Mini #1081 - SitMOA Mafia (Endgame... Congrats, winners!)

[Katsuki]

/confirm

vezok's back?

[Katsuki]

Mod also neds to get in and get this thing started. All but gandalf have conformed to snow_bunny.

[Katsuki]

COUNTERCLAIM: DAYVIG

DAYVIG: NARSIS

[Katsuki]

Also, snow_bunny is my partner. Discuss.

[Katsuki]

Vote: Andrew

I never claimed scum.

[Katsuki]

CC: dayvig

Dayvig: Katsuki

I SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING THERE.

[Katsuki]

Also, snow_bunny is my partner. Discuss.

Congrats, you can quote.

Now please tell me where I claimed scum, scumdrew.

[Katsuki]

Unsurprisingly, chesskid doesn't bother to read.

[Katsuki]

SHIT PRESSED TAB INSTEAD OF MA HANDY DANDY CAPS KEY. THEN HIT ENTER. = =

IN OTHER NEWS, 2 SCUM DOWN IN CHESSKID AND ANDREW.

[Katsuki]

When will the last guys confirm?

We already have 11. No idea where snow disappeared off to

[Katsuki]

RVS is not over.

^scumstatement.

[Katsuki]

What impatience... I was reading the effing thread.

Malthusis, tell me this. What is the difference between 3 seperate players claiming dayvig, and me claiming "partners" with the mod?

If it means anything for you though, I am mason-lovers with snow_bunny I get to talk to her any time of the day.
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In other news, CK seems to be trying hard to play town leader.

"HAI GUYZ RVS IS NOT OVER UNTIL I SAYS SO KEKEKE!!11!!1 K NOW IT OVER CUZ I SAYS SO!

I'm noting this down for future reference.
Actually, @CK: What is your definition of RVS? What do you think it is for?

Andrew is probably town.

Doombunny, I still hate you for reasons that you probably still remember.

Adumbro badly needs to comment on this game. All he has is one random vote, on pg4 no less.

@Malthusis: Why do you only ask for my prod, when adumbro has posted absolutely nothing thus far in this game? Do you have reasons for wanting to let him slide and skate through this game?

[Katsuki]

Oh, forgot.

Unvote, Vote: Adumbro

[Katsuki]

Chess is making me raise my eyebrow........... But I've played with him before, and this is all pretty normal stuff, so until he does something really drastic, my vote stays where it is.

This is pretty much the same problem with YOU, gandalf, in that, you guys generally say and do such ridiculous things that, when you do it as scum, it STILL looks normal.

In essence, what I am saying is, saying that "extraordinary" stuff is "pretty normal stuff" is kind of like throwing a smokescreen on your play.

[Katsuki]

Uh, no, it was over because there was actually content to analyize, namely opportunistic votes on me based on the false assertation that pages 1-3 contained any actual content. The obvious point of that being that I was "supposed to" vote for Andrew, when he's done absolutely nothing scummy.
Hence why I figure one of the people voting for me is scum, since a negative reaction to not voting andrew is not pro-town.

Also Narsis needs to answer my questions.

ANY QUESTIONS?

My point that RVS was already over was that, by pg2, there was content to analyze, namely as you said, reactions to votes and what not.

CK, if you are willing to move your vote onto malthusis, I will be perfectly willing to sheep you onto that.

[Katsuki]

What impatience... I was reading the effing thread.

Malthusis, tell me this. What is the difference between 3 seperate players claiming dayvig, and me claiming "partners" with the mod?

If it means anything for you though, I am mason-lovers with snow_bunny I get to talk to her any time of the day.

Impatience? I might have gotten slightly annoyed, but considering I asked you 3 times in posts #53, 95, and 122, I was getting tired on waiting. Also, even an idiot would realize the davig claims were jokes

Considering what you just said about the dayvig thing, I find it interesting that you should push for the "partners with the mod" thing 3 times after.

@Malthusis: Why do you only ask for my prod, when adumbro has posted absolutely nothing thus far in this game? Do you have reasons for wanting to let him slide and skate through this game?

I'm sorry, but there's not much I can do. Ambro did post in #89, and can't be prodded yet. I'm waiting for some information too, but unless you want to take a LAL stance (which I really don't want to do), I might as well question the people here.

Unvote

My point is not prods. My point is you just leaving him be. If someone posts nothing, and the only thing you want to do about it is to prod them, then something is wrong coughscumcough.

