Mini 1167 - iPod Mafia - Game Over

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congratulations on the new tittle MOI
congratulations on being scum Fate

Vote:Fate

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I don't get wtf you guys are saying but LLD is obv town. Glass and GreyIce is scummy as hell for the speculation. A bonus for Glass for his reconciling tone.

Unvote.Vote:Glass

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AGar, are you playing this game or are you not?

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congratulations on the new tittle MOI
congratulations on being scum Fate

Vote:Fate

I don't get wtf you guys are saying but LLD is obv town. Glass and GreyIce is scummy as hell for the speculation. A bonus for Glass for his reconciling tone.

Unvote.Vote:Glass

AGar, are you playing this game or are you not?

AGar, are you playing this game or are you not?

AGar, are you playing this game or are you not?

AGar, are you playing this game or are you not?

AGar, are you playing this game or are you not?

AGar, are you playing this game or are you not?

lol

Unvote

Vote: NoPoint

scummy as fuk

Unvote.Vote:GreyIce

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OMGUS?

Eh...forgot to ask one thing. Nopoint, why are you voting GreyICE?

GreyIce, guilty of first degree role-name speculation, cluttering the thread with WIFOM and useless stuff that doesn't even make sense. The suspect then proceed to resist authority (nopoint ^^), causing serious collateral damage to the transparancy of the thread and its denizens.

Unvote

Vote: Thadmiral

DoubleVote: No Point

Wishy washy double vote just after I expressed suspicion of him. He is aware that the authority is onto his ass, but tries his best not to over-commit.

congratulations on the new tittle MOI
congratulations on being scum Fate

Vote:Fate

I don't get wtf you guys are saying but LLD is obv town. Glass and GreyIce is scummy as hell for the speculation. A bonus for Glass for his reconciling tone.

Unvote.Vote:Glass

AGar, are you playing this game or are you not?

AGar, are you playing this game or are you not?

AGar, are you playing this game or are you not?

AGar, are you playing this game or are you not?

AGar, are you playing this game or are you not?

AGar, are you playing this game or are you not?

lol

Unvote

Vote: NoPoint

But then he flies.

4 PAGES ALREADY ZOMG WHAT THE FUCK SLOW DOWN YOU SPAMPOSTERS

VOTE: GREYICE

DAMMIT NOOBLAR YOU'RE MOST LIKELY TOWN BECAUSE NEITHER NOPOINT OR THAD COMMENTED ON YOUR L-3 WAGON AND AT LEAST ONE IS SCUM.

SO DO SOMETHING USEFUL WITH THAT VOTE.

LOL this is GOLD, glittering sparkling GOLD. You placed the last vote on the wagon and made the RVS wagon an "L-3 wagon". Now you're complaining about how people never commented on your scummy vote? Thanks for giving me more reason to think you are scummy scum scum.

Glass is a large possibility as Grey's partner-in-crime, as his post cahooting GI into speculation really doesn't have the vigilance of a town.

Well, I am a rock-rap blend so it is possible. Is anyone NOT rock?

He replied to GreyIce with no trace of questioning GI's role speculation.

TheAdmiral is just asking too many questions, he's lynchbait.

I'm fine with pressuring Glass tho I like GI's blood better. Ahhhh

Unvote.Vote:Glass

People should either be jumping on either Glass or GI

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FATE GI LOOKS BAD AND ALL BUT YOU REALLY SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT SURYESCUM.

I'm curious.

Why do I look bad?

Woo and look at this.
Dammit you guys are just soooo scummy >"<

Unvote.Vote:GreyIce
Unvote.Vote:Glass
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Unvote.Vote:Glass

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ahh getting desperate and calling for help my scummy little friend. Excessive buddying, check.

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FUCK.

RIGHT.

THAT LURKY BASTARD.

GOT DISTRACTED BY GLASS!SCUM

FATE, LOOK AT SURYE'S FIRST POST.

HE PRACTICALLY CLAIMS SCUM.

How so?

Dunno about his first post, but his LAST one is an epic BW vote.

How so 2?

Unvote. Vote:Surye

His case on GreyICE is scummy. Grey's song claim actually generated useful content.

The only useful thing 5 pages of fluffs generate is a caught scum

AGar, are you playing this game or are you not?

What gives you the impression I'm not.

Your first 4 posts had nothing in it, despite there are plenty of things happening.

Sorry guys, friday was crazy.

Wishy washy double vote just after I expressed suspicion of him.He is aware that the authority is onto his ass, but tries his best not to over-commit.

Unvote.Vote:GreyIce
Unvote.Vote:Glass
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Unvote.Vote:Glass

O_o

There's no authority on my ass cuz I'm the authority. Are you concerned that I voted you over Ice? If so why not ask for a reason?

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nopoint what do you think about surye?

