Mini 1161 - Neruzian Era Mafia (Over!)

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Vote: Sloth

• You're doing it wrong.

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Never said I was. I've only been asking about RVS wagons.

• In reference to your wagon question, I think we should have three legitimate wagons before killing anyone.

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Charter, what are your thoughts on RVS wagons?

The bigger, the better.

• I agree.
• Your Empking vote's hilarious, by the way.

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Vote: Sloth

- He looks like scum pretending to be useful.

• And you look like scum. VOTE: Empking

you didn't say anything in this post, why quote so much if you're not going to say anything useful

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also VOTE: vote ts

revenge etc

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Hiplop, why criticize looker for an IIoA-ish post and then throw down an RV?

i wasn't criticizing, was just wondering why he'd put so much effort into quoting a bunch of posts, but then say nothing.

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I have no idea :\

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how about you ?

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is quilford at l-1? i don't want to hammer but im sort of suspecting him now

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oh, i didnt see them, ill post answers right now

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All i can find is Vi's

whos town

So far my town reads are faraday and twistedspoon

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V/LA possibly (90% chance) until Sunday

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is quilford at l-1? i don't want to hammer but im sort of suspecting him now

This is scum making preparatory excuses for their hammer.

actually, it wasn't the hammer since charter soon voted to put you at L-1

Why would you be annoyed? Answer the question though.

Yes, I am nervous scum.

seems a trick question here

So far my town reads are faraday and twistedspoon

care to explain

please understand that I hold anyone with a town read on me in the highest respect
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I'm not following your Sloth and T-spoon reads.

who are your reads then, Vi?

As for why I declared nueky town, well now I can talk about it. Hiplop basically sheeped my reads last game we played, he was scum there, I was wondering if he'd agree with my neuky town read here. Otoh, I've no idea how much attention he's paying

I pointed that out :0

Also, you forgot to point out you were town in that game
and that Hiplop was only stopped because of my heriocs, as I intend to to this time as well should he be mafioso (which I believe he may be for the reasons above)

like my vote on you was sheeping Faraday.

sheeping Faraday.

Faraday.

Hmm...
Well surely that's two players who've sheeped faraday now
Conclusions, faraday?

@Quilford: Hiplop aside I have yet to hear much of you in other reads. Do you still Suspect Scott? Any other noteworthy opinions on players?
@Scott, Pappums and Hiplop: What are the 3 scummiest things you've seen so far?

Well, faraday has been playing the same as he usually does when town, hes just been acting townie the entire time

TS you've been productive and haven't really done anything scummy.

I don't see what was scummy about me asking if he was at l-1? i know he was close and i didnt want to hammer without a claim

As for quilford being scummy, i found #93 #126 seem rather fake/forced.

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Hiplop, what does Faradayscum look like?

Eh, you usually come off as very scummy/ over react to lots of things. Its just pretty easy to spot

Also thoughts on Neuky and Vi?

i dont really have a thought on either of them :\

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oh and it was just that first post/in general seemed a little...off, you get me?

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@Sloth - I was waiting to get answers to my questions from other players first.

I don't like the Quilford wagon as I thought the flip comment was quite townie, and his defensive comments don't seem too off to me either.

VOTE: Hiplop

Just ISO'd him, and there's not a lot going on.

is quilford at l-1? i don't want to hammer but im sort of suspecting him now

He's not paying attention to the game. (Scum don't need to scum hunt). Also, the "sort of suspecting him now" comment rubs me the wrong way. He must have thought Quilford was near L-1, and that seems to be the driving force behind him now suspecting him. He certainly doesn't make a case or anything.

He later says this "I don't see what was scummy about me asking if he was at l-1? i know he was close and i didnt want to hammer without a claim" - again this concerns me as its different. Here he says he was prepared to get a claim from him, before possibly hammering him. That's different to what he said above. (Only sort of suspecting him - hardly hammer material). Also, seemed to be in a bit of a rush for a lynch.

Oh, he also said he has no opinion on me or Vi - but there's a lot more material about us than some other players - yet no opinion at all? Do scum not like to have as few strong opinions as possible? Also - and maybe I'm getting too wifomy here, Faraday had already admitted he was trying to see if hiplop would parrot his "Neuky is town" statement, so he was scared off making an opinion about me at all?

i got this game mixed up with another i am currently playing, thats why i thought he was at l-1

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VOTE: vote quilford

adding pressure

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yeah its going i just got them mixed up :$

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Vote Empking

Zero scumhunting, way too much defending of himself with no real pressure

at all

(like half to 3/4 of his posts are this), and a poor vote on Quilford.

