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VOTE: PlumDon't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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I didn't make the awesome list? *sniff*
No, no. Don't put me on the list out of pity. I'll survive this blow to my ego.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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I'm afraid you have me at a disadvantage. I don't recall playing with Fate before. Knowing that I had a wolf avatar narrows you down to Newbie #863, #887, or #901 - what alt did you go by in that game? (or possibly #842 - but I disavow that as one of my official games).Fate wrote:Rufflig eh?
Its been awhile my good friend.
I miss your wolf avatar.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Two miller claims already? Mmmm.
UNVOTE: Plum
Either of the two millers wish to put a number with their claim?Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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It's a very good question - especially if you are familiar with the show. Some numbers are better than others. Some numbers worked for number 2. Some numbers became the new number 2. Some numbers betrayed number two and helped number 6. You obviously lied about your number.Fate wrote:Numb er 4053096096029.
Seriously what the hell kind of question is that?Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Yes, I know - but I bet some people hadn't seen that and might have tripped themself up with a number greater than 200. Thanks for spoiling my trap.Fate wrote:Numbers for at least the roles with "Village Resident" in them were generated randomly and could range from 7 to 200.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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@tajo: That topic is dead.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Great - like I wasn't having enough trouble trying to read Jack. Barring a Jack/Fate teamup, Jack's cc might actually be true???
I fail to see the reason behind the Spyrex votes.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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I was considering Ojanen for poking at Jack but voting Spyrex without comment early on, but this current line is much more entertaining and more likely to go somewhere.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Why wait for day 2? I'll freely admit that I'm not following all the references that you guys are throwing around to past games that I've never read. chesskid obviously has some hard feelings about Hikari from a past game - that was easy enough to read. jack is purposefully acting suspicious - possibly for reads/possibly not - I don't have a handle on him. As for you, I'm curious why you faked a claim of miller.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Yeah, I can get behind that. Voting Jack when his scum list is Chess, Spyrex, & Fate is just terribad.
VOTE: EtherealCookie
Although, I suspect he may be right about Fate.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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You're voting for someone not on your scum list. I'm not.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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My thoughts on Fate runs this way: a scum Fate makes a miller fakeclaim. Only Fate is cc by Jack. As Jack is looking like he might get lynched, this poses a danger to Fate as a miller Jack flip would likely get people looking at Fate the next day. So, Fate has to back off that miller fake claim and does so by pretending it was just a gambit. So, if Fate isn't actually a scum this leads back to my earlier question: why did Fate feel the need to make a miller fake claim? What benefit for town would it bring?Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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You know what? I think I'd rather go with Fate.
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So how about I improve the odds a little by expanding my case a bit? You were all over the map on this fake miller claim.Fate wrote:You may not know me as I know you, but your chances of getting me lynched today run around 5-10%.
Everything from ridiculing Jack's claim, lynch Jack for his fake cc, earnest repudiation of Jack's claim to Jack's claim rings true. I think a little explanation is in order and I'm unlikely to move my vote much in the meantime.
Fate claims miller in post #25
Jack cc in #28
Fate #39 "lol Jack claimed miller." "LOLZ"
Fate #40 "Jack claimed powerful PR AND MILLER??" more LZOLs
Fate #42 "LYNCHLYNCHLYNCHLYNCH"
Fate #72 "Nacho once everyone posts I'll give you a surprise"
Fate #104 "The problem with Jack is that he didn't claim miller post 1."
Fate #107 "I'm not a miller."Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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You missed the one in between.SpyreX wrote:Fate #72 "Nacho once everyone posts I'll give you a surprise"
Fate #107 "I'm not a miller."
Fate #104 "The problem with Jack is that he didn't claim miller post 1."
Why start a new line of argument about Jack's claim being untrue because of the timing of his claim just two or three posts before arguing that Jack rings true as a townie? Especially if Fate was setting up to reveal that Jack's claim was likely true. It doesn't fit.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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I was considering the possibility that both claims might be true and that there might be more such claims.
