There Will Be Bloodshed (Game Over)

[Pine]

EBWOP: *"Freudian slip" is the wrong term for it. But re-read 1042 and see the contradiction. C-Worl is mixing up his stories.

[C-Worl]

I'm confused. I've said that I don't think your scum in previous posts and that was my reasoning. What are you trying to get at?

[C-Worl]

Well, that in Calcifer it's more of a combination of the two.

[Romanus]

Sorry guys, I need to do a real catch up.

[Hiraki]

nhanmen. That should be read as joining his wagon, rather than joining the wagon on him.

Is Apok being replaced or something?

[Hiraki]

EWBOP: Disregard that last part, I mixed up two games.

[silverbullet999]

you are doing that quite a bit... -_-

[ConfidAnon]

I want to say Calcifer, EPM, and Romanus are all scum, but it's too unlikely that a large chunk of the scumteam would buddy each other so hard. So I've lost confidence in my Calcifer-scum read than the other two.

I think this has something to do with the fact that you got called out on it, doesn't it?

But the claim . . . I really don't see any way for that to be a scum claim.

Unvote, Vote: Empking

Evilpacman just seems apathetic - from personal experience, I know that apathy is a nulltell.

[evilpacman18]

Actually, wait a second! I am falling for the too scummy to be scum fallacy!

VOTE: EPM

That's not a fallacy at all and is true more often than not. Also how am I scummy? Let alone too scummy.

[silverbullet999]

-evil
Where's the case on me? I want my explanation.

[Pine]

Careful, EPM. Silver tends to throw tantrums if you don't immediately produce.

[silverbullet999]

... pine i'll stab you...

[Wraith]

Unvote Vote: Romanus

My gut's telling me that this is a higher chance of a scumflip than EPM. We can lynch EPM another day.

[TwoHeadedBoy]

Wraith - I believe the claim. It seems to match up with his play, and to anyone who still thinks he's scum: we're not gonna lynch a claimed protective role today anyways. So let's move on.


C-Worl - I don't like his early claiming at ALL. Screams over-defensive scum, and I'm still suspicious of him from his Pinevote earlier. What I like even less though, is Pine's crazy theory for pushing a C-Worl lynch. Did no one else read that at all?

unvote, Vote: Pine

- back to the tree.


EPM - I don't remember his meta from other games, so I can't use that to make any judgements. But I'm not liking Post 1058. Also:

Calc, have either of you ever played with Pie before?

I don't think I've played with Mastin. But I believe I have played with Nacho in a game or two.


Romanus - I'm not seeing the case on Romanus exactly. And he actually does have good points on silver in Post 866 (ISO 20).


silver - Rom has a point with the whole "oh shit reaction" at the end of the day. This combined with all the fluffposting he's been doing (and I know I've called him out on this at least once) doesn't help.

FoS: Silver

nhammen - Asks a lot of questions. Aside from that, I'm not liking 1041. It just reads... funny. Something to note.


Confid - Parking a vote on Emp, who is not a main focus of the day, with no reasoning behind the vote. Suspicious!

FoS: Confid

No one else has really stood out.

Scum are most likely in the group of C-Worl/Pine/silver/Confid. At least two of those players have to be scum, or my reads just blow. EPM and nhammen are giving me bad vibes, but I don't think I can see them as scum just yet. At least one of Emp/Anti/Hiraki is probably scum as well, if I had to guess.

~Pie

[Calcifer]

By VCA, I calculated this:

Jerbs (9):

Calcifer, Parama

,

Hiraki

,

Diddin (2)

,

ConfidAnon

, Empking, C-worl, TwoHeadedBoy

The bolded are my choice of scum. Italicized is my choice of the choice. This Jerbs wagon contains 1-2 scum in it, after all.

Pine (7) :

Diddin (2)

, Empking,

Parama, Wraith, Jerbs

, Evilpacman18

This Pine wagon ALSO needs 1-2 scum (else it was COMPLETELY town-driven--theoretically possible, but extremely improbable), but at this point, it really only can be Empking and/or Evil. :/

Friend (10): silverbullet999,

AGar, Parama, Wraith

, C-worl, Iceycupcake,

Calcifer

, nhammen, Twoheadedboy, Pine

1-3 scum. Of these choices, I currently have a strong town-read on Icey, and a semi-strong town read on Twoheadedboy.
That means it can be silver or nhammen, really. Unless Friend was seriously THAT town-driven (again, possible, but not probable), it's looking like one of those two at minimum is scum.

