Speed Mafia (Game Over, who won?)

[AlmasterGM]

Vote: evilpacman18

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Too friendly. Also, no random vote.

[AlmasterGM]

Let's take bets on who is going to flake.

My money is on Katsuki.

[AlmasterGM]

Hello all. Glad to be playing another game where I have no idea who most of the players are. I just started summer break so I'm looking forward to being

really active

in this one (first one in a while) just cuz I finally have the time again.

It's been like 15 minutes. Respond to my post.

[AlmasterGM]

Unvote, WingDamage9001

[AlmasterGM]

Almaster, did you vote wing because he is an easy target and you thought Spy was about to start pursuing him?
Do you find him suspicious or are you still randoming?

Well this question isn't loaded at all.

I voted because Spy goes CONTENT and wing goes TEE HEE HEE LOOK AT ME IMMA JOKER.

[AlmasterGM]

Wingdamage lynch is a go.

Katsuki is also scum. However, she will bus her buddies, so she can be lynched second.

[AlmasterGM]

@Crimping, you are a hydra correct?

It's camn and DGB.

[AlmasterGM]

I like how you're joking about being scum when we're all 100% serious.

[AlmasterGM]

vote katsuki

either kat or juls will do. Both are scum.

Why is Juls scum and why is wingdamage not scum?

[AlmasterGM]

AGM stock going up!

GET IT CHEAP WHILE YOU STILL CAN - TOWNREADS ARE EXPENSIVE TO BUY LATE GAME.

[AlmasterGM]

vote katsuki

either kat or juls will do. Both are scum.

Why is Juls scum and why is wingdamage not scum?

Jules loaded question.

Wings rocker fists instead of catering like katsuki did.

Nice thinly veiled buddying attempt. Too bad the loaded question was A-OKAY with me.

[AlmasterGM]

Welcome to how I play as scum.

FTFY.

Like Benmage said, I just watched you play as scum. You played like this. The end.

[AlmasterGM]

ITT caught scum is frusturated.

Fuck it I can't resist the delicious taste of a D1 scumlynch, even if they are going to bus their buddies.

Unvote, Vote: Katsuki

[AlmasterGM]

AGM is scum for the post where he voted Wing after your post.

Why is that post scummy?

[AlmasterGM]

Ok, Katsuki is confirmedscum, we can stop interrogating her now.

Let's go back to evilpacman.

Hello all. Glad to be playing another game where I have no idea who most of the players are. I just started summer break so I'm looking forward to being

really active

in this one (first one in a while) just cuz I finally have the time again.

WELP.

[AlmasterGM]

DETECTIVE ALMASTERGM REPORTING IN. Evilpacman, 10:15pm:

Easiest win I've ever had.

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/eMY7x5eFFNZc

[AlmasterGM]

Sheeping spyrex would be the way to go.

WHOOPS I THOUGHT THAT WAS A SCUMTELL

AGM is scum for the post where he voted Wing after your post.

Why is that post scummy?

Overly desperate to buddy up to spyspy.

[AlmasterGM]

DGB, don't tempt me.

This setup needs dayvigs.

[AlmasterGM]

Pacman's post contains lots of irrelevant fluff and no scumhunting (except for the thing on Juls's posting schedule, which doesn't count because Juls's post was extremely protown, not scummy).

That 8-Ball still saying no, SpyreX? Because if so I think it might be time for a new 8-ball.

[AlmasterGM]

9 different comments in my post. 1 is irrelevant fluff. 4 are scumhunting. 1 is a warning. 1 is townhunting. 2 are defense. Watch yourself for tunneling.

You know whats not in that post?

AGM I BET YOU KNOW

WANNA SHEEP ME MORE AND SAY

Ill take content for $100, please?

[AlmasterGM]

That's a good answer.

But, good sir, there's a far more obvious one.

I believe in you.

What is, "A Vote?"

[AlmasterGM]

I know right?

