WANNA NUKE SOMEONE)

[Fate]

OBTW, we tracked SpyreX to Sociopath.

We did it in case SpyreX was scum, and tried to get a ML today.

WHA...

WHAT
T
HEFU
CUK

WHAT?








SPYREX? THE ONE WHO I REMEMBER READING AS OUTING RC SCUM AS THE FUCKING COP?


ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

CURRENT READ STATUS: CALCIFER NEEDS DEATH.

[Fate]

*chants 24 hours Fate 24 hours Fate*

Seriously I don't understand. If Spy had claimed a guilty on a townie Hindu would have nuked that person THEN they lynch someone. AND IF THE PERSON SPY CLAIMED A GUILTY ON WAS TOWN AND THEY FLIPPED TOWN AFTER A NUKE SPY WOULD BE THAT LYNCH

This REEKS of "I don't want to clear anymore peoplez with mah abilities" INFO. TRACKING SPYREX MAKES NO SENSE IN ANY UNIVERSE

HOLY HELL.

*24 hours Fate 24 hours*

[Fate]

K BEING A SOCIOPATH ALT AND SOCIO BEING SCUM AND HIM NOT POINTING OUT THIS SLIP BY CALCIFER (aka if Calcifer were town Socio would most DEFINITELY push a mislynch on him) =CALCIFER+SOCIO:

AlmasterGM wrote:
SocioPath has received his second prod.
Wow...
That prod was 7 posts away from my last post.


Percy wrote:
And Sociopath, you're saying I messed up your Doombunny read? What even?
No, I was referring to Hindu and your flooded texts from your role.
Percy wrote:
Are you sold enough on your case to nuke Hinduragi?
I'll leave that question to the philosophers.
Percy wrote:
Your instant turn on Doombunny the next day took most of the bite out of it.
What is this?
Aut Tace Aut Meliora Loq

^FIRST SOCIOPOST AFTER CALCIFER'S SLIP.

FARADAY BETTER HAMMER A TOWNIE SOON OR MY RE-READS GETTIN CUT SHORT.

*slow down Fate read everything first*

NO. I REFUSE TO LOSE TO VVSCUM WHEN HE HAS DONE VERY SCUM THINGS.

[Fate]

"@ Faraday: VV voted you. I was the part before the cotecount, IIRC.

What do want from us, Hindu? Permission to nuke?"-Calcifer

"How about an opinion on whether you think Sociopath is scum, first?"-Percy

IS FARADAY GOING TO SLIP UP SOON OR IS THE CASE ON HIM JUST "fluffy mcPostingstyle" ??

[Fate]

Hmmmmm claims are the only thing holding me back.


LOLRADAR vs. Scumsafe is pretty clear as far as potential power usage goes. With Radar only there to out Town PRs and failsafe to be used as one of those "OH YEAH IM SCUM GETTIN NUKED? WELL YOURE DEAD TOO BITCH" and to hinder Town nukers nuking a claimed failsafe ("but i dun wanna die) etc.

ALSO the fact that (if I'm getting the roles wrong, someone correct me) ZHERO had to choose who to "nukeblock" the night after RC was lynched. Which means the REASON Faradayscum wouldn't have claimed when RC did is because if he did, Zhero might have not blocked Socio and let Socio test his nukeshot on Faraday (resulting in a double lynch, and also a instant town win.)

MORE AS I GO.

[Fate]

Hindu apparently had a strong town read on Faraday.

Hrmmmmm. Is that why I was left alive?

*glares*

OH HERE IT IS:

In summary: Calcifer is the last scum.

If I'm right, then I'm sorry, Zhero. I got to my re-read too late to save you.
(If I'm wrong and you're scum, then I'm not sorry, and I thank my past self for not being so doubtful.)
((If I'm wrong and you're town, then I'm giving up playing mafia.))

Hinduragi and Faraday are now solid town for me. I will not vote for them. If I'm alive tomorrow and we haven't won, I'll be voting Calcifer as soon as day breaks.

There's nothing else to be said, really. Night all.

...

Walp.

*throws Faraday scumtheory out the window* Unless Faraday is PARANOIDZ and thought Percy was lying about his "vote out of gate" strategy and rather stick to HINDU who had a more geniune "Faraday strong town read" being his votin buddy in LyLo.