I asked Zorblag point blank in the confirmation stage whether this was a bastard game or not - considering the source of this theme, I thought such a thing would not be out of place. Zorblag stated that whatever he wrote was true, but would make no other guarantees. He also said that he had the Prisoner flavor in mind while creating the roles. So, it is quite likely that we do not have a "standard" setup.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Why? Your "SpyreX is scum", "Cookie is scum", and "Zang is town" style posts don't give your words any weight in my book. Nor do they lend themselves to helping me get a good read on you. How about you contribute some actual thoughts or analysis, first?Jack wrote:@Oj, fate, rufflig: vote cookie
And you too, Zang - since you are here.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Post Count:
Fate: 64 SpyreX: 42Chesskid3: 39
Jack: 19 The Rufflig: 18EtherealCookie: 16
Moderator: 12 (7 of which are vc)
populartajo: 8 Nachomamma8 & Ojanen: 4
Zang: 3Hiraki & Plum: 2Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Was that meant as a hammer, Fate? If it was, one of us has miscounted.
Camn miscounted too - but that is understandable in her case.
EtherealCookie: 6: populartajo (19), SpyreX (26), Jack (28), Zang (30), Plum (31), Fate (32) <--- L-1
And yes, I took #104 out of context.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Okay.Fate wrote:Ok so... your vote is still on me?
Fix that.
Confirm Vote: Fate
Fixed.
Really now. What did you expect after such a scummy looking hammer attempt, Civil Scum?Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Still L-1, Jack. Some of us aren't in such a rush to end the day without reads on nearly half the town.Jack wrote:Well we didn't want to wait for claims so:
vote:Cookie
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Tough question. Two competing wagons became one wagon on EtherealCookie who has made some terrible remarks. If this was a newbie game and EC a newbie player, I'd swear that EC was a townie and that scum was jumping all over him.SpyreX wrote:Thoughts on EK who you were voting for once upon a time.
However, this isn't a newbie game and EC isn't a newbie. I'm not opposed to a EC lynch, but I am opposed to rushing it. Honestly, this rush to lynch him is making me second guess myself and make me think that perhaps I should be listening to my newbie game experience.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Would you like to explain that statement to the newbie?chesskid3 wrote:Why in the hell did anybody vig Zang.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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I see disappeared and garroted as the methods of killing and no way to tell which one is the scum kill and which one was the vigilante kill. However, you attributed the Zang kill to the vigilante and ruled out the possibility that it was a scum kill. How?Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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I'm running off your assumption that there is a vigilante running about. I make no such claims as to the identity of the second party.
Since I can't have your answer, you can have my vote.
VOTE: chesskid3Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Wrong. I think you know that Fate was the scum night kill because you are one of the scum -- you accidently slipped up when you shared your knowledge that Zang was not the scum kill.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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@chesskid3: By which you are admitting that you are, in fact, not the vigilante. I feel much better about my vote now.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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@Plum: You know how everyone commented on how Jack's play this game is usual for him? Mis-repping is usual for me. It's my thing. I'll give you a couple recent examples one as me scum and one as me town, you can search out the rest if you wish.Newbie #1020 (Scum) Newbie #901 (Town)
@Jack: Then perhaps you can explain why Fate being killed by scum is obvious? I thought it was the other way around. Zang's intentional lurking would have made him look like he was hiding a power role and thus be a good scum kill. Fate, on the other hand, had indeed shown enough potential scumminess that the scum should have kept him around for a mislynch, but that same scumminess would have made Fate a perfect target for a vigilante. As I asked chesskid3 earlier, you want to explain that for the newbie? Because it sure as hell ain't obvious to me.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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The interesting thing about this post count is that it is misleading. Nacho, Ojanen and Plum individually have all contributed more to the game than Jack and chesskid3 combined.Spyrex wrote:Chess: 72
Jack: 24
Nacho: 4
Ojanen: 6
Plum: 6
EtherealCookie: 7: populartajo (19), SpyreX (26), Jack (28),Zang (31), Plum (33),Fate (36), Camn (37)
While Plum may suspect there was only 1 scum on EC's wagon, I suspect there were 2. That wagon grew way too fast for me to think otherwise. I'm naming Jack as one of those two scum due to his lack of any contribution to the game, his defense of chesskid3, and his refusal to answer any questions.
We already know chesskid3 is scum from his day 2 posts - insider knowledge, flailing, fishing for the vigilante role, etc.
I'm still thinking about the identity of the third scum.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Bah! Want an off-the-wall theory on the disappearance? It's Zorblag's adaptation of Professor Seltzman's machine from "Do Not Forsake Me Oh, My Darling" - the psyche swapping device. Only since the psyche can't actually swap in real life, the one who used it dies (disappears). The roles/win condition of the two are swapped. The topic of identity theft was also covered in "Schizoid Man". The series also covered other themes such as brain washing, peer pressure and individual vs group (mason flavor fits well here). So, there could even be a cult running about to boot - though that is probably a bit overkill. There is something awfully weird about disappearance as a killing method and I bet there is some strange mechanic going on in the background.
