The Big Game

[Jack]

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[Jack]

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[Jack]

unvote, vote:Jack

JESTER VICTORY

[Jack]

Uite is extremely scummy.

[Jack]

Uite's scumbuddy, come and comment on him.

[Jack]

Fate are you bussing?

[Jack]

Vote: Fate

What?

[Jack]

Was tempted to hammer in my first post. Will hammer but right now I'm hungry.

[Jack]

Would hammer if I could.

Which post of his do you think is scummiest if you had to pick one?

[Jack]

I ate, but now I'm hungry again.

[Jack]

Dekes and zang, don't hammer. I'm working on a post.

[Jack]

What do you think of uite?

[Jack]

I don't think he's scummy.

We do, for reasons stated, and will probably lynch him, any specific objection?

[Jack]

Patience is a virtue.

[Jack]

unvote, vote:nothammer

[Jack]

You should comment on zang and zang should comment on you and dekes should say what's up with her zang/fate scum theory.

[Jack]

[Jack]

unvote, vote:Uite

My hammer *****, and what's this claim talk?

Dekes comments don't sound right, he is probably the scumbuddy.

[Jack]

Flavour coming in 8 hours[/color]

Godammit, I hate waiting.

[Jack]

I just think mykonian should show some consideration.

[Jack]

Suspicion of me is stupid. If I had hammered we wouldn't have anything from dekes and zang.

don just responded to "waiting so longer to hammer isn't jackish" with "well, he did hammer without a claim" which is contradictory.

dekes posts yesterday were scummy, zang's weren't.

[Jack]

He thought it was scummy that I waited so long to hammer, and you thought it was scummy that I hammered so soon.

Also don't claim to be certain about someone and say things like "I'd bet my sanity" in a game with 1 scum left and (evidently) a doctor, it's just weird.

[Jack]

A cop would just claim.

Read these please:

I am a MASON, I am CONFIRMED TOWN.

UNVOTE ME.

There are no masons in a 7p game. Just like there are no jesters in a 7p game.
I may be drunk but if 3 players want me to hammer within the next 30 minutes I will (Fate, why did you only ask Jack to hammer?). Because I can't get over that one post where Uite said Jack HAS to be scum and yet voted Fate, who was the only counterwagon at that moment.

Btw, mod, I don't know if we need 'em, but are there deadlines?

*gasp* Fate lying? You got to be kidding me?

I so want to hammer Uite because of Nibbler cuteness and hammering being badass as it is. But at the same time there are three brain cells left who want me to wait for a Uite claim.

But remember, Uite, there's even less shame in a 7p game to trade one PR for a mafia so you better claim VT so I can lynch your scummy ass.

I'll give you till 2 p.m. GMT before I hammer.

Fate get your head in the game and don't discount what you saw in these because "dekes said he was suspicious of uite earlier". He did say he was "it's ******* weird and awfully scummy" and then said something weird about a zang/fate scum theory.

[Jack]

Sane cop + doc in a mini seems doubtful. What's your role name don? For outguessing the mod purposes.

We could no lynch and have you investigate someone else.

[Jack]

Fate did you really call dekes town after that post? Everything he says is scummy about me is from yesterday, when he didn't mention it. He says I'm aiming for town cred by saying zang isn't scummy and then says zang isn't scummy. Also just read them.

[Jack]

We have good reason not to assume sane. We should wait until zang posts a lot anyway.

If we lynch today and you aren't sane then it's lylo tomorrow.

But now that I think about it insane cop + godfather is a terrible combination.

[Jack]

fsb is the kgb. Let me think about that. Zang should nameclaim.

[Jack]

Here's the queue thread summary for reference:

The big game

Crisis is the word of this decade. With America's economical base weakening, countries like China and Japan gain more and more influence on the international markets. Europe is Europe. Old, divided, and generally useless. One has to wonder if the USA's invasions in Iraq and Afghanistan were a smart move, seen the enormous cost they brought with them. A war of terrorism is a great idea, but what if it ruins you? Who won the war then?

