Speed Mafia (Game Over, who won?)

[Patrick]

Mod

: Patrick

Backup

: Hoopla

Welcome to Speed Mafia. This game is completely normal, a standard semi-open setup, apart from the break neck speed at which it'll be played. Hold on tight, and expect to be hated forever if you flake (<.<)

Alive

(2/18)

3) Amrun - Vanilla Townie - Survived
6) Juls - Vanilla Townie - Survived

Dead

(16/18)

12) Haylen - Vanilla Townie - lynched day 1

15) Katsuki - Mafia Goon - lynched day 2

1) The Mask - Jailkeeper - killed night 2

13) Magister Ludi - Mafia Goon - lynched day 3

4) Benmage - Tracker - killed night 3

2) populartajo - Vanilla Townie - lynched day 4

8) CrimpingNoofball - Rolecop - killed night 4

18) evilpacman18 - Vanilla Townie - lynched day 5

16) AlmasterGM - Vanilla Townie - killed night 5

9) C-Worl (replacing WingDamage9001) - Mafia Goon - lynched day 6

14) SpyreX - Tracker - killed night 6

11) Sathoris - Vanilla Townie - lynched day 7

17) Cobblerfone - Vanilla Townie - killed night 7

7) kanyeknowsbest - Vanilla Townie - lynched day 8

5) Lowell - Vanilla Townie - killed night 8

10) xRECKONERx - Mafia Encryptor - lynched day 9

Game status: Game over

[Patrick]

Standard Rules

1.) This game is a day start. Day 1 will start when everyone has confirmed to me by PM.
2.) During the day you can vote for a player that you think should be lynched. Votes should be in the form

Vote: Player

, but I'll count votes if the intention is clear and there's bolding/some attempt at bolding. Unvotes before registering a new vote are helpful but not required. Note that any attempts at fake votes will be frowned on, and most likely counted anyway. Don't try it.
3.) When a player reaches a majority of votes, they are lynched. I will reveal their role, and the game will move into night. Players can still talk during twilight.
4.) Every day will be deadlined at 96 hours, with no majority meaning no-lynch. If the town has time to spare at the end of a day, that time gets added onto the next day, rounded to the nearest hour.
5.) No talking to other players, dead or alive, outside of the thread, unless your role permits it.
6.) Once dead, you stop posting. A bah post is fine though.
7.) If you have any questions, feel free to PM me.
8.) This being a speed game, anyone not posting in 24 hours will be prodded, with possibly leniency shown for weekends. If you get prodded you must respond in thread in a timely fashion, failure to do so will get you replaced. Being prodded 3 times over the course of the game may also result in replacement, depending on how hard it is to get someone. If you anticipate being away, send me a PM.
9.) I'll try to post votecounts as often as possible. Feel free to ask for a votecount at any time. Disappointingly, I may make mistakes. Point them out very gently. Since the game might move fast while I'm sleeping or at work, feel free to do your own votecounts if it helps.
10.) Avoid excessive profanity, flaming etc.
11.) Don't quote or fakequote your role PM. Don't quote any PMs from the mod. Don't reference ongoing games. Any of these are potentially modkillable offences.
12.) Have fun!

[Patrick]

Game Setup

The setup of this game is semi-open, a game with 4 mafia members playing against 14 protown players. Here is a list of all the possible roles:

Mafia Roles

You are a Mafia Godfather, along with X, Y and Z. Your connections in high places mean that any investigations into your affairs will come up blank; to any rolecop you'll show up as a vanilla townie. Each night you may choose if you wish to be "immune" to either or both of weak doctor or hider, this means if any such role targets you they will survive. Each night you and your partners can talk and choose one of your number to kill someone within the town. Please use this quicktopic for all mafia communication: XXX.

You win when the town no longer has the majority.

You are a Mafia Roleblocker, along with your partners X, Y and Z. Each night you can choose to roleblock another player in the game; they won't be able to take any actions that night. Each night you and your partners can talk and choose one of your number to kill someone within the town. Please use this quicktopic for all mafia communication: XXX.

