Open 267- Lovers Mafia- Game Over

[drmyshottyizsik]

/confirm

vote later

Chill this is just a game

[drmyshottyizsik]

@ chick- I am inclined to vote you due to your active lurking,

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active lurking is lurking within your posts, not watching the thread and not posting.
I just got home, i gtg i may post tommorow

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not really a case, but a bunch of IIoA

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eh it's null, because i do it myself as scum and town

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Done a quick browse, game got started pretty quick which I like. Shotty is actually semi-contributing to this game? That seems to go against his meta.. And seeing as I've only ever seen him play town and be useless...Hmm.

Not only is this a meta-tell, but Shotty isn't really contributing to the game.

His "first" post - Very wish-washy, doesn't really comment on much, just "observes" and doesn't take a stance.

My first post was clarifying some points on both sides. If you honestly wanted to make me take a side in the first few posts when only some rapid stances took place, that at the moment made both sides look flustered and confused and at least in my thoughts was a point where Lateralus was looking for reactions, then I sigh at you.

Buddies to emp.

Is this a joke? Do you honestly think that Lateralus wasn't on the trail of this game for 24/7? FFS, Lateralus even agrees that he's bit a bit overactive in post #26. On Page 1, he made a triple post, and two double posts. If I'm really buddying to emp, then I should be doing a damn well good job of it. Emp hasn't given out any of his views, just voted Lateralus for posting a lot, so I assume.

Plays the "I missed that post" card (A statement I have used myself as scum on numerous occasions when being caught out...)

What? WHAT? I honestly flipped out at this point. If I'm now scum for missing a post when another person, who I was having a reasonable argument with, posted after and I paid more attention to that post, rather the other post, then I quit mafia. Not to mention, I did later respond to that post, and admit to it. This is the worst scumtell I have ever seen. No jokes.

#28: More wish-washy. "Jumpy can be scummy, and it could be just over-defensive townie"

You do realize that lurking could be scum and town right? Let's move on. I'm sorry that my game theory can have multiple ends, and therefore is now considered wishy-washy.

Honestly. This is a

horrible

case on me. This is basically why I think Lateralus is town. He has townie reasons why I may be scum, and he's been scumhunting. If he's scum, he'll be left alone today.

IIoA

Ah, these are valid points. He's played the "I missed that" twice now, don't know if you just meant toward my question or when he overlooked shotty.

Valid points? What are you smoking.

Stupid rhetorical fluff! Why are the posts not valid? this is IIoA as well

I'm backtracking now. I had a big post, but I deleted the first post by accident(lol scumtell).

Starts with IIoA, and then tells us pointsless shit that does nothing but create fluff.

Saying that is an attack though. You're right, you did get out some of your opinions but the thing is I'm not even sure if you believe them when it doesn't look like your backing them up much.

Disliking your style of play is not an attack. Telling you that your play sucks, and is scummy, is an attack.

IIoA/Sheeping/Obvious, and very unneeded fluff.

- Could you please elaborate on "Townhunting. For the win."?

Um...not really.

So you plan on doing something "pro-town" the whole game, but not give us any indication of how or why you are doing it? Well... REALLY?!

I like Townhunting rather than Scumhunting. For the win is just showing my liking of it more.

We don't need to lynch town, we need to lynch scum. There are less scum to hunt for so it is easier, and way more pro-town. You sir are FTF

Right that settles everything I believe, so let me get onto the first part of the old post.

IIoA

I've made this post multiple times, excluding the DavidParker part which I saw only today. However, I made it on my iPod, which means I depended on Wifi. Wifi always fails. =/

FLUFF!

Moving on, let's start this with a bang.

VOTE: Drmyshottyizsick

I've re-examined his post, and made the conclusion that out of everyone here, he is the most probable person to be scum.

How can you say this if you've been town hunting??? So you have both scum pinned already? GO YOU![/sarcasm]

Let's analyze this shall we?

/confirm

vote later

Chill this is just a game

First off, we have Drmyshotty voting Later. I don't see why this vote should stand, at this point. Later has decreased his posts tenfold, and really only had a reasonable argument with me. Therefore, this seems like a total BW of Empking, who said basically the same thing.

That was my RVS vote! It's scummy to hold it against me!

@ chick- I am inclined to vote you due to your active lurking,

Here's the big part why this isn't good.

First off, he's looking at who's watching the thread, which isn't really a huge scum tell, but it's still one

.

