Newbie 1053: Wait, what? Game over?!

[Nobody Special]

Hi, everyone!

I'm your friendly neighborhood Inexperienced Challenged player, or IC for short.

What that means, basically, is that I'm here to help guide you through the mystery that is MafiaScum.net.

If you have any questions about how we play here, feel free to ask me. My actions are governed by this article in our Wiki. If you haven't already, you might consider browsing our Wiki; especially the articles Newbie Guide and Commonly Used Abbreviations.

Regardless of my role in this game, I won't mislead you about theory or proper gameplay. My role as an IC comes before my role in this game (and they're separate roles), so at times, you may see me putting my

IC Hat On

and then taking my

IC Hat Off

.

Because of my severe dislike of the RVS (you

did

read the Common Abbreviations, didn't you? I'll wait.) I like to start off with RQS; the Random Question Stage!

Forthwith:

1) Are you having fun yet?

2) Chocolate or vanilla?

3) How many Mafia games have you played (here or elsewhere)?

4) Lynch all Liars?

5) Math or Sports?

6) Lynch all Lurkers?

7) What do

you

think of the RVS?


I'll post my answers soon, or after everyone, depending on consensus.



(Note: That's my standard IC Intro post. Feel free to ignore the duplicated questions. But I simply

must

know your flavor preference.)

[Nobody Special]

Questions for every one to answer: (first ones stolen from ICE)
1) What is everybody's timezone? This can be important if you live overseas and we're expecting a post from you, and it wont come until the wee hours of the morning.
2) What is your mafia experience here and elsewhere? It helps my reads to know who are the pros and who are still learning.
3) About how often can we expect you to post?
4) How long do you expect your posts to be?
5) Do you prefer either informative roles (such as cop) or protective/active roles (such as doc)?
6) Do you prefer to play town or scum?
7) Hot dogs or hamburgers?
8) Are you scum?
9) Did you answer all these questions seriously?

1) Pacific. At the moment, it's 9:30am.
2) I've played about 30 games here. A handful elsewhere (which hardly count).
3) I'll try my very best to post every RL day.
4) It varies, depending on how much I have to say.
5) Frequently.
6) Town. It's too hard for me to keep track of my deceptions.
7) Only for dinner.
8) Sometimes.
9) Of course!

[Nobody Special]

Nobody's questions:

4) Lynch all Liars?

4) Yes, but if it's a well-intentioned gambit then it's okay.

So if someone lies but

means well,

it's okay. Got it.


@LordC: Don't be hatin. It's critical to know how many chocoholics we have on board.


@Akira: What's not to get?

[Nobody Special]

Serious dissonance between username and avatar.

Vote: bacon

[Nobody Special]

Well, to get something moving:

8) Sometimes.

A confirmational answer on the question "are you scum?" is 4/5 of the times given by scum in a sarcastic way.
Sometimes is neither near a confirmation nor near a denial.
That is good enough for me.

Well, the reason for that non-committal answer was to keep in line with my

other

non-committal answer [5) Frequently.].

@Maxous: Just because I don't like something doesn't mean I avoid doing it. I do tend to eat my vegetables.

@Trendall: Nope, nothing yet.

[Nobody Special]

See, your first mistake is thinking I know what I'm doing. I suck at this game. Srsly. (Ask anyone.)

[Nobody Special]

@ Nobody special: Let's say a day vig would vig scum jediknight, who would be his scumpartner?

LordChronos. Just a gut feeling so far; I think it's a bit early to be making partner assumptions.

@ wredfar: Although Nobody special is scum, do you think he is doing his IC task without taking into account his alignment?

This isn't fair -- and I think you know it. IGMEOY.

unvote

[Nobody Special]

@ wredfar: Although Nobody special is scum, do you think he is doing his IC task without taking into account his alignment?

This isn't fair -- and I think you know it. IGMEOY.

@ConS: Any response to this?

Vote: ConSpiracy

[Nobody Special]

So you pick somebody random to start a bandwagon on, and then declare me scummy for being skeptical of the reasoning behind that bandwagon?

Plus, in Nobody Special's answer, I am seeing absolutely nothing that suggests he is 'eager to find connections'. He made a connection because you asked him to, and then went on to say that it was just a gut feeling and it was too early to be making partner assumptions. What you've done here is lured Nobody Special into making a connection between two people, and then having done that, accused him of being scum for making connections. Don't like it.

VOTE: ConSpiracy

It was about you panicking and failing to even give an answer.

The NS thing was done wrong. I had to go away this afternoon and didn't have the time to review my post. I meant it was townish, since he didn't want to make connections. However, I still think the earlier reasons for him being scum were good enough to vote for him.

@ wredfar:

Although Nobody special is scum,

do you think he is doing his IC task without taking into account his alignment?

This isn't fair -- and I think you know it. IGMEOY.

@ConS: Any response to this?

Vote: ConSpiracy

I said this for that:

And if you were wondering why the IC thing, I just had to find something to distract from the underlying thought (NS is scum)

I didn't want to discredit you at all.

I just wanted wredfar's reaction to it.

Okay. I see your entire response to me, but it hardly makes sense, taken all together. In the first bolded part, you call me scum. In the second bolded part, you don't want to "discredit" me

at all.

Does not compute.

@Max: This is why i'm voting ConSpiracy. I feel that he's scum, trying to paint other players as ascum (and not very well, at that).

