Because of werewolves and stuff.
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- Maybe that's because I don't have an opinion. Andrew's points, though far out, have validity. As do Jason's, Shotty's, and Guthrie's. I have no overtly negative read on any of them, so why wouldn't I start off with an RVS vote?smashbro_of_the_SSS wrote:vote: chkflipcomes on with a random vote, comes back soon after to make another joke, and has no take on any events so far. right.
- This, to me, looks scummy.
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- As I have no current leads, I have noone to currently vote on, short you - but at this point, that'd just be silly and quite OMGUS. I'll be back with questions for (pretty much) everyone in my next post."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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VOTE: drmyshottyizsik
For every reason already stated. 1] Trying way too hard to lynch andrew. 2] the behavior changed pointed out by jason. 3] Even if his opinion of andrew was valid (which it clearly isn't) he's tunneling beyond the point of being merely anti-town."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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- Now we're all parrots, squawking off one another. Happy?andrew94 wrote:through, reactions from my plan, i can tell that shotty is either mafia/werewolf"Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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Really, the only thing I don't get about andrew's plan is why we'd out the seer day one. That's not pro-town at all.
@Shotty:
- Happy Thanksgiving in advance, since you'll be v/la.
- What is your responce to not attacking andrew's assenine plans in the past?
- What's your opinion of Opposed Force? Do you think he's just jumping an easy wagon?
- Anything you want to share now that you're at L-2?
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- How often do you base your cases on metagaming?"Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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UNVOTE:
- With five scum candidates, it makes for easier mislynches.
- I'd like to hear shotty's opinion on parknourie's most recent accusation.
- I'd like to hear shotty elaborate on this andrew/of/erinyes possibility.
- I shouldn't have to mention that it's only page 6/7 into day 1 and that scum could easily hammer shotty, who may very well just be over-excited. I mean, he's sixteen. It happens."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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@Shotty:
- What are you, dumb or scum?Circular Reasoning wrote:Starting with a false assumption and then building a "house of cards" argument on that single assumption is a common part of the game of Mafia, by sheer virtue of the way in which the game is structured. So many unknown factors, abilities, and allegiances exist in the typical game (and especially in an atypical game, such as a Theme Game or Experimental Game), that each Day is an exercise in sorting out truth from fiction.
It can be difficult at times to tell who is building false arguments based onignorance(and therefore likely to be ProTown, if somewhat ineffective), and who is building false arguments based onsecret knowledge(Scum in possession of the ability to place blame without fear of hitting their teammates). Arguments which seem particularly well-reasoned, or based on hidden assumptions that no one else shares, can sometimes be evidence of scummy behavior. On the other hand, it may be evidence of a Cop with a guilty result who is unwilling to roleclaim yet!"Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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- How is this?andrew94 wrote:my dear friend shootyy.
i have said: this would cause from for example
33% town win chance --> 40% chance
33% mafia chance ----> 40% chance
33% werewolf chance ----->20% chance"Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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Not to mention that, if anything, eliminating the seer would givewerewolvesthe advantage as town's vice is then extinguished."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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- How don't they match?iamausername wrote:
Your conclusion doesn't match your observations.smashbro_of_the_SSS wrote:i just ISO'd andrew, and look what i found. he has talked about his plan for half of his posts, and in the other half, merely said i think this person is scum, this person is town, etc. with NO CASE AT ALL. not even a reason for why someone is ranked more likely town or scum than anyone else. Andrew, please give reasons for your reads on people. Right now, he's looking like a mafia trying to blend in as town.vote andrew
- What's your case against Erinyes?
- What do you think about the cases against andrew and shotty thus far?
- If you had a daykill, who would you use it on? Why?"Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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@people_concerned_about_the_Erinyes_case:
- Thought I'd update. There is no case on Erinyes. iamausername "has a feeling", it's SV's RVS-looking vote, and it's andrew saying "BELIEVE ME GUIEZ". All of which are assenine.
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- It's both. You haven't posted much,and what you haveis just fodder.
- Could you elaborate on the shotty case, from your own standpoint?"Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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- You guys realize you have Erinyes atL-2with absolutely no case on him, right? Simply lynching andrew afterward won't help us any either... what if they'rebothtown? What then?
- Shotty, eh, he's beginning to look much less scummy now that he's toned down the posts. He's also atL-2.
- Also, here's a thought. What if werewolvesdon'tkill mafia and life isn't the big eutopia you want it to be? Then what? We're fucked harder. And harder.
Vote: andrew94
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- You realize that that would meanyou'rescum, right?
- Also, note: what if mafia doesn't come out? Werewolves aim random, kill all.