Um,,, ya no this is not true at all, you just either misrepped me or misunderstood what Active Lurking is.

Second off, he doesn't even seem to be remotely caring about his Lateralu's vote. Instead, Chkflip seems like a better target for Active Lurking within the first week of the game.

You're right I'm not trying to push my RVS vote to a quick lynch! How

scum

town of me!

Something really doesn't seem good here. At all. So, therefore, you're scum

.

How off your rocker are you?!?! Do I even need to pont out why this is scummy??? I am scum, because it doesn't feel right to you?!?!?!

unvote
vote Hiraki

^For reasons stated in this post

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I have super limitted access right now, tpday's the first time I've been able to post this much. also when I said IIoA I meant it, but i was talking more about the beggining of his post. I had only skimmed that post until this morning

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chk, I'm not saying that his IIoA is scummy, but I am saying that all of the other things i pointed out is scummy, your vote makes no sense unless you mis understood me

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DP- I use IIoA with out even thinking about it, I was simply saying it's null, and my case on hiraki is one of the best cases I've ever made. This is not forced, I'm just actually paying attention in this game

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Ok, and the reason I'm not "paying attention" is because I am, or was at the fairmont hotel in bpston with my family for thanksgiving, so not only did i not have much time, but I also had tp pay like hell for internet. It's me or Hiraki, pick one

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Hiraki Active lurking IS posting fluff in your posts and lurking threw your posts, that's how you ditect it! And you do it like hell!!!
-My first vote had no reason and was on page 2, it was RVS
- You calling me scum there is a huge omgus
- And no you have no case on me above all you said was,
1. I said IIoA three times(Ironicly more IIoA)
2. You don't share your tactics(Anti-Town)
3. You think it's ok to lynch town
4. I'm odd, for finding an anti-town thing anti-town
5. You assume I didn't RVS vote due to something someone else said.
6. You OMGUS'd me
7. Sounded dumb
8. And you called me a lier
^^Now if that's a case then... well no it's just not a case at all, it's a huge OMGUS to try to save your own ass.

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Later, I know he voted me but this was his first reasoning and his reason was that I was calling him scummy... and voting him, any way chkflip pisses me off, I won't be able to read him for while i can feel it in my bones

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Hiraki Active lurking IS posting fluff in your posts and lurking threw your posts, that's how you ditect it! And you do it like hell!!!

We'll get to this later at the end.

-My first vote had no reason and was on page 2, it was RVS

Calm down isn't a reason? Hmmzorz.

No it's a statement of something i want him to do I didn't call him scummy for it at all

- You calling me scum there is a huge omgus

Of course. My reasoning should be ignored.

You have no real reasons!

- And no you have no case on me above all you said was,
1. I said IIoA three times(Ironicly more IIoA)

Which you did, and all of them were ludicrous. Just because I say something that seems irrelevant to you, doesn't mean that it's scummy. Not to mention, you said yourself that IIoA is null, so what's the point of emphasizing it so much?

Because you and others are making such a big deal about it. It IS null to me

2. You don't share your tactics(Anti-Town)

I did. I like Town Hunting. I look for who's townie, and then I go on from there. FFS, I said Lateralus was townie for his scum hunting, even if I didn't like how he did it.

Do scum not have to pretend to scum hunt? This is a dumb reason for a read. And town hunting is stupid as well.

3. You think it's ok to lynch town

Um. No, I don't.

Really?!

4. I'm odd, for finding an anti-town thing anti-town

Explain.

You said that I was odd for disliking your town hunting

5. You assume I didn't RVS vote due to something someone else said.

Something someone else said? No, you said calm down. I believe I'm quite sure of that.

IDK read your post, and IT WAS RVS!!

6. You OMGUS'd me

Obv.

But you OMGUS'd me, I promiss

7. Sounded dumb

Thank you for the insult.

8. And you called me a lier

I did. I can't believe anyone saying that telling someone to "calm down" is an RVS vote. Sorry that's not in your favor.

I didn't say OMG YOU IZ SCUM BECAUSE YOU ARE ANGRY!! TOWN GET'S ANGRY TOO, IT WAS RVS AND I TOLD HIM TO CALM DOWN SO THAT HE WOULD CALM DOWN AND BREATH!!!

^^Now if that's a case then... well no it's just not a case at all, it's a huge OMGUS to try to save your own ass.

If you're not going to respect my views and just call them all garbage with no reasoning, then you're just being an asshole at this rate.