Same to you, crazypi.

I don't think anything of him. His #128 post shows that he's taking a clear stance and provide reasons for it, which is at least slightly townish to me.

I think he's asking: why would you call something a "wishy washy double vote" and then vote two different players yourself? Isn't that just as wishy washy?

I supposed it's a bit. But his has a clear motivation, while I just didn't know who to vote becuz both GI and Glass has scummy points of their own. What I'm concerned about was Glass' 2nd post sheeping GI role speculation. His non-chalance makes it very scummy, but if that's the case then GI would probably be town ( who would sheep their scumbuddy in a non-chalant way? )

I thought that nopoint's case on GreyIce was crap which is why I voted him. Sorry if you misinterpreted. In class now, will post more later.

Speak. Now.

AGar 173
Ahh finally feels like you. TheAdmiral, who is scum?

Lol. GI lost that argument, totally.

"Dream On" - Epic Cover Rock
Funktastic Rock
Southern Artistic Rock
Rock-Rap Hybrid
"My Soul, Your Beats"

Quick, use your magic and divine something interesting that scum would definitely want to know from this information. If you can figure out concrete information scum would like to have here, then tell me and I'll self-vote and you can lynch me out of the thread.

Because if it doesn't exist, then you're FOSing me based on hypothetical magic.

This post is really scummy. It makes me feel like GI knows Surye is town and is challenging him. The argument GI makes by itself is flawed. Information is still information. Scum has more than town and they can utilize it better. The fact that you are acting you know scums cannot derive anything from this information can only be explained by the fact that you are scum.

Surye is town. Why don't you all get the fuck off his wagon. He does not look like the type to claim a gravedigger.

Katsuki: So .. your reason is based on Fate, who literally hasn't done anything the whole game?

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Fixed.

This post is really scummy. It makes me feel like GI knows Surye is town and is challenging him. The argument GI makes by itself is flawed. Information is still information. Scum has more than town and they can utilize it better. The fact that you are acting you know scums cannot derive anything from this information

atm

can only be explained by the fact that you are scum.

Unvote.
Vote:GreyIce

Calling me dumb won't be an appropriate response to my argument thank you.

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Hmm just realized that I missed the interesting part. I don't see a scumslip from Katsuki

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What was this "clear motivation" again? I see no reason that Grey didn't just want to vote both players.

It was when I expressed suspicion of him. His motivation then would be OGMUS, not because he truly thinks I'm scum.

My picks as of now would be:
Glass
RBT
CrazyPianist

Hmm why RBT and CrazyPianist? They haven't posted much.

Unvote

Vote: Raivann

This one Fate. Katsuki can live one day.

Lol. After the Katsuki shit, you forgot you are supposed to be after me? What makes you change your opinion on Katsuki and why Raivann?

What katsuki has been saying rubs me the wrong way, it seems to me like she is saying whatever she has to to get Surye lynched (saying she has never seen a gravedigger in a mini before to saying that it is a scum ability with really no basis), but where is the scumslip fate and LLD mentioned?

There are many players who's been saying whatever he/she has to to get Surye lynched. What makes Katsuki stand out?

A question to both of you: Since you apparently think surye is not the type of scum to claim gravedigger, what is the type to claim gravedigger?

Someone less straightforward. And I suppose if scum claims a gravedigger, he would be overflowing the thread with remarks instead of one liners like Surye ( the motivation for which scum would claim a role like a gravedigger would be to notify town of his importance so town would not lynch him. Those kinds of notifications are usually verbose )

@LLD: Are you actually alignment confirmed masons, as Kats said earlier?

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Hey, I'm just trying to make it abundantly clear if it is true or false.

And what protown reason would there be for finding out if they're truly masons?

xD

ThAd, meanwhile has been acting strangely. Opening with lots of jokes and next to no content, he moves to buddying up to Surye. When Surye claims, he automatically writes it off as town, because Surye "wouldn't claim gravedigger [as scum]." (I finally figured out what the fuck those brackets mean in articles /facepalm.) He is then asked "Who would claim gravedigger as scum?" to which he responds "Gambitting people."

Really? Uhhhhh... no.

Scum claiming gravedigger is a high-risk, low-reward gambit. Too much can go wrong with a grave-digger gambit. His claim should be fairly provable in the future. A scum-gravedigger is uh... brutally OP would be the best wording I have? "Here scumbag, have all these town powers I put in to combat your team." Doc? Great pickup. Watcher? Excellent pickup. Vig? If the mod allows it, wicked pickup. Roleblock/Jailkeep? Nice pickup.

Vote Thad. Best choice. Hands down.

Agree with your 1st part (joke, no content). But the 2nd part is a stretch.

UNVOTE, VOTE: LLD

OGMUS much? Can you respond to her arguments?

