Mini 1144 - AW: Mafia Strikes

[crazypianist1116]

Vote: SocioPath

for trying to get an unnecessary modkill.

Hai guyz.

[crazypianist1116]

Vote: SocioPath

for trying to get an unnecessary modkill.

Hai guyz.

You're missing context. In the last game me and Socio were in together(along with several players in this game), we were scum and I got modkilled for calling one of the players a "dumbfuck".

You're missing the context. It's called RVS.

[crazypianist1116]

I CAN TALK IN ALL CAPS TOO LOLOLOL.
Seriously, chill out.

[crazypianist1116]

Users browsing this forum: crazypianist1116,

GAME.
SET.
MATCH.

What. A. Troll.
Seriously, I've been in the forum. You can keep on refreshing your page. I'm not leaving. I'm also playing another game in this forum. Really if you want to show me the study that you did that says browsing but not posting in a topic = scum by all means go ahead and lynch me.

[crazypianist1116]

I have no interest in jumping into the 8 pages worth of bickering that you, chesskid, and gandalf have created. And don't give shit about me "lurking." It's been not even a day since the game started and not even half the players have made significant posts either. When I feel like wading through everything and making a case on someone, I will, but it won't happen tonight as I don't feel like being on this forum for the next 2 hours making a case.

[crazypianist1116]

There may be some mod contradiction but the point was probably ck eats his target's kill while his target eats ck's kill.
Yes I'm alive. Sorry for being proded. I need to reread the past few pages. TS looks promising with Fate's analysis but I think we'd have to wait for a CK flip. Could someone explain where the extra votes are/who has them?

[crazypianist1116]

Ooooh let me try one of these:
Hi my name is chesskid3 and I'm mad because I happened to draw all the votes to me so I'm going to point fingers at everyone as I go down.

That so much can be gleaned from the vote count.

[crazypianist1116]

Wow I should stop being awake for 24 hours and read more >_>

[crazypianist1116]

Wow I didn't vote for anyone other than RVS yesterday >_> But it was only 3 days long.
Anyways, catching up wasn't too bad. I'm not seeing the case on TS apart from lurking and again day 1 was three days long. Bv's pretty scummy for the wagon jumping. I only ask that gandalf asks him for a claim before he unleashes his, I'm guessing here, 4 votes on him.

On to who else I think is scummy:
Enigma, you're digging your hole deeper with each post. How would you know the scum kill timer? For all we know, it could charge each lynch and you're just trying to confuse the shit out of us. That accelerate seemed to happen way too readily as well.

VOTE: Enigma

I'm wary of Implosion as well.

[crazypianist1116]

I got confused by the double negatives:

I wouldn't doubt that it hasn't been changed.

Unvote

I'm just saying speculating on the night kill timer can only lead to possible confusion such as scum implanting a false idea.

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In other news, AurousVox was on the TheMask wagon the whole time without explaining his vote at all and then starts the chess wagon on gut (even though that vote wasn't recorded). He proceeds to question him on why his fate vote was bad.

[crazypianist1116]

Give me 4 hours to get on a computer.

[crazypianist1116]

Wow, GhostWriter, that was practically random. So you're voting to accelerate the lynch, which inevitably means you're voting for gandalf to lynch bv. I'm pretty convinced of the bv lynch myself, but your accelerating the lynch makes it look like you're trying to get bv lynched without actually looking like that. Also your implosion vote came out of nowhere.

FoS: GhostWriter

Hypothesis: Chesskid is scum with a town flip.

[crazypianist1116]

Reasoning: CP had a chance to criticize my Implosion vote. What did he do instead? He pretty much agreed with it, claiming to also be wary of Implosion. Clearly, that implies that you had, or were claiming to have, suspicion of Implosion. You also did not go into that any further than I did. In fact, you left yourself able to hop onto any reasoning I decided to give. Of which I gave none. It was a fucking reaction vote. Gandalf being as powerful as he claimed to be at the time meant I had leeway to use my vote for other reasons. Implosion seemed like he could warrant a vote just to get him to do something. Not giving a reason when you vote tends to piss off the person you're voting, getting a reaction faster.