Nice way to ignore this part

That's not the point. You disliked my reasons and they made you suspicious of me. David asking ones is completely independent of that and doesn't change my questions/whatever.

If they were legitimate how did they make you suspicious/not like what I was attacking you with? When you specifically said you didn't mind the act of attacking you?

1) No, I disliked your mode of questioning. DP on the other hand just has horrible attacks.

2) Same as above.

I can see why certain you ones you don't like, but some of his reasons were similar to mine.

...Not really.

His reasons against me were silly, and your reasons against me were valid. I don't see how you could make a correlation between his reasons and yours, tbqh.

That "Typo" changes the whole entire meaning of what you're saying and the previous thought process behind it. How were specifics not important when earlier you were so cautious as to say you didn't give me a full FoS? What exactly would be the "right" way to say what you were thinking?

No it doesn't. I've only mentioned FoS one time in the game, that's what the point of putting that there was. I didn't put it there to discuss it more, I've discussed all I need to discuss about it. However, it seems that you want to know more, and therefore, being the kind and generous Hiraki, I shall give more.

When I said "not fully FoS", perhaps I should've just said IGMEOY. However, that's not the point. The point is, is that I was somewhat suspicious of you, at that moment, but thought about it more. Out of everyone playing the game, you and Chkflip, at that moment had to be deemed the most town, because of your activeness(null) and scumhunting(town). Does that help?

When did you start getting bad vibes from chkflip, and which reasons do you specifically have that made you wary of him? Would he be your second lynch pick?

I think it was when I fully read post #51. While it doesn't tell much, it did show that there was a greater argument between you and Chkflip that I had originally seen. Again, I'd like to assess the argument a bit more before making a conclusion on who may or may not be scum.

My second candidate for scum has to be DP. If there's scum on Shotty's wagon, however, I believe it to be Empking. However, I don't see why he wouldn't do more to change his mind or something. So he's cool for now.

Preview Edit. I'd just like to bring something up to everyone's attention, that I found during my read-through.

active lurking is lurking within your posts, not watching the thread and not posting.

Active lurking IS posting fluff in your posts and lurking threw your posts, that's how you ditect it! And you do it like hell!!!

First off, I'd like everyone to compare and contrast these two statements.

WHY THEY SAY THE SAME THING!! Active lurking is simple! And you do it soooooo much.

And I'd like to comment on them further as well.

Ok then do it, don't talking about doing it

First off, I'd like to say that you have never called me out on Active Lurking, and the only way you do call me out on it is by IIoA. That's only one of the things that you say make up Active Lurking. Doesn't really fit well.

I DID CALL YOU OUT ON IT! THAT'S WHY WE ARE DISCUSSING IT!!!!!!! I MADE A STATEMENT THAT YOU USE A LOT OF IIoA! I DIDN'T SAY YOU WERE SCUM FOR IT I CALLED YOU OUT ON A LOT OF OTHER SHIT RTFT!!!

Second off, the only person you have said that was Actively Lurking was Chkflip. However, you said this on Page 2. By your definition of Active Lurking, Chkflip has posted fluff in his posts, has not been reading the thread, and has not posted. Either that, or a combination of those things.

GOD NO I DIDN'T!! HE WAS ACTIVE LURKING!!!!!!

That's total bullshit.

FUCK YOU YOU HAVE OFFICIALLY PISSED ME OFF!

Third off, your first and second definition of Active Lurking do not match up at all.

YES THY DO!!!!

Fourth, why aren't you able to vote Empking for Active Lurking? Out of everyone here, he's the one who has done it the most no?

BECAUSE I'M NOT JUST VOTING YOU FOR ACTIVE LURKING! I HAVE MANY MORE REASONS AGAINST YOU THAN I DO EMP!

Fifth, do you believe that you wouldn't be under the conditions of Actively Lurking yourself?

NO I'M SCUM HUNTING AND MAKING CASES, YOU ARE JUST SAYING OH HE'S SCUM, OH I ATE WAFFLES TODAY!

I have concluded that there are

way

too many inconsistencies between Shotty's definitions, and the players who are actually Actively Lurking, between Shotty's two definitions. Take it as you wish. This guy is scummy.

MORE FEELINGS?!? GOD DIE! SCUM! MY DEFFINITIONS ARE THE SAME

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This needs to be more organized. The numbers correlate to where you add your red text.

