Mini 1167 - iPod Mafia - Game Over

[MagnaofIllusion]

Vote Count 1.6- As of post 175

Fate (0) -
bvoigt (0) -
Katsuki (0) -
Agar (0) -
Lady Lambdadelta (0) -
crazypianist1116 (1) - Riceballtail
Surye (4) - Lady Lambdadelta, Katsuki, Fate, Raivann
ThAdmiral (2) - Agar, bvoigt
Riceballtail (0) -
Glass (2) - ThAdmiral, nopointinactingup
Nopointinactingup (3) - GreyICE, Glass, Crazypianist1116
GreyIce (1) - Surye
Raivann (0) -

Not Voting (0) -

The Current deadline is May 18th at 9am EST. The Countdown can be found HERE

With 13 alive - 7 are required to lynch.

Activity Check - All necessary prods have been sent. Surye is on the clock for replacement.

[Katsuki]

Surye could be a decent lynch I suppose, but I think NoPoint is just worse.

I'm fairly sure the scumteam is actually getting wagoned at the moment and are just lurking to hope the wagons go away.

Being prodded then saying this gives me bad vibes, GI...

Then again, suryescum is flaking due to being wagoned as scum, so I guess you have a point.

[GreyICE]

Honestly Kats, nothing interesting is happening. I've tried. They can't even get a good wagon together for me for 'rolefishing' (because the rock-rap hybrid is clearly... uh...) which I figured would have been rolling full steam.

LLD is always this paranoid about claiming any piece of our roles, so it's neutral, but the rest is just plain scummy.

[Katsuki]

Heres a piece of advice; vote suyreflakescum.

[GreyICE]

Heres a piece of advice; vote suyreflakescum.

Fine.

Can we lynch NoPoint after? You can't tell me he's town.

Vote: Surye

[GreyICE]

Unvote

Vote: Surye

[Surye]

Uhhh, sorry, forgot to post my V/LA in this thread, but it is in my sig. I picked up the prod on my phone but could not post from it on the road.

[Surye]

I see NO case on me. I have nothing to respond to, yet I am the biggest wagon? Who's leading all of you? Oh, ALL CAPS POSTS turn you all into sheep.

[GreyICE]

I see NO case on me. I have nothing to respond to, yet I am the biggest wagon? Who's leading all of you? Oh, ALL CAPS POSTS turn you all into sheep.

Well lets see. You voted for me for rolefishing after

your own analysis

concluded that the town wouldn't give up any useful information by giving out what I was asking about. So basically you quoted a bunch of stuff, concluded it wouldn't hurt the town because there is really no discernible connection between genre and roles (which is what I suspected anyway), and then voted me.

Also your commentary on the Fate wagon was loltastic.

And this post is terribad.

[Surye]

I see NO case on me. I have nothing to respond to, yet I am the biggest wagon? Who's leading all of you? Oh, ALL CAPS POSTS turn you all into sheep.

Well lets see. You voted for me for rolefishing after

your own analysis

concluded that the town wouldn't give up any useful information by giving out what I was asking about. So basically you quoted a bunch of stuff, concluded it wouldn't hurt the town because there is really no discernible connection between genre and roles (which is what I suspected anyway), and then voted me.

Just because I think there's no connection doesn't mean you weren't scummy for pushing hard for it while trying to pretend like you didn't really care.

Also your commentary on the Fate wagon was loltastic.

From page 1? Loooool. Lets take page 1 that serious.

[GreyICE]

You'd be surprised how many scum are caught in the early parts of the game.

As for me being scummy... what's the scum motive for pushing a claim that doesn't hurt the town?

[Glass]

Hey guys, sorry about being gone (been busy with exams and whatnot), the good news is that I am mostly in the clear so starting tomorrow I will be back at my regular content levels.

@Surye
Do you think that there is scum on your wagon? If so, who do you think it is?

Catching up now...

[Glass]

And ICE, I think what surye is saying is that you were pushing it but trying to make it look as though you did not really care one way or the other.

[Glass]

Surye could be a decent lynch I suppose, but I think NoPoint is just worse.

I'm fairly sure the scumteam is actually getting wagoned at the moment and are just lurking to hope the wagons go away.

I can pretty much agree, but it's still WIFOM.

Come onnnnn, you lurk through the game and then come in just to say "WIFOM!"? Honestly. The issue is that 99% of the game is lurkers, so getting a read is bloody difficult. People such as RBT, CP, Raivann, Bvoigt, Fate (oh god, did I just say that?) really need to start posting more.

Someone I am looking into is ThAd, who is really active lurking. Looking through his ISO, the only thing he has done is attacked me because... Some random sheeping that he hasn't built on or continued to attack me, or pressure me, or really anything outside of making some offhand jokes and irrelevant comments.

Surye... I don't know what the hell to think of him. I had a gut town read on him for quite a bit, and I hadn't seen much scummy from him (I actually don't see how his comment on the fate wagon was scummy) until post 184 where he said he thought ICE is scummy for pushing something he allegedly did not care about but he does not mention that at all in his case.

[GreyICE]

I won't argue about how much or how little I care about it, since that's a generally silly argument that will get us nowhere.

"I didn't care about it much I wanted to get discussion going and see who would attack me for fishing."
"Well you kept mentioning it!"
"Yeah, because the discussion was just three or four people talking in a circle and I wanted to see exactly who would grab on."
"Well you must care about it a lot then!"
"I care about catching scum a lot..."

