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Glass wrote:ThAd wrote:nopoint wrote:Surye is town. Why don't you all get the fuck off his wagon. He does not look like the type to claim a gravedigger.
This is a good point, imo.
A question to both of you: Since you apparently think surye is not the type of scum to claim gravedigger, what is the type to claim gravedigger?
People who gambit.
Glass wrote:ThAd wrote:Well, possibly - but he'd probably attract less suspicion if he just claimed vt. Doesn't make sense for a scum-claim imo.
I call BS. He has a ton of suspicion on him already and claiming VT would not suddenly make his wagon collapse, it would probably get him lynched. So why, why, why would scum claim VT in that position?
That was just an example. Basically I was saying he could have fake-claimed something else and would have looked less suspicious.
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:This whole "I think Katsuki looks bad, but can you tell me why she's scum" routine looks bad to me.
Goodpickup.Don't ask me to provide self meta-
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Re: Page 7 stuff. It was a comment about how I thought the game was going in general. A QFT, if you will.
Surye-GreyICe stuff on page 8 just looks weird. I don't really see gi's case for surye as all that powerful and it looks like surye was just trying to defend himself. Further AGar's vote looks rather opportunistic. The grave digger claim seems a bit absurd, but scum claiming such a role would be ballsy (Wifom? maybe...)
Still, he hasn't done crap apart from defending himself.
ThAdmiral wrote:
Let's see here. *waggles glasses, consults notes*nopointinactingup wrote:TheAdmiral, who is scum?
My picks as of now would be:
Glass
RBT
CrazyPianist
Lol, two null lurkers on your scum list.
GreyIce's vote for Raivann is pretty boss. Looking through his iso shows uselessness while trying to cause a lynch with the vote.
Interested in LLD's future post.
Fate's position on Katsuki bothers me.
I'm going to sleep on this.-
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Random voting is a Raivann trademark.
The problem is this time he's hitting major targets with lousy reasoning, not scummy targets getting too little attention with no reasoning. And he's not doing it nearly often enough.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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crazypianist1116 wrote:Surye-GreyICe stuff on page 8 just looks weird. I don't really see gi's case for surye as all that powerful and it looks like surye was just trying to defend himself. Further AGar's vote looks rather opportunistic. The grave digger claim seems a bit absurd, but scum claiming such a role would be ballsy (Wifom? maybe...)
Still, he hasn't done crap apart from defending himself.
I still like my GI analysis, though the timing made it look OMGUS, unfortunately. I did get into defensive mode, but I was trying to derail my wagon as I approached L-1, and ended up being forced to claim. It happens.
I also want to keep my Katsuki vote, the way she wagoned and pushed so hard over what I still see as a weak case was pretty scummy, and when the wagon turned on her, and her "alignment confirmed mason" turned on her, the response was way scummy to me. Looking like she doesn't really care, ";_;" post, the lack of trying to defend herself or asking what the scumtell was. This was all really bad to me.-
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GreyICE wrote:I'm just going to pretend that pages 11 and 12 never happened.
So I'm voting Raivann, 'sup?
Vote ThAd, better wagon.
Surye, you too. Be a good fellow and sheep me please.
Kats is being attacked by Fate/LLD for thinking of two different gravedigger role variations. As far as I've gathered, that's the "scumslip." This is tantamount to :moonbeams: as a tell. Gravedigger isn't some commonly used role, and I've never actually seen the mechanic used in a game I've been in. I've only read on a few games where I've seen it as far as I can recall.
Fate's attack here reads honest, LLD is still questionable. GreyICE wandering off to attack Raivann is kinda strange for him - better options here.
ThAd, meanwhile has been acting strangely. Opening with lots of jokes and next to no content, he moves to buddying up to Surye. When Surye claims, he automatically writes it off as town, because Surye "wouldn't claim gravedigger [as scum]." (I finally figured out what the fuck those brackets mean in articles /facepalm.) He is then asked "Who would claim gravedigger as scum?" to which he responds "Gambitting people."
Really? Uhhhhh... no.
Scum claiming gravedigger is a high-risk, low-reward gambit. Too much can go wrong with a grave-digger gambit. His claim should be fairly provable in the future. A scum-gravedigger is uh... brutally OP would be the best wording I have? "Here scumbag, have all these town powers I put in to combat your team." Doc? Great pickup. Watcher? Excellent pickup. Vig? If the mod allows it, wicked pickup. Roleblock/Jailkeep? Nice pickup.
Vote Thad. Best choice. Hands down.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Scum doc I've seen before in mini normals. TOWN watcher is brutally OP, scum watcher not so much (scum watcher vs town doctor is a tad full retard, but not imba).
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Vote Count 1.9 - As of post 308
Fate (0) -
bvoigt (0) -
Katsuki (3) - Fate, Lady Lambdadelta, Surye
Agar (0) -
Lady Lambdadelta (0) -
crazypianist1116 (1) - Riceballtail
Surye (2) - Katsuki, Raivann
ThAdmiral (2) - bvoigt, AGar
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Glass (1) - ThAdmiral
Nopointinactingup (2) - Glass, Crazypianist1116
GreyIce (1) - Nopointinactingup
Raivann (1) - GreyICE
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GreyICE wrote:Scum doc I've seen before in mini normals. TOWN watcher is brutally OP, scum watcher not so much (scum watcher vs town doctor is a tad full retard, but not imba).
I'm voting Raivann because he's scum.
The roles themselves, yes. They are normal to be had by scum.
I'm saying that a scum gravedigger with access to all the roles that MoI puts into the game to counter the scum is a bit... counter-intuitive.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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@AGar: As I have stated, I have played in 2 other games on site with gravedigger roles before... Hence I believed it to be the gravedigger role as stated in the wiki.Fluffy fluffy~~~ |"READING KATSUKI IS LIKE SOME SORT OF POSTMODERN ARTFORM"- GreyICE
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Katsuki wrote:Katsuki wrote:GreyICE wrote:Katsuki wrote:Gravedigger?!
