Mini 1036 - DEFCON Mafia - Over

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Ill replace. In I've had this bookmarked since day2 anyway

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K so I just blew a game for town at LyLo, so I'm not throwing a vote down-

THIS IS A PROMISE-

for at least 24 hours.

Self-discipline FTW.

Though from what I HAVE READ of the game I think my slot Nuked Socioscum, so you two should've cross-voted a long time ago herpa derpa???

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Ok so town and scum were able to talk when roles were being given out,


Am I reading this right? During D0 everyone choose: Missle Silo, Offensive, Defensive, but they didn't just choose Offensive/Defensive, they had to make a LIST or which actions they would want to choose?

This game should be easily broken based off massclaim.

If someone could make that list for me that'd be nice.

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Is there anyway I can lynch+nuke at the same time for TOTAL ANNIHILATION of both of you so I don't have to re-read this in full?
<_<
>_>

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SO TO MAKE THINGS INTERESTING IVE DECIDED TO CATCH UP BY SKIMMING RANDOM PAGES SINCE MS IS LOADING SLOW:

It doesn't mean what I thought it meant. I meant that I think going defensive to grab the sub is all well and good, but you making the

same

error and ending up with an effectively untestable claim...? And the not claiming yesterday.... And I don't think it's a very pro-town thing to pick, also....

I stand by my strong townread of Hinduragi, and though I have doubts about Zhero and Calcifer, the more I think about it the more I like Faraday as the last scum.

Vote: Faraday

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This contrasted with Faraday's words today about "HRMZMMZMMZ I WOULDA JUST KILLED HINDU AND HAD PERCY VOTE YOU IN ENDGAME OUT THE GATE" means the rest of this day should be interesting to read (FTR I think this game should be broken by reading D4 alone, but will read the rest of it due to self-discipline eventually), because unless Percy starts hating on Calcifer CONSIDERABLY Faraday's "zomgwifom" about the NK today looks terribad:

Current Re-read Status: D5 Skimmed, D4, (trying to find the start of D4 by clicking backwards)
Current Read status: On board to nuke Faradaysafescum, (I WANNA NUKE SOMEONE)

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OBTW, we tracked SpyreX to Sociopath.

We did it in case SpyreX was scum, and tried to get a ML today.

WHA...

WHAT
T
HEFU
CUK

WHAT?








SPYREX? THE ONE WHO I REMEMBER READING AS OUTING RC SCUM AS THE FUCKING COP?


ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

CURRENT READ STATUS: CALCIFER NEEDS DEATH.

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*chants 24 hours Fate 24 hours Fate*

Seriously I don't understand. If Spy had claimed a guilty on a townie Hindu would have nuked that person THEN they lynch someone. AND IF THE PERSON SPY CLAIMED A GUILTY ON WAS TOWN AND THEY FLIPPED TOWN AFTER A NUKE SPY WOULD BE THAT LYNCH

This REEKS of "I don't want to clear anymore peoplez with mah abilities" INFO. TRACKING SPYREX MAKES NO SENSE IN ANY UNIVERSE

HOLY HELL.

*24 hours Fate 24 hours*

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K BEING A SOCIOPATH ALT AND SOCIO BEING SCUM AND HIM NOT POINTING OUT THIS SLIP BY CALCIFER (aka if Calcifer were town Socio would most DEFINITELY push a mislynch on him) =CALCIFER+SOCIO:

AlmasterGM wrote:
SocioPath has received his second prod.
Wow...
That prod was 7 posts away from my last post.


Percy wrote:
And Sociopath, you're saying I messed up your Doombunny read? What even?
No, I was referring to Hindu and your flooded texts from your role.
Percy wrote:
Are you sold enough on your case to nuke Hinduragi?
I'll leave that question to the philosophers.
Percy wrote:
Your instant turn on Doombunny the next day took most of the bite out of it.
What is this?
Aut Tace Aut Meliora Loq

^FIRST SOCIOPOST AFTER CALCIFER'S SLIP.

FARADAY BETTER HAMMER A TOWNIE SOON OR MY RE-READS GETTIN CUT SHORT.