For everybody's information, this game has bankable deadlines, so stalling is anti-town. If we can get a good lynch off early D1, we could have a solid week-long D2.

Kill the scum. Killlll.

[AlmasterGM]

I find it highly coincidental that you happen to realize the game started just after SpyreX mentions your name. Especially given that you were posting in another game in Theme Park, which means you could have easily seen the thread near the top of the forum page.

[AlmasterGM]

FYI, signing off until around 5pm tomorrow.

[AlmasterGM]

Evilpacman #172 - Terribly scummy post. 1) You aren't allowed to play strategy police unless you are scumhunting, which he isn't 2) It's planning for an endgame scenario on D1, which is fail, and 3) It's wrong, because if both players are actually town (which is MORE likely) they can work together to find scum. Coordination is good, not bad.

Haylen #175 - not impressive. We have 7 pages of content. Derailing the thread with timezones and slapping down an unjustified vote is not acceptable.

Cobblerfone #181 - Why am I scum? #188 - Given your Amrun thing didn't pan out, what is your read on him?

The Cobberfone mixing up Amrun is giving me fishy vibes. Cobbler only joined a month go, so it seems weird that he would screw up remembering who one of his buddies was. Amrun's reaction to this also seems over the top … making a separate post and going NEVER in all caps for it.

Combined with Amrun's previous posting delinquency … I'm getting a tingle of Cobberfone-Amrun scumbuddies.

Cobblerfone #188 - Unvotes in this game are anti-town.

Reck #191 - Interrogating confirmedscum is a waste of time - it's more productive to vote scum and then move on to talking to other people.

THE DARK HORDE: I do not understand why Ludi is in it. However, the rest of it is a go, including the VILLAGES TO BE PLUNDERED LIST.

PURGE THE UNDESIRABLES. PUUUURRRGEEE.

[AlmasterGM]

add populartajo to the HOARDE.

[AlmasterGM]

Fake.

Kill it with fire now. We can bank the extra time.

P-edit: No crumbs? LOL.

[AlmasterGM]

In fact, I can't take it...

Unvote, Vote Cobbler

Let me be clear. I think there is A LOT to be learned from a Kat lynch and I still have yet to see anything protown about her. I very well may switch back.

This post is scummy. You're setting yourself up to get the credit that will spawn from a Katsuki lynch while simultaneously trying to derail it.

All these other people are scummy (

especially

Cobbler), but unless you have conclusive evidence suggesting one is SIGNIFICANTLY more likely to be scum than Katsuki, it isn't worth it to derail the Katsuki wagon. Katsuki is still scum, and there will be a tomorrow to lynch these other peoples.

[AlmasterGM]

My post is stuck... pressed submit, page still loading.

Give it a bit. :/

God, this garbage is SO scummy. It'll take what ... 90 seconds to make it work? Townies don't need to loudly announce that they are, for the first time in the game, going to post *GASP* content.

My scum read on Cobbler is because he is posting "scummy". My scum read on Kat is she is posting "not townie and not scum hunting".

This dichotomy was a lot less clear in your previous post, where you said you "might switch back." It was pretty much a textbook fencesitting post.

[AlmasterGM]

Also, what the hell does this mean:

AlmasterGM -

too much weirdness surrounding him.

Vibe more than evidence at this point.

You are giving these super vague, weird reads. Please explain.

stfu

brb typing up summary of that post.

I'd bet $10 CASH MONEY this post never existed.

[AlmasterGM]

AGM: think again.
I would like to derail the Katsu lynch.
I am not ready for a quicklynch on a claimed PR.

Yeah but you aren't being Sergeant McSneaky about it. Juls is.

[AlmasterGM]

And sorry for the triple post, but HEADS UP: Every single scum in this game is going to fakeclaim PR. The days are too fast for us to reverse wagons on vanilla claims. So if you expect to derail every wagon that runs into a PR claim, this game is going to be a trainwreck. We just need to trust ourselves to PR hunt properly.

