Open 263 - The Wild Life [Game Over]

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vote andrew

PL- let's get it over with now

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SB if we are going to Policy lynch PL andrew

I am calling for a PL on Andrew. We have a good chance of killing some sort of scum

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More andrew votes please

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Andrew I don't fake claim as town!!!!!!(other than that one time)
You do every time!

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@Park, I haven't played with you in a while so I guess you didn't get the memo.
I am a lot better now.

AND ANDREW STFU AND DIAF

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There is no breaking strategy!!!!!!
But go aheah try!
Also Andrew you just claimed scum in post 18

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Andrew just claimed scum

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@ SB- He only fake claims as town.
He slips as scum

@ Andrew ummmmmmmmmmm no!! One wolf would claim mafia and one would claim town. Good luck getting lucky

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exactly and then what town auto lynches mafia!?!?
Ya mafia won't go a long with it.

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exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Andrew stop trying to make it to where to mafia can win easilly you are just hard core claiming mafia

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no andrew then wolves would win

also @ SSSoS- yes good times. But also Andrew has already claimed scum and slipped

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Andrew = scum, he has admitted it and acted pro mafia all day.
Lets lynch him

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No jason, the fact is that Andrew basicly claimed scum, RTFT

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mod, your rule number 7, is there an exception, where you c

an claim your scumbuddies for a chance to win

Why would he ask the mod if Mafia can claim in order to win if he was town?! Town doesn't want a mafia win.

no,

mafia wins if

the ratio is 1:1:1 or 2:2:2 read the wiki

Once again why would he be asking for a plan that ends in a mafia win if he wasn't mafia

so they can win if we lynch a werewolf and they derp derp lynch townies

AGAIN!!! He wants mafia to win and he wants the mafia to "derp derp lynch townies".
There is no pro town motives here.

@ mod, what if there is 2 werewolves 2 mafia and 1 townie left? or something similar

it would make sense to claim mafia!

Here he is vehemently arguing with the mod so that he can use a pro mafia strategy!!! WTF people read this! Why would he be fighting for this so hard if he didn't want mafia to be able to do it and win!

and mod, i have seen serial killer claims before... and even mafia claims where the serial killer is bulletproof.

mod if the ratio is equal of werewolves and mafia with no town role, mafia wins

Why would he be pointing out how the mafia could win with his strategy unless he was mafia!?

read the wiki
at 1 1 1 mafia wins

thats why my plan is valid as it forces the scums to mantain balance

He admits that he wants the scum to control the game!!!!!

This is all that Andrew said, not just that one post!
The bolded parts are what make him mafia.

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His plan is scummy!
It ends in a mafia win!!!!!!!!!!!!

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What?

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Is there any out come that isn't a wolf or mafia victory in your plan???
no!

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Why a wolf Park?

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This is true, keeping andrew is a gamble, but he is bad at hiding what he is, and he is obv scum here

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It seems like he's doing what me and Gand do when we are mafia together. He is playing it off as he is too scummy to be scum.

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That's because Jason andrew and IAYN, are in a standoff against the rest of us town members.

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ANDREW FUCKING CLAIMED MAFIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOD HOW DO YOU GUYS NOT SEE THAT?!?!?!?

I will have limitted access untill after thanksgiving

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He didn't say those words but he did say "Hey mod can mafia claim to help my pro-mafia plan?, and town can you go along with it?"
and then he said
"Look guys we should really do this because look how easily and how many ways the mafia can win!"

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Ok,

andrew

- Why do you want mafia to beniffit?

I mKES NO SENSE IF YOU ARE TOWN SO THE ONLY EXPLINATION i CAN SEE IS THAT YOU ARE MAFIA

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yes and i hate your avi just fyi

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=D

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- thank you
- I haven't attack his past dumb plans because in the past he has made it obvious that he is at least trying to be pro-town, here he is straight up pro-mafia
- I think he is Andrews scum buddy. Yes I really do.

The plan obviously is severely flawed and I don't think I need to explain why. That being said I personally think this is a post made by a pro-town player rather than someone who aims to gain an advantage for their faction. I've never played with Andrew before so I can't judge his play style but I stand by my statement.

OP

- 1.How is his plan een slightly pro-town? 2. If he is trying to be pro-town then wouldn't he being helping his faction?

The reactions themselves are justified to an extent. A player posts an absurd plan and a player acts accordingly to said plan. However the way Shotty was going at it seemed to really be eager to push a lynch onto Andrew and going back to how

I felt the plan had a pro-town motive makes me think that Shotty was trying to capitalize on a easy lynch.