1. You voted him. If you vote a person, and tell the same person to calm down, I'm 100% sure that telling the person to calm down has something to do with the vote. If you honestly believe that it is an RVS Vote, you honestly can't see how odd it seems that you're voting Lateralus at the same time.

It was RVS End of story. He was work up i said calm down oh well.

In contrast, if you voted me, and told Lateralus to calm down, I wouldn't be caring about this.

2. Ignoring something doesn't mean it'll go away.

obv

3. No one ever talked about IIoA before you brought it up. You bring it up in almost every one of your posts now, if not all of them, and from my perspective, it's no longer null, but scummy. I don't have enough time to go fully into this, but I'll do it later. Just don't respond to this at the moment.

ok so if you find IIoA scummy then you are obv scum

4. Scum can scumhunt, but I'm usually pretty sure that Town-Aligned People scumhunt much more than Scum-Aligned People. Would you agree or disagree with this?

Dis agree, it depends on the person, scum sometimes have to scum hunt more because they have to fake a train of thought

Also, I honestly don't care what you think about Town Hunting.

5. Let's not play this stupid sarcasm game please.

It takes two to play, so if you stop i will be forced to

6. Quote me. I'm 100% sure this is either a misinterpretation, or I never said this.

ok

7. You're not making much sense of this. At all.

no you're not

8. I promise it's not. See what I did there?

nope because i can't see you, but also u did

9. Yeah, this isn't really funny actually. I'm getting annoyed, to be quite honest.

ask the mod to mod kill me then

10. It

really

doesn't look like that. Not to mention, what's wrong with Lateralus' "jumpiness"?

What do you mean starting too! that was my first post stfu and die!

Scroll Down Etc.

1. Are you joking?

Let's compare.

The first one says that Active Lurking is lurking within your post, reading the thread, and not posting.

no i said it was lurking with in your posts NOT not posting, see the double negative there

The second one says that Active Lurking is posting fluff in your post, and lurking through your posts.

same much?

Do I need to explain the extreme differences between these definitions?

nope i think you were just incompitant for a moment

2. This is how I operate. You don't need to comment on them. You can just delete it out of the quote. I promise, it doesn't hurt.

3. I am reading the thread, first of all. Second of all, you called me out on IIoA. Last time I checked, IIoA doesn't equal Active Lurking. Active Lurking, according to you, is applicable to lynching someone, IIoA is null. Am I getting something incorrect here?

Technicly IIoA is a wiki scum tell, and so is active lurking, and just because active lurking isn't the first thing i called you out on doesn't mean i didn't call you out on it. I AM NOW CALLING YOU OUT ON IT!

4. How was he actively lurking. You have avoided the question completely and gotten into a hissy fit.

No I haven't you have changed the subject from you being scum

5. Well, that's what happens when you're wrong.

I'm not

6. Ahh, see this where I explain the extreme differences.

Your first definition speaks nothing of anyone posting. In fact, your first definition says that the person only reads the thread and

does not

post. In your second definition, it's more about how the person posts, and the content in their posts. It speaks

nothing

about the frequency of their voting patterns, or such. There is a huge inconsistency.

*Sigh*

7. That's not the question I'm asking. I'm asking if you could vouch for Empking for Active Lurking or not.

No I could not, it's scummy no matter who does it

8. Of course, my reasoning at this point is invalid. In fact, I had reasoning?

No you really don't have any fucking reason for anything

9. No, there is no

feeling

here. This is hardcore logic. I am quite aware that you're completely wrong about Active Lurking, first off, and that your opinions about me are horrible. I have explained them, now stop getting pissed and answer to them, and I will answer back. Y'know. Like a debate.

you are dumb

@Lateralus and DP: Do you believe my case has some, or any validity? Why, or why not?

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Basically dumb ass there makes a one line pointless comment about my case on her and calls it a case against me, then twists my words and calls me a lier and blows my RVS vote out of proportion

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active lurking is lurking within your posts,

not

watching the thread and

not

posting.

^^This gramaticly says activee lurking IS lurking with in your posts, NOT, watching the thread while not posting.

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hiraki amp and chk why am i scum again?

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no DP because Hiraki if definitely scum, and i think you are his buddy

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No it's not, because you jump off right before a lynch, then push another wagon trying to get a lynch on it, so that tommorow you can say that Hiraki can't be scum because the only person he would have been scum with was Chk, so then we lynch me or some one else and it's game over mafia win.

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WOW SHIT!