*controversial method of VCA removed for your sanity*
--This method left evilpacman18, Romanus/[winger], Pine, Empking, silverbullet999, and C-worl all as possible suspects.

*controversial method of VCA #2 removed for your sanity*
--And THIS one left one of {silver, nhammen} as scum, with 1-2 scum in {Romanus, C-worl, Antihero, Hiraki} and 1 scum in {Pine, ConfidAnon, Evil}.

So, scumteam: {

silver

, nhammen}, Evil, {

Hiraki

, ConfidAnon}, and Romanus. If there's a fifth, it'd likely be Antihero.

This is from VCA alone. When taken into account our reads, it leaves Hiraki and Romanus in extremely bad light (with Antihero also looking bad). We haven't discussed silver, nhammen, Evil, or ConfidAnon recently, though, so will need to do so. (I'd say ConfidAnon is town for now, though.)

[silverbullet999]

-THB

This combined with all the fluffposting he's been doing (and I know I've called him out on this at least once) doesn't help. FoS: Silver

It's almost like you just read posts where I say one line.. yay!

And he actually does have good points on silver in Post 866 (ISO 20).

I've already stated that this doesn't work in previous posts and is thus invalid.

lastly what "oh shit" reaction... my counterattacks on attacks?

[Calcifer]

Not Voting: Romanus,

C-worl

, Antihero,

Hiraki

Wraith (5): Calcifer,

Pine

, ConfidAnon, Evilpacman18, Hiraki, C-worl
Pine (2): Empking, TwoHeadedBoy
Romanus: IceyCupcake

Calcifer: Wraith

TwoHeadedBoy: nhammen
C-Worl (3): Diddin (2), Pine
Evilpacman18 (2): silverbullet999, Wraith

8 to lynch.


Not Voting: Romanus, Antihero, Hiraki
Wraith (2):

Calcifer

,

ConfidAnon

, Evilpacman18,

Hiraki

, C-worl
Pine (2): Empking, TwoHeadedBoy
Romanus (3): IceyCupcake, Calcifer, Wraith

TwoHeadedBoy: nhammen

C-Worl (0):

Diddin (2)

,

Pine

Evilpacman18 (4): silverbullet999,

Wraith

, Diddin (2), EPM
nhammen: Pine
Empking: ConfidAnon

8 to lynch.

Cleaned up, for current votecount:

Not Voting: Romanus, Antihero, Hiraki
Wraith (2): Evilpacman18, C-worl
Pine (2): Empking, TwoHeadedBoy
Romanus (3): IceyCupcake, Calcifer, Wraith
Evilpacman18 (4): silverbullet999, Diddin (2), EPM
nhammen: Pine
Empking: ConfidAnon

[TwoHeadedBoy]

lastly what "oh shit" reaction... my counterattacks on attacks?

rom was the better way to go me thinks

~3.14

[Empking]

I'd almost expect the Pine wagon to consist soley of town. He's not an easy lynch and the fact that Calc refuses to let him be lynched distracts the town. And that's on the off chance he's town.

[Calcifer]

*Evilpacman is not voting himself. That's Nhammen as the fourth voter, I believe.

[silverbullet999]

-THB
read my iso 89 and 90
then reply

[Calcifer]

Unvote, Vote: EPM

.

LET'S DO THIS.

[silverbullet999]

-EMP

I'd almost expect the Pine wagon to consist soley of town.

coincidentally

Pine (2): Empking, TwoHeadedBoy

[Calcifer]

Wagons which need to die

:

Wraith (2):

Wraith's claim is pretty much the one claim I'd believe, coming from him. Had he claimed pretty much anything else, I'd be wanting him dead, but his claim makes him confirmed town.

Pine (2):

I'll admit--it's

possible

pine is scum. Possible, but not

probable

. I have townreads on both of you, and I think you two need to use your votes elsewhere, even if you DO still think Pine is scum--if he is, we can deal with him later; we have bigger scum to fry.

nhammen:

Worthless wagon. Admittedly, nhammen is a suspect, but not a severe one worthy of lynching. Your vote is best placed elsewhere.

Empking:

Looks like you made a typo! Please switch your "EMP" vote for an "EPM" vote.

Wagons which make me cry to not see more votes on:

Romanus (2):

Good Wagon.

Evilpacman18 (5):

...But this one's better. We only need three more!

[GreyICE]

Alright.

Glad to see someone read my book and is on my page.

Vote:PACMAN

Romanus is scum Pie, but we can argue about it tomorrow, or some other time.