And so on and so forth.

I'll just ask this - if genre/song claiming (and I really only was asking genre, specifically types of Rock) isn't bad for the town, why would scum ask about it? If scum don't learn anything, why am I scummy for suggesting it? If there's no scum motive for me doing it... why are you voting for me?

[Surye]

I'll just ask this - if genre/song claiming (and I really only was asking genre, specifically types of Rock) isn't bad for the town, why would scum ask about it? If scum don't learn anything, why am I scummy for suggesting it? If there's no scum motive for me doing it... why are you voting for me?

Where did I say "scum don't learn anything" or "isn't bad for the town"?

I said:

And his role name confirmation, assuming that's what MoI did, doesn't really tell us much. As we still don't have a clear connection between alignment and role flavor.

Which is to say, we as town don't have a clear connection, that does not mean that scum does not. I don't see how you got that it "isn't bad for the town" or "scum don't learn anything". If anything, saying there's no clear connection, and that your ambivalent push for role information, is showing that I think it's not in towns interest, speculation is not in towns best interest, and you're twisting my words like crazy to justify a vote.

[Glass]

DAMMIT SURYE DONT IGNORE MY QUESTION!

I shall ask once more:
Do you think anyone on your wagon is scum? If so, who?

[GreyICE]

It doesn't tell us anything seems to me to be pretty clear that it... doesn't tell us anything.

But pray tell, demonstrate that I'm wrong. Explain what it might tell the scum.

"Dream On" - Epic Cover Rock
Funktastic Rock
Southern Artistic Rock
Rock-Rap Hybrid
"My Soul, Your Beats"

Quick, use your magic and divine something interesting that scum would definitely want to know from this information. If you can figure out concrete information scum would like to have here, then tell me and I'll self-vote and you can lynch me out of the thread.

Because if it doesn't exist, then you're FOSing me based on hypothetical magic.

[Surye]

DAMMIT SURYE DONT IGNORE MY QUESTION!

I shall ask once more:
Do you think anyone on your wagon is scum? If so, who?

Still catching up from my V/LA! I'll get to you

[Surye]

It doesn't tell us anything seems to me to be pretty clear that it... doesn't tell us anything.

But pray tell, demonstrate that I'm wrong. Explain what it might tell the scum.

"Dream On" - Epic Cover Rock
Funktastic Rock
Southern Artistic Rock
Rock-Rap Hybrid
"My Soul, Your Beats"

Quick, use your magic and divine something interesting that scum would definitely want to know from this information. If you can figure out concrete information scum would like to have here, then tell me and I'll self-vote and you can lynch me out of the thread.

Because if it doesn't exist, then you're FOSing me based on hypothetical magic.

Scum have shared information town does not. The fact that you KNOW this won't help, and won't even entertain the idea, are using it as a crusade against me, and say scummy things like "I'll self-vote" tells me your level of confidence can only come from information. And your push for something you are now running me up the flagpole with in TONS of your posts in this game is all the more scummy. I love my vote right now.

Glass, I'd say GI is probably the most outwardly scummy on my wagon. And he took his time getting on there till I showed some apperent "flaky"ness even though my sig has shown V/LA in Las Vegas all weekend.

[AGar]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Surye

Recent flurry of posting after the wagon looks to take some form is ugly as fuck. V/LA ended the 8th, it is now the 10th. You went the entirety of the 9th without posting. Now he's blaming inactivity on the V/LA. That ended on the 8th. What happened the 9th?

Back-and-forth overall on the genre-claiming is ugly, and one of the cheaper-tricks in the book (He wants to claim something? He must be scum!), and he's actually just waffled on the issue wherever it's been convenient for him.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Surye

[AGar]

Oh whoops. Oh well, MoI can't miss that one.

[Surye]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Surye

Recent flurry of posting after the wagon looks to take some form is ugly as fuck. V/LA ended the 8th, it is now the 10th. You went the entirety of the 9th without posting. Now he's blaming inactivity on the V/LA. That ended on the 8th. What happened the 9th?

Back-and-forth overall on the genre-claiming is ugly, and one of the cheaper-tricks in the book (He wants to claim something? He must be scum!), and he's actually just waffled on the issue wherever it's been convenient for him.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Surye

I'm sorry my vacation plans didn't coincide exactly with my V/LA, I will make sure we don't run late for you next time. Try something more substantial that attacking my V/LA. 1 day is nothing.

[GreyICE]

Scum have shared information town does not. The fact that you KNOW this won't help, and won't even entertain the idea, are using it as a crusade against me, and say scummy things like "I'll self-vote" tells me your level of confidence can only come from information. And your push for something you are now running me up the flagpole with in TONS of your posts in this game is all the more scummy. I love my vote right now.

Glass, I'd say GI is probably the most outwardly scummy on my wagon. And he took his time getting on there till I showed some apperent "flaky"ness even though my sig has shown V/LA in Las Vegas all weekend.

So I

know for a fact

that there's no information that you can glean about the roles or powers of the town by which genre of rock they are?

But there also is information I, as scum, can glean from a genre claim?

And I'm scummy for pointing out that you have no reason that you can articulate to think I'm scummy.

Classic.

[Surye]

Your twisting of words is pretty transparent, btw.