Open 274: Game Over!

[andrew94]

/confirm

[andrew94]

Mafia. It's on my wiki page FYI.

That's what I thought, I just wanted it in print.

I've developed a slight scum read on you based on your interest in the game so far, which has exceeded the standard confirmation post. You vetted the opening posts thoroughly, picking up on tiny typos and grammar errors, and seemed keen to engage in a pregame dialogue. Although this could just be your way, it proves you have invested a decent amount of time (compared to the average player) thinking about the game, which could be tied with your alignment.

Again, this is slight, but it is a good start. I've also picked up a meta-tell from one of the other confirmation posts too.

unfortunately you voted for aldusskkel before he even posted.

[andrew94]

bullshit
detective andrew strikes again

[andrew94]

Lady Hoopla, stop twisting and turning.

serious vote is serious

vote hoopla

[andrew94]

andrew94 uses alt f4

[andrew94]

andrew, you voted/attempted to vote Hoopla. Do you think her actions so far are more likely to come from scum or town? Why?

In targetting Hoopla, you are implicitly defending Alduskkel. Do you feel comfortable with this?

of course scum...
i already explained earlier.

how am i implicitly defending alduskkel??? for all i know, its a sick role play

[andrew94]

how is my case 'empty'. re-read the first 2 pages and tell me what happened (summary)

odd? odd is my middle name! (joke)

[andrew94]

how is my case wrong. hoopla provided a really crappy reasoning for her vote. when i pointed out her flaw, she decided to use some 'smart alec' way to reply, not directly answering my questions. this IS why i am voting her.

vote hoopla

[andrew94]

err . unlike you i dont always follow the wiki if thats where you found that. also , i assume hoopla knows you and your 'wiki' so she would do that 'according to fenchurch pro town action'.
finally, ur last sentence irks me as a 'back off'. why???
are you so sure hoopla is town aligned?


when this discussion is over, i would like to suggest to strategy

[andrew94]

pro-town = town but you say its a null read???
wth are you talking about

[andrew94]

It's not from any wiki, it just makes sense, and can be demonstrated in other games. And as I already said, I'm NOT sure Hoopla is town-aligned here, I consider it a null tell as to her alignment, because she has played before and knows what she's doing. But that doesn't stop it being pro-town: putting pressure on someone at the start of the game generates information which is helpful regardless of who does it. It's certainly not scummy, which is what you are trying to make out.

I'm not asking you to back off, I'm pointing out to others why I think you're scum.

i dont follow that logic. i think the act is not pro town, hoopla avoiding questions after being caught is definitely scummy and then your saying that hoopla is experienced etc, then wouldnt SHE KNOW your logic and purposely do it???

[andrew94]

@Fenchurch: null on Hoopla ATM.

Mod:

You never answered my question about how long a person can be inactive before they are prodded.

Vote: ConfidAnon

. You just sort of joked around without kicking up dust (for the record, Hoopla joked around and kicked up dust) which strikes me as active lurkerish.

Meh. Game hadn't started yet. But good way to avoid RVS.

I like where Fenchurch vs. andrew94 is going.

Vote: andrew94

i like where this fluff is going

[andrew94]

explain

[andrew94]

err

if so called strategy works, then there would never be a mislynch.the 'value' of putting someone under pressure could and would backfire. how would you know each individuals reaction to pressure.

WHY are you defending hoppla.
whats defeatism

@confi

@ConfidAnon: reasons?

Slight town on andrew94 atm. His post #22 shows that he is paying attention to the game which is pro-Town.

Fenchurch's case is applying a double standard. andrew94 is scummy for having a crap case, but Hoopla is not scummy for it? All cases are kind of crappy currently.

The general vibe I got from his reaction to Stefunny's questioning. Rubs me the wrong way.

master confidadon sir, but i am pretty sure stefunny did not question me

[andrew94]

im also saying that hoopla knows you so well that she could purposely do that 'pro town action' for you to label pro town

[andrew94]

yes confidanon is suspicious.
it would be foolish to let da mafia godfather a free pass
you seem pro town now
fenchurch is not for defending you like your her sister ==
and... wanna hear my strategy.

[andrew94]

how are u confused

[andrew94]

unvote

[andrew94]

if all mafia games follow a pattern . then only one faction would ever win.

@fenchurch, its my obvservation, you said it was weird earlier, now its scummy ? = =

vote confid

[andrew94]

Ca posted fluff at the start.voted me with crap reasoning 'fenchurch vs andrew' then misrep'ed me.
y not L1. nobody will get away with a 'oh i forgot it was L1 hammer'

[andrew94]

lol! suggesting that you are in scum in an uncompleted game

[andrew94]

ca is L1 now..

[andrew94]

i dont get what hoopla just said.

pregame discussion is OK. but making BS up there is not (i think). then someone claiming that its confusing is understandable.