On the topic of chesskid3 and Jack - eh, seems unlikely they would both be so obvious as scum, true. Though if they are town, they certainly need to get into the game or risk receiving the MVS award (most valuable scum) for all their help to the scum faction. Personally, I'll be pissed if they both turn out to be townies who threw away this game just so they can more easily win their other games as scum because "they always play this way".Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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I don't use misrepping in every game and certainly not continuously throughout the game. It's a technique that proved useful to me in newbie games though it has completely failed here. I now suspect the technique will not work in any non-newbie game and I don't plan on using it ever again in any non-newbie game.
How many games have you been using your anti-town behavior in now and how often has it proven beneficial to the town?Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Please accept my heartfelt condolences, Ojanen.
I hope everyone else had an enjoyable Christmas.
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@chesskid3: You crossed the line in #375. You should offer Camn an apology.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Sorry, you thought I was sheeping. I don't see a problem with voting EC and believing that Fate is scummy at the same time. The conflict is me thinking that scum could be calling out another scum for distancing purposes? That is not a conflicting idea. My vote was on EC for a max of 30 minutes before I switched my vote to Fate. While Fate knows me, I've only played with Fate's alt (probably only once). I have had to guess who Fate's alt is - a guess that Fate neither confirmed nor denied. So, no, I don't have good knowledge of what Fate's play style is like. Neither post you linked to was pointless or fluff. The "pointless" post was me calling out those who appeared to be lurking. The "fluff" post was me quietly advancing a theory that EC could be townie based on what was going on in the game and my past experiences - not "fluff" although it was completely ignored by our more experienced and supposedly wiser players.Sotty7 wrote:Then there is The Rufflig. The initial vote on EC was a little sheepy. The “he might be right about Fate” bit sticks in my ribs. He is voting EC and yet willing to give him credit at the same time. Just doesn't add up, conflicting ideas. Later he switches to Fate and pushes hard even though I get the impression of the two having some history, which to me at least implies he would know Fate and his likely hood to gambit. Pointless, fluff posts also set my gut on edge and that's before I even get to his reasoning for voting Chess today.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Bingo! So why couldn't chesskid3 say that instead of floundering around and fishing for a vigilante claim? Even Jack ignored me. Garotting doesn't fit in with The Prisoner theme, so it was probably a sk kill. On a related note, the only guns I recall in the series were in the finale "Fall Out". The guns in "Living in Harmony" were fake of course. There was a bomb in "Its Your Funeral" as I recall. There was possibly poison in "Once Upon a Time". That's pretty much the lethal weapon list - unless you count rover in "Schizoid Man" - though he arguably wasn't programmed to kill.Sotty7 wrote: That said, garroted strikes me more as a SK than a vig simply because of the flavor.
I picked a fight with chesskid3 and then Jack in hopes that I could get them to actually say something. chesskid3's response makes me think I've found scum. Jack's continued anti-town play makes me think he's likely scum as well.
I actually like Camn - she's one of the few players actually participating in scum hunting. The only thing I haven't liked about Camn's play is her note that the EC wagon was going to fast for her and then she hammered on said wagon 3 & 1/2 hours later.
I like SpyreX, too.
I'm undecided on nacho, atm.
Plum and tajo seem slightly scummy.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Seriously, Plum? You find my dropping a small scum tell now and then to be rage worthy, but don't even lift an eyebrow at Jack or chesskid3?Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Townie: Newbie #842 (replaced out), #863, #887, #901
Scum: Newbie #913, #1020
Ongoing: Mini #1099Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Ok, Sotty7, in your latest post you have now done to me what I have done to others. You have deliberately taken me out of context and picked a fight with me. As such, I see no need to respond to it.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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I really get the feeling you aren't reading the thread, Sotty7.
But ok, as far as the EC wagon goes. After I voted for him, you may notice I posted my case on Fate - by request. It was shortly after that post that I moved my vote to Fate as I felt the case on Fate was stronger. So, yes, there was a transition from EC to Fate. Sorry you missed it. As for my other posts not being loud enough for you - tough. I wasn't about to stick my neck out for someone that I didn't firmly feel was town.