Wow, I did do that. Yeah I deserve all this attention. I'm going to go make sure next time I play a mafia game, I actually read before I speak.

CP criticizes my Accelerate. Not the first one he's criticized. And criticizes it based on assuming I don't understand what I'm doing. Right. I totally don't. That's why I gave us vital info on it earlier so we didn't do it premature, i.e. before we had a lynch possible. We now have a lynch possible, and on someone you find scummy. If you really had a problem with it,

the town thing to do is let it go through, and then, tomorrow, on wagon analysis, bring that shit up.

Waiting to release noticed information is always the town thing to do. Especially after "night kills" can happen.
Regardless, that is not what I said. What I said is that you were not at all supportive of the bv lynch. You talked about the CO power and role speculated, but you never called bv scum. Accelerating the lynch is a way of making that lynch happen faster while making it look like you were not on the bv wagon.

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And not accelerating the lynch allows scum to gain kill ANYWAY and get the kill off BEFORE we can get our second lynch.

You know this how?

[crazypianist1116]

Well let's see, the kill timer last game was 14 days. If you're positive that the kill timer this game is 14 days as well then yes your statement holds but that's not necessarily true.

[crazypianist1116]

GhostWriter, I am asking you how you know the scum timer will charge in a specific amount of time. Also, you have not definitively supported a bv lynch yet you are on the accelerate lynch wagon. You knew fully well that accelerating the lynch would lead to bv's lynch.

[crazypianist1116]

I'm being rational here. GhostWriter was dead positive the scum kill timer would charge before lynch cooldown ended. The only people who should know how long the scum kill timer should take to charge are scum. Basing it on past games is a bad idea as we don't know what has changed.

[crazypianist1116]

Suggesting and being 100% positive are two different things.

[crazypianist1116]

So you WOULD suspect a person who assumed that scum had a nightkill every night?

Only if it was reasonable to do so. In this setup, I know nothing about the scum timer and thus assume only the scum know the scum timer. In most other setups where lynches aren't time based, it's reasonable to assume scum have a nightkill every night. Yes I know that contradicts the question above. I thought you were referring to this specific setup.

[crazypianist1116]

In an effort to save myself, I'll claim.
Eagle:
CO Power: Lightning Drive (Target player's CO meter charges at double the rate)
Super CO Power: Lightning Strike (Target a player. The next time they use their co power it has the super co power effect and if they use their super co power it has double the effect)
Static: I'm immune to abilities that affect the charge speed.

My co power's charged and if anyone wants me to use it on them to vouch for me I can.

[crazypianist1116]

CP's power is provable. I'd suggest going back to bv. Gand holds the hammer of course.

The Mask if you are willing to vouch for me...

[crazypianist1116]

OK so if anyone wants to confirm my power you can volunteer. Reasons for why it's town.
If it were scum it'd be a little overpowered:
Order of events:
1. Use super co power on self
2. use co power on self (acting as super co power)
3. use co power on scum team power role(acting as doubled co power) - 4x scum power right there.
That's a bit unbalanced. Bv's powers on the other hand seem rather retroactive rather than proactive but they fit with the flavor.
I want to go back and look at aurousvox, sociopath, and enigma specifically now that we're guaranteed more time. Scum vibes are ringing but I want to support them.

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Noone is volunteering to be the target of the enabler.
If it does happen, it'll be by general consensus.

If you want this to happen, then propose somebody.

P-EDIT: You make a good point.

And the more I look at it, the more gandalf's role seems scum orientated.

I've thought about this. A lot. I've thought about it as being third party. It's a great way to bully other people into using/not using their votes. Further the switch from me to bv purely based on bv's role doesn't hold much weight. It seemed he was really adamant about my horrible statements a few pages back, and he had both our roles for a while now.

