Open 250 - Pie E7 Mark II

[nopointinactingup]

ZOMG, Shotty roleblocked me and killed ... Vi =)

By the way, I'm sorry for suspecting you Equinox...

QFT ^^

Well VP had to replace out because of an accident that was my fault... blah.

Basically I was sorting through thoughts to Sotty, but I didn't pay attention to the messenger window and sent said messages to VP instead. (They made our alignment obvious.) VP was unable to continue without revealing his alignment to us as a result, so he had to replace out.

I feel so bad about the whole thing.

xD What would you have done VP?

So once again my reads were straight off the path. But Vi saves the day I guess . After some of Equinox's crazy posts I didn't think Equinox was scum any more and started working on my failed [Vi-CKD] theory xD, until Vi's benchmark post ofcourse.

[VP Baltar]

What would you have done VP?

You mean if I had been able to stay? I would have obv claimed vanilla and prayed that SK did the same. That leaves five players, three of whom are town, to be lynched. I also would have shoveled dirt on Vi for wanting MC in the first place because the obviously play for scum is to claim vanilla and thus make the PRs completely null. I would have gone for basically any mislynch at that point, preferring Vi if possible. RB sotty that night and kill you obv.

Presuming SK didn't get lynched Day 1 (and it was heading there, but MC might have shifted focus), that would leave VP, SK, ckd, Equinox, SR in lylo. I probably would have tried to stir up SR towards Equinox again. I don't know if I could have flopped on ckd, but he was pretty much not contributing at that point, so it would have been possible.

I actually think my play this game wasn't all that bad. I was in a fairly decent position with no one other than Vi stating any kind of serious suspicions my way. But, that's the way the cookie crumbles I guess. SK needed to participate and lynching him D1 probably would have ended in a town victory as well, so that's the real key to the puzzle of 'if things could only have been different'.

[Sotty7]

Ugh this game....

The quick lynch makes up for it though.

<3 Vi

[VP Baltar]

sorry, my lylo prediction is my optimal situation lylo. it would be two of [ckd, Equinox, SR]

[VP Baltar]

*Vi not SR

I'm obviously barely coherent at this point.

[SaintKerrigan]

Ugh, I really didn't want to replace out, but real life left me with no time to concentrate on playing mafia, period. Sorry I didn't give you guys a better run for your money.

When I was able to focus and concentrate, I did enjoy the game. You guys were a blast (even amidst all the massive flame assaults and walls of text), and Jason modded well. Would love to play with any of you again when I can actually concentrate on what I'm doing and not be constantly trying to catch up.

[SaintKerrigan]

Also, CKD was right. Karma really is a bitch.

[Vi]

You all FAIL at quicklynches forever. Six posts when you could have done it in three. (But it still gets this game on the records page.)

I would have obv claimed vanilla and prayed that SK did the same.

And you both would have been lynched. You couldn't have flung enough dirt on me to get out of that massclaim.

SaintKerrigan, I respect that your life is busy, but considering at the time the mod got your replacement request you were essentially dead-halfZerg-walking anyway why did you stop the game until jason could basically find someone willing to pick up a guaranteed loss?

Equinox: Put your big girl pants on and get your avatar back. I'm being serious.

[Vi]

Also, CKD was right. Karma really is a bitch.

Curious karma, dog.

[VP Baltar]

And you both would have been lynched. You couldn't have flung enough dirt on me to get out of that massclaim.

Well, not to get into ego wars or anything, but I wasn't afraid of your massclaim in the least. My main concern was SK claiming vanilla and not trying to do what my replacement did. I know you felt like you were running things at the time, but I didn't really feel like you were in a considerably better position with Equinox or NPAU than I was. I think it would have been very arguable that you as scum would have wanted massclaim at the same time.

[VP Baltar]

It wasn't really about getting out of massclaim so much as it was about making you look bad for wanting it.

[Sotty7]

I think "Ego wars" is a great title for this game

[VP Baltar]

lol, ditto

[Vi]

It didn't matter if you were afraid of the massclaim. What mattered was that Equinox and sottyrulez bought into my explanation. Had either of them not been convinced at the reveal, then yes, this game would have turned out even better for you than it already was.

I think "Ego wars" is a great title for this game

I agree, but it was a bit too painful to watch for my taste.

And I modded MoHO

[SaintKerrigan]

SaintKerrigan, I respect that your life is busy, but considering at the time the mod got your replacement request you were essentially dead-halfZerg-walking anyway why did you stop the game until jason could basically find someone willing to pick up a guaranteed loss?

Because when I initially submitted the replacement request, I didn't realize it was night. The scumteam didn't have a chance in hell of winning with me still playing anyway due to said RL interference, so I felt replacing me with someone hopefully more active gave my team a better shot at winning. I did toy with the idea of NKing myself for a while, though, because after I skimmed I realized how deep I was in shit.

[Zachrulez]

When Vi explained the vanilla read on Equinox it made sense to me.

I'm not sure how convincing it would have been for me had it happened without VP's slot claiming cop though. (Which made Vi/Equinox impossible.)

[Vi]

When Vi explained the vanilla read on Equinox it made sense to me.

I'm not sure how convincing it would have been for me had it happened without VP's slot claiming cop though. (Which made Vi/Equinox impossible.)

Even if you lynched me, you could have just followed my instructions the next Day and lynched scum over the next two Days.

Of course, nobody ever listens to dead people so it's a good thing stuff happened the way it did!

[Zachrulez]

When Vi explained the vanilla read on Equinox it made sense to me.

I'm not sure how convincing it would have been for me had it happened without VP's slot claiming cop though. (Which made Vi/Equinox impossible.)

Even if you lynched me, you could have just followed my instructions the next Day and lynched scum over the next two Days.

Of course, nobody ever listens to dead people so it's a good thing stuff happened the way it did!

You probably won't believe me, but right about at the point VP replaced out, I essentially pulled a 180 and decided after mulling over equinox's reactions that she was town. This created the most awkward part of the game for our hydra as I managed to convince Sotty that she was scum right before that.

[Zachrulez]

And we were happy to do the town bloc thing when initially offered after thinking it over knowing that we could just investigate one of Vi or VP anyway. Heh...

[VP Baltar]

It didn't matter if you were afraid of the massclaim. What mattered was that Equinox and sottyrulez bought into my explanation. Had either of them not been convinced at the reveal, then yes, this game would have turned out even better for you than it already was.

FWIW, I was going to argue that massclaiming was a bad idea because the scum would just claim vanilla and the town would really be no better off than it already was. I was kind of sad that the scum after me didn't pursue this line of thought, but not much you can do I suppose.

[curiouskarmadog]

i got ready to say, i didnt think VP was the type to leave a game.

[VP Baltar]

Nah, I've only ever replaced out of one game and that was because I had way too much RL stuff going on. I definitely wouldn't have left here if I absolutely didn't have to.

[Sotty7]

I think I get drunk off Zach's... enthusiasm when we hydra and become a lot more aggressive as a result. But he does change his mind a lot which makes my head spin. Managed to get wrapped up in Equinox too much, newbie 960 all over again *sigh*. Defo could have played this one better. We should have just lynched VP when I busted him on page one

But thanks for modding Jason, only thing I would say was could have done with a few more vote counts during day one. But over all a good job.

[curiouskarmadog]

i gots to get myself a hydra.

[Vi]

i gots to get myself a hydra.

All the cool kids are getting one. In fact, I have one and I'm not one of the cool kids
I'm honestly surprised that I've actually had two legitimate reasons to use it in the past two weeks tbh, but I'm grateful for it.