Mini 1135: Deadmines - DONE. PRAISE AZEROTH.

[Antihero]

/confirm

[Antihero]

Is it a site wide law that reck and I must disagree on most things?

Bub is scum with Antihero, who is town.

^This, except for the obvious contradiction.

VOTE: bub

You put a non-random vote down less than an hour into day 1 in a day start game? What reasoning is it possible to have? Moreover, what reasoning is it possible to have and not want to share with town? Not sharing the reasoning is at least anti-town.

Stop falling for it, smargaret.

[Antihero]

Falling for what, pray tell?

*waves hands*
Tell you when the time is right, of course.

^

3rd party lyncher

anti town

FTFY

[Antihero]

Kairyuu, how can you put a non-random vote on somebody in a game that just got out of confirmation?

The timing of this question = massive phail

[Antihero]

I'm not familar with this theme, reck. What is a "ret"? Would you expect it to be a scum role?

Also, I propose a break in the popcorn. Enigma is next. I'll go after him (there's a good reason I'll share after he claims).

[Antihero]

^lame

[Antihero]

Antihero- 1) You can't propose a break and then tell someone to claim next. 2) You are not in charge of who claims. The last claimer (aka Reck) is. Currently it is Bub's turn and then whoever Bub wants.

You didn't see that I have a really good reason, that if shared now will completely subvert the point of Enigma claiming now?

[Antihero]

Hey reck/starbuck, how many impossible race/class combinations could Enigma have "joked" about?

[Antihero]

Is there something about the concept of a gnome paladin that's particularly funny?

[Antihero]

I promise this will all make sense eventually, BTW.

[Antihero]

Agreed. Bub, do you understand how massclaim works?

Yes, I do.

What makes you think that Sathoris is town?

*palm*

[Antihero]

Yeah, you kind of wasted that too since I planned on hammering Enigma anyway at the end of my line of flavor questioning... >_>

[Antihero]

/facepalm @ last post

[Antihero]

Alright, I finally have some time to sit down and read this game.

VOTE: Parama don't like the rushed voting.

This vote = aweful;
Can you please be more specific in what you're referring to?

Dear everyone who's not voting dana,

Please read dana's ISO posts 2 and 3.

VOTE: danakillsu

Hm, there's not much else to look at. Guess I could try a scumspectrum?

[Town]
Sathoris
Kairyuu
xRECKONERx
Parama
Starbuck
smargaret
[Null]
Maemuki
Bub Bidderskins
ender241
danakillsu
[Scum]

For Town, the order doesn't matter so much. For Null-Scum, it does.

[Antihero]

Personally, my problem with dana was that post 148 reads as a crappy soft attack on Kairyuu. Now that people are coming out with kind of crappy "OMG moar kontent, plz" generalizations and these bizarre accusations about Bub, I have a few qualms about my vote.

I don't really know why I'm scum, but whatever, Anti. Aside from that, I love these spectrums since it makes it harder to backtrack.

Dana, if you please would try to do something other than diverting our attention to Bub, it would be highly appreciated. I'm getting more and more willing to lynch you, but I want some other information first.

Did I say you were scum? No, I didn't. You're a solid null. Would you like to debate me as to why you deserve that read?

The misrep of dana plus the hemming and hawing on a vote plus the lack of meaningful commentary on anyone besides dana

is

getting you off to a good start on a scumread.

[Antihero]

ender, I know you're posting in other games...

Yet to vote (4):

Danakillsu, Maemuki, Bubbiddrskns

, Sathoris

Null-scum list in

bold

.

Oh look, I only had to use 1 tag.

[Antihero]

The similarity in color schemes between my avatar and reck's makes my eyes hurt. >_<

[Antihero]

This is the second time this game you've made a mistake like that. First with assuming Mae wasn't voting for Enigma and now assuming that I was voting for Bub.

You're focused on the mistake and missing the part where Mae is kind of scummy.