- lurking? No. Last visited: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:20 am. He simply hasn't been on site.
- Who's the idiot? Oh, the guy throwing out bogus thoughts. Gotit."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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- Players who go for more than 72 hours will be prodded. If you are prodded and do not respond within 24 hours, you will be replaced.
- ...Erinyes hasn't been on in a week."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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@iamausername:
- I would've responded to you first, but I'm currently writing an english compare/contrast paper. No fun. [/whinecomplain]
- I think andrewistrying to blend in as town in his own unconventional way. Shoving tells around without any rhyme or reason seems like a man that doesn't want to have to explain himself; furthermore, it shows (especially with his blatant disregard to see anyone else's side) that he's deathly attempting to push this mislynch.
- Fair enough, we'll wait for Guthrie.
- The PL bit was a joke, people want him lynched for actual reasons now. I've stated some... as have others.
- You don't like how the shotty train grew? Elaborate, please.
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- Good to hear. That last post was a bit worrisome."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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- Scott, I already said it in a previous post, there's no actual case against you. They're all just "gut feelings" and going off of what andrew has said. A single person has said they have a case but decline to actually bring it forward, which makes me think it's a crock of shit.
- To note, I'm ill. If you want something from me, directly ask and I'll try. No promises, though."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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- And we've all stated that just your gut isn't enough for a town to follow you. That's stupid. Come up with something logical and maybe it'll get more steam."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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- I'd like to note that there's only ONE DAY left in this phase. Let's not waste the lynch on a hunch, mmk? Let's come to some sort of agreement. Please."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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- Also, Jason, everyone who's voted for Scott has a weak ass reason OR they "decline to state", which is also a weak ass reason. Just to clarify."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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Not in the slightest. If you're town, I'm trimming the completely worthless fat that you are in every game I've played with you. Thing is... I don't think you're town."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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And seriously? I'M the retard? The one who has a sound argument... is retarded? Scott asked for a case, and that is? "Oh... uhhh... well, I don't have a case. BUT what I do have is a solemn swear that you can lynch me if he's not."
Look in the mirror.
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The case against parknourie(in a nutshell)
- He's been found to blatantly contradict himself.
- He's sheople'ing with andrew forno reasonother than "trusting" andrew's gut.
- Upon being asked for said case (several times), he "didn't feel like" showing it. Meaning there isn't one.
- Slip-up when calling me a werewolf, when he couldn't know that for sure (unless he's mafia, and even then it's a shot in the dark).
- More upon request, but I'd say these are pretty blatant tells."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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Ughhhh... though his play has calmed down drastically, I don't have faith in you people to get park lynched today.
VOTE: drmyshottyizsik"Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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- Read his posts in the first, oh, five pages. AFTER andrew comes up with that ridiculous scheme to kill off the seer, etc. He just kinda flips out, which is so obviously against his town-meta as, in a game linked by jason, andrew did something similar and town-shotty didn't give a shit. That's the main reason why, not that werewolfy crap SV said. Though that is a smaller thing to note, he's slipped. A lot.Scott Brosius wrote:What is the case on shotty?"Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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Wow, this game is going down a road to nowhere good. Let's pick up the pace or something guys, I'd hate to see this game aborted."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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Erinyes wrote:
*Red cross* Incorrect. Hello? His original plan wanted the seer out first and afterwards the mafia, which are dangerous for end-game situations to the wolves. Guess what he is?drmyshottyizsik wrote:Andrew stop trying to make it to where to mafia can win easilly you are just hard core claiming mafiavote andrew
Anyway, Andrew, how does it help to know if scum may claim in a 2-2-1 (1 town player) situation? In that situation, if a wolf gets lynched, the day afterwards it's either 1-1-1 or 1-2-1, both resulting in a mafia win. If a mafia is lynched, wolves win. And in case of a no-lynch, it depends on who gets killed during the night (I think as I dunno who wins when you enter day in a 2-2-0 situation >.<)Erinyes wrote:
So your reason for you thinking I'm a wolf comes from the fact that I don't support your plan, which would basically eliminate the seer and the mafia if we do it and if it works. And I as wolf wouldn't support that, because?andrew94 wrote:from reactions, shotty is a mafia and erinys is a wolf
Also, how nice of you to answer my question.
Sorry, Iam. The correct feeling is at Andrew. But you may state it if you disagree that Andrew's plan is scummy (suggesting to sacrifice the seer D1) and pointless (rule #7). This vote is better than a random vote.