[AlmasterGM]

Guys, we still need to lynch Katsuki. Here's a new fresh piece of evidence - her reads are completely inconsistent.

AGM is scum for the post where he voted Wing after your post.

[AGM] might be town then.

Spyspy looks like you are right about AGM.

- AGM #64: KATSUKI IS SCUM BUT I DON'T WANT TO APPEAR TO HOP ONTO THIS WAGON TOO QUICKLY.
…
- AGM #127: Only you tried to hard to buddy Spyspy right from the getgo.
…
AGM is scum for the post where he voted Wing after your post.
…
more stuff about AGM being scumz

Post 51 and 53 are the killer because all the justifications she gives for me being scum happened BEFORE her iso posts 33 and 40. So basically she changed her read for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON based on ABSOLUTELY NO new evidence. COnicidentlaly, her read always coincides with the person she is talking with - e.g., respond to SpyreX and I'm town, giving a catchup post for the people who don't know WTF is going on and I'm scum.This is scum behavior because it proves she is just making up whatever reads she wants to at any given moment in order to suit her particular needs.

That, plus all the other posting. Plus the failure to breadcrumb the PR. LYNCH IT NOW.

Moreover, the kicker is that SHE IS BUDDIES WITH AMRUN. Amrum #298 - MASSIVE fence-sit on what to do with Katsuki because he doesn't want to lynch the buddy.

Other thoughts:

Pacman - 304 and 305 are awful.

Cobblerfone is still scummy, but at least he's not fucking contradicting himself out the wazoo and is giving analysis. Not the lynch for today.

Amrun 379…god I'm cringing. WE AREN'T LYNCHING THE REPLACEMENT SLOT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.

Halyen is a deal-with-later issue, The Mask is town, Lowell is meh.

:::

tl;dr - I will switch onto Amrun if we absolutely need to make that wagon move, but I am not going to prefer him over Katsuki just because LOL WELL WHY NOT. Katsuki is still 100% scum and we need to lynch her today.

[AlmasterGM]

Also, random thought to get out there, not sure if this is true yet - I have a sneaking suspicion if Katsuki and Amrun are both scum, that Cobbler is town and Juls is scum. She has consistently tried to sneak the wagon away from those two onto Cobbler without any REAL reason for doing so, so I'm pretty skeptical of her motives at this point.

[AlmasterGM]

@Sathoris - why am I scum?

Halyen is absolutely positively coasting scum right now. I can smell it. Her posts are not substantive and not related to the topics at hand.

In other news, I hate all of you and cannot believe Katsuki is going to get away with this crap, but the wagon is stalling out and we need to move.

Cobblerfone (4) -- Juls, Katsuki, The Mask, populartajo

No thank you to this wagon.

Unvote, Vote: Amrun

EVERYBODY NOT ON A MAJOR WAGON NEEDS TO GET ON ONE NOW.

[AlmasterGM]

Okay, so discounting yourself and Katsuki, that's only two people (or 66%).

Amrun (5) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, CrimpingNoofball, kanyeknowsbest, evilpacman18, AlmasterGM

Who on that list is town?

[AlmasterGM]

What's important is I have SCUM reads on the Amrun wagon which I don't have on the Cobbler wagon.

I don't see why scum reads are more important than town reads. Three of your top town reads are voting Amrun (and a fourth used to be). You think they are all wrong?

[AlmasterGM]

Because they're buddies.

Unvote, Vote: Haylen

[AlmasterGM]

Actually, who's interested in a tajo wagon?

No.

[AlmasterGM]

SpyreX you aren't allowed to talk, you helped derail Katsuki.lynch.

[AlmasterGM]

SpyreX you aren't allowed to talk, you helped derail Katsuki.lynch.

WHAT DO I MAKE OF THIS POST

I DONT KNOW YOU KEEP MAKING ALL THESE SNIDE INFERENCES THAT IM SCUM.

JUST SAY IT ALREADY IF YOU'RE GOING TO.