You win when the town no longer has the majority.

You are a Mafia Rolecop, along with your partners X, Y and Z. Each night you may investigate a member of the town and find out their profession; in game terms this means I'll tell you their role. Each night you and your partners can talk and choose one of your number to kill someone within the town. Please use this quicktopic for all mafia communication: XXX.

You win when the town no longer has the majority.

You are a Mafia Weakling, along with your partners X, Y and Z. Each night you and your partners can talk and choose one of your number to kill someone within the town. Please use this quicktopic for all mafia communication: XXX. Unfortunately you're less hardened then your fellow mafiates. You can perform nightkills if you have their morale support, but if all your partners die, you will be unable to continue and will surrender to the town.

You win when the town no longer has the majority.

You are a Mafia Encryptor, along with X, Y and Z. Your skills in secret communication mean that as long as you live, your team is allowed to communicate by day as well as night. Each night you and your partners can talk and choose one of your number to kill someone within the town. Please use this quicktopic for all mafia communication: XXX.

You win when the town no longer has the majority.

You are a Mafia Goon, along with your partners X, Y and Z. Each night you and your partners can talk and choose one of your number to kill someone within the town. Please use this quicktopic for all mafia communication: XXX.

You win when the town no longer has the majority.

Town Roles

You are a Rolecop. Each night you may investigate another player and find out their role. You don't find out their alignment. If you investigate a Mafia Goon (or a Mafia Godfather), you will get the result that they're vanilla.

You win when the mafia has been eliminated.

You are a Tracker. Each night you may track another player, and I will tell you whether or not they took a night-action. If they did, I'll also tell you who they targetted.

You win when the mafia has been eliminated.

You are a Doctor. Each night you can protect another player; all kills against them that night will fail. You may not protect yourself.

You win when the mafia has been eliminated.

You are a Weak Doctor. Each night you can protect another player; all kills against them that night will fail. If you protect a member of the mafia, they will kill you. You may not protect yourself.

You win when the mafia has been eliminated.

You are a Roleblocker. Each night you can roleblock another player, rendering them unable to take any action that night.

You win when the mafia has been eliminated.

You are a Supersaint. You have no night-actions, but if anyone places a lynching vote on you, they will die as well.

You win when the mafia has been eliminated.

You are a Hider. Each night you may choose to hide with another player if wish. If you do, all nightkills targetted at you will fail. If your target gets nightkilled, you will die with them. If your target is a member of the mafia, they will kill you.

You win when the mafia has been eliminated.

You are a Jailkeeper. Each night you may jailkeep another player, they will be both protected from nightkills and roleblocked that night. You may not jailkeep yourself.

You win when the mafia has been eliminated.

You are a vanilla townie. You have no abilities other than your voice and your vote, which you should use during the day to hunt down and destroy the mafia.

You win when the mafia has been eliminated.

1) Anything not on this list doesn't appear in the game
2) No role is guaranteed to be in the game, aside from vanilla townie
3) Any role can appear twice or more
4) A mafia member cannot perform a nightkill and another action on the same night

[Patrick]

All roles are out, please confirm to me by PM. The mafia can talk during the pregame stage.

[Patrick]

Day 1 begins, with the deadline hitting on the 16th of May at 1:30 am GMT. With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Katsuki (7) -- Juls, xRECKONERx, Benmage, SpyreX, AlmasterGM, Amrun, The Mask
Juls (1) -- WingDamage9001
AlmasterGM (1) -- Katsuki
SpyreX (2) -- kanyeknowsbest, Haylen
evilpacman18 (1) -- CrimpingNoofball
kanyeknowsbest (1) -- Magister Ludi
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris

Not voting: Cobblerfone, populartajo, Lowell, evilpacman18
18 alive, 10 to lynch.