P-EDIT: Yeah, you're not gonna be wearing that town-leader hat.

[Katsuki]

CK, give me 2 players you find suspicious, and why. I am not getting your Narsis case at all.

[Katsuki]

Checking in.

Will try and find time later tonight.

[Katsuki]

In class right now, apologies for the utter lack of content in the last few days.

Gandalf, can you tell me as to what flavor this game is based on? I thought it was just a snowbunny creation.

[Katsuki]

A site where I can refer to everything would be nice.

[Katsuki]

I promise a post is incoming tonight.

Meanwhile...

OHOHOHO, THAT'S A NICE RICH CHAINSAW COMING FROM MALTHUSIS.

What's even better, he says he has a gut feeling about me, yet votes for my suspect? I THINK NOT!

Unvote, Vote RBT

[Katsuki]

Guys, please stop the facepalm pics, its starting to get distracting.

I am dead tired after lab, so will see if I can get to this.

On roles, role speculation is stupid. Anti-town roles can be town roles, and vice-versa. Hell I've been a fucking mafia beloved princess before.

Some notes off the top of my head in case I do not get to this game tonight:

- OMGUS for chesskid is normal. When analyzing him, try to look past the surface, else you will be stuck banging head against wall.
- Soft-claiming for gandalf is about as normal as chesskid OMGUS'ing. They do it every game.
- The one thing I find strange is that chesskid is obvobvtown this game. I've never seen him obvobvtown before, but I've never played with him in a mini before. He may have matured too. However, I find chesskids reads surprisingly close to mine (maybe due to my previous (negative) experience with him ).
- Voting for RBT does NOT mean that I do not think you are scum, malthusis. In fact, your scuminess supports the chainsaw tell.

[Katsuki]

So, to clarify.

Vezok is a governor
Chesskid can prevent self from being no-lynched, correct?

Think of it as doc and bulletproof if you will, except for lynch instead of kill.

[Katsuki]

That will have to wait, unfortunately.

I would've had some things to say about mal, but RBT flip changed.

V/LA until sunday

[Katsuki]

God I have a lot to catch up on. I will having finals over the next two weeks, so do not expect uberactiveness.

That said, has malthusis started scumhunting yet? If not, then you guys should consider looking at him.

A summary of what has happened end of D1/entirety of D2 would be nice.

[Katsuki]

Unvote, Vote: Malthusis

[Katsuki]

Basically provided a post with 0 reads.

Summary of what malthusis said:

My gut says katsuki is scum, but I have no idea.
Narsis is sheeping, but I'm not sure if thats scum, or town.
I will refer to previous post for DH.
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Why DH, andrew? Why do you not believe his claim?

[Katsuki]

EBWOP: Go read what doombunny's question was, and then apply my post of what malthusis said.

[Katsuki]

@Malt- Care to say anything else? You're still not scumhunting whch bothers me (And no, voting Adumbro for "reasons stated previously" isn't scumhunting). What do you think of players other than Adumbro? Who do you think is most scummy other than Adumbro and why?

^^^^^^^^^
Quoted for those who will undoubtly ask where the question is.

[Katsuki]

Ironic? You're the one fencesitting and leaving all sorts of backdoors, not me.

I'd love if you pointed out the supposed crap logic you're accusing me of as well, instead of, ya know, flailing and mud-flinging.

[Katsuki]

Damn, Malthusis is skyrocketing on my scumlist. WHY ARE THERE SO MANY SCUMMY PLAYERS?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Solution:
1. Lynch malthusis
2. Shoot all scummy players
3. Profit.

[Katsuki]

Doombunny, are you scum again this time?

You're trying awfully hard to tie me to malt. Is this to help mislynch tomorrow?

[Katsuki]

Basically provided a post with 0 reads.

Summary of what malthusis said:

My gut says katsuki is scum, but I have no idea.
Narsis is sheeping, but I'm not sure if thats scum, or town.
I will refer to previous post for DH.
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Why DH, andrew? Why do you not believe his claim?

I have been providing stances on who I think is scummy, especially in the last few posts.

False statement. You have provided no solid stances, only stances like the one I have outlined in that post of mine (aka, laiden with backdoors).
You are now only pushing for me because I have been calling you out as scum. Before that, you were still saying

"oh gut says kat scum but I don't know"

, yet all of a sudden, you claim to have a case on me. Think of it as a OMGUS on your part if you will.