[AlmasterGM]

Hey AMG, why raise suspicions on me but not vote for me until others had? Scummy.

Because unlike you I use my vote to accomplish things instead of just parking it somewhere useless. Saying "I stick by my suspicions and my votes" is just another way of saying "I am really stubborn and am not going to help the town just 'because.'"

[AlmasterGM]

Also, it's hilarious that you do basically nothing whole game, but then the minute a wagon on you forms, you're in here F5'ing.

[AlmasterGM]

Yeah DGB, Katsuki and Amrun aren't town.

[AlmasterGM]

How do you know they will be lower if you haven't finished reading and making the list yet?

[AlmasterGM]

I've read through, I've just given up on taking quotes and remarks. Crimping was one of my top town reads but the latest posts coupled with the one I quoted are just way wrong even for a misguided townie.

So if you're done reading and you've stopped taking notes, then where's the scumlist?

GOOD CATCH my friend, good catch.

Is there even a possibility that Sathoris is town, after this?

~DGB

Let's see...

Post 1 - Little to no content. Doesn't comment on the seven pages prior.
Post 2 - Fence-sits on Katsuki, even defending her a little (but still keeping the option open).
Post 3/4 - Super unimpressive catchup posts. Scumlist is a nonsequitor from the analysis (e.g., he comments on lots of stuff, but it's mostly useless information and rarely supports the reads he provdes)
Post 5 - SCUMLIST GATE.

I'm gonna go with no.

[AlmasterGM]

xRECKONERx wants to fight!
xRECKONERx sent out CAPS LAWK!
Go, Pikachu!
CAPS LAWK used Baseless Accusations!
It's not very effective...
Pikachu used scumhunt!
It's super effective!
CAPS LAWK fainted!
DGB defeated xRECKONERx!
DGB got $1,204 for winning...

[AlmasterGM]

Tunneling you? I'm not even voting for you. Hell, you aren't even in my top 3. Stop spewing BS.

Also, at the point where you won't vote for the TOP TWO WAGONS, you are clearly just as bad (if not worse) than Haylen with the voting thing.

[AlmasterGM]

Fuck the claim.

Hammer bank 24 hours.

P-edit: what reck said.

[AlmasterGM]

Yes.

Next person to not post and not hammer Haylen (if they can) is scum.

[AlmasterGM]

She claims cop or doctor with 4 hours till deadline.

What do?

[AlmasterGM]

SpyreX if you had just stayed on Katsuki none of this would have had to happen.

[AlmasterGM]

Shut the fuck up scumbag.

[AlmasterGM]

Yes we have already established pacman and Amrun are scumz.

[AlmasterGM]

Well I was away all day when D2 started and missed it all, buuuuut yeah, Katsuki should've been lynched D1. Glad that went through, obviously. As far as this new "AGM is scum" theory goes, there's not really much I can do about Katsuki being a fucking pro at dragging me down with her. I think I've been really town this game, so I'm not wasting any more time defending against that.

Killing scum wise: There is no bus driver on the possible roles list. Thus, either Benmage or Magister Ludi is lying. No reason to dilly dally any longer.

Vote: Master Ludi

[AlmasterGM]

Also, Juls gets MAJOR scumpoints for fence sitting on Katsuki D1.

[AlmasterGM]

@Juls - Yes you did.

@SpyreX - Already done.

[AlmasterGM]

...Which is why I suggest Rolecops and docs protect/investigate Benmage.

lol no

[AlmasterGM]

to the rolecops, that is.

[AlmasterGM]

Yeah, but what if scum fake a guilty on their fake guilty?

YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT.

At some point, you just need to Occam's Razor through the crap and say, "yeah, Benmage is town."

[AlmasterGM]

mislynching Tajo

wut

[AlmasterGM]

If Benmage doe end up flipping scum at any point then COBBLERFONE KNEW IT WAS A GAMBIT. Because there's noooo way this is a coincidence.

