Bloodbath in Camden - Game Over!

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Vote King

Best thing out there so far.

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Why does everyone think RVS votes needs reasoning? Did I miss a bulletin?

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And so the fluffy rhetoric begins.

Lets create a bit of controversy. Strongest town read right now is Empking. Opinions?

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I like advocating any lynch that isn't mine on the first page, but the votes on King are highly misreped considering all he asked for was reasons for votes that were on me. He at least gave one, everyone else who voted me didn't even say hello, just plopped down a vote. I can agree that reasoning, no matter how shitty and weak, should still be given in a vote, otherwise it just looks opportunistic at best.

I'm calling this BS.

Giving a joking reason to vote you and just randomly voting you are the same thing, to me at least, because neither offers any legitimate content besides a vote. Such is RVS. And you are missing the point and addressing the wrong issue in this post. We are not voting him because he gave a reason for his vote on you, we are voting him because he scrutinized random votes, which after all, are random and should not fall under any scrutiny.

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Reasons behind RANDOM votes.

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And so the fluffy rhetoric begins.

Lets create a bit of controversy. Strongest town read right now is Empking. Opinions?

You are insane.

Pretty vague for the guy who is pushing for reasons for voting.

How so?

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Toogeloo I find it funny you are shooting down other reasons for FoSs but not pushing any sort of accusations forward on your own. Its definitely noteworthy.

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Toogeloo I find it funny you are shooting down other reasons for FoSs but not pushing any sort of accusations forward on your own. Its definitely noteworthy.

What do you think about my reasoning?

The picture has a lot of words in it.

1000 for the picture+6=1,006.

In all seriousness I think King might be OMGUSing.
I'm torn between Toog (for reasons I stated above) and King (for reason stated right above).

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FoS was a loose term King. We obviously suspect(ed) you. Might as well be an FoS. But he defended you and said he didnt want a bandwagon on himself. That has been the content of his posts. He hasn't been offensive at all. What do you think of Toog's behavior King?

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Meta as self defense NOTED.

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Just because you don't have a scum read doesn't mean you can't start pressuring people.

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VERY PRODUCTIVE A+

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You realize we have 4 days? Repeating yourself is quite possible the least efficient thing you can do.

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Grey whats your take on Hiraki? I feel like he's dancing around Too a litle bit with the "He could be scum but my judgement is impaired" bit.

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In response to Grey:

I am(was now, I need to catch up) feeling an either/or between Toog and King so I want pressure on both. Simple as that. So yeah, I guess those are my intentions. You're right about Hiraki feeling town, but it just bugged me how he danced around the controversy. Felt off.

Also hai everyone else.

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Pretty sure he's referring to bait placed by Lady, not him. I'll reread this one more time because I skimmed it.

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Regardless, Lady's logic is pretty.

unvote, vote: bob

L-1 Bitches.

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This is mainly for my own reference but sharing is caring, so...People who have posted little to nothing so far:

Exe, Furcolow, Me=Weird, Shattered Viewpoint, CJMiller.

I think we should wait for more people to weigh in before anyone hammers, with a 5th of the game not contributing we are missing out on valuable content. Also, quite obviously, a claim from Bob would be not.

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5 people, a 3rd of the player list. Them fractions.

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Wow alright. To answer (quickly) the question addressed to me:

LL is my biggest town read for the perspective slip on Bob. I find it a bit difficult for scum to manufacture that kind of slip on a townie.

Exe's hammer is meh. I'm not liking populartojo. Everyone else is fairly null. I'll look back after a bob flip and should have a nice analysis for tomorrow provided I live.

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Fucking awesome.

Vote: Shattered Viewpoint

Analysis of players to come later tonight.

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CooLDog is probably town due to:
1) His stance on bob yesterday (it felt like a legitimate I don't think he is scum defense, not a I know he isn't scum defense)
2) His interactions with Exe post hammer ( Specifically his last two posts of the day)
3) The reason GreyICE stated about improving his game as a townie moreso than scum.

Furcolow is null because:
1) He has two posts.

Grey: Slight Town
1) Mainly because he hasn't done anything scummy. I can't really point out any huge things that make him town so he gets the BoTD right now.

Hiraki: Slight Town
1) Due to Exe interactions at the end of day 1, although I don't feel they are as strong as the Exe CooLDoG Interactions. I still don't like how he danced around the Toog thing.

King: Neutral
1) I still don't like his beginning game play, although he improved as the game went on. There's enough content there to read him. I just can't put him on one end of the spectrum or the other.

Lady Lamb: Neutral
1) Was looking town until the bob town flip. Still not scum though. We'll see how today goes.

Me=Weird: Neutral
1) Needs moar content.

Pop: Slight Scum
1) In his ISO post #1, how the hell does he have Me=Weird as town with only one post? I feel like the list was a little forced because of that.
2) ISO post #10 is ugly as hell.
3) ISO Post #21 gets him like 1/10 of a town point.

