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Post Post #19 (isolation #0) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:31 am

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I've decided to play a game not using my typical style just to prove to myself that I'm still right. The majority of you can disregard this, but to the few who do know me (TheAdmiral, CyberBob?), you can expect me to explain my votes this game.
Umbrage wrote:*doesn't random vote*

*waits for people to say not random voting is scummy*

*waits for people to say that saying not random voting is scummy is scummy*
Umbrage, not random voting aside, stifling conversation is bad, and that's what you've done by playing this out before it happens. Can you explain why you thought that would be a good thing?

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Post Post #29 (isolation #1) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:38 am

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Umbrage, answer my question please.
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Post Post #34 (isolation #2) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:27 am

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Wtf does that have to do with anything?

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Just cause I'm no longer voting you doesn't mean you are off the line from answering my question.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #3) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:15 pm

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Umbrage wrote:Every game I've seen has started with someone who doesn't do RVS, and is then bandwagoned. I wanted to shake things up a little.
Have you ever thought about why games have a tendency to open like that?

If you wanted to make things open differently why the deconstructive approach instead of a constructive one?
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Post Post #40 (isolation #4) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:27 pm

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@ortiz
Several of you seem to know each other from another site, is there a subtext going on here someone not from that site should know about?
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Post Post #42 (isolation #5) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:36 pm

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Olinea wrote:I hate answering questions for others, I've been called out on it, but this should bring us all up to speed.
I don't mind that you answered this one specifically, and I know you claim to hate doing so, but in the future please don't answer questions directed at other people. You have no way of knowing if I would mind or not, and far more often than not, I will.
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Post Post #46 (isolation #6) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:48 pm

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I thought the question directed at me was quite rhetorical?
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Post Post #48 (isolation #7) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:11 pm

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So you wanted me to say "yes"? I don't really see what other meaning my statement could have had.
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Post Post #52 (isolation #8) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:32 pm

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Are you asking me?
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Post Post #54 (isolation #9) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:36 pm

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Your reasoning seems like nonsense to me. But not just nonsense, nonsense that looks passable at only a glance. That's the scummy kind of nonsense imo.
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Post Post #56 (isolation #10) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:59 pm

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Point to a single post of mine so far that's lacking content. Every single one has had a purpose.
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Post Post #58 (isolation #11) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:04 pm

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You would have had me ignore Koopa?
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Post Post #81 (isolation #12) » Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:31 am

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ThAdmiral wrote:
chamber wrote:Are you asking me?
Yes. Don't play coy. This is the second time you avoided giving a reason to your vote.

I see you have since done so. Thank you for that, but why not state this up front?
I wasn't being coy, you quoted someone else when asking what you asked, the content of that quote was about me, so I assumed you were asking me the question, but generally questions below quotes are directed at the poster of the quote. I was mildly confused so asked for clarities sake.

I'm not used to this entire explaining myself thing. I'm trying.
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Post Post #85 (isolation #13) » Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:48 am

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ortiz, have you ever had an original thought?
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Post Post #92 (isolation #14) » Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:49 am

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Umbrage wrote:
The "is this question rhetorical, are you asking me, I thought that was the other guy" posts can go. For Pete's sake, we're already on page 3. It's Christmas, people. Relax.

Also, people shouldn't have to explain their random votes. That's because they are random. Scum and town approach the RVS in the same way. It's all null, people.
Post count doesn't mean that much, many of the posts in here are fast 1 liners. Clarity is important enough to justify all of the posts I've made that you seem to find useless, I shall continue to make them as long as people aren't clear. Scum and town DON'T approach the RVS the same way.
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Post Post #97 (isolation #15) » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:34 am

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Umbrage, I think your campaign against spam has been the spammiest thing in the thread so far, how do you respond?
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Post Post #110 (isolation #16) » Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:00 am

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Umbrage, do you have any off-site experience to justify your level of arrogance? Or does it just come naturally?
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Post Post #128 (isolation #17) » Fri Dec 24, 2010 4:51 pm

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el simo makes perfect sense. A 'random' vote is never random. He's giving more meaning to the made up way we use it than I normally do but its within reason. Easy wagon is too easy.

