Multiple Personality Mafia (Game Over)

[Scott Brosius]

This is not a time for compliments my good man, there are killers afoot. Normally on such a fine winter day I'd expect you to helping us looking for them but it appears my good lad... that you are in fact one of the scum?

Accusations without votations. Clearly scum.

Vote:Lateralus22

Hi Robo

[Scott Brosius]

So essentially, you threw out an NL to passively lurk, under the cover of "waiting to find a scum read"?

No, not at all, I did it because in previous threads I've been in I've had a tendency to lurk, and I certainly didn't want to be accused of doing that in this game. It appears to have shown that I'm in this game anyway, even if now many people suspect me.

You "certainly" don't want to be accused of doing that this game? Why are you insinuating that in this game its more important for you to not appear as if you are lurking?

Unvote
Vote: ShadoWolf

[Scott Brosius]

@Shado: We're doing this because we like to sign our posts. We're a hydra, remember? Also, I don't like that you're attacking our tone without really addressing the accusation aside from (basically) a "nope".

Curious as to why Shado's being jumped on, but no one seemed to bat an eye at Elli. Yes, Shado's reasoning for it was crap (so I completely understand the wagon on him), but a vote for NL is still bad. I'd expect at least

some

comments on Elli, but no one has brought it up yet. Odd.

FoS: Scott

- your thoughts on Elli and Fate, please?

~Pie

My vote for Shado isn't because of his NL vote. If you actually read my vote, instead of probably just looking at the VC, you would see this. Voting for NL is completely null, its the 5th page. So your attempt to point out a discrepancy is baseless (at least in terms of my vote).

Fate and Elli haven't done anything interesting to me.

[Scott Brosius]

Different alignment?

[Scott Brosius]

Keeping my eye on Scott. THB caught it too. His shado vote seems off (I think thats where he was going with it).

How is it off? He said he really didn't want to appear he was lurking in this game. That is massively scummy to me. You are buddying THB pretty hard. Noted.

Also noting that after Exe took over as lead wagon, Shado has gotten very quiet, as if not to arouse suspicion again.

I think Exe is a prime suspect for opportunistic scum to jump on his wagon. The case really made of nothing other than playstyle (unless someone can show me differently, but that's all I really see). I need an updated VC to see who is on this wagon and then I will delve further into this.

[Scott Brosius]

I didn't really find a specific question from you pie? Just give thoughts on Player X or anyone you mentioned earlier? Plz quote if I missed it.

How is it off? He said he really didn't want to appear he was lurking in this game.

It's now massively scummy to attempt to change my meta?

Also noting that after Exe took over as lead wagon, Shado has gotten very quiet, as if not to arouse suspicion again.

What the fuck. I went to bed, then I had college, then I came straight to this thread to post. I'm sorry if that constitutes "very quiet" to you. Sorry if this seems like an overreaction, but it's literally been about 17 hours since my last post, so you can't accuse me as being very quiet.

Funny thing I noticed in my Skimathon 2011:

Holy shit. I go to bed and there's now a whole new thread with 40 posts.

Vote: No Lynch

until I get some scumreads

.

However, I'm

not too sure on any of these reads

being concrete, as this is only D1.

Emphasis mine. Now, I'm not sure what you make of it, Shado, but this to me looks like, well, to be obvious, using scumreads as a reason and then dismissing them anyway. Just saying.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. I used lack of scumreads to place a NL vote, then I said that the scumreads I have are shaky because it's only D1. What point are you trying to make?

Well, what role has the most to gain by not seeming lurky? Obviously scum. Also I suppose things are moving quicker in this game than I am used to given that I don't play large games that often. So it seemed like you hadn't posted in awhile.

A few people are presenting a false dichotomy that today's lynch is me or shado. Just note that.

Curious who? (i.e. I'm too lazy to look for myself).

Self-admitted laziness. Helpful.

[Scott Brosius]

Self-admitted laziness. Helpful.

I no rite.

He said he really didn't want to appear he was lurking in this game. That is massively scummy to me.

aWhy?

Well, what role has the most to gain by not seeming lurky? Obviously scum.

[Scott Brosius]

Well until you start posting outside of poems, this is where my vote goes.

Unvote
Vote:Fate

[Scott Brosius]

[quote="ShadoWolf"

@Scott Brosius:

Much the same question that I've asked a few people now, can I have some scumreads, and maybe a defensible argument as to why you voted Fate.
[/quote]

Defensible? There is absolutely no content. There is posting but there is no content. You are still my second scumread but this poetry crap needs to be addressed now.

[Scott Brosius]

@Scott Brosius:

Much the same question that I've asked a few people now, can I have some scumreads, and maybe a defensible argument as to why you voted Fate.