[andrew94]

@stefunny how is it omgus. he had crap ass reasoning. all he said was ' i like the fenchurch vs andrew' vote andrew (asterisk)
and hoopla well, i just found a better suspect (ca)



@fenchurch, my strategy is the backup claiming. theres a 50% CHANCE Hes useless. and if he actually backs the PR up (its a 7 player game, max 3 days?, pretty much useless) might as well get a confirmed townie out of it. +if 2morrow is LYLO, claims + cc's will be untrustable.

[andrew94]

^ dude thats what i said.
only im not an essay writer

[andrew94]

why are you hoping hes the back-up?

[andrew94]

onyl stefunny and ca havengt posted yet

[andrew94]

I guess I'm not sure what my opinion is of back up claiming. I have not played in a game with back ups before so I'm not sure what people generally do when back ups are playing. Are you asking for the back ups to step forward? How would that be a benefit to town?

And I'd like to comment on the "clarifying" debate. I don't think scum would be going above and beyond to clarify. They'd rather confuse, don't you think? So how is clarifying, or taking the time to clarify automatically anti-town?

in this game there is a pr (doc/cop) and a backup (nurse/deputy)
since theres only a 50% chance that the backup will actually be useful (i.e backup the pr when the pr dies).
then if we mislynch today , 2morrow is lylo, which means there will be cc's.
if backup claims today = confirmed townie


ask whoever to explain it. i suck at vocab

[andrew94]

i dont want to be the 'cannon over the horse' (chinese chess move)
but i thought it was pretty obvious that you were the backup.

not the backup

[andrew94]

how would it be amazing...

its mylo if we fail today

[andrew94]

ca is not coming back?
lynch???

[andrew94]

...
more votes on ca

[andrew94]

how did you know empking = dmg

[andrew94]

....
why alt then

[andrew94]

but empking is a good player right.. (to have an alt)
so why would he be confused

[andrew94]

u missed my post

[andrew94]

no. empking i meant that you are known aka pro aka good player aka WILL NOT BE CONFUSED BY HOOPLA

[andrew94]

if he gets replaced, his replacee gets a free pass,,,

[andrew94]

fritzler, i believe i started the bangwagon mate..

[andrew94]

@Andrew-I scanned. So...........ignore you.

ok i was the second, but then hoopla left

[andrew94]

getting on a plane. 13 hours. sleeping after. might have delay flight.

[andrew94]

my points are ---> apparently you have been saying that dmg is playing the 'newb' card early with poor english etc. but he is empking after all (who is pro right?)
so yea.

i also really think CA slot is scum, the person who replaced in hasnt done much but place alduskel in L1.

whens the deadline?

[andrew94]

i said 'CA slot'

[andrew94]

fenchurch, you forgot to mention that the backup claiming today will rule out cc's the next day. and i suggested the plan because it is most likely that we will mislynch on day1.
how have i barely interactefr with dmg?
i think fritz>dmg>ald

[andrew94]

however, I find it interesting Ald didn't claim at L-1.

Town, if I am lynched, and when I turn up innocent, look to see if Fenchurch could have jumped off his Ald scumbuddy wagon (which I think there is a small chance of, but possible).

rolefishing???

@fenchurch i said that it would be mylo if the doc protected stefunny, but i realised that later...

fritz the rolefishing > fenchurch the hopper > dmg

[andrew94]

firstly, i did some reads at the end of day 1 but the night took 6 days. so yea...

but im pretty sure fritzler is scum

[andrew94]

yea hoopla, im in a lot of games and 6 days is long ass to forget some 'deeper' reasoning

basic reasoning is: read my iso and you will find out

[andrew94]

enough is enough

vote fritzler

[andrew94]

hoopla we dont have 3 scum in this game.
@ald im confident of my vote

@empking post with one account only pls

[andrew94]

yea, but theres still no 3 scum ,so if you remove that, your % wont add up to 100%

[andrew94]

so you think fritz is town???

[andrew94]

i did talk about empking???

read my iso again.

[andrew94]

no. empking i meant that you are known aka pro aka good player aka WILL NOT BE CONFUSED BY HOOPLA

[andrew94]

no. empking i meant that you are known aka pro aka good player aka WILL NOT BE CONFUSED BY HOOPLA

this was an 'effort'

[andrew94]

im confident fritz is scum, and one of you/empking is his partners

[andrew94]

im confident fritz is scum, and one of you/empking is his partners

Who is likelier? I want to see you argue from a scumpairing point of view.

well more likely you but im not discounting empking becos crap happens sometimes.
you were also more nervous when ca was gonna get replaced/ lynched and u said you would find a replacement?

so yea

[andrew94]

Please prod the mod too

[andrew94]

o ffs, its me or fritzler since no1 quick hammer

[andrew94]

read iso for why fritzler is scum.
nobody quickhammered fritzler.
fristzler is scared to vote me cos 'omgus' , he needs someone (hoopla) to vote

[andrew94]

wth ald, im not doing all the donkey work for you

[andrew94]

i said its either me whos scum or you that is scum because no1 quick hammered

[andrew94]

automatically vote fritzler please

[andrew94]

^ that was what i said

[andrew94]

bump!

[andrew94]

DAM!

[andrew94]

nah hoopla was my buddy

[andrew94]

i like the monologue of the dead QT = =