There Will Be Bloodshed (Game Over)

[Parama]

diddin is scum #3.

[Calcifer]

You never explain anything. All of your votes seem completely random, you don't explain why your suspicions are dropped, you don't give any hint that you're going to change votes. The only time you comment on big wagons when you're voting on them, otherwise they are ignored. When you are pressured, you self destruct, call the people pushing you assholes, and go "maybe my death will help the town" and resign. You SAY there's a lot of scummy people around them, but you never address them. I KNOW your a terse player, and that's good! We need a lot more concise players running around. But you can't give us absolutely nothing, and then fold like a piece of paper the moment you're pressured a tiny bit.

[Parama]

Are you talking to me, Mastin?

[Calcifer]

Oh! Calc agrees with me about Cookie. I feel good about myself now. The question here though, Calc, being a bit hypocritical yourself, is did YOU really think Cookie was serious. And if so, why?

I figured he was using crappy voting reasons like that in order to point out Jerb's crappy reasons. It felt like a serious vote because it points out scumminess somewhere else, and it was made when "things were picking up".

So guys, which is better - trying to defend myself and getting shot down mercilessly by the asshole-ish nature of Calcifer, or simply doing nothing and letting myself get lynched anyways? Either way I feel like my lynching is gonna be a hell of an "I-told-you-so" moment for town and might sway this game. I'm totally fine with getting lynched.

So you think that the town's going to unify to avenge you if you go down with nothing more than "lol Calc is a jerk"?

Yeah, but when I try to scumhunt you criticize my style. What's the point?

Catching scum?

@Calcifer 173: Are you seeing the same thing I am?

No

[Calcifer]

My vote on Parama isn't sudden, I've been considering it for days.

Perhaps someone can enlighten me regarding the merits of continuing to pile onto the Friend wagon? We don't want a speedlynch, and forcing him to roleclaim won't likely help. If he's a town PR, he'll get killed by the scum on N1. If he

claims

a PR, most people will be dissuaded from following through, which will get him off the hook if scum. So...why build the wagon this big nine days out from deadline?

Preview edit @Icey: both votes on C-Worl have since been unvoted, though I'm not convinced of his innocence and I'm not taking your word for it sans explanation.

YOU'VE been considering it for days, but how are WE supposed to know that?

Well, I'm not involved in any of the arguments, and I'd rather move on to investigating others. I'll grant that Friend is the scummiest at this point, but there's plenty of other things to do. Ignoring that and speed-lynching just gives scum a free pass. To do what you're suggesting they'd have to lurk

successfully

Seriously, Calcifer, this guy is town?

Yup.

diddin : [winger]

Would actually bet some money this is a distancing from two bad players.

Kindly fuck off.

unvote, Vote: [winger]

I was reaction testing Parama to see if he's OMGUS me for voting him. Apparently not.

Wait one second.
This deserves its own post.

[Calcifer]

UNVOTE: VOTE: DIDDIN

[silverbullet999]

Calcifer's recent string of posts has me say this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV1fUwKMdAI

[diddin]

You can't attack people for not explaining anything and then put down a vote with no explanation. Hypocrisy.

[silverbullet999]

*hides in bunker before the flame war commences*

[nhammen]

SCUM
Antihero (Previously Cookie_Of_Death)
DLG
Friend
[winger]
TwoHeadedBoy (InflatablePie+Fugitive)

CONFIRMED TOWN:
Pine

TOWN:
Parama
Empking
diddin
AGar
ConfidAnon (Yes. He is.)
Jerbs
Wraith
GreyICE
nhammen
C-worl
evilpacman18
silverbullet999

We got this game. Let's lynch these scumbags. Doesn't matter what the order is.

You listed me as town. At a point in the game in which I had made only one post, which contained a random vote and an explanation of why I would be gone for 2.5 days. Where exactly did this town read come from?

Speaking of my random vote:
UNVOTE:
It is on a player that I do not believe is scum. I will vote for someone after finishing my catch-up.

More to come ... later I guess? Still near top of page 11...

[Empking]

Unvote

Vote; Diddin

I can definitely go with this. (Especially due to my new town read on Friend.)

[diddin]

Unvote

Vote; Diddin

I can definitely go with this. (Especially due to my new town read on Friend.)

This is the first time you've mentioned me in this game? Why am I all of a sudden scum?

[Calcifer]

You can't attack people for not explaining

anything

and then put down

a

vote with no explanation. Hypocrisy.

Relevant parts are bolded for your viewing pleasure.
There's one hell of a difference between never explaining shit and not explaining something. You dig?

You listed me as town. At a point in the game in which I had made only one post, which contained a random vote and an explanation of why I would be gone for 2.5 days. Where exactly did this town read come from?

There was no null section, so you got a free pass based on benefit of the doubt.

[Calcifer]

I like pine and winger as my main suspects, with c-worl and GreyICE as minor suspects. I definitely agree that pine is trying too hard to be town. All of his massive walls seem like waffling to me. He's also buddying up to Mastin, a more experienced player, like no tomorrow.

...I definately didn't notice that.