[Antihero]

So is parama, btw

[Antihero]

Antihero is wrong, but still very town.

If you want to believe Mae is null, fine, but I don't see how anybody can justify a townread on her. Just sayin'.

I don't really feel like giving my read on every single player, and I don't even think that's necessary, but I will say this: I think I have a better scum candidate than Bub or myself.

MAEMUKI:

YESTERDAY:
RV'd Enigma. Enigma slipped. Maemuki stayed on him because of his slip. She contributed nothing to the discussion.
TODAY:
Parroted me about yesterday. Said she'd "let me post some content" as if it were her decision to make. Tried to parrot everyone about me "not posting content" while at the same time misrepping me. Something major changed between yesterday and today. Perhaps it was not having an easy scumbuddy to bus hard?

Vote: Maemuki

Add the fact that Maemuki hasn't exactly been the content factory herself (hypocrisy, anyone), and I actually don't think this is a bad analysis.

But, dana, I would like to see what your read on everyone is (even if it is only a couple sentences).

[Antihero]

Leaning Scum:
xRECK
Starbuck

lol?

Null:
Bub
Parama
Antihero
Ender
Smargaret

That's the majority of the playerlist...

Leaning

town:
Kairyuu

Sathoris

lol

Town:
Me

LOL

That's all you're getting. I'm not giving scum advice on how to play to influence my vote.

So...many...lulz....

Yeah, you are scum. Now, are you distancing from Mae or did you hide your buddy in the Null list?

[Antihero]

Dear ender and Mae,

Now that dana has removed all doubt that he's scum with his last post, I will need one of the following from each of you in your next post:

• A vote for dana
  
• A very good reason why dana isn't scum, and who we should lynch instead
  
• A scum confession and GG

-AH

[Antihero]

Dear ender and Mae,

Now that dana has removed all doubt that he's scum with his last post, I will need one of the following from each of you in your next post:

• A vote for dana
  
• A very good reason why dana isn't scum, and who we should lynch instead
  
• A scum confession and GG

-AH

Despite YOUR response to my post being pretty much just "lol", you have no idea how funny

I

find this.
But whatever, I joined this game as a gesture of good will to the mods of Mafiascum in general (for Mafia Month), so you can go ahead and just randomly lynch me if you want. In fact, it's okay to lynch me because I'm a VT and it'll give you some info (I hope).

CLAIM: Human Hunter (VT)

Wait a second, wasn't Batt a hunter?

Alright, I'll humor you and elaborate on the "lol."

Leaning Scum:
xRECK
Starbuck

reck, scum? There's nothing besides "lol" that is appropriate for that.

Null:
Bub
Parama
Antihero
Ender
Smargaret

Already said before you lumped pretty much everyone in this list. It's worse that you didn't even say that order matters.

Leaning town:
Kairyuu
Sathoris

Kairyuu is a townish player who's pushing Bub. Of course you can't step on his toes, so he goes on the "leaning town."
And the guy who gets a cop clear only gets to the "leaning town" list.

That's all you're getting. I'm not giving scum advice on how to play to influence my vote.

I think this is the first time I've seen someone try to rationalize not giving reads. Valiant attempt, but still failed.

[Antihero]

unvote, vote: DKU

quickhammer up in this place

What the fuck, Parama?!?

FAKERAGE SENSES TINGLING!

[Antihero]

VOTE: Danakillsu i also noticed he did not vote for Enigma part 1.

He replaced in 3 hours before the hammer, n00b.

[Antihero]

OK, first off, this gem really pissed me off, and I've had to wait all night to call Starbuck on it.

Antihero

This is the second time this game you've made a mistake like that. First with assuming Mae wasn't voting for Enigma and now assuming that I was voting for Bub.

You're focused on the mistake and missing the part where Mae is kind of scummy.

On my scale, she falls in the null.

What about her is scummy? Got a case? Other than parroting dana?