*slow down Fate read everything first*

NO. I REFUSE TO LOSE TO VVSCUM WHEN HE HAS DONE VERY SCUM THINGS.

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"@ Faraday: VV voted you. I was the part before the cotecount, IIRC.

What do want from us, Hindu? Permission to nuke?"-Calcifer

"How about an opinion on whether you think Sociopath is scum, first?"-Percy

IS FARADAY GOING TO SLIP UP SOON OR IS THE CASE ON HIM JUST "fluffy mcPostingstyle" ??

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Hmmmmm claims are the only thing holding me back.


LOLRADAR vs. Scumsafe is pretty clear as far as potential power usage goes. With Radar only there to out Town PRs and failsafe to be used as one of those "OH YEAH IM SCUM GETTIN NUKED? WELL YOURE DEAD TOO BITCH" and to hinder Town nukers nuking a claimed failsafe ("but i dun wanna die) etc.

ALSO the fact that (if I'm getting the roles wrong, someone correct me) ZHERO had to choose who to "nukeblock" the night after RC was lynched. Which means the REASON Faradayscum wouldn't have claimed when RC did is because if he did, Zhero might have not blocked Socio and let Socio test his nukeshot on Faraday (resulting in a double lynch, and also a instant town win.)

MORE AS I GO.

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Hindu apparently had a strong town read on Faraday.

Hrmmmmm. Is that why I was left alive?

*glares*

OH HERE IT IS:

In summary: Calcifer is the last scum.

If I'm right, then I'm sorry, Zhero. I got to my re-read too late to save you.
(If I'm wrong and you're scum, then I'm not sorry, and I thank my past self for not being so doubtful.)
((If I'm wrong and you're town, then I'm giving up playing mafia.))

Hinduragi and Faraday are now solid town for me. I will not vote for them. If I'm alive tomorrow and we haven't won, I'll be voting Calcifer as soon as day breaks.

There's nothing else to be said, really. Night all.

...

Walp.

*throws Faraday scumtheory out the window* Unless Faraday is PARANOIDZ and thought Percy was lying about his "vote out of gate" strategy and rather stick to HINDU who had a more geniune "Faraday strong town read" being his votin buddy in LyLo.


HAVE YOU TWO MADE CASES ON EACHOTHER I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT YET OR WERE YOU JUST BOTH TWIDDLING YOUR THUMBS UNTIL THIS SLOT POSTED STUFF?

BAH.

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WOW.

VV TRIPLE posts defending himself AFTER Zhero is lynched?

Smells TOO much of "I know Zhero is town and I'll need to duke it out tomorrow" posting.

*24HOURSFATE+THE WHOLE THREAD*

SHUT UP YOU I CAN MAKE SNAP DECISIONS AND BE RIGHT DIDNT YOU SEE WHAT I DID IN [ONGOING GAME] HAVING ONLY READ 3 PAGES?

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I'll re-read the other days tomorrow, how the hell I spent two hours on this thread I'll never know

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So...

SO.... I DO GET TO NUKE SOMEONE?????!??

HOW DOEZ THAT WORKZ?

Nuke+wait 71hours+Hammerz+Nuke explodes+??? PROFIT?

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No but seriously, did anyone get mod confirmation on this?

MOD: If Town is lynched at 3p and their are nukes in the air, do the scum win automatically or do the nukes land post-lynch and then win conditions are resolved?

^THIS QUESTION DECIDES THE GAME, CAUSE IF YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD GET AWAY WITH "yeah Nuke me s'all good, just get ready for quick lynchez" WITHOUT ME CHECKING YOURE WRONG DAMN IT.

No. As outlined in both the scum and town and scum win conditions, at least one member of their factions must survive for at least 72 hours after all enemy nations have been eliminated in order for them to win, which leaves ample time for any stray nukes in the air to land (even if their launchers are dead). --AGM

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So uhhh then what the hell is this all about?

As Faraday said, there's no need to make cases.

I have no interest in convincing your slot (Calcifer) that Faraday should be voted over me, as you are most likely scum in this case. I could EVEN go so far as to see VVclown sending in a Percy kill then forgetting that puts them in an unwinnable situation vs. a nuke just because he was like "FUCK PERCYS ON TO US! DIE DIE DIE!"