Looks like Pine's not an acceptable lynch for today. As such, I will

unvote, Vote: [winger]

This is scummy as hell because it shows that he's just reading to dig up dirt on people. I mean, how the hell could he notice Pine buddying up to us, but not accuse us of buddying to Pine? This was after we called him CONFIRMED TOWN. The rest of his first post supports this sentiment too; the post is essentially four suspects, with a quote and rebuke of a quote supporting each suspicion.

And after he votes, he has absolutely ZERO interest in following up that vote. He just comments on other shit until winger votes him.

BUT
HERE'S THE CLINCHER:

diddin : [winger]

Would actually bet some money this is a distancing from two bad players.

Kindly fuck off.

unvote, Vote: [winger]

I was reaction testing Parama to see if he's OMGUS me for voting him. Apparently not.

When accused of distancing from two bad players (this is after he called C-Worl idiot town), he overreacts like this and then backs down. This is pretty much the furthest thing from a town reaction possible.

[diddin]

I took offense to being called a bad player. It looked like IcyCupcake was just trying to smear me.

If you didn't know, Parama and I have a history. I'm generally pretty good at reading him. As such, I reaction tested him as previously stated. Parama is obviously NOT a viable lynch currently and probably won't be for today.

[diddin]

EBWOP: It's hard to comment more on winger when he has posted absolutely no content since his vote on me.

[Wraith]

Diddin's not a bad player, he's just naturally scummy, like me. So far his play seems similar to that in Simpsons Mafia, where we both believed the other was scum for a long time.

[TwoHeadedBoy]

Ugh, reading. Where'd my other head go?

*goes to catch up*

~Pie

[silverbullet999]

Friend is the way to go day 1 people......

[TwoHeadedBoy]

Perhaps someone can enlighten me regarding the merits of continuing to pile onto the Friend wagon? We don't want a speedlynch, and forcing him to roleclaim won't likely help. If he's a town PR, he'll get killed by the scum on N1. If he

claims

a PR, most people will be dissuaded from following through, which will get him off the hook if scum. So...why build the wagon this big nine days out from deadline?

Then how do you suppose we lynch scum in this game? Just sit around with our thumbs up our asses until deadline? That's an even worse idea.

Someone explain to me how Pine is town again, please.

Well, I'm not involved in any of the arguments, and I'd rather move on to investigating others. I'll grant that Friend is the scummiest at this point, but there's plenty of other things to do. Ignoring that and speed-lynching just gives scum a free pass. To do what you're suggesting they'd have to lurk

successfully

"Sure, the largest bandwagon is scummy, but I want other people to be pressured/voted."

Seriously, Calcifer, this guy is town?

Never thought I'd say this, but... *sigh* ^

351 + 352 (and practically all of Parama's ISO) is Parama showing the douchey part of his meta. 'Course, I don't know if that says anything about his alignment... nullread for now. Also, not sure what to think of diddin. Like Parama, I'm getting a nullread from his recent posts; maybe I'm missing something? Finally, I'm liking silver less and less. Tons of fluff posts and Friend-pushing with not a lot of other content? Rubs me the wrong way.

I'll read everything over again tomorrow night when I'm less tired. Pine vote stays, though.

~Pie

[Pine]

I'm quite at a loss. So you folks want to speed lynch and

give away

the 9 remaining days we have to scum hunt? We can come back to Friend at any time, he's not going anywhere. I've heard recklessness called pro-Town, but trading away time for the quickest, obvious lynch just doesn't seem wise.

[Pine]

EBWOP: THB, you'll find that that second quote answers your first question. I most certainly do

not

propose inactivity. Quite the opposite.

[silverbullet999]

-TwoHeaded

Tons of fluff posts and Friend-pushing with not a lot of other content?

Seriously? I mean... seriously? no joke? are you kidding?
Aren't I the one that started the gad damn friend wagon in the first place. Aren't I the one that questioned friend and had him show the failscum that he was? No Of Course Not.. I'm just a gad damn joke apparently, just a gad damn joke.

[TwoHeadedBoy]

-TwoHeaded

Tons of fluff posts and Friend-pushing with not a lot of other content?

Seriously? I mean... seriously? no joke? are you kidding?

I was mostly talking about your recent posts. Observe:

Friend is the way to go day 1 people......

*hides in bunker before the flame war commences*

Calcifer's recent string of posts has me say this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV1fUwKMdAI

Perhaps someone can enlighten me regarding the merits of continuing to pile onto the Friend wagon?

Friend = scum.

I feel like hammen threw that in there to spite me...

....

Or maybe he's trying to dissuade the theory because I was correct and he's protecting his scumbuddies?!

-nhammen

I'm thinkin on that.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Explain what about Wraith's quote was "scummy as hell"

You do realize I asked this a couple pages ago and have since been constantly ignored about it... right?

*headdesk*

Friend... is scummyererer

*seconds the Friend wagon*

Only 32 and 33 seem close to content, the rest is, like I said, fluff or baseless Friend-pushing.

~Pie

[silverbullet999]

That's because the base of friend has already been built! There's no point unless Friend miraculously comes back and actually answers questions posted to him and becomes useful!!