Vote:LLD

FUCK NO

? What about LLD's case that was terrible or Kats' response that was compelling to you? You forgot to Unvote btw.

Fate looks town in the last post, though I don't necessarily buy her case.

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That wasn't a gambit... it was reaction fishing. If not one but TWO people sasy you scumslipped...the pressures immense. It made kats post a sadface and give up for a lil bit.

The thing about Fate's case I see most valid is in this post. Kat's sadface does look very scummish.

However, Glass's defense for Kats look more than scum trying to be off a town lynch. It's a little too over enthusiastic to be scum-scum. I'm more confident on Glass or GI but I don't think the deadline would allow me to push for them. Kats, claim NAO, I express intent to hammer.

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Wtf are you guys doing? Hammering without a claim when Kats promised content tomorrow?? ThAd just run straight up my scum list with that

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Agreed with Fate's plan
Glass is 200% scum flaking out. Apology to GI for misreading you but at least I was right about Glass

Vote:Glass

@Mod: VLA till the end of this week please. Work + exam x)

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Vote:Fate

Fate visited bvoigt last night, I received a 1-shot track on N1, missed Night 2 becuz I was on VLA and used it on Fate last night becuz I was suspicious of the way he boasts his achievements. I think he's likely SK. Congratulations again for being scum

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Agreed
I wanna rock by Twisted Sister - Second Tier Make Up Rock (VT)

I want Fate to go next. Fate cannot take account for his actions, he'll most likely go gunghoo on me but a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do

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N1:

In addition, I received a gift from someone on N1. I was given a Top 40 chart. During a night phase, I can use the ability to see how many anti-town players were on a day's lynch.

N2:

Someone gave me a gun, 1shot vig here. Chance of NK to frame you agar at this point is silly. Agar gets lunches today. No more mafia rb, so I can vig unblocked. CP? Think there is an SK? Or does a vig want to take credit?

I saw that too. Apparently AGar was gambitting to be saved or it's a mod driven JOAT mechanics. I received my gift track shot N1 and used it on Fate.

First, our cop was de-rezzed, which suggests that there is indeed an SK and not a Vig. Then, the fact that neither the scum nor the SK killed Fate is incriminating by itself. In fact, N2 scum kill missing despite wrong roleblock suggests scum tried to kill Fate-looking-pro-town ( doctor has already died ) and still failed becuz Fate is probably bulletproof SK. Fate's scum lynching streak then taunting of GI and AGar also fits an SK. The track was my conclusive piece of evidence. Please lynch Fate or there's no way town can win this game. Fate apparently says I'm an SK. If Fate flip town or scum, just brand me an SK and auto lynch me because there's no way that is the case.

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So now I'm scum in your opinion? Does that mean you admit yourself to be an SK?

Pre-edit: It's preposterous for scum to waste a NK just to frame AGar when they didn't even know at that point whether AGar is a power role or not.

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Fate, if I'm scum/SK what the fuck is my motivation for claiming a track on you? The most feasible way for town to win at this point is to lynch both the scum and the SK on the next lynches, thus I will lynch you the confirmed SK today.

pre-edit: Like I said Fate. If you flip either scum or town, town can auto lynch me tomorrow for being an asshole. but it's not going to happen.

pre-edit 2: It only takes a bit of logical thinking and creativity to understand scum's mindset. And NO. You fucked up big time today my friend

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DO YOU THINK INVENTORS GIVE TWO INVENTIONS A NIGHT?
DO YOU THINK AGAR LIED FOR NO REASON AS TOWN?

Knowing Magna I don't think either of this is a stretch. AGar's situation and his confidence in his own ability might have encouraged him to lie.

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And Fate, are you seriously saying I'm scum with a QT with an SK? Does your photographic memory recall the scum neighborizer is dead?

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that's what I thought. Please hammer Fate

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Fate just can't stand that he got caught. But he is smart and has a mouth in trying to get through shit. You're right I can't explain exactly why AGar had a claim to have received a gift, but the fact is that Fate is SK who visited bvoight yesterday ( note that he never denied such a thing in his later arguments ). If I'm an SK or scum, forcing a Prisoner's Dilemma is stupid, especially if it means a bunch of fakeclaims. Fate-SK is going down today.

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It was a direct response to my accusation "Fate visitted bvoigt". You never brought it up again in your arguments and I'd have expected someone like you to have. Instead you accuse me of "forcing a Prisoner's Dilemma" by trying to lynch FATE, the MOST PROTOWN, OUTSPOKEN AND REPUTABLE PLAYER so far in the game. No I did not choose you because you are convenient to lynch Fate. I chose to Track you because I really think you are SK.

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SK who visited bvoight yesterday.

Wooo, scum claim. Why is SK derezz and scum corrupted? (my 1shot vig deleted). I see no evidence you should know this as town.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD THERE BE NO CORRUPTION ON N2??