Poking the non-posters now.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Katsuki (8) -- Juls, xRECKONERx, Benmage, SpyreX, AlmasterGM, Amrun, The Mask, populartajo
Juls (1) -- WingDamage9001
AlmasterGM (1) -- Katsuki
SpyreX (2) -- kanyeknowsbest, Haylen
evilpacman18 (1) -- CrimpingNoofball
kanyeknowsbest (1) -- Magister Ludi
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris

Not voting: Cobblerfone, Lowell, evilpacman18
18 alive, 10 to lynch.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Katsuki (8) -- Juls, xRECKONERx, SpyreX, AlmasterGM, The Mask, populartajo, evilpacman18, Benmage
Juls (1) -- WingDamage9001
AlmasterGM (1) -- Katsuki
SpyreX (3) -- kanyeknowsbest, Haylen, Cobblerfone
evilpacman18 (1) -- CrimpingNoofball
kanyeknowsbest (2) -- Magister Ludi, Amrun
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris

Not voting: Lowell
18 alive, 10 to lynch.

[Patrick]

Quickly sneaking on from work, don't have time to votecount, but in answer to the question, nights are deadlined at 48 hours.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Katsuki (8) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, AlmasterGM, The Mask, populartajo, evilpacman18, Benmage, Lowell
Juls (1) -- WingDamage9001
AlmasterGM (1) -- Katsuki
SpyreX (1) -- Haylen
kanyeknowsbest (2) -- Magister Ludi, Amrun
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (3) -- Juls, kanyeknowsbest, CrimpingNoofball

Not voting: Cobblerfone
18 alive, 10 to lynch.

I'll start looking for a WingDamage replacement.

[Patrick]

C-Worl replaces WingDamage9001. Thanks!

[Patrick]

Votecount

Katsuki (6) -- AlmasterGM, populartajo, evilpacman18, Benmage, Lowell, xRECKONERx
Juls (1) -- C-Worl
SpyreX (1) -- Haylen
kanyeknowsbest (2) -- Magister Ludi, Amrun
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (5) -- Juls, kanyeknowsbest, CrimpingNoofball, Katsuki, The Mask
Amrun (1) -- SpyreX

Not voting: Cobblerfone
18 alive, 10 to lynch.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Katsuki (5) -- AlmasterGM, populartajo, evilpacman18, Benmage, Lowell
Juls (1) -- C-Worl
SpyreX (1) -- Haylen
kanyeknowsbest (1) -- Magister Ludi
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (4) -- Juls, kanyeknowsbest, Katsuki, The Mask
C-Worl (1) -- Amrun
Amrun (3) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, CrimpingNoofball

Not voting: Cobblerfone
18 alive, 10 to lynch.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Katsuki (4) -- AlmasterGM, Benmage, Lowell, Cobblerfone
Juls (1) -- C-Worl
Benmage (1) -- Haylen
kanyeknowsbest (1) -- Magister Ludi
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (4) -- Juls, Katsuki, The Mask, populartajo
populartajo (1) -- Amrun
Amrun (5) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, CrimpingNoofball, kanyeknowsbest, evilpacman18

Not voting: Nobody
18 alive, 10 to lynch.

[Patrick]

Mod: Can hiders be roleblocked?

Yes.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Katsuki (2) -- Benmage, Lowell
Benmage (1) -- Haylen
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (2) -- Katsuki, The Mask
Amrun (6) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, kanyeknowsbest, evilpacman18, populartajo, C-Worl
Haylen (6) -- CrimpingNoofball, Cobblerfone, AlmasterGM, Magister Ludi, Juls, Amrun

Not voting: Nobody
18 alive, 10 to lynch.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Katsuki (1) -- Benmage
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (3) -- Katsuki, The Mask, Haylen
Amrun (6) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, kanyeknowsbest, evilpacman18, populartajo, C-Worl
Haylen (7) -- CrimpingNoofball, Cobblerfone, AlmasterGM, Magister Ludi, Juls, Amrun, Lowell

Not voting: Nobody
18 alive, 10 to lynch.