HAVE YOU TWO MADE CASES ON EACHOTHER I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT YET OR WERE YOU JUST BOTH TWIDDLING YOUR THUMBS UNTIL THIS SLOT POSTED STUFF?

BAH.

[Fate]

WOW.

VV TRIPLE posts defending himself AFTER Zhero is lynched?

Smells TOO much of "I know Zhero is town and I'll need to duke it out tomorrow" posting.

*24HOURSFATE+THE WHOLE THREAD*

SHUT UP YOU I CAN MAKE SNAP DECISIONS AND BE RIGHT DIDNT YOU SEE WHAT I DID IN [ONGOING GAME] HAVING ONLY READ 3 PAGES?

[Fate]

I'll re-read the other days tomorrow, how the hell I spent two hours on this thread I'll never know

[Faraday]

*throws Faraday scumtheory out the window* Unless Faraday is PARANOIDZ and thought Percy was lying about his "vote out of gate" strategy and rather stick to HINDU who had a more geniune "Faraday strong town read" being his votin buddy in LyLo.

Except leaving a nuke alive in LYLO gives the town 2 bites at the cherry as I've already said, a lynch on me and a nuke on whoever. It's just bad play for anyone but Hindu to leave Hindu alive, which is the only real reason I'm hesitating. Percy's town read was obviously pretty real (he unvoted me just previously).

Making a case is pointless, Calcifier should be nuked REGARDLESS. Then either you/me are quicklynched to give a better chance of victory. I'd prefer that to be you due to LOL KNOWING MY PM, but I doubt either you or calcifier are going to agree.

[Calcifer]

I'm cool with getting nuked, so long as we have the lynch ready on the last scum.
So yeah. Once we're ready to get voting drop the nuke on us.

Waiting on Vas for something...

Andy

[Fate]

So...

SO.... I DO GET TO NUKE SOMEONE?????!??

HOW DOEZ THAT WORKZ?

Nuke+wait 71hours+Hammerz+Nuke explodes+??? PROFIT?

[Fate]

No but seriously, did anyone get mod confirmation on this?

MOD: If Town is lynched at 3p and their are nukes in the air, do the scum win automatically or do the nukes land post-lynch and then win conditions are resolved?

^THIS QUESTION DECIDES THE GAME, CAUSE IF YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD GET AWAY WITH "yeah Nuke me s'all good, just get ready for quick lynchez" WITHOUT ME CHECKING YOURE WRONG DAMN IT.

No. As outlined in both the scum and town and scum win conditions, at least one member of their factions must survive for at least 72 hours after all enemy nations have been eliminated in order for them to win, which leaves ample time for any stray nukes in the air to land (even if their launchers are dead). --AGM

[Andrius]

It should be like

Last Man Standing

where nuked/injured people would just die.
So nuking me should still work.

[Fate]

So uhhh then what the hell is this all about?

As Faraday said, there's no need to make cases.

I have no interest in convincing your slot (Calcifer) that Faraday should be voted over me, as you are most likely scum in this case. I could EVEN go so far as to see VVclown sending in a Percy kill then forgetting that puts them in an unwinnable situation vs. a nuke just because he was like "FUCK PERCYS ON TO US! DIE DIE DIE!"

I also have no interest in sitting here bickering with Faraday about how my slot (aka HINDU not even me) is more likely town than his slot, as that would devolve into some Player-hatin that no be necessary for this game (fucking Troll in my head), as lynching/nuking you will end the game as far as I'm concerned.

I mean, HOW THE HELL WOULD THAT EVEN GO:
Fate: NO CALCIFERSCUM SHOULD QUICKLYNCH YOU FARADAY!
Faraday: NO U, U IZ SCUMBAGZ?
Fate: NO DIE FARADAY PROBTOWN DIE HINDU WAS SUPER TOWN BC oF X Y Z
Faraday: THERE ARE NO X Y OR ZS IN THE BRITISH ALPHABET, AKA YOU DIE.
Fate: ?????

[Andrius]

VV lurked through the night. I submitted the NP action without him. :/

So fine.
Nuke me and let's lynch Faraday.