SV: Neutral
1) Needs moar Content

TL: Slight Town
1) For his interactions with Exe at the end of Day 1
2) Because he is pressuring Toog and Toog is scum.

Toog: Scum
1) Pisses around all day about being conservative with votes and self defends with meta then hops on a fast wagon without hesitancy. Says he likes to find town reads before finding scum but hasn't outted a single one that I can find skimming his ISO. Best I see is his refusal to vote King.

Alright so there you go. Have fun with that.

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Unvote, Vote King

Good start of the day bandwagon, and Grey makes a good point.

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Just to clarify, when Bob was referring to "take the bait" he probably meant that LL had placed bait. I think I said that.

I'm not for sure if I like how many people voted him for that line. Anyone who voted him specifically for that then posted after I said that aren't looking good in my eyes. Its one thing to vote him for LL's logic, its another to hop on his bandwagon for the ambiguous post.

Anyway TL, you're way too sure Fur is scum. Who are your scum reads for today besides Toog+Fur. What is you opinion on pop?

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...And then you hopped on a townie's wagon. You also never pressured either.

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Unvote, Vote Toog

Something better than toting your 'towniness' and a Fur vote, if you would be so inclined.

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Toote doesn't seem that bad, to be honest. Maybe I'm just a bit tired, but I don't see what everybody sees that's horrible. I'll try again though the only thing that I saw that was bad, was just that last comment on Page 1. It felt a bit iffy to me.

Just this.

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Furcolow has two posts and is quite possibly the easiest target here. I'm not impressed.

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Funny how he voted Bob there.

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OHAI TOOG NICE OF YOU TO JOIN US

unvote, vote Shattered ViewPoint

Fucking post effs.

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Wait what

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Yes Shattered. How else do you go about sorting out neutral reads? I pressure them. They eventually slide one way or the other.

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F

Yes King*

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Its impossible to get a read from lurkers right now. They aren't just lurkers. They're literally not contributing at all.

Between the 3 inactives there are like two posts.

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FYI THATS WHY WE SHOULD BE PRESSURING THEM

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Shattered Viewpoint and Furcolow definitely need to START FUCKING POSTING

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Mod: Requesting Extension/Game Freeze until replacements are found for the THREE slots

Have to write a paper. Catch up post later tonight,

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Parama, Shattered Viewpoint has not posted in 4 days, unless he picked up prod, that is grounds for replacement, yes?

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Soooo take a stance and vote one then. I wanna see who you pick.

In the mean time, I agree with Hiraki about GreyICE's vote. I'm at a loss so I will probably reread again.

I would like to call attention back to pop placing a town read on M=W day 1 when MW had only posted a RV. What do people make of this?

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town

06. KingTwelveSixteen
12. Lady Lambdadelta
14. Toogeloo
16. Slaxx
10. Me=Weird
11. Hiraki

neutral

03. Empking
04. CooLDoG
05. Shattered Viewpoint
07. GreyICE
09. CJMiller

scum

02. Furcolow
08. bobsnox
13. TheLonging
15. Exe

Vote: Exe.

Thar ya go.

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I should really make a list like that, actually.

Town:

CooLDoG
Hiraki

Leaning Town:

TClaw
TheLonging

Null:

Fur
GreyICE
Toogle
Shattered Viewpoint
Me=Weird
LL

Leaning Scum:

King
Pop


Thur we go. I would be ridiculously surprised if CooL or Hiraki flipped scum. I'm pretty confident in those reads. However, I am not quite as confident on my scum reads. Most confident on Pop. I keep throwing King between null and leaning scum.

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Yeah, he also randomly jumped off Exe (Exe had not yet responded, neither had Fur, so it was rather unprompted) and onto Fur, if you will recall.

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He gave a small analysis, though not too satisfactory by any means. It just felt opportunistic Grey.

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Have I asked King's opinion on Tajo? I forget. If not, King, can you be so inclined to answer said question?

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Hai King.

"Have I asked King's opinion on Tajo? I forget. If not, King, can you be so inclined to answer said question?"

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Why the town read :/

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Lmfao

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Wanna try again or no

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I read it like that too TL, but then figured out he meant that Fur didn't give reasons as to why either were scummy.

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The thing about Exe's flip is Toog is right: King OMGUS voted Exe right away. And he had other people pressuring him if I recall. The argument about Exe's actions doesn't hold there either

1) Because Exe didnt know he was going to be exposed scm that early and
2) Because I am focused more on King's action and not Exe's

What do you make of Grey's fur vote and Tojo's jump off of Exe LL? Same question to CooL.

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But you also dropped the Exe wagon with relative ease.

Anyway who is scum today tojo?

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K so I havent seen you mention TL so an explanation would be nice.