[Patrick]

Final Votecount

Katsuki (1) -- Benmage
Cobblerfone (3) -- Katsuki, The Mask, Haylen
Amrun (4) -- SpyreX, kanyeknowsbest, populartajo, Sathoris
Haylen (10) -- CrimpingNoofball, Cobblerfone, AlmasterGM, Magister Ludi, Juls, Amrun, Lowell, C-Worl, xRECKONERx, evilpacman18

Not voting: Nobody
18 alive, 10 to lynch.

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Haylen - Vanilla Townie - lynched day 1

That's 21 hours banked for tomorrow. The deadline for night is 48 hours from now.

[Patrick]

Day 2 dawns.... with no deaths. All of you have emerged for breakfast completely unharmed.

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch someone. The deadline hits 117 hours from now.

[Patrick]

Final Votecount

Katsuki (9) -- evilpacman18, CrimpingNoofball, SpyreX, Magister Ludi, xRECKONERx, The Mask, Sathoris, kanyeknowsbest, populartajo

Not voting: Everyone else
17 alive, 9 to lynch.

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Katsuki - Mafia Goon - lynched day 2

Night 2 is here, with the usual 48 hour deadline. You banked 115 hours for tomorrow.

[Patrick]

You wake up for day 3 to find:

The Mask - Jailkeeper - killed night 2

Day 3 begins. With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch. You have 211 hours!

[Patrick]

Final Votecount

AlmasterGM (2) -- SpyreX, evilpacman18
Cobblerfone (1) -- populartajo
Magister Ludi (8) -- Benmage, Cobblerfone, Juls, Amrun, xRECKONERx, C-Worl, CrimpingNoofball, AlmasterGM

Not voting: Lowell, kanyeknowsbest, Sathoris, Magister Ludi
15 alive, 8 to lynch

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Magister Ludi - Mafia Goon - lynched day 3

Night 3 is here, with the usual 48 hour deadline. You banked a trollish 205 hours today.

[Patrick]

Day 4 arrives:

Benmage - Tracker - killed night 3

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch. You have... 301 hours to decide.

[Patrick]

Final Votecount

populartajo (7) -- Amrun, Juls, CrimpingNoofball, SpyreX, AlmasterGM, xRECKONERx, kanyeknowsbest
Amrun (2) -- populartajo, C-Worl

Notc voting: evilpacman18, Lowell, Sathoris, Cobblerfone
13 alive, 7 to lynch.

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populartajo - Vanilla Townie - lynched day 4

And with that, night 4 falls, with the usual 48 hour deadline.

Tomorrow needs less cursing and insults flying around. I seriously don't want to spoil this game by modkilling for something stupid like that, but I will if it carries on

. You banked 298 hours.

[Patrick]

Day 5 dawns with some sad news:

CrimpingNoofball - Rolecop - killed night 4

With 11 players alive, you need 6 votes to lynch someone. You have 394 hours.

[Patrick]

Votecount

evilpacman18 (4) -- SpyreX, xRECKONERx, AlmasterGM, Juls
AlmasterGM (1) -- evilpacman18
Sathoris (1) -- Amrun
kanyeknowsbest (1) -- Lowell
Lowell (1) -- Cobblerfone

Not voting: kanyeknowsbest, C-Worl, Sathoris
11 alive, 6 to lynch.

[Patrick]

Final Votecount

evilpacman18 (6) -- SpyreX, xRECKONERx, AlmasterGM, Juls, Amrun, C-Worl
Juls (1) -- evilpacman18
kanyeknowsbest (1) -- Lowell
Lowell (1) -- Cobblerfone

Not voting: kanyeknowsbest, Sathoris
11 alive, 6 to lynch.

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evilpacman18 - Vanilla Townie - lynched day 5

Night 5 comes with a 48 hour deadline. You banked 359 hours.