In class right now, so this is it for me for now. Also have 2 finals over the next two days, so do not expect anything from me for a few days.

[Katsuki]

Did you guys read his JK claim? It's not a normal JK that only protects kills, its a JK that prevents ALL actions from targetting the protectee.

Chesskid is pushing for a lot of claims in 2 days. Gandalf, remember alphabet mafia?

@Doombunny: Why I said your associating my lack of scumhunting with malthusis' was BS, was because I was V/LA for a lot of days, not to mention RL is getting in the way (aka, final examinations).

That said,

Scum:

Malthusis
Doombunny

Town:

Gandalf
Chesskid?
Adumbro?

These reads are from my current impressions
I need to re-read, but do not have time.

Gandalf, re-read the stuff surrounding RBT lynch, and contrast it to what is happening now. Let me know what you find.


TO SUM EVERYTHING UP, I WOULD LOVE FOR A MALTHUSIS LYNCH RIGHT NOW. I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME TO PUT THE CASE ON HIM TOGETHER. BUT HIS CASE ON ME IS BS. CLAIMS TO HAVE HAD NO MATERIAL TO ANALYZE BEFORE I STARTED POSTING AFTER MY V/LA, YET WHEN ASKED FOR A CASE, HIS CASE WAS BASED ON STUFF I POSTED D1.

In essence, we have caught scum. And Doombunny needs looking at tomorrow once malthusis flips (confident that he will flip scum). If I die during the night, please do not ignore my posts.

[Katsuki]

EBWOP:

Re: Chesskid town read

My townread on chesskid is based on that he is actually "playing the game" this game, rather than playing a Spamming OMGUS'ing Mod-kicked VI, and not so much what he has posted.

As said, I need to re-read.

[Katsuki]

^Had not considered that.
If that is true, its even more grounds for malthusis lynch, and in that case, my chainsaw tell does stand.

Re: Alphabet D1. Aka, remember how many players were pushed to claim D1? Keep that in mind for further down the road.

[Katsuki]

Also, Malthusis' case consisted of me using crap-logic. His accusation of crap-logic was my calling malthusis out for chainsawing.

[Katsuki]

Apologies for my thoughts kind of being all over the place. Posting from class, so not exactly able to focus my thoughts too well.

[Katsuki]

@katsuki w hat is alphabat mafia what are you trying to hint about.

you attack chess (saying that he wants a lot of claims)
then label him town?
wtf

Re: Chesskid

READ my post. I explained it already.

As to alphabet, it was D1 that we pushed for all the claims gandalf.

@Chesskid: Anti-deathmiller is a viable possibility, and could explain snow_bunny mod-slip. I've never seen her make a mistake in my 2 games with her, if that means anything. You entirely dismissing the possibility gives me funny feelings. I also do not like how fast you moved off malthusis once he claimed.

I also find it funny how you try so hard to label me as a lurker. You called me out for lurking last week I think, despite the fact that I was V/LA.

This little gem also calls for further attention.

Irrelevant.

With so much power, scum RBers

and the like won't know who to block, or who to kill to remove the biggest PR-based threat.

How do you know we have

"so much"

SCUM RBers? I think chesskid just slipped.

[Katsuki]

@katsuki w hat is alphabat mafia what are you trying to hint about.

you attack chess (saying that he wants a lot of claims)
then label him town?
wtf

Re: Chesskid

READ my post. I explained it already.

As to alphabet, it was D1 that we pushed for all the claims gandalf.

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@Chesskid: Anti-deathmiller is a viable possibility, and could explain snow_bunny mod-slip. I've never seen her make a mistake in my 2 games with her, if that means anything. You entirely dismissing the possibility gives me funny feelings. I also do not like how fast you moved off malthusis once he claimed.

I also find it funny how you try so hard to label me as a lurker. You called me out for lurking last week I think, despite the fact that I was V/LA.

This little gem also calls for further attention.

Irrelevant.

With so much power, scum RBers

and the like won't know who to block, or who to kill to remove the biggest PR-based threat.

How do you know we have

"so much"

SCUM RBers? I think chesskid just slipped.


p.s. Reposted for better formatting. Delete my last post if you can snowbunny.

[Katsuki]

How is andrew town.