OP

- 1. Where is the line of justification drawn? 2. Nice IIoA 3. Ok so now let me ask you this about the bolded section of you quote. You said that

YOU

think the plan was pro-town correct? And you think that since

YOU

have an certian oppinion about something that it must be right?(That's VERY confident of you). Did you ever consier the fact that I thought the plan was anti-town, and pro-mafia?(I only said it a thousand times). So then, if my oppinion of his plan is that it is Anti-Town, then wouldn't me voting him make sense? Yet, you vote me because

"You think that it is pro-town(somehow), so since I think other wise I am OBV scum"

So if you think it is anti-town of me to vote for who I think is mafia then keep your vote on me man, but other wise you have no reasoning at all.
4. How am I trying to capitalize on an easy lynch? Does this look easy to you? I am having to work pretty hard at getting Andrew lynched. BECAUSE I THINK HE IS SCUM!

- Umm... I would like to say that Andrew and OP are pretty obv scum together... that's about it.
OH WAIT HOLD ON I FOUND ONE MORE THING AGAINST ANDREW!

maybe should lynch erinyes to prove to u guys

^Epic attempt at offering to bus much?

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vote: drmyshotty

Losing your cool like always. But u have said that you improved since we played. Looking back at your games, whenever people are spot-on, you lose your cool. So since you lost your cool now, you are 100% Mafia/Werewolf.

Ok when have I lost my cool? And when have I flipped out as scum with you?
I play better as mafia I promiss you.
Also what you said is like saying that bobby always get scared when there are clowns around, and since bobby is scared there has to be a clown around. I get pissed for way more reasons that just getting cought as scum. ATM I am agrivated town because it is so obvious to me that Andrew is mafia and you guys are not seeing it at all. This seemed almost like a cheep excuse to just on my building bandwagon.

EBWOP-Ninja'd

Yes Andrew how is that? It makes no sense and it also proes that you are helping the odds of the mafia and making it a toss up between town and mafia winning.

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UNVOTE:

- With five scum candidates, it makes for easier mislynches.
- I'd like to hear shotty's opinion on parknourie's most recent accusation.

- I'd like to hear shotty elaborate on this andrew/of/erinyes possibility.

- I shouldn't have to mention that it's only page 6/7 into day 1 and that scum could easily hammer shotty, who may very well just be over-excited. I mean, he's sixteen. It happens.

I was just reading and it stuck out as a ver possible attempt to bus.
Also they have done a good job not interacting all to much. And since Andrew is always oppertunistic and selfish in all games it seems like something he might do.

P-Edit-Ninja'd

TRue very true

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Again he is trying to bus to make him self seem town

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@

OP

- You didn't really say much other than we see this differently and you omgus'd a guy

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guys just read what andrew is saying and lynch the fuck out of him NOW!

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Emergancy V/LA... might be going into hospital, waiting to go for docs appointment.. spent last night vomiting blood and severe stomuch pains

and you still think to tell us? wow you are comitted, get better man.

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i meant you said I omgus'd a guy. Also Andrews plan gives mafia a better chance at winning then they do right now, think about it, they do not currently have a 40% chance of winning, but after the first day of this plan they will and by the end they will have a 45% chance

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yes but seer dies day one. not good. Also actaully we would end up with 3 mafia and 5 town. That gives mafia a WAY better chance of winning compared to 3 against 9... And if one town mislynch was pulled from that plan then mafia WIN!

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because mafia know who each other are so on a 3 v 5 where 3 know who is who and 5 are clueless then the 3 will win very easiely when they only need i mislynch

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please someone hammer him,,, wait has he claimed?

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ok, so you just called him town... please say why?

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3 more vote!

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I am 100% sure

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ok you're right I am only 99% sure, because you cant be 100 with out knowing.

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Andrew chill, you are mafia

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Andrew has done nothing pro-town and a lot pro-mafia, why isn't he lynched already?

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SB- Andrew is scummy! He always plays pro-what he is, and he is obviously playing pro mafia here.

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NO HE FAILED A KINDA PRO-TOWN GAMBIT. THAT'S WHAT HE DID IN THAT GAME!

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There is one more fun role you are forgetting.
Also really I just actually care about this game, I think it is a really cool set up. If you look at my last game with this set up it is very much the same, and i was town

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grrr now i have to search for it brb

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oops i forgot it's still on day 4. sorry

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ok ya scott thats cool

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so uh... why is scott L-2?

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*sigh* another person who thinks me and scott are scum just because

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Playing us some dotA, opponents that we creep on, and opponents that were sleeping.

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i think that whole lynch me if he's not is andrew bussing

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nope

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no way park!!!!
Ok so I'm calling a Andrew, Scott, Park scum team right now.
Or a Andrew, Park, Iam scum team, one of those two.

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Park or Andrew, pick one and lets lynch them

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you heard andrew lynch him! and please don;t ignore his AtE there.

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is this the old west? NO

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so far there has been no case against me, why am i the leading wagon?

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Who do you propose we lynch, Shotty?

as i've said, and explained why, park, or andrew!

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/bah!!!!
I love you Park