- Please, in great detail, explain to me what about these posts are scummy to you. The way I see it, it's because he thinks your plan is as assenine as everyone else (short one idiot) does. Go.Erinyes wrote:
*huggles*Shattered Viewpoint wrote:I HATE YOU ALL"Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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As a player who's probably jumped the most often in this frantic voting process, we really do need to come to some sort of concencus on this you guys. We've gotten an extention on the deadline already. With five scum, it's probably going to take a large portion of the seven townies to come to a lynch because the werewolves obviously aren't going to vote against the werewolves and the same goes for the mafia. Bussing on D1? Probably the furthest from a likely scenario. That being said, it's pretty obvious that one of these is right on the mark.
Andrew, parknourie, and drmyshottyizsik. One or more of these three names is scum of some flavor, lest we'd have come to a mislynch far sooner than needing a deadline extention that can very well ultimately lead to a mislynch, which could ultimately lead to a worst case scenario of five townies and five scum. Not. Good.
It is my firm belief that jason's observation of shotty's reaction (be it that you agree or disagree with metagaming) is the most prominent scumtell of them all, with andrew's recent(ly faked) V/LA taking a close second. Seriously.
LYNCH. SHOTTY.
We only need two more votes, and it's coming up to the last few days of this extended deadline. Let's do this, guys."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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One or more of these three names is scum of some flavor, lest we'd have come to a mislynch far sooner than needing a deadline extention that can very well ultimately lead to aNO lynch, which could ultimately lead to a worst case scenario of five townies and five scum.
A mislynch would also be no good, but like I already said, I truly believe shotty is scum. Why else would he call for a lynch on andrew so hastily and angrily? Andrew's plan was the most negative against the mafia. 1 + 1 = 2."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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- He's saying if shotty shows up as town. Which really makes me beleive even furthermore that he has insider information, which leads me to believe that he's mafia and the aforementioned meta-tell could really be shottytown being regular shotty withholding nothing. Scary thought.jasonT1981 wrote:
Also what do you mean consiqences?parknourie wrote:Vote: drmyshotty
I guess this is what EVERYONE wants, so I'll just do it.
Don't blame me with the consequences (hmm...I'm really IRRESPONSIBLE...)"Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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No, goddamnit. I'm not wasting a lynch on tardo-townie andrew. Let's make arealcase and come together for a good laugh when andrew realizes nobody is listening to him.
LET'S DO THIS!
I'd give real content, but I'm studying for an English exam right now. We have to write a timed essay... and I'm not good at those. So yeah. No VLA or anything, but just a bit less content for tonight and maybe tomorrow."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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VOTE: Shattered Viewpoint
- Your name is quite ironic, given the circumstances. Why do you want to lynch Andrew?
- How do you think you played D1?
- Who are your top suspects for the three mafia and one remaining werewolf? Proof?
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- What DP said. I know you're just trying to help, but even andrew's reasons (which you've FINALLY gotten out of him) are half-assed at best. We'd best ignore him and make certain we're on the right path before sticking someone on L-1 without andrew already on the train. Gotta love VI's, eh?"Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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VOTE: PARKSCUMMY
Are you serious, Park? You flip-flopped from "I TRUST YOU~~" to "HOW DO WE TRUST THIS GUY". No. Just... just no."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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Heyo Later, how's that a slip?
Also, just because I played a fair game with you, as scum, doesn't mean I'm going to be scum in every game thereafter. Care to explain where I seem scummy to you, chief? So far, you've said nothing beyond "suspecting". Do give reason, please.
VOTE: Shattered Viewpoint
Gotta be honest, though, I'm glad the wolves took Scott out for us. Was that intentional, Shattered, or did you think he was town?"Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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He said that because people are blindly calling him scum... for what? Hammering... scum? Bitch, please. I'm in a game where shotty hammered without just cause, warning, or shit anything, and that was alright. What's the corrolation?
You're fucking strawmanning. Hammering doesn't mean shit.
Furthermore, why the fffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck would ONE SOLITARY ANYTHING, be it wolf or mafia, kill off a partner in a 5-3-2 setup? (Or was it 7-3-2, IDR) Those numbers are already drastically small and rough for said groups, killing off your partner seems beyond a reasonable gambit.
Unless you're calling DP stoopid, in which case, he's definitely not as stupid as andrew.
P.S. Where's that self-hammer at?
P-EDIT: another great fucking point, thank you Later."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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@jason, Later. Fair point that I forgot to include his name... though I didn't expect you to jump in and post a single sentence."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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I'd suspect that scummates would stay off one-another's wagons when it comes to dropping the hammer; however, it's not completely farfetched for them to vote for one-another for townpoints."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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Indeed, but there hasn't been a hammer. Nor was Scott anywhere near lynched. See where I'm going with this? Bussing is always a possibility, I'm talking moreso about hammering."Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.-
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