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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:28 am

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silverbullet999 wrote:I wanna know what the mod error was.

Also does being neighborized cause you to lose your old role and become a new role with the town?

Also who were the neighbors initially icey?

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Neighborizer is not some made up role... also you turning country on us is humorous.
AFAIK Neihborizer just puts you in the quicktopic. It doesn't change your original role or alignment.

@Icey: Why didn't you neighborize me last night? I thought you believed my claim.
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:39 am

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Neighborizer doesn't usually change alignment. It's similar to, but not identical to, the Mason Recruiter. IceyCupcake has expressed suspicion at times of other people in the Neighborhood, so I'm guessing he was told specifically that it doesn't alter alignment.

The "mod error" is a misnomer. Slaxx didn't immediately post that the recruitment had succeeded (as he apparently had in earlier instances of its use,) and I missed the PM and was trying to be subtle after that, which Icey assumed meant that he'd gotten roleblocked. Icey jumping to conclusions = "mod error."
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:11 am

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Wraith wrote:
silverbullet999 wrote:I wanna know what the mod error was.

Also does being neighborized cause you to lose your old role and become a new role with the town?

Also who were the neighbors initially icey?

-Cworl
Neighborizer is not some made up role... also you turning country on us is humorous.
AFAIK Neihborizer just puts you in the quicktopic. It doesn't change your original role or alignment.

@Icey: Why didn't you neighborize me last night? I thought you believed my claim.
afaik your goal was to die as soon as possible. This minimizes your usefulness.
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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:28 am

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GreyICE wrote:
Wraith wrote:
silverbullet999 wrote:I wanna know what the mod error was.

Also does being neighborized cause you to lose your old role and become a new role with the town?

Also who were the neighbors initially icey?

-Cworl
Neighborizer is not some made up role... also you turning country on us is humorous.
AFAIK Neihborizer just puts you in the quicktopic. It doesn't change your original role or alignment.

@Icey: Why didn't you neighborize me last night? I thought you believed my claim.
afaik your goal was to die as soon as possible. This minimizes your usefulness.
Point.
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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:29 am

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VC 15

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: Antihero, nhammen, Hiraki, Diddin, ConfidAnon, C-worl, TwoHeadedBoy, IceyCupcake, Silverbullet999, Romanus

Romanus (2)
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Hiraki
: Pine

Deadline is in 13 days 6 hours.
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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:26 am

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Wraith wrote:C-Worl, stop being a skeptic. You are the ONLY one here who doubts a pair of very believable claims.
That's because none of you, NONE OF YOU, have given any proof. If I were scum, I could claim town Doctor right now. Problem is Doctor and Cop are very common roles. So you both claimed roles that one I know is semicommon, and one that I'm just now hearing about for the first time. Therefore, it's safe claims bc no one else would probably have such a role. Either way I could claim and equally rare or semirare role and there would be no reason to believe your claim or my claim more than the others. I just don't want people to fuck up and give you all the benefit of the doubt simply bc you claimed some shit bc your claims don't have anything backing them.
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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:41 am

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...Except for the fact that the behavior of both claimants, before AND after claim, matches the claim exactly. Not to mention the fact that the Neighborizer claim is confirmed by the other neighbors, which scum would NEVER do. If a fakeclaimed Neighborizer gets killed for any reason, then everyone who confirmed the Neighborizer is auto-scum. Neighborizer is one of the worst fakeclaims.
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:01 am

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I can confirm that we're a neighbor with IceyCupcake and (were) with Calcifer.

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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:49 am

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Did you read
Anything
That Nacho or Mastin Wrote?

Give me a fucking better vote. Or explain a DAMN SIGHT better than you chose to in the quicktopic (say, not at all)

I'm done playing quiet because I have a power role, the information is out and we're now going to use it 100% in this thread.
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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:55 am

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Icey
Also who were the neighbors initially icey?
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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:59 am

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Just himself. Recruited Calc N1, THB N2, me N3
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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:01 am

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Calicifer was Town?

Hmmzorz.

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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:02 am

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Pine wrote:...Except for the fact that the behavior of both claimants, before AND after claim, matches the claim exactly. Not to mention the fact that the Neighborizer claim is confirmed by the other neighbors, which scum would NEVER do. If a fakeclaimed Neighborizer gets killed for any reason, then everyone who confirmed the Neighborizer is auto-scum. Neighborizer is one of the worst fakeclaims.
IT is indeed one of the worst fake claims, until you get into critical mass mode. We've mislynched 3 people. For all we know 1 more mislynch or 2 more mislynches could be fatal. Therefore people wouldn't vote for claimed neighborizor bc it would be too risky. Confirming it makes you equally safe. Therefore town would refuse to lynch the 3 neighbors plus the other claimed PR meaning as a scum team you could have just protected 4 members for one more day, which could help easily win the game.

On the reverse, if the claim is true, all it does is clear Icey. And so far it hasn't really helped the game out, at all.
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I'm sure that makes sense in some way I'm not seeing.... but I'm not seeing how that makes any sense.
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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:06 am

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Alright makes sense

[slight rant]
damn it greyice, I forgot you were part of a hydra for a second and started thinking this was a huge scum gambit that didn't add up!!! [/slight rant]

ahem.. ok

I think rom's the way to go today... though thb why you votin a fellow neighbor.
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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:07 am

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THB
also why aren't you confirming pine is part of your neighborhood.
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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:11 am

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Mod: Would neighbour recruits be declared as such upon death?
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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:20 am

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silverbullet999 wrote:THB
also why aren't you confirming pine is part of your neighborhood.
Eh, sorry didn't think to or forgot. I'm tired after work but it kind of goes without saying.

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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:35 am

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Neighborized Roles would flip their normal role.

Neighborized townies would flip townie
Neighborized goons would flip goon
etc

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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:36 am

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I don't think we're in LyLo yet. With 19 players and what we've learned about town PRs so far, I'd speculate that we have a 5-man scumteam with probably two PRs. So far town has a Neighborizer and Bodyguard, which are two of the weakest PRs the town can have. We aren't in danger of losing today, but with 6 VTs dead the town PRs will probably start getting hit by nightkills.
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:45 am

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Slaxx wrote:
Neighborized Roles would flip their normal role.

Neighborized townies would flip townie
Neighborized goons would flip goon
etc

So you're mod confirming the presence of a Neighborizer?
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Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:50 am

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You really are determined to read every post as narrow as you can, aren't you? Slaxx's post doesn't actually confirm the presence of a Neighborizer, it clarifies how a Neighborizer works in his game.

The fact that three of us are all saying the same thing, and have access to pages and pages of Calc's stuff that wasn't posted here confirms it. Pull your head out of your ass, C-Worl.
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Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:53 am

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Pages and pages of Calc's stuff? All I've seen is random statements of who Calc sees as scum and or mafia. Statement's that anyone could have gotten from reading the thread. So, that proves nothing. Why you gettin mad bro?
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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:17 pm

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omg c-worl... go back to talking country

It made me want to headslam my desk less.

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Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:26 pm

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We haven't posted it for stated reasons, such as not giving the reads away until they're ready to be used, plus the fact that it's pages and pages of material. This QT puts all others to shame.

Still not a fan of the Rom wagon, neighbors disagree. Hiraki wagon gogogo.
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Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:33 pm

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C-Worl, if you won't believe the testimony of three different players, you won't get any further proof on their claims until they are DEAD.

So please, let's stop being sidetracked and get back to the POPCORN MASSCLAIM we were talking about in the first place.
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