I also have no interest in sitting here bickering with Faraday about how my slot (aka HINDU not even me) is more likely town than his slot, as that would devolve into some Player-hatin that no be necessary for this game (fucking Troll in my head), as lynching/nuking you will end the game as far as I'm concerned.

I mean, HOW THE HELL WOULD THAT EVEN GO:
Fate: NO CALCIFERSCUM SHOULD QUICKLYNCH YOU FARADAY!
Faraday: NO U, U IZ SCUMBAGZ?
Fate: NO DIE FARADAY PROBTOWN DIE HINDU WAS SUPER TOWN BC oF X Y Z
Faraday: THERE ARE NO X Y OR ZS IN THE BRITISH ALPHABET, AKA YOU DIE.
Fate: ?????

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ITS BEEN 24 HOURS BABY.

I'm still not lifting a finger until I get confirmation from AGMod about the mechanics.

No way I'm letting you slip through with some crazy scheme Andrius....

YOU THINK YOU CAN PULL ONE ON DARTHFATE???!

(Your question has been answered - I edited it into the post where it was asked. --AGM)

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LOOKS LIKE ITS NUKIN TIME.

NUKE: CALCIFER

GG TOWN WIN REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS

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Vote: Faraday

VV are you guys seriously town? Don't fuck with me now, its over...

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Yeah...

So what the fuck did Faraday just forget to send in a night kill and it got randomized?

That shit makes no sense at all from what you guys have said about the mechanics...

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AH WELL EITHER WAY.

Free town win for skimming through a game while it was going on, then replacing in and reading 6 pages

>_>b

10/10 WOULD DO AGAIN THANKS FOR MODDING AGM.


KEKAHAHAHA SOCIOPATH YOU CAN POST NOW I BEAT YOU AS SCUM THIS TIME. YES I'M COUNTING IT.

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(we're only supposed use those Darth titles when we're scum Andrius)

BUT YEAH ANDRIUS+FATE TOWN WIN? BOUT TIME

(actually this is the first time we were town together, and still we've never both started out the game as town and played the whole thing together, so we still gotta try again in. Hopefully [REDACTED] is that game /grin)

Pre-Edit: OH YOU.

YOU ACT LIKE YOU HAVE SOME GRUDGE AGAINST ME FROM SOME GAME THAT NEVER HAPPENED

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Hindu's play was fucking amazing. I still haven't read the thread, but Hindu's ISO and his interactions with RC were EXCELLENT.

His Cryptoshit in the QT was GENIUS, and Percy cleared him for that so he was DOUBLECLEAREDZ.

He ran into trouble when he had to nuke Socio, because that left him with a dicey 3p endgame where THERE WAS NO REASON FOR ANYONE TO LEAVE HINDU ALIVE BUT HINDU (Faraday was far too intelligent to have made this mistake, which was thankfully countered by VV who was less so and thought he WOULD make that mistake >_>)

And of course the perfect replacement to rush things a long and get VV trigger happy.

ALL AS PLANNED.

ALL AS PLANNED MAH FRIENDS. BTW I DID SCUMCLAIM:

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ITS BEEN 24 HOURS BABY.

I'm still not lifting a finger until I get confirmation from AGMod about the mechanics.

No way I'm letting you slip through with some crazy scheme Andrius....

YOU THINK YOU CAN PULL ONE ON

DARTHFATE???!

(we're only supposed use those Darth titles when we're scum Andrius)

WHOOPS.

>_>
<_<

GG SOCIO.

GG RC.

GG SPYREX, WHO CAUSED TOWNS DOWNFALL BY ASKING ME TO REPLACE IN.

MHWHAHAHHAAHAHAHHA

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The best thing about this set-up is it is completely open and can be played again and SHOULD be modded again.

+100 Awesome AGM points.

/pre-in for the next one since you post sign-ups when I'm not looking.

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QT preview:

I was going to start spamming the shit out of it in my normal Fate manner, BUT THEN I remembered that DayTalk posts could be intercepted and I was like "OH SHIT OH SHIT"

Then I thought maybe I SHOULD still spam it in an attempt to make it look like Calcifer was framing me.... when one got intercepted.