[AlmasterGM]

Okay, I get it. Thanks for the explanation.

Personally, I think we should lynch tajo never.

[AlmasterGM]

Whatever guys. I think Almaster's the way to go tomorrow.

BZZT

Please try again.

[AlmasterGM]

We had a jailkeeper, so no doctor.

Why is tajo scum?

Vote: Sathoris

[AlmasterGM]

@AGM, because tajo was jailkept N1 and The Mask hypo'd it. So tajo could have killed the Mask to be sacrificed and get rid of Jailer.

Vote: tajo

Oh. Whoops.

Unvote, Vote: Tajo

[AlmasterGM]

Oh, I forgot about the JK, my b.

AGM, have you even been in this game? Most of yesterday was spent discussing how tajo is scum, but benmage had a result so we lynched obvscum first..

First, this accusation is highly ironic given that you just forgot we had a jailkeeper in the game, despite the fact that his keep on Tajo is apparently a huge piece of evidence. People forget shit.

Second of all, I resent your comment. I was posting quite a bit on D1. I missed all of D2 because I happened to be travelling on that day, and the day ended in under 24 hours. D3 was a quicklynch. So no, I have not been "in the game" as of late, but it's not because I don't WANT TO BE, it's because that's how things just happened to swing. I think you will notice that, whenever I have the opportunity to post, I am posting.

[AlmasterGM]

And the dead Jailkeeper has been on the front page since D2. What's your point?

Sathoris - See this post: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p3042780. His scumlists don't look better knowing Tajo and Ludi's alignment - Tajo and Ludi are just chilling lamely in the center. He also hasn't improved at all since, so.

[AlmasterGM]

Unvote, Vote: Amrum

I HAVE BEEN WANTING TO DO THIS SINCE DAY 1. His + Katsuki's combined scumflips will make me feel SO VINDICATED.

[AlmasterGM]

Katsuki and Amrun aren't town.

Yessssssssssssssssssssss.

[AlmasterGM]

It's still better to hedge our bets and lynch Amrun first.

[AlmasterGM]

Wait. Wait. Wait.

Unvote.

I might claim my previous actions but I REALLY think its a bad idea.

What does this mean? Have you located the other PR?

[AlmasterGM]

[quote="SpyreX']AGM DONT YOU START ON THIS.[/quote]
You sir need to worry about your own scumdar instead of me. Last I checked Amrun was a TOWN read of yours? WHOOPS.

If he's located a Town PR it would be a bad idea.

I AM AWARE - I AM ASKING HIM DIRECTLY IF HE'S LOCATED THE TOWN PR

[AlmasterGM]

EBWOP:

AGM DONT YOU START ON THIS.

You sir need to worry about your own scumdar instead of me. Last I checked Amrun was a TOWN read of yours? WHOOPS.

If he's located a Town PR it would be a bad idea.

I AM AWARE - I AM ASKING HIM DIRECTLY IF HE'S LOCATED THE TOWN PR

[AlmasterGM]

the fact that amrum is fighting this despite saying she would feel vindicated at the end, should be enough for those last votes.

re: targets, what Spyrex said.

Please answer my question with a yes or no.

YES: I KNOW THE OTHER TOWN PR.

NO: I DO NOT KNOW THE OTHER TOWN PR.

[AlmasterGM]

Ok, then why would you not claim your target? If you are ACTUALLY town rolecop, you are going bye-bye tonight. Why would we not want to have a confirmed townie tomorrow?

[AlmasterGM]

NIGHT.

TWO.

TARGET.

WHEREEEE IS IT.

[AlmasterGM]

Also wait what you were roleblocked Night 1.

ALSO WHY WOULD YOU TARGET KATSUKI

I've heard enough.

Unvote, Vote: Tajo

P-Edit: That took long enough.

TOO LONG.

[AlmasterGM]

Tajo GTFO SpyreX was initially blinded by your jedi mind tricks, but he has now seen the light.