Defensible? There is absolutely no content. There is posting but there is no content. You are still my second scumread but this poetry crap needs to be addressed now.

Fate is being Fate. Whether he posts in poetry is irrelevant. He never claimed it to be a post restriction.

Katsuki on the other hand, commented with "I hate you for this Parama". Seems like she was claiming a PR.

Also, those aren't our biggest leads. If you think people are posting, but not providing content, call them out for it, and vote them. It's called active lurking, and it's scummy...

I don't care if its Fate being Fate. It's scummy.

Also why in the world would you attempt to sniff out Katsuki (or whatever hydra it is) being a PR? What motive do you have to do that as town? That actually might be the scummiest thing I've seen all game.

[Scott Brosius]

Chill out. I took PR as power role not post restriction. My bad. Sniffing out power roles is an obvious scum-tell hence my post, now it can be ignored.

[Scott Brosius]

As for 111, whatever people do strange things at the beginning of games. Voting for NL is null to me as I mentioned earlier. I figured the poetry would stop. It hasn't

279 got cleared up as I misread PR as power role instead of post restriction.

[Scott Brosius]

Scott jumping onto us with such a quick vote is interesting and worth noting. I don't recall townscott being to votehappy.

Where did I jump on you?

[Scott Brosius]

your thoughts on Beefster-scum plz.

Haven't played with Beefster in awhile but he always seems prime for scum to attack for a D1 mislynch. Your discrepancy catch is a good one and Beefster is crawling up my list of scum. But I have bigger fish to fry at the moment.

[Scott Brosius]

your thoughts on Beefster-scum plz.

Haven't played with Beefster in awhile but he always seems prime for scum to attack for a D1 mislynch. Your discrepancy catch is a good one and Beefster is crawling up my list of scum. But I have bigger fish to fry at the moment.

Doesn't make him immune from being scum either.

Obviously not.

[Scott Brosius]

As for 111, whatever people do strange things at the beginning of games. Voting for NL is null to me as I mentioned earlier.

Then why did you vote me?

So essentially, you threw out an NL to passively lurk, under the cover of "waiting to find a scum read"?

No, not at all, I did it because in previous threads I've been in I've had a tendency to lurk, and I certainly didn't want to be accused of doing that in this game. It appears to have shown that I'm in this game anyway, even if now many people suspect me.

You "certainly" don't want to be accused of doing that this game? Why are you insinuating that in this game its more important for you to not appear as if you are lurking?

Unvote
Vote: ShadoWolf

If you took the time to read where I voted you, you would see.

Anyway, Fate is posting in other games, ignoring this one posting poetry etc.

Fate you have 24 hours to post to my satisfaction in this game (not poetry) before I dayvig you. Yes that is a claim.

[Scott Brosius]

Scum have day powers? Why do you know this?

[Scott Brosius]

and

Mafuyu's not paid enough attention in the pregame to note if any were dayvigs

(though Day Poisoner looks to be similar). If it is an autoclear, Mafuyu would be confused as to why he would do so, seeing as how the odds are technically unfavorable and the results wouldn't necessarily provide any correlations, what with Fate being Fate.

I know the front page has that role. You said the bolded above however. Which means you didn't read the front page, yet you knew about that scum role. I find that interesting.

[Scott Brosius]

Well I am shooting Fate if nothing changes. I will shoot who I feel is scummy. For you to say I'm not going to shoot Fate is delusional. Also you conveniently ignored this.

Scott jumping onto us with such a quick vote is interesting and worth noting. I don't recall townscott being to votehappy.

Where did I jump on you?

[Scott Brosius]

Fatescum will naturally resolve itself if scum.
Shooting fate now is rather anti-town, when you could shoot a main suspect.

How will it naturally resolve itself?

[Scott Brosius]

Fate has contributed exactly zero content and is throwing us, the town, off, long after it was confirmed there are no post restrictions. Even after threat of death, he is still refusing point blank to stop this annoying poetic fad and shows no sign of doing so, so he needs to die. If I wanted to read poetry, I'd look at Keats.

Shoot please.

Richard.

Look at this.

Lynch the VI.
Shoot the annoying person.

No real desire to kill actual scum here.

I'd like to know, if yall hate me so much, why is no one shooting me?

Because I am the one with the kill, and I don't think you are scum.

[Scott Brosius]

and

Mafuyu's not paid enough attention in the pregame to note if any were dayvigs

(though Day Poisoner looks to be similar). If it is an autoclear, Mafuyu would be confused as to why he would do so, seeing as how the odds are technically unfavorable and the results wouldn't necessarily provide any correlations, what with Fate being Fate.

I know the front page has that role. You said the bolded above however. Which means you didn't read the front page, yet you knew about that scum role. I find that interesting.

Pregame refers to the signup thread, where apparently Parama did a bit of clarifying.