The misrep of dana plus the hemming and hawing on a vote plus the lack of meaningful commentary on anyone besides dana is getting you off to a good start on a scumread.

So, did you just not read the thread, or did you ask this question to make me look scummy?

[Antihero]

I'm actually feeling a Maescum a lot more than Starbuckscum.

[Antihero]

Wait a sec. You are a doc, or you got a one-shot doc both nights?

[Antihero]

BTW, I'm eagerly awaiting the tracker results, and today WILL NOT END WITHOUT THEM.

[Antihero]

I'm a doctor, as you could see by the Undead Priest part. I CAN protect myself, but I can't protect the same person for two nights in a row.

...

Doesn't mesh up with mechanics of this game...

VOTE: Maemuki

[Antihero]

Everyone seems to be a gifter here.

OK, fine, there's a way to settle it.

If anyone got any kind of protective gift at all during this game, claim it now.

UNVOTE: in the meantime, I guess

[Antihero]

BTW, starbuck, how does a mae vote immediately follow from a "no result"?

[Antihero]

@Parama: So . . . tracker result will be coming from who? You're a 2/night inventor?

...where did this line of logic even start?

[Antihero]

@Antihero: Parama stated that he KNEW that there was a tracker result coming, but yet he claimed to have given me the kill I used on Bub. Hence, logical progression.

Where did he do this?

[Antihero]

The lack of a tracker claim displeases me.

The only person who hasn't posted is ender. If the tracker gifter seriously gave it to him, I will rage.

[Antihero]

However:

I think it's pretty clear that one of Kairyuu/Starbuck needs to get lynched today. Unless somebody else can counterclaim another claimed race/class combo in the game, I don't see any way the mod would put two of the same in the game. Or, we can lynch freely today, and I'll vig one of Kairyuu/Starbuck tonight randomly.

PREDIT: Mandie, we're talking about two OF THE SAME RACE

AND

CLASS. Nelf Hunter & Human Hunter is buyable.

Honestly, it's going to take a lot of convincing for me to think Kairyuu is scum just based on the vig kill. If Kairyuu was scum and got a 1 shot vig, I think he would've tried to pull some "lol, I knew bub was going to get lynched today, so I killed someone else."

That said, aside from the smarge+Kair weaksauce, I really don't have a problem with starbuck's play. That "no result" claim is pretty disappointing though, especially since I'm kind of having a hard time convincing myself scum would block starbuck.

[Antihero]

...that sounds like a "no result" was caused by the "block."

How could inhim tell you that kind of thing, anyway?

[Antihero]

How could inhim tell you that kind of thing, anyway?

Flavor text was used and was rather vague as to what the result was (no result or block). So I asked for a better explanation and found out that I was blocked.

... OK.

Why would scumKair CC a vanilla townie claim?

[Antihero]

How could inhim tell you that kind of thing, anyway?

Flavor text was used and was rather vague as to what the result was (no result or block). So I asked for a better explanation and found out that I was blocked.

... OK.

Why would scumKair CC a vanilla townie claim?

For a quick/easy lynch.

Look at the last 2 days.

lol, a 1 for 1 trade of a nonsuspected mafia and VT.

Nah, not buying it.

VOTE: Starbuck

[Antihero]

Dear whoever got Parama's bullet,

Every day ender lives, a fairy dies. Seriously.

That pathetic waste of a playerslot has been posting elsewhere. I really don't care if Parama hurt his feelings at this point. He's had ample chance to post, but he's choosing not to, because he knows he's hosed.

Thanks a million in advanced,

-AH

[Antihero]

Oh, it was only 1 shot bullet gift?

weak

[Antihero]

I'm not saying whether it was one-shot or not.
I'm saying I didn't give a bullet tonight.

What?

Even weaker.

[Antihero]

Starbuck will flip town as a Blood Elf Paladin.

Good job in handing this game to the scum, fellow townies.