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Post Post #130 (isolation #18) » Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:40 pm

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I'm being perfectly serious. Each added vote should come with added weight. There is absolutely no reason for him to have 4 votes on him for what hes done so far.
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Post Post #145 (isolation #19) » Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:59 pm

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el simo wrote:
unvote: Umbrage


I just made another ranting post about how you don't understand, and then noticed at the bottom of the post you said, "I just don't what to think," which implies I'm right and you don't understand, I guess that can be townie motivation.

Vote: Ortiz
I actually found that throw away line at the bottom to be incredibly scummy. He's framed his post in a way to attack you but isn't committing to it. It looks scummy as hell. Fewer people should be scummy in this game, I can't vote for all of you.

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Post Post #158 (isolation #20) » Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:09 am

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Thank you for verifying my read, Umbrage.
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Post Post #160 (isolation #21) » Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:43 am

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Olinea wrote:
ThAdmiral wrote:
el simo wrote:Do you want to explain that discrepancy or do you want to keep on being subtle and vague?
I believe you tried to make a "random" or jokey vote and you copped heat for it and are now trying to explain your way out of it.
This looks like an admission that the vote was legitimately RVS without any reasoning and now people are attacking el simo for it.
And what conclusions do you draw from that observation?
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Post Post #182 (isolation #22) » Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:33 pm

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@Furcolow:
helpful pointer #1: Don't make walls of text about pointless things.

How isn't Umbrage under more pressure? His play has been transparently scum driven.
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Post Post #225 (isolation #23) » Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:19 pm

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@Furcolow
Why do you have a town read on sorasgoof?
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Post Post #229 (isolation #24) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:44 am

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Umbrage wrote: @ chamber: Either make a proper case on me or get off my wagon. And I mean a case laid out in a single post. Reading your ISO is like wading through a swamp.
The type of 'proper case' you seem to want is incredibly anti-town, so there is no way I'm giving you one. My ISO is likely a faster read than yours, you can deal with reading it. A bunch on 1 liners >>>>> walls of text. Add this ultimatum to the list of things that make you scummy.
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Post Post #243 (isolation #25) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:05 pm

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@Umbrage
I'm not going to argue theory with you. You are wrong, but you can learn that by reading MD or something. Until then I wont hold you being wrong against you.

I really don't understand your inability understand that 'random' doesn't actually mean random.

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Why do you feel like furcolow is an easy lynch? He doesn't look like it at all to me.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #26) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:29 pm

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el simo wrote:
chamber wrote:
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Why do you feel like furcolow is an easy lynch? He doesn't look like it at all to me.
Because as soon as someone votes him he will reply with a wave of OMGUS which someone else will think is a scum tell and will vote him and then he will start complaining about how he should be replaced or how he should be mod killed or how it's all unfair or how he is going to vote himself or AoE the hell out of us and then someone will decided this is a scum tell and vote him for that and then you have genius' like Cyberbob who will push policy lynches on him because he doesn't present his cases in the most coherent sentences and then next thing we know we will have lynch of someone who actually hasn't done anything scummy.

It happens every game. Literally, if he isn't shot at night he goes down in a ball fire, guns blazing at everyone after scum decided to push his wagon off a cliff. He is like a magnet for them.

Furcolow is the burly that chums the waters mafia swim in.
Your previous post suggested you thought ScumCyberBob was on the lynch because he thought it would be easy. This one suggests you think hes on it as an earnest policy lynch. Which is it?
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Post Post #249 (isolation #27) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:42 pm

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'random' as used in 'random vote' doesn't mean 'random' at all.
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Post Post #252 (isolation #28) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:51 pm

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el simo wrote: Because as soon as someone votes him he will reply with a wave of OMGUS which someone else will think is a scum tell and will vote him and then he will start complaining about how he should be replaced or how he should be mod killed or how it's all unfair or how he is going to vote himself or AoE the hell out of us and then someone will decided this is a scum tell and vote him for that and
then you have genius' like Cyberbob who will push policy lynches on him
because he doesn't present his cases in the most coherent sentences and then next thing we know we will have lynch of someone who actually hasn't done anything scummy.
Bold mine.

The "genius'" used there is clearly intended as a tongue and cheek attack on cyberbobs intelligence, if he's scum he wouldn't be unintelligent for pushing a policy lynch on town.
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Post Post #394 (isolation #29) » Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:53 pm

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Sorry, fell behind in this game cause of holidays and stuff. Wanted to do a reread before posting but I haven't quite finished and am going to bed, so expect a post with actual substance like 9 hours from now.
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