Regardless, you were still aware of a scum day role and clueless about a town day role. That is suspicious to me.

I would like an updated vote count before I shoot.

[Scott Brosius]

I never really intended to shoot Fate. I was just seeing if he would bow down to my demands easily. I would actually be more suspicious if the poetry crap stopped. It's still annoying to read, but there seems to be some content.

Obviously a vig on the main wagon is a better idea as it provides info. I vigged ShadoWolf.

[Scott Brosius]

I asked Parama, I was instructed to PM.

[Scott Brosius]

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@Scott Brosius:

Dayvig is your second personality, right? Are you limited in terms of shots, when/how you can shoot, how does the role work exactly?

Richard.

I've been wondering when scum would not be able to control their curiosity about my role. I'm not answering any of these questions, and I really don't see a town POV wanting to find out.

I'm torn between Tuniogen and Mafuyu for my vote currently.

[Scott Brosius]

Why would I even announce that I had a killing power if I was scum? I would just shoot and play dumb.

[Scott Brosius]

^WIFOM. Not helpful

There's a difference between WIFOM and outright stupidity.

This

[Scott Brosius]

I'm wondering why you would make the illogical leap that curiosity = scum. You WILL answer those questions, because I don't see a town POV for wanting to withold the answers.

Richard.

It's essentially role fishing. Town doesn't need to know the extent of my power. Scum would like to know. If I still have more shots and I am suspecting only townspeople, it would obviously be advantageous for scum to keep me alive. Also it keeps scum in the dark for how long/when I can kill. Obviously there is a general idea, but there is no need to get specific.

LL: Why claim miller if the personality period just ended? Doesn't really make sense (for town or fakeclaim scum)

1. I told you guys Shado was town.

2.

Request Replacement

I feel like a douche for this, but it's the first game I've ever replaced out of so I'll get over it. I honestly can't keep up with this game so I'll nip it in the bud

before I screw the town out of a slot to read.

I've got finals this week and if I put this game off longer than tomorrow I'll end up 50 pages behind at the rate this is going.

I singled out THB first because I've played with both of them a ton and thought I'd be able to get a good read on them. Not sure if I'm confident the slot is scum or not, but I don't like the reactions to my points/questions. THB pretty much just dismissed them and made remarks to get out of it. Hopefully you guys will pay attention to them.

Sorry everyone. Good luck.

I've bolded the scum-slip. He's detached from the town and wants them to read his slot fairly. Then he goes on to give content that's completely ridiculous meta-based assertions even though he's replacing out. Scum.

3. I don't like the reasons and people on the Exe wagon. I need to talk to my other head, we've been missing each other, but I'm getting the distinct impression he's town and being driven very hard on by scum. so UNVOTE: Exe

4. Stop "clearing" Scott as town. He could just as easily be a Mafia Assassin going for town cred. He logic for shooting as soon as the game starts if he was Assassin then saying "oops" is WIFOM-y and stupid and doesn't make a lick of sense. Then he tries to call out Tuni for asking about the specifics of his role, which is quite frankly, stupid and a false scum-tell. FoS has turned into a Giant Quivering

PoS: Scott

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VOTE: ortiz1193

I'm voting the replacing slot. Bitch if you want, but it's a scum slot.

~Fugi (yes, I'm back)

1. Great.

2. This is a stretch to me. This reads as someone who has detached themselves from the game rather than scum. It's a really weak basis for a case.

3. Agree with this.

4. I'm not saying I should be cleared as town. But it would be a ridiculous gambit for me to claim Dayvig and open myself to suspicion rather than just sniping someone. As Kit nicely said there is a difference between WIFOM and pure stupidity. How does this not make sense? Given your opinion that I'm falsely accusing Tuni, I can assume you want my to reveal the mechanics of my power as well?

On a sidenote, I always love how people want to believe that scum use ridiculous gambits and strategies. In reality, they want to avoid attention (obviously a blanket statement but speaking in generalities)

[Scott Brosius]

4. I'm not saying I should be cleared as town. But it would be a ridiculous gambit for me to claim Dayvig and open myself to suspicion rather than just sniping someone. As Kit nicely said there is a difference between WIFOM and pure stupidity. How does this not make sense?

Given your opinion that I'm falsely accusing Tuni, I can assume you want my to reveal the mechanics of my power as well?

Ignored question to twoheadboy

My miller period has personality has passed, it was my first red personality.

[Scott Brosius]

Parama can you confirm that all day actions must be PMed?

Yep. If you're performing the action during the day, you PM it to me. If you're performing the action during the night, you PM it to me. If the action's not in my inbox, it's not happening.

[Scott Brosius]

Is there even a point to claiming in this kind of setup at L-1?