[Patrick]

Day 6 arrives with one more person dead.

AlmasterGM - Vanilla Townie - killed night 5

With nine players alive, you lynch at five. You have 455 hours to do it.

[Patrick]

Votecount

C-Worl (3) -- xRECKONERx, Lowell, Amrun

Not voting: C-Worl, SpyreX, kanyeknowsbest, Cobblerfone, Sathoris, Juls
9 alive, lynch at 5

[Patrick]

Final Votecount

C-Worl (5) -- xRECKONERx, Lowell, Amrun, Juls, SpyreX

Not voting: C-Worl, kanyeknowsbest, Cobblerfone, Sathoris
9 alive, lynch at 5

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C-Worl - Mafia Goon - lynched day 6

Night 6 is deadlined at 48 hours, you banked 424 hours.

[Patrick]

Day 7 arrives with....

SpyreX - Tracker - killed night 6

With 7 players alive, it now only takes 4 to lynch. You have 520 hours to lynch someone.

[Patrick]

Final Votecount

Sathoris (4) -- Juls, xRECKONERx, kanyeknowsbest, Amrun

Not voting: Sathoris, Cobblerfone, Lowell
7 alive, 4 to lynch.

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Sathoris - Vanilla Townie - lynched day 7

Night 7 has a 48 hour deadline. You banked 516 hours today.

[Patrick]

And here is day 8!

Cobblerfone - Vanilla Townie - killed night 7

With 5 players alive, it now takes 3 votes to lynch. And remember, you only have 612 hours to decide!

[Patrick]

Votecount

Juls (1) -- xRECKONERx
Lowell (1) -- kanyeknowsbest

Not voting: Lowell, Juls, Amrun
5 alive, 3 to lynch

[Patrick]

Votecount

kanyeknowsbest (1) -- xRECKONERx
Lowell (1) -- kanyeknowsbest

Not voting: Lowell, Juls, Amrun
5 alive, 3 to lynch

[Patrick]

Final Votecount

kanyeknowsbest (3) -- xRECKONERx, Lowell, Amrun
Lowell (1) -- kanyeknowsbest

Not voting: Juls
5 alive, 3 to lynch

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kanyeknowsbest - Vanilla Townie - lynched day 8

And with that, night 8 is here, with the usual 48 hour deadline.

[Patrick]

Day 9, the last day.

Lowell - Vanilla Townie - killed night 8

This is it, guys. 3 players alive, 2 votes needed to lynch the third.

The first person to ask how many hours you have will be modkilled

I'll work out how many hours you have after eating.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Amrun (1) -- xRECKONERx
xRECKONERx (1) -- Amrun

Not voting: Juls
3 alive, 2 to lynch

[Patrick]

Final Votecount

xRECKONERx (2) -- Amrun, Juls
Amrun (1) -- xRECKONERx

Not voting: Nobody
3 alive, 2 to lynch

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xRECKONERx - Mafia Encryptor - lynched day 9

Amrun - Vanilla Townie - Survived
Juls - Vanilla Townie - Survived

Town wins! More details to follow shortly.

[Patrick]

Mafia was all goons plus an encryptor (who is basically just a goon anyway)

This made it hard to take the rest seriously, but ok..

Daytalk is relevant. The fact that your team made poor use of it doesn't turn an encryptor into a goon. I've modded a decent number of games where scum could daytalk, sometimes it's a great asset and sometimes scum act as though they don't have it.

Town had 3 investigative roles, which isn't exactly unheard of in a game this size. None of them are very good at catching scum directly, the rolecop can only bust one of the scum and trackers are more about verifying claims. Yes you were unlucky to have Ludi and C-Worl caught by trackers, but it's very rare that it happens. Tracker isn't an especially strong role.

#4) If the scum made a single bad play, it was the Katsuki hard bus on D1. That, however, should not have lost us the game.