Enigma, suggesting that scum have potential SOLE CONTROL of the lynch on D2(and onward from there, in fact) is ridiculous. In fact, if I played my role right as scum, it would literally be impossible for town to win unless they lynched me D1.

See the thing with this is that there's a cooldown period. Judging from your actions after the lynch, your power which gave you the 6 votes was activated immediately, rather than waiting until after the lynch was accelerated to use it. You still have to convince town to accelerate the lynch or else the timer will wear off. That doesn't make it less powerful, just more limited.

[crazypianist1116]

Might as well.
VOTE: GreyIce

If you don't want this vote on you, I'll unvote. Implosion's scum, Fate's already confirmed this.

[crazypianist1116]

Oh hey, I could use my SuperCO power on you GreyIce and I guess you'd get 2 of the 3 reads.

[crazypianist1116]

Well GreyICE, I just used the SCO power. Note that it doubles the effect of the super co power and gives the co power the effect of the super co power.

[crazypianist1116]

VOTE: Implosion
Nuff said.

[crazypianist1116]

Mod just said it worked.

[crazypianist1116]

Prod dodge. Reading soon.

[crazypianist1116]

I suppose I shouldn't have said anything before I submitted my SCO power >_>
What are the votes now? Enigma lynch sounds good. If 12 rolls around again without a nightkill and GreyICE is able to use his shots then, I think Enigma then bv look like good candidates.
If you guys want to kill me, I don't really have a say in it so that's that.

[crazypianist1116]

No I didn't. I couldn't have charged my co power followed by my sco power that fast.

[crazypianist1116]

AurorusVox - ()
bv310 - ()
crazypianist1116 - ()
Enigma - (GreyICE, bv310, SocioPath, Gandalf5166)
Fate - ()
gandalf5166 - ()
GreyICE - ()
SocioPath - ()
Twistedspoon - ()

Not voting - (AurousVox, crazypianist1116, Engima, Fate, Twistedspoon)

Accerlate cooldown - (gandalf5166, SocioPath, GreyICE, AurousVox, bv310)

So one more accelerate = enigma lynch?

[crazypianist1116]

Accelerate is a 2/3 majority.

[crazypianist1116]

VOTE: Accelerate Lynch

[crazypianist1116]

@Mod, votecount please

[crazypianist1116]

Vote: SocioPath

Sorry for getting prodded. I'm just not following this game well. Did the votecount reset?

I presume we're at 4-2 which is mylo but I'm not certain of the 2.

[crazypianist1116]

What's the point of accelerating over waiting for the timer to resolve this time?

[crazypianist1116]

The fuck gandalf?

[crazypianist1116]

VOTE: bv310

[crazypianist1116]

To all: Who do you want to kill?

[crazypianist1116]

and I can win at this point; I'm town

Elaborate.

Gandalf, I'm currently supportive of a bv lynch. If you want TS lynched as well, you can jump on his wagon but I don't intend to at this moment.

[crazypianist1116]

Lol I played horribly.
Kind of lost interest after the ridiculous day 1. It was a pain to keep up with and there was so much unnecessary material there. Not being a real part of it made it a bit difficult to get reads as it was going by ridiculously quickly. Granted, that's probably why I was kept around so late. Ridiculously bad D2 play as well.

[crazypianist1116]

The waiting for the kill to charge point is null as ts/gandalf could have still voted fate during his lurkinness while accelerating the lynch and the lynch would have resolved first.

[crazypianist1116]

OK so here's how I see it happening.

In an ideal world the lynch of bv would have occurred on 4/20.
Gandalf would then be at L-1 for having one fewer vote but he wouldn't die as the lynch wasn't cooldown.
Fate would have voted gandalf to kill him obviously.
But gandalf and ts would have obviously spotted this and accelerated and voted for fate at the same time.
TS is left alive for a town win.

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Gandalf voted for all 3 people within the span of 3 hours, Fate being the first one. I'm willing to call this a draw.