And chess, obviously my sig means nothing to you. It is not just this game, it is sitewide. Also, I guess I did misread your post.

@Gandalf: What is preventing you from dayvigging malthusis right now? If you are going to, do it now. It will help in focusing our lynch.

P-Edit: lols, nice try. I still want you to answer the question of why you said andrew is town.

[Katsuki]

Antitown is a towntell.

Not true.

[Katsuki]

Chesskid, andrew plays like this in every single game.

Hence, how is antitown a town-tell for andrew, when this is his play as scum as well.

@Gandalf: I plan on reading this game once I am done my finals. I am operating on what I see right now.

And who is this "he" that seems too confident? (did not catch who)

[Katsuki]

I read a scum game of his. It was different.

Not from the scum games I've read/played with him in.

[Katsuki]

Link?

u first.

I am in class right now.

[Katsuki]

So you basically have nothing to back up your town-read on andrew, am I correct?

[Katsuki]

You know who knows who is town without any info?

Scumz.

[Katsuki]

Cute.

Only, considering how you avoided providing any reasons as to why andrew is town. When pushed, you just state you don't care if he lives or dies.

[Katsuki]

You know who knows who is town without any info?

Scumz.

[Katsuki]

Cute.

Only, considering how you avoided providing any reasons as to why andrew is town. When pushed, you just state you don't care if he lives or dies.

But seriously, real post as to why this is so scummy will come after I finish my classes.

[Katsuki]

It's not. I explained that FMPOV he's playing his town game, and it's different in my view than his scum game.
Now you're free to disagree, but saying that I have provided no justification is scumtastic.

When asked for evidence, you provide us with a newbie.

[Katsuki]

Unvote, Vote: Andrew

He is scum. Says he is V/LA, then posts in multiple games earlier today.
Gandalf please save use your shot for someone else.

Will comment on other stuff when I am done my final on monday.

[Katsuki]

You guys have severe reading problems... read my posts. I will get to answering stuff tomorrow.


As for andrew, he V/LA's, yet made a ton of posts in all his games except for this one.

[Katsuki]

Just finished a final. Will get to this game tonight.

Few things:

@Chesskid: I didn't use your pic. They are different.

@Doombunny: I can't remember how to word my feelings for you. I did feel that you tried very hard to tie me to malt. The easiest would be to say that the feeling you're giving me is similar to DNA mafia (aka, WHEN YOU WERE SCUMZORZ).

@SPYSPY: LOOK AT MALTHUSIS REALLLLLLLL CLOSE. THEN VOTE ACCORDINGLY.

[Katsuki]

i cbf explaining to you what v/la means.
i v/la in all my games.

You had V/LA'd in all your games, and yet still posted in all of them... except this one.

[Katsuki]

Unvote, Vote: Malthusis

Andrew will be dayvig'ed.

[Katsuki]

Katsuki, if Adumbro flips scum, you're going to be in trouble, yesh?

If he flips scum, then I will be re-evaluating this game accordingly.

Thus far though, the only case against adumbro has been for his lurking. In terms of content, I have yet to notice anything that is more scummy than malthusis and andrew (and doombunny gut-wise).

I still need to look at narsis, thad and chess when my brain has slightly recovered.
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Also, my poster was different. Go back and look at the game you are referring to.

[Katsuki]

I did feel that you tried very hard to tie me to malt.

You have still not rebutted my arguement...

Which?

[Katsuki]

I see.

Do I really need to get into the argument of being able to post = being able to process the game?

And in terms of scumhunting, I have been. I've posted ample material on malthusis. I just do not get why you guys refuse to see the light.
AND HERE I WAS THINKING THAT SPYSPY COULD BRING SOME SENSE INTO THIS GAME.
WHY NOT MALTHUSIS, SPYSPY?

[Katsuki]

You're not voting accordingly.

[Katsuki]

WTF

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE SHITTING ME

[Katsuki]

I have a final tomorrow morning.

However, gandalf needs to explain what happened with the dayvig.
We are also lynching malthusis today, no exceptions. WE'RE ALSO NOT PLAYING FOLLOW THE CHESSKID TODAY.

Vote: Malthusis

P-EDIT: Your action failed? So spyspy was roleblocked?...

[Katsuki]

If I had a kill, it would've gone straight to malthusis.