I don't see how this matches up with your (5). Katsuki and C-Worl both looked scummy throughout the whole game, only the Magister Ludi lynch was really out of the blue. And really, complaining about being lynched in the endgame? Juls hammered you over one thing that made Amrun obviously town compared to you, that's pretty fucking common in mafia, doubly so in speed games where people play by gut. Get a grip on yourself. How many scum do I have to read whining that they were lynched for reasons they don't think are good enough?

Anyway, sorry to anyone else who feels cheated by the setup, I had a few doubts when reviewing the setup with Hoopla but I don't think it's especially town sided. I'd lean towards town if I had to though. I don't know whether the fast play is much of a disadvantage at all.

[Patrick]

Here's the dead person's quicktopic anyway: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/tE3WDgyEcX6bG

[Patrick]

I would like to see exactly how daytalk can be used to coordinate so well that it counters the idea of town having that many power roles. We had one of our kill stopped by a jailkeeper, two people taken down by trackers, and one of our scum caught by the rolecop. We don't even have any visiting roles to counter the trackers. And tracker is strong enough to confirm someone as visiting or not visiting, which confirms they have an ability -- just think, if SpyreX had tracked C-Worl and he was just a roleblocker or something, C-Worl wouldn't have been lynched so easily.

Your team had a ton of trouble with the town power in this game, and you're taking that to mean the town is overpowered which doesn't necessarily follow. Again, the rolecop is a weak role, it can only catch one of the scum directly, and saying that you had Katsuki caught by the rolecop makes it sounds like it came out of nowhere. Katsuki looked scummy and had to claim very early on, which led to being caught. That's play, not overpowered town. Trackers are ok, but they're being made to look stronger because in this game two scum were caught in the act of killing by trackers. That isn't the norm.

And what I said is exactly what I thought when I read your comment about an encryptor being a goon. If you're carrying on some kind of reasonable debate about a setup then it's pretty pointless to make sweeping comments like that. Daytalking is pretty erratic in terms of how strong it is, the fact your team used it poorly doesn't make it a tiny bonus.

How many mods do I have to play under who get defensive when someone points out the obvious flaws in their setup?

When you post after the game that someone's setup completely sucks, they are going to respond to it defensively, no surprises there. What you said about Juls and Amrun was in pretty terrible taste too.

Fucking shit, Patrick, if this had been an all-vanilla game, there's no way scum would've lost.

Yes.

[Patrick]

I guess I should post some nightactions.. I stopped compiling half way through for some reason, hopefully they're all right.

Night 1
Mafia send Magister Ludi to kill populartajo
The Mask jailkeeps populartajo
CrimpingNoofball investigates Katsuki (vanilla)
SpyreX tracks The Mask (visiting populartajo)
Benmage tracks xRECKONERx (going nowhere)

Night 2
Mafia send Magister Ludi to kill The Mask
The Mask jailkeeps kanyeknowsbest
CrimpingNoofball investigates AlmasterGM (vanilla)
SpyreX tracks Sathoris (going nowhere)
Benmage tracks Magister Ludi (visiting The Mask)

Night 3
Mafia send C-Worl to kill Benmage
CrimpingNoofball investigates populartajo (vanilla)
SpyreX tracks AlmasterGM (going nowhere)
Benmage tracks Lowell (going nowhere)

Night 4
Mafia send C-Worl to kill CrimpingNoofball
CrimpingNoofball investigates xRECKONERx (encryptor)
SpyreX tracks kanyeknowsbest (going nowhere)

Night 5
Mafia send C-Worl to kill Almaster GM
SpyreX tracks C-Worl (targetting AlmasterGM)

Night 6
Mafia send xRECKONERx to kill SpyreX

Night 7
Mafia send xRECKONERx to kill Cobblerfone

Night 8
Mafia send xRECKONERx to kill Lowell

[Patrick]

But that's the sweet, sweet lure of bus'ing, it's sooooooooo hard to resist.

This is true.