Oh please, stop with the drama. Even if you are a mislynch it's still probably 7-2 and the list of possible scum is narrow at this point.

[Antihero]

Oh, wait, inhim's OP is wrong. It's 9 alive now, so it'll probably be 6-2 tonight. Still...

[Antihero]

This situation is excruciating because neither starbuck nor kairyuu are scummy (they're actually both pretty townish). The only thing going against starbuck is the sequence of the claims.

If inhim put in a repeat, I will rage.

[Antihero]

/exactlymypoint

Scum. just. don't. flavor. CC. a. VT. claim. while. not. in. LYLO. period.

[Antihero]

Hey smarge, starbuck gave her ability the name "Arcane intellect".

Did your tracker come with a name like that?

[Antihero]

What?

No, what is it.

P.Edit - Yeah, I kind of do too.

[Antihero]

So this gifter gives 1 shot tracker to marge and then disappears? This looks fishy.

[Antihero]

Also, we're not questioning the authenticity of Starbuck's claim (parama got it too, remember?).

[Antihero]

I'm kind of in favor of the tracker gifter (if there is one) claiming now.

People who it could be :

xRECKONERx

wasn't part of the fullclaim

Parama

nah

Antihero

not I

Kairyuu

VT claim

ender241

probably scum

Starbuck

VT claim

Maemuki

doc claim

smargaret

person "receiving gift"

Sathoris

not part of claim

And that's...everyone.

[Antihero]

I'll answer the question tomorrow after I have a chance to confirm with inHim if it violates the rule. I think I managed to make my answer pretty clear, though. What good does it do to know the answer in twilight anyway?

If starbuck claimed her ability and didn't get modkilled or warned, why are you hesitant to share?

Are you asking inhim for a fakeclaim?

[Antihero]

I thought it came from Parama. Actually, I'd kind of like for Parama to claim - tomorrow, not during twilight - who he's given what.

Well, obviously not.

[Antihero]

Fine. But if this gets me modkilled, someone go after Antihero.

There was no power attached to my track.

Why are you doubting it, anyway? If I didn't legitimately receive it, how would I know that Kairyuu went nowhere?

OK, if that gets you modkilled, I will eat a gigantic bowl of my own feces.

I'm not doubting you had a 1 shot track. I'm doubting you're town.

[Antihero]

Agreed. Bub, do you understand how massclaim works?

^Doesn't seem like a town tracker with results to share. Your result came on the second post (and without a Kairyuu claim in between).

And parama already claimed the one shot cop gift, so you can't say "how did I make up the gifter part, then?"

[Antihero]

Yes, because "Hai guyz, I has X power and Y is clear!!!" works out so well for town.

How does it not?

/yawn

Thread. Lock. Please.

*wallop*

Did you get an ability name w/ your kill?

[Antihero]

Back from V/LA, though it looks like I didn't miss much.

Yeah, I'm the cop gifter. Gnome mage.

[Antihero]

Shall I?

no

[Antihero]

I will.

VOTE: Kairyuu

[Antihero]

oh, ender

was

the scumkill.

They must have thought he was the tracker-gifter.

Starbuck was blocked. Scum probably has a roleblocker.

[Antihero]

smarge is pretty much confirmed scum at this point, too, BTW.

[Antihero]

VOTE: smargaret

Sathoris needs to get his ass in here. No more cruising by on the cop clear, it makes me nervous.

[Antihero]

Since when was a cop investigation the absolute last word on anything?

[Antihero]

And because, for confirmed town, Sathoris hasn't been participating this whole time.

[Antihero]

Oh, yes, because a cop gifter makes perfect sense as scum...

[Antihero]

Yes, I did. Gnome mage. My ability is called "Arcane Intellect"

[Antihero]

Do you think someone else is the cop gifter? People have had ample time to claim that.

[Antihero]

Wait a second, I gave you the investigation two nights ago. AND I gave parama an investigation. PLUS the cop gifts to Starbuck and Kairyuu. WTF are you questioning here? Do you REALLY think I could be scum?