Meanwhile, I notice you've led town to two nice lil mislynches. The adumbro wagon was particularly bad, and I will be looking over in the next few days after I am done with everything.

[Katsuki]

The thing is though, I did not go anywhere last night. Which makes me wonder about your claim, chesskid.

I used Obscuring Mist on myself. (one-shot commune)

We are in probably in lylo, (just noticed, 7p left), so I could advise you unvote me, spyspy.

Unvote

TBH, right now I highly suspect chesskid, for how he pushed the wagon from malthusis onto adumbro. Already mentioned gandalf.
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Do not expect anymore posts from me tonight, I really have to study.

[Katsuki]

Lol ok yeah you need to die. I used a watch/track shot on you. You visited Doombunny, and nobody visited you. Bye!

You are straight up lying.

Now I'm gone.

[Katsuki]

commune?

Chess - if one person comes out and goes "I'm vig" and no one else does all things being equal the scum are gonna shut up and just RB the vig and kill.

Commute.

[Katsuki]

my townreads are all dead, except gandalf. And I strongly dislike gandalf. FML

FYI all your former scumreads flipped town.

Chesskid is lying about his result on me last night. There was no way I could have been targetted.

@Malthusis: How did you know your protection failed? Who did you protect last night?

I know I am not scum.
I do not think spyspy is scum.

Hence, that leaves chesskid, gandalf, andrew, and thad for scum.

^We has scum in the above.

[Katsuki]

Actually nvm I can guess who malthusis protected.

Malthusis is town.

[Katsuki]

then how come chess got to track/watch kat if kat commuted herself

thats 2 ppl's word (chess gandalf) against kat

This is known as chesskid lying.

[Katsuki]

WAIT

Malth, you CANT protect yourself. Doctors never can, because a doc that can protect themselves is broken, especially if there's a vig in the game, which there clearly is.

Malt just lied to all of us. Can we lynch him after Kat? <3

The game will be over after you guys lynch me.

[Katsuki]

OHO THAT'S NICE, GANDALF SLIP OF "BAIBAI SK".

Scum win. GJ town. Except not.

[Katsuki]

I am quite livid at chesskid fake-claim though.

I have a passive ability called "Protection From Magic", which prevents me from being targetted by ANY abilities. But no, you guys had to go quick-lynch me while I was on an airplane.

[Katsuki]

Assuming you're right, if there's an SK, the game is not even close to being over.

The SK is me dumbass.

[Katsuki]

VOTE: Katsuki

BAIBAI SK

^Hence this slip. Gandalf is scum.

[Katsuki]

Do you honestly think the mod made this 8:3:1?

Yes. I do, what with the number of shots, and based on my abilities. I am not a SK. I am third party, but my wincon is killing the head sorceror. Hence, it is impossible that mod made this a 9:2:1 setup.

I have a odd-night rolecop, even-night skill. My abilities are "Investigate" and "Smite".

Chesskid, all you needed was to create a single mislynch as scum to win, considering town was in lylo. The fact that they just went ahead and hammered without re-evaluating the game in a lylo situation is just sad.

[Katsuki]

so who did you kill last night kat

For once, Andrew has a point (I'm just amazed as you are, I know). You said you can only kill on odd nights, and yet 3 people died last night. I doubt there were 2 vig shots last night.....

Where did I say i kill on odd nights...

[Katsuki]

THANKS FOR THE GAME SNOWBUNNY!!!

My inactivity late D1-early D2 really hurt me... RL got in the way, but chesskid caught onto it nonetheless. I fell behind and never got back into the game properly

VERY well played by chesskid, even if I highly disagree with the adumbro lynch. For once, I did not want to beat chesskid dead for bad play (but dead for other reasons).

@Mod: How was chess able to target me? I thought I was immune from magic

After N2, I realized gandalf was scum. I just wish I got D3 back, played terribly. I'll look through the game setup later.

[Katsuki]

Also, when gandalf mentioned anti-death miller, I bought the idea due to my own janitor-kill shot.

[Katsuki]

pre-in as usual.

[Katsuki]

Hehe. You were the easiest mislynch in the history of evar.

Well I did play badly, but people seemed to have the mistaken impression that inactivity is a scumtell.


Especially when it's inactivity in all your games and declared V/LA before the game begins.



And didn't even let me claim, bad town was bad.

Your lynch was terrible. I do not get how it went through, but the fact that it did did not surprise me in the slightest.