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Scum today: Longing.

Why.

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Scum today: Longing.

Why.

Why did you ask this question?

Curiosity. Its his only scum read and most people see TL as borderline town. I want insight and to see his thought process because he is kind of tripped my scumdar. Why ask why Oo

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SEEEEEE. aha.

Something valuable.

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Nothing is ever lost with a simple why.

Alright pop if you can sift through and find some other sum reads that would be great. In the mean time I am waiting for the questions I asked CooL and LL. Still want better reasoning from King.

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Yeah, he also randomly jumped off Exe (Exe had not yet responded, neither had Fur, so it was rather unprompted) and onto Fur, if you will recall.

Hmmmm.

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Hiraki has received an infraction for: "WAY TOO MANY AVATAR CHANGES".

it's a joke, now laugh.

Day 2 Votecount #3

[4] Furcolow

- TheLonging, Lady Lambdadelta, GreyICE, KingTwelveSixteen, CooLDoG

[2] KingTwelveSixteen

- Furcolow, tclawren

[2] TheLonging

- populartajo, Hiraki

[1] GreyICE

- Toogeloo

[1] Shattered Viewpoint

- Slaxx

[1] Hiraki

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[0] Toogeloo

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[0] CooLDoG

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[0] populartajo

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[0] tclawren

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[0] Me=Weird

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[0] Lady Lambdadelta

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[0] Slaxx

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Not voting: Shattered Viewpoint, Me=Weird

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline for Day 2 is 7 PM CST on 4/15/11.

Still looking for a replacement for Me=Weird.

Parama, is "4" on Fur correct?

No, I just suck at vote counts.

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erm...and the "1" on Hiraki?

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unvote, vote: king

answer my question king >.>

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so yeah fuck my case

what

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Haha alright I think my pop scum read is wrong, which means I have serious rerolling to do. Again.

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Request Prod/ Replacement for Shattered Viewpoint

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Long day is long. Might catch up; if not I will tomorrow. For now,

unvote

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Also Hai Pine ^.^

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Pine, why Hirakiu scum? He's like my second strongest town read.

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Woah and CooL too? Shiznit.

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Erm 13 players in a mini and 13 players now wut

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Toog how do you feel about LL?

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meh, who cares.

Vote: King

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I don't get the point in waiting for a claim, because no matter what he claims, he is still lynch fodder. Right Grey :3

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Fucking SHIT Parama you rined my RT.

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To prevent a real hammer,

unvote

If I can't find a better option by tomorrow so be it. I have town reads on virtually everyone on Fur's wagon though.

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I meant King's wagon. Not Fur's.

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Vote: Deadline Extension

Grey, I will get back to you on that. I have gotten really bad vibes from Lady today, and slightly bad vibes from TL. Your entrance onto the wagon is still o.o but the rest of your play has felt at least decently town.

Lady feels like she is kind of trying to blend in and play it safe when I address her. TL's responses to his wagon are meh and if I recall he hasn't pushed on many people besides Fur. But that is one of the reasons I unvoted, I need to reread again to make sure anyway.

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How long until deadline?

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V/LA just for today

I will have reads up before deadline. The end of this week has been rough, sorry :/

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Looks like I came in just in time. Let me open up my large normal and then catch up.

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Reg- 1st question-He listed someone who RVSed as town. And thats all they did. That looked like scum trying to earn easie peasie townie brownie points. Secondly, he randomly voted Furc. I still don't like his explanation for it. However his frustration led me to believe he was town later. Anyway Grey's point on him makes me question the read. This is the second time he has hopped on Furc randomly.

2nd question: I'm working on. If you want my honest answer right now I'm so lost its not even funny but I will try to shit out something in the next hour. Maybe I will have an epiphany.

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Pop why the Furc vote

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Honestly I'm tempted just to hammer Furc.

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Its plurality, lynch happens regardless bro.

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Its impossible to no lynch in this setup.

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I think its interesting how King thinks it likely for Furc to be third party but not scum. Anyone else read into that or just me?

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Agreed. Has Furc claimed? Was Blue a VT claim?

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K well he needs to.

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Why the fuck wouldn't he claim

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Omg lol I hope he is supersaint maybe he can get me out of this hell hole :3

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Sigh. Furc is town. I can't hammer on a town read. He's just good lynch fodder.

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If Furc flips scum King is probs town. Idk if the opposite is true but I highly doubt we wagoned two scum today.

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Alright, whatever.

Vote Furc

Trollolololol

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Bleh Im not a fan of the setup, but who am I kidding, that mafia team would have kicked my ass on any playing fired anyway

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FIELD DAMN why do I even try to post right after naps

/goes back to bed

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And the three day deadlines.

/has awoken again from nap.
/checks multiple times for typos.

Also yes, I almost had the game broken open. And yes, that hammer was a gambit. And Yes, you guys knew both.