Also, if someone wants to CC, go right on ahead. Good luck knowing who actually got the cop investigation last night, though.

EDIT: LOLWAT, YOU GOT THE FUCKING ABILITY! HOW DO YOU THINK THERE'S NO COP GIFTER.

[Antihero]

*looks at Kairyuu confirming my vig gift*

Also, I was blocked last night. Reck, are YOU claiming blocked last night?

You are continuing to ignore the part where I thought the random gifts were a mechanic of the game itself.

PS, yes, I was blocked last night. You really want to go into a 1v1 with me? Then let's dance.

I suggest you abandon this incredibly stupid belief. If not anything because of the fact you got the think TWICE in a row (some luck).

Also, Parama needs to claim how he knows he got blocked last night.

[Antihero]

Right after lynch scene, mod PMed me that my action "missed" due to counterspell. I submit my action before lynch is reached, and the ability is given to the player, usable on the same night.

lolwat? So your action is actualy a DAY action and you got dayblocked?

Fullclaim + actions please.

[Antihero]

Quite honestly, reck is cleared by, if nothing else, the fact that he used his "sap" ability day 1.

There's no way you'll convince me scum wouldn't hang onto that until the endgame.

For me, I have to submit my giftee the PREVIOUS NIGHT (with the exception of Day 1, of course, because there was no night zero; that one I DID submit before the lynch scene was posted, but that was the only one).

Why would you give the bg to sathoris, who's pretty much done all of jack and shit this game?

And sathoris, I'm just under the assumption you'll pipe up if you didn't really get a bg.

[Antihero]

/not scum

[Antihero]

Yeah, Parama gave me tracker. I tracked Sathoris (dont' yell at me). The reason I did it was because all three of you seem to have something ironclad going for you. Parama has the tracker gift. Reck has the use of the "sap" power (which I STILL am not seeing him blowing on D1 as scum), and Sathoris had the cop clear. To me, the cop clear was the flimsiest of the three, so I tracked Sathoris.

[Antihero]

PS, I didn't get any gifts last night. So it was one of you two.

Yeah, I must have gotten blocked, because a) I got no result for Sathoris and b) you should have gotten gifted.

[Antihero]

^If that's true, how did he know who got what BEFORE they revealed the power themselves?

[Antihero]

He knew I got the tracker before I said so.

He also gave Sathoris the BG which sathoris could have confirmed, but he didn't... >_>

[Antihero]

If that's true then both me and Parama are ability confirmed and Antihero is confirmed for not hammering and I'm not completely at a loss.

Yeah, now you know my dilemma.

[Antihero]

Inherantly, reck's abilities are more self-serving, and, to me, more likely to be seen in scum.

Who did you use your 1-shot kill on again, reck?

Maybe scum had an ability which told them which abilities were being given out and to whom?

I thought we were looking for a roleblocker here. *headdesk*

[Antihero]

Wait no
It doesn't matter
I got a fucking guilty on him

Yeah, well, sorry I can't just take you at your word. I have trust issues.

[Antihero]

Reck, are you sure you didn't get anything last night?

[Antihero]

^So, the theory is that reck is really a roleblocker with a "sap" power and reck just went "herp derp, I don't see any use for this anymore" and wasted it day 1.

But a scumrole that doles out vig shots and tracker? ?????????????

[Antihero]

Also, the missing scumkill? Yeah, that's about the same time you magically happened to give out a vig shot.

That was the day you claimed to dodge the scumkill......
....
....

[Antihero]

You two DO realize the clusterf*ck I have to deal with, right?

Parama, where did you say Reck's claim wasn't meshing up? I'm going back and I don't see them (maybe that's because I have brain fog right now).

I'll be dropping the hammer tomorrow. You two say whatever you want to say.