But considering all that, one cannot deny that there is no country like the USA in the world. China might be coming, but it isn't close to becoming the economic and political power that the USA still is. 9/11 didn't change anything in that. How could it? While the country was scared by terrorist, the USA got interested in the rest of the world again. That it was ugly could have been expected. The secrets Wikileaks showed to the world were shocking, but nothing strange for a world power. Because really, who would stop them from abusing some of that power?

The big game is a 7p mini themed, with flavour based on the current world and my imagination. I don't promise the flavour will be any good, but I'm going to try my best at it.

[Jack]

Zang's "vote:fate" post that ignored everything in the thread was something scummy I'd forgotten about.

[Jack]

Jack throw a vote down you fucking coward

I think I'll wait and see if zang says something relevant.

fake edit: WHOAH! i'M PRESCIENT!

[Jack]

Zang are you claiming a guilty on dekes?

[Jack]

I would guess that rather than sane and insane, the two agencies get guilties on each other. since it's kgb vs cia. They might have different priorities other than that. Dekes, name claim.

[Jack]

I am the CIA, cop. Since I now know that you are insane or scum and I doubt there would be two insane cops-

Vote: Dekes

Actually zang you're going to have to translate this for me.

I get that you know he's either insane or scum, but the rest of it I don't get.

[Jack]

Ignore the above, zang is assuming he's the sane cop.

my role pm states that my sanity isn't confirmed. i don't think that implies any other mechanic. in any case. what did you expect zang to do here?

Something that failed a lot more.

[Jack]

Why didn't you even hint at your result at the start of the day zang, and why did you investigate him?

[Jack]

He claimed a guilty on dekes. If dekes is innocent, he would have to be insane if he were town, but then don would be sane and zang would be guilty.

Unless in the setup the cops get guilties on eachother and I do get a "realpolitik" feel from the writeups.

No lynch and the both investigate someone else?

[Jack]

Vote:dekes

He's scummy enough to lynch without any cop stuff, so let's just lynch him.

[Jack]

1.I didn't say my results at the beginning of the day because I thought I might be insane. I was going to investigate fate in night 2 to check my sanity and claim the next day if I was sane.

how would that prove your sanity? why do you think you'd be alive on night 2? if you didn't breadcrumb your results, then your first investigation would be useless...

Who the hell would kill zang?

[Jack]

jack: you hammered without a claim. if you're wanting to lynch the scummiest outside of investigation results, maybe you should self-vote.

What bullshit is this?

I'd hammer if I could

Not waiting for the claim was the protown play.

edit: jack, mafia might kill zang night 2. his sanity and his investigation results would be lost. didn't you say earlier how you thought a cop would claim day 2?

A cop who actually has reason to trust his results. But I haven't read your pm's. And I don't expect zang to make much sense. AND WHO WOULD KILL ZANG?

[Jack]

yessss

You write up a big post calling me a slow kid for not getting how zang doing something dumb makes him obvscum. And then zang posts about how he believes fate is a mason.

And you know, his believing fate is a mason fits perfectly with him thinking he could confirm his sanity by investigating him.

saying one would hammer, and actually doing it without a claim are two entirely different things. hammering without a claim is scummy. the only reason i don't think you are scum is because... wait for it...

NO, IT ISN'T SCUMMY. I PATIENTLY WAITED INSTEAD OF HAMMERING WHICH IS TOWN, AND THEN HAMMERED BEFORE THE CLAIM BECAUSE UITE WAS OBVSCUM AND WAS JUST GOING TO CLAIM DOCTOR OR SOMETHING. YOU NEVER ASKED HIM TO CLAIM OR UNVOTED TO MAKE SURE SOMEONE WOULDN'T HAMMER.

although you did express your silly bias about hammering without a claim.

[Jack]

dekes, name claim.

[Jack]

OPEC....that's why I believe KGB as cop over CIA.

I don't follow.