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FINALLY ANOTHER TOWNSPERSON HAS ARRIVED.

Suyre, both scum have claimed in thread.

Easiest town win ever. NOW we just have to wait for ThAd

Surye. Fate is toying with your mind. The fact that he keep insisting that both scum is in the thread is planning for his Prisoner's Dilemma if I get lynched.

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... Surye is town. Are you scum RBT?

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It has been natural to me since Night 1 kills that Corrupt is the version of scum kill since LLD was killed when Katscum flipped.

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obviously de-rezzed before corrupted, according to Magna

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Lol at Fate for accusing someone who has a brain. I guess that's what you'd prefer, brainless townies who would follow you only to be gutted by you in the end.

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*Sigh*

I'm the mafia godfather.
Well played Fate but you won't have this game still.

Daykill:Fate

If it doesn't work because I'm dead or he is bulletproof, lynch Fate tomorrow. He is the SK 100% regardless of what he claims. I shot him on N2 with a futile result. Trust me on this. I'm dead and no longer have a wincon.

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Fate will not die tonight obviously. Then there's still 2 of you left to lynch anything unless Magna has shit up his sleeves @@. Don't believe in Fate. Bulletproof is imba as fuck with this many PR already.

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Glass shot you N2.
I actually have a DayVig shot, so if I got you lynched today, I would have won comes LYLO.
Regardless, SK is likely to have power and what better than bulletproof, with you bulletproof there is 2 bulletproof?? Can't fight your way out of this one my friend.

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Becuz the SK killed the cop, who can detect him. Scum flavor is corrupted.

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Oops. Yeah I shot you N2 Fate. GreyIce would have innocent on me so I don't mind him. Surye aint cool 'nough

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I only have 1 DayVig shot, it is flavored "DayKill:X" and it defer my following night kill ( great use for LYLO ). The roleblocker can't block a person on consecutive nights. It's not so imba that it requires a bulletproof Fatey =P

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No. I was sure you are the SK. That was just so I can push the mafia tittle to RBT when I need (=

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BRAINNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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RBT plays like this regardless of his alignment you fucks. It's not a indicator of whether he's town or scum.
As for you Fate, you lucked out because ThAdmiral wasn't even paying attention to the game, believing in a town BP when there's a town COP, town DOC, town JOAT, town GRAVEDIGGER AND an SK, DESPITE the fact that he was told you were the SK by a Dead player. HAD he played competently and lynched you, you wouldn't be white-knighting him would you?

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@nopoint
It was poor form to tell town that fate was SK though.

It's either that or suffer a lynch + NK chance. Admittedly my claim was bad but i didn't want to claim 1 shot tracker because of the number of PRs already revealed. I didn't know people believed in OP PR numbers these days.

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And even if I survived to LYLO, how would I know if Fate can survive my DayVig when he SURVIVED my NightVig?

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Considering the town still manages to mislynch, I see nothing wrong with wanting the town to win.

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hateful or critical, set-up outguessing or set-up deducing, Spiteful scum or biased judgement. There's a fine line between them. But whatever, history is written by the winner. So yeah, congratulations Fate, on being SK and won

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Is that an apology?

Unless you explain what GAME related reasons you had for outing our scum info podsthammer, then I will consider myself RIGHT that you just did out of spite or whatever, and that it was INDEED poor form.

The Game related reason is that you were the lyncher of all 3 scum, shouldn't that be 'nuff? So I congratulate you on winning.

Sooooo I wasn't keeping track of this game that closely so maybe there was a reason this didn't happen, but @NOPOINT - Why the fuck did you not claim one-shot Dayvig and then PROVE IT IN THE THE FUCKING THREAD? That was the COUP DE GRACE of the godfather role ... and you used it to fire a blank shot into a SK you knew was bulletproof.

Why?

WHY?

1st. My DayVig has a

DayKill: AGM

flavor, which is easily interpretted into ScumVig.
2nd. I speculated on an SK since the start. had I been confirmed town in anyway, I would have been considerably more likely to be killed by the SK.
3rd. If I use my DayKill, I'm abstained from my NightKill. So optionally I want to use it on LYLO.

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*optimally

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I agreed that my gambit was horribly executed. But I think making moves to dispose of the SK was the right thing to do. I didn't expect ThAd would hammer me right away considering what he had been saying about Fate.
Moreover, the point of being confirmed town is that you get killed by the SK, easily, just like GI and Surye.
@GI: Again, people are not supposed to act townish if they are GF. How right you are just turned to how wrong you are with that kind of hindsight.
@Fate: I won't apologize for what I'm allowed to do. You can go cry or whatever

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I've outed you way before I had lost.
And yes, it justifies a lot of things.