Also, look in the first post. It mentions some "Edwin van Cleef" Who is that? You think that might be a third party here and that's who town needs to lynch to win?

[Antihero]

Reck claims action on Sathoris
Reck claims all actions used up
Fullclaim - claims an extra action but NOT the one he claimed to use on Sathoris

In other news, I just realized something that might make things make more sense... we don't know the specific powers of the Defias, do we? They may all have the same rolename, but that has NO indication of their abilities - both Defias flips have been flavorname and alignment only. Smargaret could've easily been the roleblocker, but we'd have no way of knowing it. That completely breaks Reck's argument for confirmed town status.
Not like it matters to me but at least things make more sense now.

Well, no, since I think I was RBed last night (inhim still has to answer my question though).

Reck, did your kill ever end up getting used?

[Antihero]

Going for

Parama

:

• Since Parama gifted smarge, he obviously wasn't prohibited from gifting scum. So, if he was scum, why wouldn't he just gift smarge the kill instead of giving it to Kairyuu. Either Parama is extremely arrogant (guess I'm not entirely ruling that out), or he's not scum.

Hm, I thought this list would be longer.

I'd still kind of like to know fully how his role works. To my knowledge he has 3 abilities (vig, tracker, and bg gifts). They're all submitted during the day (?????), but he got roleblocked once (??????) (this was when reck also claimed the roleblocked). Now, what's up with the distribution of actions? Do you get to gift each thing an X number of times, or can you not gift the same thing on consecutive nights, or what.......

[Antihero]

Now, going for Reck:

• Say what you want about bussing, but if I get an extra vote power as scum, I'm keeping it to LYLO. I find it hard to believe that a player like reck would go "herp derp, no use for this" and blow it on Day 1 (no one really cares what happened D1 later on, anyway; it's not prime bussing time).

Going against reck:

• Lying about actions for no apparent pro-town reason and apparently not being able to keep track of actions. This one is kind of a big deal to me.

[Antihero]

Ugh, everytime I talk myself into a reck hammer, that sap power argument nags at me.

Parama, you got blocked Day 3? A scum day-roleblocker? How does that work?

reck, anything else you want to say? I'm probably going to hammer you next post.

[Antihero]

I dunno how it works. I guess it could've been submitted like my actions? Seems odd though.

Yeah, well given that the other roleblocks were at night, it seems like BS.

[Antihero]

But why would Parama lie about being roleblocked? What does he have to gain?

[Antihero]

I dunno how it works. I guess it could've been submitted like my actions? Seems odd though.

Yeah, well given that the other roleblocks were at night, it seems like BS.

*headdesk*
What I mean is, it's submitted prior to a lynch, but affects all night actions of the player targeted. AND YES, MY ACTION IS A NIGHT ACTION YOU TARDS.

Yes, there's a word for night actions submitted during the day.

They're called DAY ACTIONS.

[Antihero]

Right after lynch scene

, mod PMed me that my action "missed" due to counterspell. I submit my action before lynch is reached, and the ability is given to the player, usable on the same night.

This still implies that either a) the RBer had to have been online during the lynch scene AND not consulted his partner or b) the block is also "submit before lynch." Neither of which I find likely.

So, now I've kind of talked myself into a Parama hammer. Only thing here is, what exactly is this scum mechanism? There's nothing to Parama from gifting buddies (also seems broken), so why would Parama continue to shell out stuff to townies?

I need to go look at what Enigma said about reck D1. I remember it as maybe coming off as distancing, but I'd have to look again.

[Antihero]

Reck: OK, well you're under the assumption that I believe in the "roll for loot" theory, and I don't because why would I have this gifter ability and then there be some random, hidden mechanic of random people getting random things? Nah.

Parama was calling Reck confirmed on D2; the way I see it, scumParama would have gone after Reck a lot earlier (and a hell of a lot earlier than he would have gone after ENDER, lol). Reck, on the other hand, was keeping his options open (like me yesterday).