Scumreads: Empking, Scott, and Twisted Spoon. (In that order)
Townreads: Vi, Quilford, Charter, Zdenek, Faraday. (In that order)

Hiplop, you may have already answered this question, but why exactly did you ask if Quilford was at L-1?

I explained this a few times, im playing two games currently, and i was tired, i got them mixed up. I really just didnt want to hammer, nothing worse than a hammer thaats way too early/un needed.

OK im back from my V/LA so i can play ..better

Empking is definitely being scummy, though im not prepared to switch my vote from quilford yet, need a tad bit more convincing i suppose.

My list would look like this

Town
Faraday
Charter
Twisted Spoon
Neuky

Null (AH lots of nulls this game :/)
Scottie
Darth Yoshi - only null due to juls, i have found darth to be fairly pro-town, but i got a scumvibe from juls
pappums
vi
and *probably* if i missed anyone, they're in this category

scum

Quilford
Empking

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Just for pressure? no.

I was adding pressure with the vote, i think hes scum

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oh sorry sloth

honestly, i get a bad feeling from sloth, but i wouldn't classify him as scum.. more like a scummy Null.. if that makes sense :$

As in, i wouldnt be surprised if he flips scum

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In your eyes, hip, what is the reason you're voting Quilford?

Hes scummy, everything he types seems forced

hiplop where'd your neuky town read come from?

Neuky has seemed towny the entire time, hes the one im least confident in though, to be honest.

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actually i haven't really read that part

ill take a looksie now

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yoshi, i was on V/LA and all i had was my phone to log on, so i was pretty brief during that time

I had mentioned before that, that i was suspicioous of qwilfish.

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also can you guys explain the suspicions on Empking?

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this is my second game on mafiascum, though faraday has seen me as town

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and that makes you town automatically?

we both know faraday can be wrong, hiplop :/

where did i say this? i said faraday has seen me as town


and sloth, i meant explain them further

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i use the word though in pretty much every single post TS

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@Hiplop:

hiplop where'd your neuky town read come from?

Neuky has seemed towny the entire time, hes the one im least confident in though, to be honest.

- I don't understand this. Please clarify. my thoughts are how can I appear towny "the entire time", while I'm also the one you are least confident in. Remember that Faraday declared me town, and waited to see if you sheeped his thoughts? This is what I think you did here, but decided to qualify it at the end of your statement.

The others have seemed more pro-town..its really not that difficult to uunderstand..is it?

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@Hiplop: Why would being on your phone keep you from saying whether or not you still suspecting Quil? It isn’t the brevity that I’m wary of you for—it’s your clinging to the Quil wagon.

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i didnt want to check back on the thread on my phone.. thats what i meant. I think quil is scum, the only other wagon is on me.. hence me staying on quil. I suppose i could switch to empking, but i think quils more likely scum

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i didnt want to check back on the thread on my phone.. thats what i meant. I think quil is scum, the only other wagon is on me.. hence me staying on quil. I suppose i could switch to empking, but i think quils more likely scum

So you stayed on Quil's wagon because it was the only viable one, or because he's the scummiest? Which is it? BTW, that you apparently were keeping your vote there out of self-preservation still days prior to the deadline reeks of scum, and the contradiction is just an added bonus.

people can have more than one thought, you know that right? Its for both. Hes the scummiest to me, and at that time he was the only other wagon besides myself.

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people can have more than one thought, you know that right? Its for both. Hes the scummiest to me, and at that time he was the only other wagon besides myself.

Let me rephrase. It sounds like the fact that he was the only other wagon was way more important to you, ergo, you were interested more in self-preservation, which to me says you are probscum.

BTW, I don't think that's reaching at all, Emp.

I'll have more later--I need time to read up on the next page, and I done goofed my schedule for the afternoon.

thats not the case though, i had a scumread on Empking, i asked for further explanation on him as i wanted to know if others were thinking the same as me

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no i dont see why i would get a guilty. My role isn't miller

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that is spoon....