Seriously, a gravedigger, IN A MINI?!
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Unvote
Not ready for a hammer.
Katsuki, why is Gravedigger a bad role for a mini?
I've never seen a Gravedigger in a mini before...
SCRATCH THIS POST GI, HIS CLAIMED GRAVEDIGGER ISN'T THE SAME GRAVEDIGGER I'M THINKING OF.
This is where the scum slip comes.
Kats has just contradicted herself in bam to back posts? First saying she'd never seen a Gravedigger, then stating that she's seen it twice before.
Had those two posts been all she said, it would have been fine.
But literally seconds after making the second post, Kats follows with this Gem, trying to cover her apparent mistake.
She then continues to try an cover it up by flooding the thread with GI about some minor point.
Then Fate jumps on her, and she offers no defense.
Also, her attacking of Surye now looks bad, because she attacked me for voting him early on, and then jumped on the wagon when Fate came in the game, trying to play to my ego saying:
"Looks like you were right about Surye LLD"
This isn't the full case on Kats. I'll provide that later. This is the highlight reel of the scum slip.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Katsuki wrote:Katsuki wrote:GreyICE wrote:Katsuki wrote:Gravedigger?!
Seriously, a gravedigger, IN A MINI?!
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Unvote
Not ready for a hammer.
Katsuki, why is Gravedigger a bad role for a mini?
I've never seen a Gravediggerin a minibefore...
SCRATCH THIS POST GI, HIS CLAIMED GRAVEDIGGER ISN'T THE SAME GRAVEDIGGER I'M THINKING OF.
This is where the scum slip comes.
Kats has just contradicted herself in bam to back posts? First saying she'd never seen a Gravedigger, then stating that she's seen it twice before.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL WHAT
OMG THIS IS TOO GOOD
TELL ME WHERE THIS SO CALLED CONTRADICTION IS, THEN WE TALK.
BUT THIS FABRICATION, IS SYNONOMOUS WITH LLD SCUM
BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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GreyICE wrote:bvoigt wrote:Is he a VI?
No dude. You just asked the question "what town reason could there be for RBT to ask whether Katsuki was an alignment confirmed mason before voting for Katsuki."
Sure, the question was pretty bad, but that question was horrible.
He's never really expressed suspicion of Katsuki, though.
@Surye: What reason (flavor-wise) do you have for the gravedigger role?
I still don't buy the Katsuki slip.-
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Katsuki wrote:Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Katsuki wrote:Katsuki wrote:GreyICE wrote:
Unvote
Not ready for a hammer.
Katsuki, why is Gravedigger a bad role for a mini?
I've never seen a Gravediggerin a minibefore...
SCRATCH THIS POST GI, HIS CLAIMED GRAVEDIGGER ISN'T THE SAME GRAVEDIGGER I'M THINKING OF.
This is where the scum slip comes.
Kats has just contradicted herself in bam to back posts? First saying she'd never seen a Gravedigger, then stating that she's seen it twice before.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL WHAT
OMG THIS IS TOO GOOD
TELL ME WHERE THIS SO CALLED CONTRADICTION IS, THEN WE TALK.
BUT THIS FABRICATION, IS SYNONOMOUS WITH LLD SCUM
BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
UNVOTE, VOTE: LLD
Scum claim here folks. Wagon away with justice on your minds and courage in your hearts.
Notice how Katsuki ignores the line where I actually explain the slip.
Notice how she has gone from giving up to "HAHA CAUGHT YOU SCUM" mode, in 3.5.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Kats has gone full-scumtard. Bad bad decision.
GreyICE wrote:Vote:LLD
FUCK NO
LOL.
@Glass:
No that wasn't the scumslip. I actually didn't see any scumslip at all from Katsuki, was just interested in going with the wagon.
WhatIsaw was Katsuki being extremely scummy.
Here let me detail whyFate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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Katsuki's reaction to Survye's claim was a string of extremely forced sounding posts that are pretty scummy.
Here, I'll bold my paraphrasing of how this reads to me:
Katsuki wrote:
Seriously, a gravedigger, IN A MINI?!
I've never seen a Gravedigger in a mini before...
"Seriously? ROLE META MINI LOL IMPLAUSIBLE MISLYNCH PLEASE."
Katsuki wrote:Surye wrote:LLD: I can take the ability of any dead person as a 1shot.
Ok nvm this is a scum ability.
I have seen this ability twice before. Once was my scumbuddy. The other time was also scum.
"Ok this is a sucm ability due to OTHER GAMES. Let me use my meta of my scumbuddies and some other scum claiming gravedigger to support this mislynch, because there's no actual evidence IN THIS GAME to push this mislynch anymore."
Katsuki wrote:Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Did Katsuki just scum slip>?
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"? I did? Where... oh shit."
Katsuki wrote:The flexibility of it.
Universal Backups usually help aid against the swinginess of town PR being eliminated right at the start.
Selecting feels off for me. For example, in the game I played where my partner had this ability, he could even copy the "Innocent Child" role if he wanted to.
Copying the cop role would also be a nifty way of clearing yourself as scum.
The only factor here is that those are large theme games. I don't think the general principal of it changes though. Flexibility like this favors scum in my experience.
"Scumbuddy Grey, let me talk to you about roles and mafia theory... its something we can talk about right? I'm awkward at interacting with my scumbuddies.... Anyway blah blah mafia theory aka Gravedigger is cummy role aka lets mislynch."
Stay tuned for Part 2: Katsuki buddying... AGAIN?Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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