You even quoted me and _still_ apparently do not understand what I said -- the only other alternative was that you were deliberately misrepresenting me. Is it not glaringly obvious that I was challenging chesskid3's beliefs and trying to goad him into making some sort of statement to support his beliefs?Sotty7 wrote:
You seemingly agree with Chess about the Vig in post 320. Your reason for voting him is how he attributed the kills. You make zero mention of a possible SK so to jump on my reasoning after the fact makes little sense.The Rufflig Post 322 wrote:I'm running off your assumption that there is a vigilante running about. I make no such claims as to the identity of the second party.
Since I can't have your answer, you can have my vote.
VOTE: chesskid3
As for Jack, I don't care if this is how he always plays - it is extremely anti-town. So, if he isn't scum, then he is playing [censored][censored!][censored!]badly for a townie.
I'm looking forward to Jack fulfilling his promise that he is actually going to contribute to the game - eventually.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Well, this wagon is going about as fast as the last one. Anyone wanna compare wagons?
EtherealCookie (7): populartajo, SpyreX, Jack,Zang, Plum,Fate, camn
Nachomamma8 (4): Plum, populartajo, camn, SpyreX (L-1)
All that is missing is a hammer from Jack and the people on the two wagons will be identical. Anyone want to claim that scum isn't all over this?Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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You'll never know how painful this is, but at this point I'd rather see anyone on those two wagons lynched over Nacho. So,
UNVOTE: chesskid3
VOTE: Plum
one counterwagon coming up.
Loud enough for you, Sotty7?
And damn me for voting with chesskid3.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Anyone know what happened to the troll?Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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@camn: I'm inclined to believe that sotty7 was the only mafia member on the plum wagon. I am not willing to clear anyone on that wagon of being the sk, yet. SpyreX's hammer in particular seemed "off" to me - more of an IGMEOY for SpyreX, though.
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As far as the remaining mafia member goes, I'm inclined to think he was indeed on the EC wagon - especially since Plum asserted the belief that there was only 1 scum on that wagon. Of the four remaining players on the EC wagon, I'm betting on populartajo or Jack. Yes, I know Jack has that whole counterclaimed miller thing going for him, but 1) I don't believe he is a miller 2) He forgot where his vote was on Day 1 and 3) He isn't contributing. So he can remain a suspect in my book.
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@Jack: It's bloody later. Where is the more we were promised late yesterday?Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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I don't think claims are going to help us, SpyreX. If we have an awesome PR, the pr will speak up when he thinks it will be of benefit for the town. I would ask that the mason remain quiet at this time and not claim.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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The reason I don't want the mason to claim is that I've figured out who it is. There is a specific post the mason can point to in this thread and prove that he is the mason - if he makes it into endgame. I do not believe he will make it into endgame if he is confirmed as a townie today. So - no - I don't want to see the mason claim today.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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@Nachomamma8: True, Jack did pull the nk drawing gambit in that game, but he was also an active participant in that game. So, in that respect, the game you linked proves that Jack is not playing to his established town meta in this game. I think we're going to have to disagree on this one as I don't see anything that compells me to believe Jack is town.
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Anyway, we have 3 (out of a needed 4) people who have said they are willing to lynch populartajo today. Jack hasn't expressed any preferences (big surprise). SpyreX wants a mass claim (slim chance) otherwise he favors a no lynch or a Nachomamma8 lynch. populartajo will be in the hot seat when he makes his appearance.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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I'm not being coy. I know who it is. You are appealing to the wrong person. If you want a mass claim then you need some support from the other players.
So far, it is one player for a mass claim and one player against.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Don't blame the lack of claim on me. camn, Jack and Nachomamma8 have all ignored your call to mass claim, SpyreX.
But I'll tell you who the mason is anyhow - it's become painfully obvious who it is from our little exchange. I'm willing to vote Jack or populartajo - so they aren't the mason. Nachomamma8 claimed survivor - so he isn't the mason. You obviously aren't the mason. I claim not to be the mason. Gee, who is left? Oh, yes. camn is the mason. Remember that bet Fate had with chesskid3 about camn's alignment? Fate had no chance of losing. You can even see where Fate back pedaled in that exchange to try and hide the fact that he knew camn's alignment.
I hope you're happy now.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Vanilla.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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The sk? Who is the last mafia then?Jack wrote:so Nacho IS the sk. He's the lynch then.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Nevermind - reading fail.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Any cop or doc drops to try and draw a nk from the scum, populartajo?