Alright, this game has to end (I'm probably going to end up making the wrong decision anyway, so I might as well not waste anymore time on this). One more post from you two, and the hammer is coming down (for real this time).

[Antihero]

Gah, that ender kill is really bizarre. There has to be some kind of significance surrounding that. What were scum gunning for there? They chose to forgo a kill on the claimed doc for frickin' ender? Something in my gut says they were gunning for the tracker gifter and they narrowed it down to ender and Parama (like I did in the list I posted that day). Did they figure Parama was more likely to draw the doc?

That Parama block thing is still nagging at me. I was alerted of my tracker ability at the beginning of the night, so apparently, that resolves quickly. How does that get blocked? I guess the resolution of the scum roleblock is unknown, so I can't really worry about that....

Parama also used the cop I gave him D1 to confirm one of the people he thought was scum. He could have said that about one of his townreads, or run a gambit and "confirmed" one of his buddies. Really, at this point, I'm seeing that almost none of Parama's actions this game are consistant with him being scum. On the other hand, reck planned to use his action on smargaret and claimed no result.

Enigma stuff: I see Reck was trying to line up Sathoris lynch after Enigma lynch (scumParama could've ridden that train, but derailed it instead).

Read smargaret ISO 44. Now, if that was the only post I saw, I would guess reck was the scumbuddy who marge needed to save her.

I'm kinda ready to drop the hammer now, but I'll let both of you make 1 more post.

[Antihero]

OK.

VOTE: xRECKONERx

Well played Parama, good game. If you're scum, I'm nominating you for a scummy, because (in terms of gameplay) you're the last person I would guess was scum.

[Antihero]

Yeah, well if you're really scum, I hate you.

[Antihero]

At this point, the only thing we can do is wait for inhim.

Watch. I probably got recruited into the scum group without my knowledge last night.

[Antihero]

That is actually probably not a bad idea.

[Antihero]

I can't vengekill. I have no more JOAT abilities yet...

...or do I...

MUAHAHAHAHA

UNLYNCHABLE, MOTHERFUCKERS

VOTE: PARAMA

AFTER THE VOTECOUNT
FULL STEAM AHEAD

If you're serious, I will slap inhim. With a barrel full of dead fish.

[Antihero]

Ugh, this is excruciating.

After this is over, I'm beating inhim with a barrel of dead fish regardless of the setup.

[Antihero]

Wow, that was surprising.

Good game, everyone.

[Antihero]

The ender kill was us trying to hit the cop-giver-outer, and we had it narrowed down to ender/Antihero... but we thought we could push a mislynch on Anithero, so we shot ender instead.

You know, I see that in the scum QT a lot after the game, and it always really pisses me off (probably because they sometimes succeed).

#1) There were WAY too many confirmable town roles in this setup. Parama & Antihero could confirm themselves quite easily, not to mention the fact that with each investigation/tracker they gave out, we had a significantly higher chance of being found out as well.

Hm. I wonder how well an SK cop-gifter would work... [/modmeta]

[Antihero]

1. Sathoris died. Since he was town, he probably wasn't lying about ardent defender. This means that it was used up earlier in the game. The only Nights with missing kills were N2 when I shot Bub and Reck claimed to have dodged a kill and N3 when Reck claimed to have shot at me and gotten blocked. Based on this, Reck was 100% confirmed to have been caught in a lie, and thus 100% confirmed scum.

Yes. But...

Everyone seems to be a gifter here.

OK, fine, there's a way to settle it.

If anyone got any kind of protective gift at all during this game, claim it now.

UNVOTE: in the meantime, I guess

I have a 1 shot ardent defender that stops any kill attempt on me. I was hoping to be targeted on N1, hence my statements against mass claiming on D1. There is nothing in my role PM about informing me if I was targeted though.

From this, I wasn't completely clear on how the ability worked (passive vs. commuter type power). So it ended up piled onto the mountain of WIFOM I was already standing on.