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VOTE: twisted spoon

Scummy vote on me, i dont really understand the twilight thing but it seems to be a unanimous thing that he claimed scum

l-1 now

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to be fair, i think most people thought TS was a toptown read yesterday, but the current actions have greatly changed his appearance

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Well, no. But okay. >_>

>_>

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who's to say he'll flip town? Do you know something compadré?

anyways, didn't I just say in my last post that he was my 3rd highest scum read

, so I'm not actually going to gain any town points from a town-flip empking am I?

Is this what everyone sees as the scumtell? This to me seems uber-scummy. If not, can someone explain this further?

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way to ignore my following post.

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who's to say he'll flip town? Do you know something compadré?

anyways, didn't I just say in my last post that he was my 3rd highest scum read

, so I'm not actually going to gain any town points from a town-flip empking am I?

Is this what everyone sees as the scumtell? This to me seems uber-scummy. If not, can someone explain this further?

i meant this one

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question: Why does everyone think there are 3 killing roles? each night only 2 people have died

it is odd that both faraday and vi are alive, idk if its a scumtell though

Sloth seems townish to me, he could be SK though, he has been seperating himself from others

zdenek was one whoi thought was scum, but him just recently claiming Vig kind of destroys my suspicions on him

Quilford i dont really have a thought on :\ has been lurking and stuff, but seems town since the wagon on him ceased.

through process of elimination Darth Yoshi seems to be the most likely scum candidate i guess :\

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im a vt btw

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question: Why does everyone think there are 3 killing roles? each night only 2 people have died
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Can someone answer this?

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Oh i feel like mr lawls

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sorry for late post, survivor was on

And anyways, i suppose the scum team is darth yoshi and someone, not really sure who. my guesses would be either Vi/far or zdenek :\

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Thanks for insulting me? I dont have the same thought process as you, im still new to mafia, no need to be a jerk :s

Quilford i dont really have a thought on :\ has been lurking and stuff,

but seems town since the wagon on him ceased.

to answer your question DY. Hes not on my scum list, but hes not a clear town to me

And i meant either Vi or Faraday, i highly doubt both are scum. This is my first normal game, i wasnt aware backup roles are considered non-normal, that adds to my suspicion on him tbh List is probably like this now

Town
Sloth
Quilford

Scum
Zdenek
DY


then null would be
faraday and vi.

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Quill is in an odd position for me. Hes the 2nd most likely for town, but im still not getting a very towny read from him.. hard to explain :p

Sloth i want to think is town, i think hes just a blunt person, he could be the SK, but i highly doubt hes Mafia. Hes been distancing himself too far to be mafia i think

@faraday i assume its either sloth or zedenke

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i dont really know what to say at this point,i guess i can try

Faraday do you believe zedeneks claim? i guess the questions open to everyone

DY what would your suspect list look like (apoligies if you already posted it rather tired and dont want to look back)

thatll do i suppose

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i'm getting a scumvibe from dy, which my last (i think it was my last one at least ) post explained, hes the odd one out. But the whole charter thing makes me kind of believe him.. AHH :\

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faraday, does the charter defense thing hold much weight at all? iyo?

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hmm? i've no idea what you mean.

darthyoshi was saying something about charter confirming him, does that have any weight to it?

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POE?

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nevermind figured it out, process of elimation

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whens the deadline on this day ? i cant find it

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I'm not scum, i dont really know what to say to defend myself after that post as it was pretty convincing :\

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OK, so on the quilford part where i was adding pressure, i NEVER vote for someone unless i think their scum. Yes i was adding pressure, but i also was majorly sus on him

also, i always play like this.

and @the darts thing, i always have reasons, and i feel i can sense scum, i just havent played enough to explain why one situation would mean scum while another would mean town.

and wth? i never said i didnt know what was going on. I said i didnt understand how posting in twilight means you're scum! i knew that he was acting uberscum, i just didnt understand the twilight part.

I feel dy did find that too fast, and farraday said it doesnt have much weight to it, i guess he found it at night while he could talk in the qt.

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honestly darthysohi is my only big scumread atm, and after that post vi seems scum, as you said hes the common scumguy

also, rereading, i kind of get a bad read from ZDerek, but i do believe his vig claim, so i suppose it doesnt make much sense. :\

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ive been talking the whole time

I'm currently re-reading your post setael i really dont know what to think on that, i dont really see the explanation of the connection, i suppose he could be doing what i did in 1085 (latching to a general town read)

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i dont think so @always been? idk im not him. What i meant was, yesterday everyone thought i was town, he could be trying to stay connected to someone considered town? just a thought, i did it in one of my games as scum

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i tried to refute it?

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