How about a little more flavor on the bulletproof?Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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The flavor sounds plausible to me.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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I still have that off-the-wall theory about the disappearances. The role of number 2 is moving around like a hot potato at night. Each day has started with the name of a Prisoner episode. Day 1: Free for All: number 58 becomes the new number 2 at the end of the episode. Day 2: It's Your Funeral: Number 2 retires and is replaced with a new number 2 at the end of the episode. Day 3: Hammer into Anvil: Number 6 causes number 2 to be replaced at the end of the episode.
I hope number 2 can no longer move around since all his support is gone, but I wouldn't count on it.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Spyrex, the second mafia was a Watcher. Do you really think there is no #2 in this game?Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Because we had already speculated early day 2 that we had a serial killer and not a vigilante. A vigilante claim ran the risk of not being believed followed by a quick lynch as a sk.camn wrote:@Jack: why wouldn't hypo-SK-nacho have claimed vig when he got run up?
@ Self... why wouldn't hypo-sk-poptajo have claimed vig just now?Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Sorry about the wall - I've been trying to reduce the number of walls that I use but sometimes there is no substitute. I keep getting the same results: either Jack or populartajo is the last mafia scum.
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camn: mason - cannot be mafia or sk unless we are dealing with a neighbors/unconfirmed mason version of mason.
SpyreX: vanilla townie? - said I lost a million townie points for following chesskid3 onto Plum and then ended up hammering Plum a few posts later. If SpyreX was mafia scum he could have continued with his vote on Nachomamma8, moved his vote to me, or simply unvoted. The offhand way he hammered belied any interest in gaining townie points. Just does not seem like a mafia gambit to hammer partner.
Nachomamma8: survivor?? - Was not on the original EC lynch. I still think there were two mafia on it. Plus third party claim rings fairly true. Also appears to have been scum hunting. I do not think he is mafia.
populartajo: mafia? - Keeping this short as this stuff has already been mentioned - populartajo's play/vote record seems to fit my definition of a not so active scum. However, populartajo's bulletproof claim seems to fit in well game balance wise.
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Even so, the balance doesn't seem quite right for the game as a whole. If tajo is survivor - two mislynch = mafia win if a scum doesn't get nk'd.
A vigilante would seem to have been a more balanced role than a sk - even if there isn't a survivor. Something is missing.
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Jack: mafia?? - pulled a fake claim early day 1 in a possible attempt to draw the nk.
Question: has Jack ever pulled an early day 1 fake claim as a mafia scum or a pr?
If the mafia Jack is attempting to play like his townie self then I believe he would attempt it from time to time especially as it seems everyone expects him to do it as a townie - he could get away with it.
Jack appears to have mostly lurked through day 1 and day 2.
Question: As scum does Jack generally appear less active/interested in the game than when he is a townie?
Jack's suspect list day 1 and 2 (excluding rvs): fate(voted), SpyreX(voted), EtherealCookie(voted), Nacho, Zang, camn and The Rufflig.
Did not suspect: Sotty7, Plum, populartajo, chesskid3.
RVS? was Ojanen/Sotty7
Largest wagon on Jack (day 1): Fate, SpyreX, Hiraki/camn, Plum
Distancing by Plum? Ojanen was overall supportive of Jack's play. If Jack was town would another scum have joined this wagon or was it too weak a case? Was Ojanen's read on Jack honest or deflecting?
I wish there was more to look at for Jack.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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*sigh* So we're basing our lynch based on claim and game balance then?
I would like to amend my claim. I may not be awesome, but I am the BOMB!
Number 33 paranoid bomb setting village resident at your service. It is a reactive ability, if I am targetted an explosion will be heard in thread. The person who targetted me will end up 'exploded' as cause of death, if they can not survive an explosion (Rover probably could have). Note: my reactive ability does not stop whatever action was targetted at me.
When I saw everyone who I thought might be townie had no targetting roles, I decided to duck. I hinted at a bomb back here.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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Specifically, it is targets me with an active ability. It makes no nevermind what the ability actually does.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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I've had a hard time choosing between Jack and populartajo, but I'm betting on Jack.
VOTE: JackDon't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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To be honest, I'm still ok with a populartajo lynch. I'm almost ok with a no lynch as it is fairly likely the sk will go after populartajo and the mafia will go after Nachomamma8. As these are our two biggest suspects anyway... I know it's not a good idea, but it is fun to fantasize about.Don't Panic!Where there's life there's hope. Be seeing you!
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