[Nobody Special]

@Mod:

Can we get prods for jediknight and wredfar?

[Nobody Special]

Oh sure, hide them where no one can find them.

[Nobody Special]

Oh. Well, thanks for clearing that up. I still think it was a rather disengenuous thing to say in the first place, and I still think you're scum.

[Nobody Special]

Con has 4 votes. One more and he's lynched

Except I see you aren't voting for anyone.

Who's your top suspect right now?

[Nobody Special]

Well, I'm waiting for wredfar to come back and answer my question.

I think it's slightly suspicious that he dropped in to simply point out that ConSpiracy was at L-1. This grows even more suspicious with his apparent active lurking that is beginning to be a pattern.

[Nobody Special]

Well, I answered Conspiracy's questions, and forgot my own; sorry about that.

1) Are you having fun yet?
2) Chocolate or vanilla?
3) How many Mafia games have you played (here or elsewhere)?
4) Lynch all Liars?
5) Math or Sports?
6) Lynch all Lurkers?
7) What do

you

think of the RVS?

1) Yep.
2) Chocolate, always.
3) About 30 or so here; a handful on another site; none IRL.
4) Always.
5) Math, please.
6) Unless someone else scummier shows up; but voting lurkers is a viable pressure strategy, I've found.
7) I think I've made it clear I can't stand it; it's largely useless.

Now, on to wredfar: You tell us you haven't much to say; that I'm your top suspect; and that I'm wasting my time because you aren't lurking, when you clearly are.

Not sharing your insights with us is quite anti-town.

Did you and ConSpiracy cook up any strategies pre-game?

[Nobody Special]

@Max: Yes, that line was my oblique way of saying I find them both scummy, and they'll likely turn out to be scumbuddies.

[Nobody Special]

Did you and ConSpiracy cook up any strategies pre-game?

I have never started any game with any strategie in my mind.

You know that scum tend to make connections right?

I am not understanding what you mean by the last sentence. Can you clarify?

[Nobody Special]

Okay, I get it now.

However, my point is not necessarily to make a connection, but to scumhunt. I have two suspects who are each quite scumtastic, and since there's only two on the scumteam and no third parties, the connection is inevitable. But I'll refrain from referencing it if it makes you uncomfortable.

[Nobody Special]

Nobody Special hasn't done anything else after the random vote which I regard as scummy.

14 posts, as well as removing my RV and switching to vote my top suspect is 'not doing anything?' Oh, okay.

[Nobody Special]

Nobody Special hasn't done anything else after the random vote

,

which I regard as scummy.

Akira, my apologies. Above is the way I read it at first, now with bolded and inserted comma.

And again with the vegetables thing in regard to RVS. I may not like it, but I do it -- mostly to avoid scrutiny over avoiding it in the first place. This is the first time I've been called out for participating.

[Nobody Special]

I can see how jediknight looks less than town.

But I'm still quite comfortable lynching ConSpiracy.

And bacon needs to either admit to being scum or come up with some actual content.

@Everyone NOT voting ConSpiracy: Why not? Please try to convince me he's town (good luck with that).

[Nobody Special]

Well, do I really need to restate my case? (Hint: I will, if you want.)

Vote: ConSpiracy

[Nobody Special]

Well, do I really need to restate my case? (Hint: I will, if you want.)

Vote: ConSpiracy

So, nothing to say regarding jedi's flip? Even his L-1 vote?

You mean the fact that it was ConSpiracy who put jedi at L-1? Yeah.

...what about it?

[Nobody Special]

jediknight's vote put ConSpiracy at L-2. Is that what you're aiming at?

[Nobody Special]

NS, stop it. Just go back and look at when jedi voted for Con.

Okay, I'm looking at the post where jedi voted. And I see you calling him out on his timing shortly thereafter.

Please spell it out for me, using tiny, tiny words. I mean, we already know jedi is scum; what are you driving at here?

Much more damning, in my eyes, is where, an hour after jedi voted, wredfar drops in and says "oh look one more vote and he's toast" without, you know,

voting.

[Nobody Special]

See, your first mistake is thinking I know what I'm doing. I suck at this game. Srsly. (Ask anyone.)

Especially

as scum.


Hey, when I fail, I fail BIG.

Lesson learned: Don't not-mention scumpartner. Leads to disaster.

Some notes:

@ConSpiracy: Good job. I'm curious, seriously, how you latched onto me as scum. Was it just gut feeling, or ....? Good job.

@wredfar, bacon: Try not to lurk quite as much. As town, your opinion is crucial. And, bacon,

vote!

@Akira: Good catch on my RVS contradiction. Yes, I try very diligently to play as Townie as I can when I'm scum, but somehow it just doesn't happen. Must be a subconscious thing. Also, on your iso23: I seriously had no idea what you were on about (until you explained it), sorry.

@jediknight: I don't know whether you were scumlurking or just truly busy, but. It didn't work so well for you (or me, I guess).

@LordChronos: What can I say? You were so Town you had to be killed. Good job!

@Maxous: Good play. You were my next nightkill, btw.

@Trendall: Good play, as well. Very good POE analysis.

And thanks to Sotty for excellent moderation!

[Nobody Special]

I think lynching both scum on two consecutive days is a Perfect Town Win. (Not sure what sit meta is in that regard; just my opinion.)

[Nobody Special]

I'm okay with posting the QT if jedi is.

[Nobody Special]

http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/Wt7Dj9KJVEgC

Yeah.