[Jack]

Well, if this is a game made by an American, it'd be quite ironic to have the bad guys from America's perspective as town.

It would be ironic to have the kgb as town? But not to have the CIA as town?

[Jack]

EBWOP:
Way too concentrate on the irrelevant stuff, Jack.

You said you were opec, and that made you believe kgb over cia. But it turns out that makes no sense at all and your explanation makes no sense. How is it irrelevant?

[Jack]

Change that "one more reason for me" to believe KGB over CIA as town. CIA and Luxembourg are obviously seated in liberal, democratic nations. OPEC and KGB...not so much. It could've been selected by the mod this way but I already said there's no point in debating over flavor or outguessing the mod.

Because you keep ignoring, whether Zang's cop claim is believable or not because you're so adamant on me being scum and won't think other possibilities through.

Of course the godfather is going to be a liberal democratic nation. Although you making this argument doesn't make sense with you having scumknowledge.

[Jack]

Sigh, I'll open my self up for embarrassment. If dekes isn't scum then fate is scum, which would mean we have 2 insane cops, which has to be explained somehow by mykonian views on intelligence agencies. Which is a stretch, but I don't want to lynch zang. I really hope he's innocent after this.

unvote, vote:Fate

Gut.

[Jack]

I've defended zang before when he's scum and if that's the case here then I haven't learned my lesson. But he seems so earnest.

[Jack]

This game is messed up.

Fate, you being town and thinking I'm scum is sad.

[Jack]

unvote, vote:zang

If he flips town then he was sane, and dekes is guilty.

[Jack]

But if it does turn out to be dekes then you guys wasted a lot of time with needless confusion.

[Jack]

It is dekes, I hate you all, it was extremely obvious until you piled all that useless crap on at the end of the day and I doubted myself.

vote:dekes

[Jack]

Nato, vanilla.

zang WAS obvtown but I got screwed up trying to figure out 2 masons in a mini with no scum nightkill. I had a post typed up about how that meant there were three mafia and thus a 3 man scum team which meant the masons were scum and then I realized it was retarded and hammered because I figured a town flip would confirm dekes guilty which was also wrong.

[Jack]

unvote


fos:don johnson

back later. I might try this game through different lenses.

[Jack]

3 man no kill scumteam wins with 1 town rvs vote on town. Or gets a draw or whatever.

[Jack]

vote:dekes

investigating yourself does nothing. You know you aren't sane so you should get a guilty regardless of whether you are insane or paranoid.

[Jack]

unvote

I want to lynch CES now. Back later.

[Jack]

"yarr" qualifies as gambiting with you? Read his ISO.

[Jack]

ces's posts post uite scum-claim

1) vote + "wuss"
2) "you say that like it's a bad thing"
*Jack + fate say uite is scum*
3) "time for hammer"

In other words he was almost random voting until we got there and then he acted like he had seen it the whole time.

[Jack]

VOTE: Jack

Last to confirm is obviously scum.

vote: jack

isn't the jack wagon the one uite jumped off of thereby revealing himself as scum? this ones open and shut. no?

ON THE OTHER HAND, WE HAVE DON JOHNSON

[Jack]

vote:CES

[Jack]

VOTE: Jack

Last to confirm is obviously scum.

vote: jack

isn't the jack wagon the one uite jumped off of thereby revealing himself as scum? this ones open and shut. no?

EXPLAIN THIS TO ME

[Jack]

Ok, so this wasn't my best game. But I blame uite.

[Jack]

FATE. WHAT THE HELL.

[Jack]

Oh well, other than hammering zang I have no regrets. And I was very very confused at that point and was doing it on PoE.

Fun game.

[Jack]

Woo! Victoire!

[Jack]

Don Johnson,

sane cop

Am I missing something here?

CES was the lightning rod, all investigations targeted him.

[Jack]

It's a nice setup feature actually. Allows a legitimate godfather, 2 cops means that the cop thinking the got a guilty on scum gets counterclaimed, if CES dies then the godfather blends in.