Open 293 - Donner Party Mafia, Take Two (Game Over)

[Friend]

/confirm

[Friend]

VOTE: lane01168

Too excited.

[Friend]

Tclaw, is this your first game?

[Friend]

@DH - no. I just found the use of two exclamation points in her confirm post amusing.

Tclaw, why did you change your vote when pressured by DRK? I don't think that your vote was intended to be malicious. However, I dislike your reaction - shut down.

I've played with shotty-scum, and ended up defending him most of the way, stupidly enough, since I've also played with shotty-town. They're oddly mostly the same, at least from my experience.

Singer, I'm going to assume that was a serious vote. What do you mean by trying too hard?

[Friend]

DRK, any reason for the read on me?

I think lane is town too. Tcl I'm not so sure about.

[Friend]

Alright. I actually have a similarly iffy gut feeling about you too.

[Friend]

AtE is the wrong term, but andrew actually brings up a valid point. That bolded bit is slightly scummy - it's kind of like whining when the doc dies, an easy way to appear town without doing anything at all.

[Friend]

No, I still think lane is probably town. Just that one point is a little scummy, but the rest of it doesn't feel like it.

[Friend]

@Magna - Good point, although in my defense the wagon grew from 2 to 4 during my time at school.

UNVOTE: Lane
VOTE: DemonHybrid

I feel like this is a better wagon. DH's case is basically "uhh what Magna said" and it seems to me like he's just picking on easy targets.

[Friend]

I don't think flipflopping on reads is a scumtell either.

[Friend]

I think lane is definitely town, and the wagon on him is scumdriven.

[Friend]

@Friend

I can't tell, is this sarcasm? If not, who do you expect to be scum?

No, not sarcasm. I think DH is likely scum. Same with twistedspoon.

I'm kind of flopping on DH and twisted but twisted has been worse recently so:

UNVOTE: DemonHybrid
VOTE: Twistedspoon

I don't think andrew is scum. I have a gut scum read on DRK but I can't really put it into words or give concrete reasons - maybe if I look back over it it'll come together.

[Friend]

I don't think andrew is scum.

What do you think of Twistedspoon's posts regarding the andrew wagon?

I think they're a poor excuse to set up a wagonvote on a weak player like andrew.

[Friend]

I don't think andrew is scum.

What do you think of Twistedspoon's posts regarding the andrew wagon?

I think they're a poor excuse to set up a wagonvote on a weak player like andrew.

Let's assume for the moment that Twistedspoon is scum. Can you explain to me the thought process behind his posts if andrew is town?

Either to gain town cred when andrew flips town (oh hey look at me I defended a townie I'm great at reading people) or he's looking like he's being undecisive so he doesn't called called out for wagoning.

[Friend]

I don't know about the twisted-andrew connection. Waffling over townieness is easy to fake.

[Friend]

All you guys calling me out for wagoning (*cough* MAGNA *cough*) I was the first vote on twisted. DRK wagoned on ME, not the other way around. She was the one arguing with twisted, but calling my vote a hypocritical wagon hop is the farthest thing from the truth. Total misrep and it's scummy as hell. Also, there's more than one scum. I feel more confident about TwistedSpoon than DRK - like I said before, there's nothing concrete that I can really say about DRK. It's just a feeling.

[Friend]

Twisted, make a read. Who is scum on your wagon?

[Friend]

Twisted, make a read. Who is scum on your wagon?

Hello, Captain Hypocricy!!!

I've asked you on multiple occasions to support your assertions that the Lane wagon is scum-driven with reads.

Each time you ignore.

Yet now you are calling someone else on the carpet for not making reads?

Everyone jump on board, this wagon is go!!!!

UNVOTE: Lane
VOTE: Friend

Magna I'm thinking you have to be scum this game, because you're normally not this stupid. If you've actually read me you'd understand that I've said multiple times that I think DH and twisted are prob-scum. Both are on the Lane wagon. I didn't think I had to spell it out for you. Add this to the whole point earlier about me wagoning when I didn't actually wagon at all and your misreps are starting to look scummy as hell.

[Friend]

Here you contradict yourself in regards to DH in two sentances. First he is likely scum but then you turn around and say you are ‘flopping’ on DH? What? Makes no sense if you had a real read on him as scum to say you are flopping on him. Instead you change your vote from a no-go wagon DH to Twisted who is catching hell in thread. And again – no reasons that are concrete – you simply say he is ‘worse recently’.

I meant flopping as in I wasn't sure which one was scummier and which one I wanted to vote for. Yet ANOTHER misrep. You keep doing these, Magna, and I know you're a good player and not an idiot. So, which is it? Are you scum, or have you lost your mind this game?

[Friend]

I mean you're not even addressing or seeming to understand the huge amount that you've been misrepping me. And that is the reason I ignored you - I had said it already.

[Friend]

Romanus, why is your vote better served on me?

Can someone on my wagon that's not Magna explain the case on me? I'd like to see where you guys are coming from, since all Magna has done is misrep.

[Friend]

I'm here. Am I getting lynched?

[Friend]

Meh whatever. This happens far too often because I'm just not good at putting cases into words. I'm a VT but it won't matter too much.

[Friend]

I'll wait to lay down the hammer until you guys are ready. But this seems like an easy call.