Not liking the speed of this wagon. Scum know which day(s) are advantageous for them to have night during (when their roles are more powerful). So I am suspicious how quickly this wagon has come together. I see the points on Beefster, but as I mentioned earlier, I've never seen him not act scummy (double negative yes).

[Scott Brosius]

I guess that's true, I'm just thinking scum is more coordinated with that than isolated town members. (response to Tuniogen)

[Scott Brosius]

I skimmed, but don't count on me being able to dayvig someone today unless the day goes quite long. Will do a real read later.

[Scott Brosius]

For my own organization...

1. LL gets a guilty on Rena when attempting to investigate Fate. So mod told you who you were redirected to? I've never heard of mod-informing redirection, just providing the result on the investigation with the redirection.

2. Rena JK Mafuyu. Mafuyu in one of my scum reads, but this doesn't really incriminate by itself.

3. TMH roleblocks Rena. There was no kill. Again this doesn't incriminate if it is true by itself.

4. Elli redirected Lady to Rena. This would make sense and I don't really see a scum reason to claim this.

5. Cupcake JK TMH. This is obviously the most incriminating.

Rena how long would we have to wait for a TMH vig kill? Generally don't need a specific day.

Vote:themanhimself

[Scott Brosius]

@ Scott: I was told by Parama that RENA was mafia. It didn't say "You got driven from Fate to Rena, Rena is guilty", it just said "Rena is Mafia" etc.

Hmm thats strange. I always thought that you just got a result without knowledge of being redirected. Not that I don't believe the claim.

@MOD When is PD10 starting?

I can shoot TMH as long as the day hasn't already switched. I forgot that since its a new day (Day 2 in game) I can dayvig again. If its PD10 already though, I cannot.

[Scott Brosius]

sent

[Scott Brosius]

2 weeks until I can shoot.

[Scott Brosius]

IF I TALK LIKE THIS AM I A OBV TOWN? COOL! LET ME TRY.

FROM PERSONALLY PLAYING MAFIA, I FIND THAT IF SOMEONE POSTS SAYING THAT THEY "FORGOT" TO SEND IN THEIR ACTION THEY ARE LIKELY SCUM, ESPECIALLY IF THEY WERE "SICK" WHILE THEIR PARTNER WAS BEING LYNCHED. HOWEVER AS I AM THE LIKELY VICTIM OF THIS BUT AM CLEARLY NOT SCUM (AT LEAST IN MY MIND), I FELT FURTHER CLARIFICATION WAS NEEDED. LOOK AT IT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AS BOTH A MAFIA AND TOWNIE, AND ASK YOURSELF WHAT YOU WOULD DO. I FIND THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO SCUM HUNT, BUT WHAT YOU FIND IS GLARINGLY OBVIOUS.

ALSO, I SEEM TO HAVE MISSED THE PART IN WHICH RENA WAS DEEMED TOWN. MAY I SEE IT?

The only game I've played with you, we had a player forget his action as tracker and he was town.

Unvote
Vote: Mongoose

[Scott Brosius]

yes mongoose scum. btw the reason for you being scum has nothing to do with forgetting your action.

Scott/Rena, what day does tmh scum die?

12ish irl days

[Scott Brosius]

Vote:mongoose

[Scott Brosius]

Hmmm we might have to kill KitoMo.

She really isn't going to let you coast Robo.

I'm trying to push this Mongoose mislynch through but we'll see if it works or not.

We have Exe tunneling on him at the very least.

Mongoose mislynch? Wait what?

[Scott Brosius]

I am confuzzled.

Anyway my third personality was Day Poisoner. I poisoned Robocopter. So if he isn't protected tonight he will die.

[Scott Brosius]

Miller isn't cool =(

He will die following night.

[Scott Brosius]

I didn't really look, it seems the word "Day" is not in my role PM, but the instructions say to poison someone during the day and if they aren't protected, they die.

As with yesterday, there is absolutely no point to me claiming this role as scum. You can call it WIFOM, but its pure stupidity to do that.

[Scott Brosius]

EBWOP: Oh, and if Robo dies from Poison, then obv we don't need to lynch him, and I would prefer we head for Mafuyu or Elli.

Robo will not be poisoned now.

[Scott Brosius]

V/LA until Thursday night

[Scott Brosius]

I think scum needed one more member (6/20) considering all the power town was undoubtedly going to have during the game. While more or less every scum was caught via actual scum hunting, every town player having power of some type at some point, just stacks the odds against the scum team.

Yeah this. Or if it was to be run again something like 0-500 for the random choices or even larger for VT. Even if most of the scum were obvcaught without powerroles, scum was going to be in a very tough spot anyway.

[Scott Brosius]

I was surprised I didn't get protected when I died. I was pretty much mod-confirmed. Probably better for the game that I did die anyway.