[AlmasterGM]

Because I was pretty sure she was fakeclaiming.

So what, she was dead the next day and everybody knew it. We didn't need a rolecop on her.

[AlmasterGM]

STOP. DAMNING EVIDENCE FOUD.

now onto obvious scum
Vote: Cobblerfone.

AFTER THE VANILLA ON HIM.

WITH TWO GOONS ALREADY FLIPPED.

BULL SHIT.

[AlmasterGM]

Well, one goon.

BUT STILL.

[AlmasterGM]

Also, did you ever crumb the cobbler investigation?

P-Edit: IM BEIN SILLY

[AlmasterGM]

WHY THE FUCK WOULD SCUM SUICIDE LIKE THIS IDK BUT WHO CARES

Because he was getting lynched anyway?

[AlmasterGM]

You people would rather lynch a Town PR than a VT in a Player vs Player situation?

No, we'd rather lynch Scum PR than VT in a Player vs Player situation.

[AlmasterGM]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-gSJW3sHXE

[AlmasterGM]

I'm really trying to get people not to lynch a town PR.

derp derp derp

[AlmasterGM]

LOL THIS GAME

[AlmasterGM]

Hello all. Glad to be playing another game where I have no idea who most of the players are. I just started summer break so I'm looking forward to being

really active

in this one (first one in a while) just cuz I finally have the time again.

Oh what's that .... you've made a GRAND TOTAL of TWENTY FOUR posts throughout this game? Many of which were short and contentless?

Yeah, you can die.

BUT EVEN BEFORE THAT...Sathoris dies. His scumlists are clearly fabricated and he has been incapable of posting a coherent read the entire game.

Unvote, Vote: Sathoris

.

Reck, get your fucking ass in gear. You can't go DERP DERP DERP FUCK YOU TAJO and then call the person who is (99%) confirmed town by the rolecop scum.

[AlmasterGM]

You mean like ... half the game?

I'm fine with waiting a bit since we have banked lots of hawt time, but this game is going to be won by an active team of townies, not by TEAM LURK-TO-VICTORY.

[AlmasterGM]

Also, fun fact: I checked evilpacman's posting history, and he's posting quite a bit in almost every game BUT THIS ONE.

[AlmasterGM]

WE SHALL.

Unvote, Vote: evilpacman

[AlmasterGM]

Oh well look who decided to show up the minute the votes started rolling in?

SCUM, THAT'S WHO.

[AlmasterGM]

Wait wait Juls, I'm about to go play detective in that game. BRB.

[AlmasterGM]

Okay, I typed this really sweet analysis as to why pacman is making up stories, but I realized that would technically be talking about ongoing games. REST ASSURED, HE IS LYING. This game should NOT be that difficult to keep up with, especially given that we have spent a significant amount of time in night phase, which should have given him PLENTY of time to catch up.

[AlmasterGM]

PLEASE STOP SPEWING WHATEVER RANDOM NONSENSE POPS INTO YOUR HEAD. TAKE THIRTY MINUTES AND GO READ THE GAME. THEN, COME BACK WITH SOME THOUGHT OUT, WELL ANALYZED READS THAT ARE SUBSTANTIATED BY ACTUAL EVIDENCE IN THE FORM OF QUOTES, POST NUMBERS, AND/OR LOGIC.

Thank you.

[AlmasterGM]

FUCK THAT, IM NOT FUCKIN GETTING LUMPED IN WITH SATHORIS, LOWELL, AND THE REST OF THESE CLOWNS

[AlmasterGM]

*WHEW*

I was sweating buckets at the end. Great call, Juls (obviously). That said, Reck's play was amazing. If the rest of the scumteam hadn't been WOOOSH scum probably woulda won this.

[AlmasterGM]

did the QT ever get posted?

[AlmasterGM]

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/tE3WDgyEcX6bG (somebody posted it earlier)

that would be the dead person topic

[AlmasterGM]

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/tE3WDgyEcX6bG

I hate you.