Open 302: JUNGLE REPUB nope game over! Party time!

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/confirming with the code 9772

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Oops, forgot about the game. Dammit.

Neil's been posting an awful lot. Empking's been posting an awful lot. I don't think they're both Town (I mean... So much interaction between scum is ridiculous). Neil: What do you

really

think of Empking? I don't really see the massivest case against either of you, and I can't lean either way just yet. I'm inclined to say Empking, but that's probably because of the votes on him. Then I feel like saying you, but can't find heeeeaaaaps of scumminess.

I'm just trying to get a read of your thoughts of your interactions with Empking.


Now, I know it's page 6, but I haven't really posted yet... What do we think of the MafiaSheep? It's not like they can kill us... But it's hard to differentiate between Werewolf-tell and Mafia-tell. I think we should only kill Mafia if we don't have a Werewolf in hand.

Except they still wanna kill us. Hmm... Ack, I don't know. What do you guys think?

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Bloody hell, I sleep, wake up, find this?

Empking and MOI are arguing now. Again, probably not a Town on Town fight.
So either Empking is scum, or Neil and MOI are scum.

OBV MOST PROBABLE CHOICE IS OBV.
VOTE: Empking

He's been arguing like nothing else and it's like he

wants

to be killed. Town doesn't

want

to be killed. Scum don't

want

to be killed, but can sacrifice one of their two (or... three?) to get what they want.

They could've decided last night that Empking would be the scapegoat.
PEdit: Dammit, D1. Never mind.

Actually...

Mod: Did the Mafia and Werewolves get to talk before the game started? Or is that only for each Night?

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Oh come on, can we just lynch Empking so people have a much easier time reading the thread if they leave for

12 hours

?

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Bloody Empking with his bloody arguing that leaves me to get bloody prodded.

2 Scum suspects? I honestly don't know. Pretty much everyone has had a run-in with Empking, so I'd say (currently) the people who haven't, or haven't

very much

are probably scum-worthy.
2 Town choices? The people who have been targeted by Empking the most. They're only kind of high in Towniness, because one may be Mafia while the other is a Werewolf.

He's been arguing like nothing else and it's like he wants to be killed. Town doesn't want to be killed. Scum don't want to be killed, but can sacrifice one of their two (or... three?)

to get what they want

.

What does he want to get in this case?

To win? He wants to have his faction win. If he dies and the others in his faction are "cleared" from his death, he's pretty much won (kind of).

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I never said that he

wouldn't

, rather that he was less likely to.

Read the end of my post, too. I'm fully aware of that possibility.

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I had to choose somebody, and they were the only reads I had. If I didn't mention that they were only weak, then I'll mention it here:

Those suspicions are only weak, but better than anyone else IMO.

PEdit: Read the second half of my Towniness paragraph.

They're only kind of high in Towniness, because one may be Mafia while the other is a Werewolf.

I guess I had to mention bussing to keep you happy, then?

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Claiming Seer... Yeah I don't believe it.

Why claim at L-1? Why not claim when you were at L-2?

Confirm Vote: Empking

Although... Twistedspoon seems very... I dunno, really. It seems kind of like what neil was being accused of - trying to look VI-y, rather than looking scummy.

FoS: Twistedspoon

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Claiming Seer... Yeah I don't believe it.

You think I'm more likely to be a Wolf over Mafia?

Ummm... Does it matter? Both Werewolves and Mafia want the Town dead.
Werewolf have a kill, sure, but there's not really a difference in what they'd do or claim.

Why claim at L-1? Why not claim when you were at L-2?

Because this way we can as good as confirm four-ish of the six people on my wagon are scum.

I... Still don't get that logic. You reckon that out of:

MagnaofIllusion, neil1113, DeityKabuto, cjdrum, HezLucky, Sloth

That you have four of five scum. If someone can give me some clear logic behind this (from a third person perspective), it would be muchly appreciated.
If I agree with it, then I have to be suspicious of MoI, neil, DK, Hez and Sloth... I reckon

out of those five

MoI is the Towniest. I dunno, it's just a gut thing. Which makes...

• neil1113
  
• DeityKabuto
  
• HezLucky
  
• Sloth

scum.

I still don't see how you can jump to that so easily.

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2 Scum suspects? I honestly don't know. Pretty much everyone has had a run-in with Empking, so I'd say (currently) the people who haven't, or haven't very much are probably scum-worthy.
2 Town choices? The people who have been targeted by Empking the most. They're only kind of high in Towniness, because one may be Mafia while the other is a Werewolf.

It looks suspicious how he avoids giving names.

... Okay. Let me get back to you on that, I just need a real computer to work this out. I will get back to this.

To win? He wants to have his faction win. If he dies and the others in his faction are "cleared" from his death, he's pretty much won (kind of).

How would his death clear the others in his faction?

If we assume that more argue-with-Empking people are not in his faction, then him being massive argue wall would

"

clear

"

his scumbuddy/ies (if they were arguing), even if he were to be lynched. Then they'd both/all win. I don't get why you're drawing on this.

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What the frakking frak was the frakking spam wall for, then?

Bloody hell. Bloo-dy hell.

So with the Seer gone, we've only got VTs against the Wolves

and

Mafia?
Bloody hell. Gonna have to do some ISOing.

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Catching up a bit at a time at the moment (bloody timezones), and so I stumbled upon this first:

Werewolves, currently it's 5 v 3 v 2. If we mslynch today, and a VT dies tonight a situation arises where it's almost impossible for you to win therefore it's in your best interests to scumhunt with us today as well as aim for scum if we msylnch.

Actually that's wrong. If we mislynch today, it makes it 4 v 3 v 2, then them killing a Townie makes it 3 v 3 v 2 - which means that if we then lynch anyone but a Werewolf they win that night - because the Town consists of 50% Werewolves and at least one Townie.

If we lynch Mafia (with help of the Werewolves, apparently), then it's 5 v 3 v 1. Then they could kill the remaining Mafia and win, or kill a Townie and be extremely close to winning anyway.

If we lynch a Wolf, it's 5 v 2 v 2, which would be horrible for them - but they just play like scum does well (however that is) and have close to a 50-50 chance of winning.


Besides, in an Open setup with two scum factions, isn't it a given that they'll be looking for the other scum team to gain Town points? I don't understand why this needs to be said.

Anyway, I don't think Regfan is a Werewolf from this - if he were, he could have said it last night before they sent the kill. I just don't know why it needed to be mentioned.

Regfan?

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Hard to get into this game.

Sloth was being difficult and asking me a thousand and one questions on the top of page [number], then has disappeared to [place]. I don't get why a Townie would... Do that. At all.

VOTE: Sloth


LMP: If Sloth is obvscum with zMuffinMan as obvpartner, why is zMM stuck directly in the middle?

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CJ’s last post was Tuesday where he hopped on Sloth for posting elsewhere on site and not posting here.

I never did this.

Regardless I’ll make you a deal – support the CJ wagon today and I’ll back you on Sloth tomorrow. Sound good?

You said that in the scummiest way possible, Magna. I'm going to end the day so you don't do anything else so stupid.

vote: cjdrum

You're welcome.

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Well that was fun. Reading all your comments about "This person attacked cj" and "This person and cj are so totally partners", and all that.

Sucks that nobody ended up following that little *cough*extremely obviously fake*cough* throw at MoI in my last post.
I had no idea if it would work, leaning not - and whadaya know?