But then I realized that I didn't need to frame Calcifer to win, as he was already getting nuked, but rather buddy up to him and get him to vote Faraday. And if he saw another DayQT post in all caps, he'd know it was probably me who forgot that they could be intercepted.

>_>b

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My god, I just read the flavor...

AGM I was reluctant to nom you for best set-up again because you'd be competing against yourself for the scummy, BUT I CAN'T RESIST.

ITS JUST TOO AWESOME.

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and of course fate is lying idiots, he claims scum after town hammers and vice versa.

Oooh how did I miss this page?

<3 you know me all too well.

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Oh, Fate, thanks for coming in and winning it for us, too.

ITS WHAT I DO <3

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However good things can ALWAYS be improved, here's some gut-thoughts about the set-up:

Special Ops Strike: In order to carry out a successful nuclear strike, it is crucial to ensure the missile will not be deflected and the enemy left unscathed and free to retaliate. Special infiltration teams are secretly positioned in every enemy nation, read to make sure this happens when the brass gives the word. {If target player is currently deploying a missile silo in anti-ballistic missile mode, destroy it. If that player is not, I will reveal to them that you targeted them with this ability.}

Um, what? This role is really weak. It is a role designed to let scum be able to nuke at will (supposedly) but it is so situational that it would never be picked by a scumteam with only 3 choices. I don't see why town would pick this either. ALSO the fact that if the person ISNT deploying nukes, they got told they were targeted? That's suicide for a scum member.

Improve:
-Make it a disabler. I.e., you secretly go in, disable that person's role COMPLETELY for one cycle. Then it becomes very viable.

Aircraft Carrier: The monstrous aircraft carrier is capable of parking itself just outside territorial waters, allowing it to shoot down enemy troops or ICBMs before they leave enemy territory and become a threat to the globe. {Choose one: All abilities activated by target player fail; OR during the following day, prevent all nuclear launches made by target player.}

Oh... that's what this role was for. *shrug* I still think it would be better as a sure-fire thing, aka ALL abilities/nukes are stopped.

Eavesdrop: A crucial part of the Allies’ success during WWII was its ability to crack into German communications. It worked then. Why wouldn’t it work now? {In DEFCON 3 or below, every time a member of an opposing faction communicates with another member of its faction privately during the night, there is a 5% chance the message will be intercepted and its contents PM’d to you. During the day, this possibility increases to 30%.}

Love it of course, 10/10

Air base: Capable of deploying a wide variety of response aircraft within seconds and fortified to the brink, any infrastructure surrounding the air base becomes incredibly difficult to penetrate. {You are immune to non-nuclear activated abilities except the Stealth Bomber.}

K this one needs tweaking. As is, it isn't viable AT ALL for scum topic (aka since its a scum-only role, anyone who gets a "Ability failed." or "No result" on that person gets lynched IMMEDIATELY because there's no reason for town to want protection from town abilities., so its pointless.

Suggestion:
-Make it immune Stealth Bomber, but not nukes. This makes it viable for TOWN to pick, as they become bulletproof (but not overpowered since they can't be cleared by Espionage AND remain bulletproof, and they can also be nuked), which makes it more viable for SCUM to pick as well since scum now have a town-excuse for picking it.

Fail Safe: Courtesy of Dr Strangelove or: How I learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb {If you are targeted by a player with a nuclear launch, you automatically launch a nuclear weapon targeting the player targeting you. Your launch cannot be recalled or prevented}.

Great role for town to screw scum with and vice versa via gambits. Love it.


I'd love to see this done Large scale.

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Read the dead QT:

YEAH SPYREX WHY THE FFFFFF DID YOU TAKE COP OVER NUKE?

Well, bah.

I hope Calcifer is the last scum. I even wrote the post where I voted him overnight. I'm convinced he's scum, and if Hindu or Faraday are scum I will be very confused!

but if you woke up and saw Hindu not dead (as you were expecting) you likely would have re-thought it to hell and back. I think Hindu's kill-choice was good.

Though your further QT posts makes it seem like you really were going to vote out of the gate?? Not even I'm that reckless Percy >_>

(that QT LyLo was f'in hilarous you mofos)